Rand Paul: I think Republicans may have over-emphasized voter fraud

posted at 3:21 pm on April 23, 2014 by Allahpundit

Via WaPo and RCP, another nugget mined from yesterday’s chat with Axelrod in Chicago. As with abortion, Paul’s “different kind of Republican” brand requires a compromise here. He knows that most voters, including those in his own party, support voter-ID laws; he also knows that those laws are easily demagogued as racist by lefties, which means that toeing the GOP line too closely could jeopardize Paul’s effort to connect with black voters. What’s a different kind of Republican to do? He insists that ID is a good idea — “I don’t think dead people should vote” — but concedes to Axelrod that the GOP has over-emphasized it in light of some data suggesting that actual fraud is negligible. (There are, however, many millions of invalid voter registrations on the books.) What did people expect him to say? He’s already come out in favor of restoring voting rights to nonviolent felons. He also says here that, unlike many GOPers, he supports early voting. All of this will be useful to him if/when Democrats start in on him for questioning the 1964 Civil Rights Act. He’s building a defense to racism charges and distinguishing himself from his party, which is unpopular with the constituencies he’s trying to appeal to, at the same time.

Anyway. While we’re on the subject of Paul oppo research, that Mother Jones piece that I mentioned earlier is blowing up among lefties, who seem convinced that Paul is now DOA in the primaries because he — gasp — noted that Jimmy Carter kept spending lower than Reagan. Is that right? Which of his opponents, please tell me, is going to attack him for complaining that federal spending has been too high, even under conservative leadership? It’s okay to criticize even Reagan so long as you’re attacking from the right; if you don’t believe me, stop and think how many Republicans you’ve heard say in the past year alone that we can’t afford a repeat of the 1986 amnesty that Reagan signed into law. If Paul’s comments about Carter and Reagan end up giving him trouble, it won’t be because he dared to question the Gipper. It’ll be because, allegedly, they’re further evidence of Paul’s foreign-policy weakness: The reason Reagan spent more, Paul’s critics will say, is because he was hellbent on bringing down the Soviet Union in a way that Carter never was. Deficit spending is lamentable but defensible if the cause it serves is noble enough. Would President Paul have refused to spend the necessary dollars even if it meant a reprieve for the failing Soviet Union? In that case, perhaps he’s too dovish after all. That’ll be how the Carter/Reagan comments are spun, if anyone even thinks to attack him on it.


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The more Rand Paul talks, the less I like the guy.

Pincher Martin on April 23, 2014 at 3:21 PM

Duh

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 3:24 PM

This plus his wishy-washy stand on abortion cancels him out for me.

chai on April 23, 2014 at 3:24 PM

He’ll make a fine Surgeon General.

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 3:24 PM

Dr./Sen. Paul, D-lite ain’t gon’ cut it. DC is already full of

DIABLOs – Ds in all but label only

h/t LegendHasIt

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Rand Paul: I think Republicans may have over-emphasized voter fraud

Yep, Rand is definitely the son of moRon Paul! – it runs in the family

TeaPartyNation on April 23, 2014 at 3:25 PM

I hope he campaigns for Jeb 2016.

Murphy9 on April 23, 2014 at 3:26 PM

The funny thing here is how Rand thinks he’s going to connect with most blacks.

Bitter Clinger on April 23, 2014 at 3:26 PM

This interview was ANOTHER complete disaster for Rand. It has become clear that Rand is not serious about running for president.

Pork-Chop on April 23, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Worst part of this is that he conceded the point directly to the enemy.

Mark1971 on April 23, 2014 at 3:26 PM

So HOW MUCH voter fraud is acceptable Rand paul ?

burrata on April 23, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Holy shit Rand. Put those strawmen away. Seriously.

nobar on April 23, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Rand Paul: I think Republicans may have over-emphasized voter fraud

ACORN thanks you for your support.

Stoic Patriot on April 23, 2014 at 3:27 PM

He’ll make a fine Surgeon General.

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 3:24 PM

Excellent suggestion…and solution.

thatsafactjack on April 23, 2014 at 3:27 PM

O.K., this guy’s officially a Flake….

ToddPA on April 23, 2014 at 3:28 PM

Bitter Clinger writes:

The funny thing here is how Rand thinks he’s going to connect with most blacks.

Indeed.

Pincher Martin on April 23, 2014 at 3:28 PM

Second strike. The first one was with illegal immigration, but that one was, at least, understandable. This error is completely unforced. Not only Rand Paul pisses his base off while getting no benefit of the doubt from the other side, he also contradicts well-known facts.

Exit question: Are we looking at Paul vs Cruz primary, with the former being the establishment guy?! Chris the Whale hardest hit.

Rix on April 23, 2014 at 3:30 PM

The funny thing here is how Rand thinks he’s going to connect with most blacks.

Bitter Clinger on April 23, 2014 at 3:26 PM

And he’ll have plenty of operatives telling him that this will win him the WH.

nobar on April 23, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Voter fraud, wherever and whenever it’s found, cannot be OVER-emphasized.

dentarthurdent on April 23, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Rubio keeps looking better!

terryannonline on April 23, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Damn, Rand. Voter fraud is a major felony.

TX-96 on April 23, 2014 at 3:31 PM

distinguishing himself from his party, which is unpopular with the constituencies he’s trying to appeal to, at the same time.

So, when will potential candidates learn that trying to “appeal to” so-called independents or moderates may just turn off their own base?

cs89 on April 23, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Good God…how is still able to talk with both feet shin deep in his mouth?!?

nextgen_repub on April 23, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Rand, you’re sounding more and more a RHINO.

mixplix on April 23, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Rubio keeps looking better!

terryannonline on April 23, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Hammered this hour of the day young “lady?”

Murphy9 on April 23, 2014 at 3:34 PM

A first term senator shouldn’t head the ticket.

rhombus on April 23, 2014 at 3:34 PM

What “actual data”?

The whole point, Randy, of voter fraud is to get away with it again and again.

corona79 on April 23, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Murphy9 on April 23, 2014 at 3:34 PM

lol!;)

thatsafactjack on April 23, 2014 at 3:35 PM

The more Rand Paul talks, the less I like the guy.

Pincher Martin on April 23, 2014 at 3:21 PM

Ditto.

Thanks, Rand. Here in SW Ohio, the folks–those who attended a local NAACP gathering at which a Democratic poll worker who had been CONVICTED of voting eight times in this past election was applauded–thank you.

Paul is no relegated to the mute list along with Obama, all other Dems, Cantor, McCarthy, Rubio, and some others.

BuckeyeSam on April 23, 2014 at 3:35 PM

I really like the guy, but I don’t understand his answers sometimes.

“Without IDs being presentated, David, it’s impossible to know how much fraud actually exists since we have no idea who is actually showing up and voting. Wouldn’t we rather err on the side of being too cautious then too cavalier when it comes to something as important and fundamental as the right to vote? If people lose faith that their vote counts and believe the system is rigged and fraught with fraud, it hurts the fundamental democratic process we all believe in” or something along those lines would have been a much better answer.

Timin203 on April 23, 2014 at 3:35 PM

Is he on a “pontification” tour?

rlwo2008 on April 23, 2014 at 3:36 PM

The more Rand Paul talks, the less I like the guy.

Pincher Martin on April 23, 2014 at 3:21 PM

Ditto

ConservativePartyNow on April 23, 2014 at 3:37 PM

This guy’s a useful idiot for the left.

RI_Red on April 23, 2014 at 3:38 PM

I’d like an estimate of how much voter fraud constitutes an unacceptable level to the political class.

Does someone have to prove that a member of the political class lost an election as a direct result of voter fraud for that fraud to qualify as significant?

Does someone have to prove that a member of the political class won an election specifically as a direct result of voter fraud in order for that voter fraud to qualify as significant?

How tainted do our elections, and thereby the entire electoral process, have to become before the political class deems that voter fraud to be a significant issue?

thatsafactjack on April 23, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Guess we can go with one of the other dudes from TX. ;)

Murphy9 on April 23, 2014 at 3:41 PM

The worst part about it: We all know that he can do better. It’s like watching your favorite tv show getting mutilated. You want to stop torturing yourself, but you also want to believe that it will change for the better.

nobar on April 23, 2014 at 3:42 PM

He’s not making the tent bigger. He’s just moving the tent stakes and location. Going to leave a lot of people who were in the tent standing outside. Somehow, that doesn’t seem smart.

butch on April 23, 2014 at 3:42 PM

Interesting that I have a totally different take -

Republicans cannot stay home and not vote, then claim the reason
they lost is “voter fraud”.

Yes, steps need to be taken to eliminate voter fraud. However,
it is not the reason Romney lost. I think what Rand Paul was trying
to convey is that repubs may or may not be putting too much
emphasis on it. It makes the repubs look like sore losers.

Rand Paul had a lot of good things to say in this interview; in
particular about climate change and the department of education.
I also liked what he said about abortion; that nothing would be
done until the public alters its thinking.

Every time I hear Rand Paul speak (and I don’t always agree with
him 100% – and don’t expect to) I like him more.

Amjean on April 23, 2014 at 3:42 PM

tipping point for me, I’m done with him.

dmacleo on April 23, 2014 at 3:42 PM

Reagan actually cut spending everywhere BUT defense. The defense build up was used to bankrupt the Soviet Union… part of making “Peace through Strength” actually work.

dforston on April 23, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Excellent suggestion…and solution.

thatsafactjack on April 23, 2014 at 3:27 PM

Plus, compared to obama’s “doctors for obama” anti-gun fraud, and totally aside from it, w/b highly qualified, for a change. The entire obama clan is full of puerile thugs.

Rubio keeps looking better!

terryannonline on April 23, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 3:45 PM

I really don’t care much anymore when I find I disagree with Republicans. As long as it’s not on too much. There are always going to be disagreements and no matter what happens, the media is going to take something and blow it out of proportion to try and separate the conservative politicians from the conservative base.

However, when you can’t fight tooth and nail in a verbal sparing match with our ideaological opponents, go away. I’m tired of the Time Pawlenty’s who, when confronted with Sarah Palin’s targets on Democrat districts, runs away scared and says, “Well, that’s not how I would have done things.”

Enough!

It’s time to stand up for conservative principles and be strong in the face of opposition. Don’t criticize those Republicans and Conservatives who want to stop election fraud. Double down and support them.

Throw us under the bus and we will throw you under the bus.

Baggi on April 23, 2014 at 3:45 PM

Rubio keeps looking better!

terryannonline on April 23, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Ummmm…….NO!!

Bitter Clinger on April 23, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Reagan actually cut spending everywhere BUT defense. The defense build up was used to bankrupt the Soviet Union… part of making “Peace through Strength” actually work.

dforston on April 23, 2014 at 3:43 PM

And it was that defeat of the USSR that allowed significant cuts in defense in the 1990′s, so there was a return on the investment.

Mark1971 on April 23, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Rand Paul: I think Republicans may have over-emphasized voter fraud

What do you suppose he is basing that claim on? He must have some data. He should share it.

===========================================
Rand Paul: I think Republicans may have over-emphasized voter fraud.
Obama : I think at some point you’ve made enough money.
===========================================

Those statements are based on what, exactly?

Mimzey on April 23, 2014 at 3:46 PM

You can’t spell Rand Paul without P-A-N-D-R.

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 3:47 PM

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 3:45 PM

Indeed, and an elegant solution to the problem of how best to utilize that talent.

thatsafactjack on April 23, 2014 at 3:48 PM

Agreeing on early voting is agreeing on voting fraud… All early voting shall be abolished… If the lazy parasites cannot come to the polls on elections day then tough luck…

mnjg on April 23, 2014 at 3:48 PM

Sometimes blaming voter fraud is an easy way of avoiding the reality that your views just aren’t as popular as you wish they were. Of course, when it does happen, it’s a serious thing that deserves a lot of attention.

DisneyFan on April 23, 2014 at 3:49 PM

He’ll make a fine Surgeon General.

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 3:24 PM

….in the WahaBillary regime !

burrata on April 23, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Huh, turns out rand isn’t an idiot after all. He can state the obvious truth just like a normal person. Surprising.

Reagan spent more than carter. America wants to compromise in abortion. Republicans exaggerate voter fraud.

All simple, obvious truths that anyone can see.

Surprising to hear a republican candidate not insisting that the sun rises in the west.

everdiso on April 23, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Hey, you know what would really start my evening off nicely? Banning Rand Paul in effigy. Have someone make a fake Rand Paul account, then have him comment once, then ban the account!

I know you guys kicked the idea around for Harry Reid once, but we call agree right now that Rand Paul (of all people) needs to be symbolically banned from this place.

BigGator5 on April 23, 2014 at 3:49 PM

It’s all on topic.

obama loves, loves, loves his family…just like there’s no voters’ fraud.

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 3:50 PM

Rand Paul can’t be trusted.

bluegill on April 23, 2014 at 3:51 PM

Hey, you know what would really start my evening off nicely? Banning Rand Paul in effigy. Have someone make a fake Rand Paul account, then have him comment once, then ban the account!

I know you guys kicked the idea around for Harry Reid once, but we call agree right now that Rand Paul (of all people) needs to be symbolically banned from this place.

BigGator5 on April 23, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Seconded. Throw in Ted Cruz too for the package deal.

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 3:51 PM

Feet made of clay.

ThePrez on April 23, 2014 at 3:51 PM

When does the “I think conservatives are over-emphasizing gun rights” comment appear from Rand.

Good job, dude.

Bishop on April 23, 2014 at 3:51 PM

I know you guys kicked the idea around for Harry Reid once, but we call agree right now that Rand Paul (of all people) needs to be symbolically banned from this place.

BigGator5 on April 23, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Rand is going to receive the Rubio treatment. Only 4 posters will defend him.

nobar on April 23, 2014 at 3:53 PM

“I think federalism is a conservative pipe-dream” — Rand Paul

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Rats, looks like he’s got a bit more of the ole man in him than I originally thought. Too bad.

I was hoping for a Rahm Emanuel vs. Rand Paul bantamweight fight. I’ll have to get my giggles someplace else.

Fallon on April 23, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Rubio keeps looking better!

terryannonline on April 23, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Yes he does, in my rear view mirror as I look ahead.

Bishop on April 23, 2014 at 3:54 PM

When does the “I think conservatives are over-emphasizing gun rights” comment appear from Rand.

Good job, dude.

Bishop on April 23, 2014 at 3:51 PM

That’ll be next month. Right about the time when Rand doesn’t think he’s getting enough coverage again.

Bitter Clinger on April 23, 2014 at 3:54 PM

I’m starting to get sick of hearing this man talk.

John the Libertarian on April 23, 2014 at 3:55 PM

The guy talks like a Democrat…

idesign on April 23, 2014 at 3:55 PM

Rand Paul is turning into Charlie Crist right before our eyes. It seems he’ll say anything to get elected.

tominsd on April 23, 2014 at 3:55 PM

I know you guys kicked the idea around for Harry Reid once, but we call agree right now that Rand Paul (of all people) needs to be symbolically banned from this place.

BigGator5 on April 23, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Seconded. Throw in Ted Cruz too for the package deal.

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 3:51 PM

Slow death

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 3:55 PM

Good picture

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 3:57 PM

Rand Paul, who has shown his contempt for opponents of amnesty ( http://youtu.be/pxQjlS7JwMo ) and wants to surrender on abortion, now suggests that we shouldn’t “overemphasize” voter ID laws, because he is afraid of how talking about voter fraud will look?

This guy is TOTALLY OFF MY LIST of potential candidates.

bluegill on April 23, 2014 at 3:57 PM

Slow death

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 3:55 PM

Says the sperglord who condemns people to Hades for thinking the wrong way.

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Rand Paul is turning into Charlie Crist right before our eyes. It seems he’ll say anything to get elected.

tominsd on April 23, 2014 at 3:55 PM

Paul/Crist — 2016

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Says the sperglord who condemns people to Hades for (not) thinking the wrong way.

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Be factual.

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 3:59 PM

Anyway. While we’re on the subject of Paul oppo research, that Mother Jones piece that I mentioned earlier is blowing up among lefties, who seem convinced that Paul is now DOA in the primaries because he — gasp — noted that Jimmy Carter kept spending lower than Reagan.

Exactly the kind of meaningless sound bite the Paulians love. Even the most casual critic would note that Carter spending so very little on defense was precisely the reason that Reagan had to spend so much. To then turn around and use that to suggest that Carter was fiscally more responsible than Reagan is insanity.

If he keeps it up, he can kiss that nomination goodbye.

And if voter fraud isn’t reined in, there won’t be any Republicans elected to the presidency ever again. Would it be too much to expect a purported Republican to point out that in a government where legislators and executives at every level are democratically elected, protecting the integrity of those elections really can’t be over-emphasized?

There Goes the Neighborhood on April 23, 2014 at 3:59 PM

Sometimes blaming voter fraud is an easy way of avoiding the reality that your views just aren’t as popular as you wish they were. Of course, when it does happen, it’s a serious thing that deserves a lot of attention.

DisneyFan on April 23, 2014 at 3:49 PM

The IRS doesn’t think so. The Texas conservative group called True The Vote was established to help give proper voting credentials the attention you claim it should be given. The IRS sat on their application for tax free status and sent about 4 other alaphabet agencies after them. Hell, even Elija Cummings got in on the action.

butch on April 23, 2014 at 4:00 PM

Sorry

Says the sperglord who condemns people to Hades for (not) thinking the wrong way.

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Fixed it for you. Start thinking.

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 4:00 PM

The guy talks like a Democrat…

idesign on April 23, 2014 at 3:55 PM

He’s a member of Congress – all they (all of them) do is talk.

The GOP must forget Congress, and look for our nominee out here.

jake-the-goose on April 23, 2014 at 4:00 PM

I really liked Rand a few months ago. Then he went on a crusade to water down all of his core beliefs except the NSA. Finally you get this interview where his pro-life views are subject to polls and this response on voter fraud. I’m done.

Let’s hope the GOP governors or Cruz can come on strong in the primaries. Rand has lost credibility with me.

chuckfinlay on April 23, 2014 at 4:00 PM

When does the “I think conservatives are over-emphasizing gun rights” comment appear from Rand.

Good job, dude.

Bishop on April 23, 2014 at 3:51 PM

Right after he opines ” I think Republicans have over-emphasized religious freedom” ,
which might be next week when he shows up @ Jeremiah Wright’s
” church”

burrata on April 23, 2014 at 4:01 PM

Scott Walker 2016. Not only is he the best choice. At the rate we’re going, he’ll probably be the only choice.

Doughboy on April 23, 2014 at 4:02 PM

Rand Paul: I think Republicans may have over-emphasized voter fraud

Really, Rand? Who, exactly, has “over-emphasized” it? I don’t hear anybody in the GOP even talking about it. In fact, didn’t a legal injunction prevent Republicans from talking about it? And is cleaning voting rolls of dead voters and illegal immigrants and felons at the state level “over-emphasis”? How about James O’Keefe’s tapes and Catherine Englebrecht’s heroic work to reveal and remedy voter fraud?

I abhor this tendency among the GOP to carry water for Leftist narratives. What it represents is an over-weening need to look mature while appealing to the least mature elements of the elitist classes and their ignorant beneficiaries. It’s pandering. It’s reverse conspiracy-mongering.

rrpjr on April 23, 2014 at 4:02 PM

Rand Paul: work visas for illegal immigrants
http://nr.taboola.com/newsroom…¬ify.type=redirect-url

idesign on April 23, 2014 at 4:03 PM

I am not a Paul supporter though after Cruz and Jindal he seems to me as the best option, I would say that people in this forum don’t understand strategy and that until the debates everything he says on interviews is meaningless. This is just building up ammo against possible arguments against his candidacy.

I wait and see and as long he keep voting the right way in the senate I dont care what he says on interviews.

Just like Obama in reverse he says a lot of things that would seem to make sense but in the end he will do what he wants. Same with Paul.

Knives78 on April 23, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Says the sperglord who condemns people to Hades

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Says the parrot who mimics same.

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 4:04 PM

It’s okay to criticize even Reagan so long as you’re attacking from the right

It’s as dumb an argument in this thread as it was in the other one. Why is it necessary to criticize Reagan at all? How about criticizing democrats instead for change.

xblade on April 23, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Rand Paul goes to a great deal of trouble to employ careful messaging and strategically placed word choices and phrases on any given issue. He’s always maneuvering, always positioning, every possible response to any query ever-so-carefully rehearsed and focus-tested.

I’d just be curious to know what Rand Paul really thinks and wonder just how closely the son’s true beliefs align with his insane, antisemitic, Truther father.

Wasn’t it Rand Paul who initially proclaimed Snowden, that traitorous rat, a ‘hero’? Wasn’t it Rand Paul who initially claimed that maybe we shouldn’t ‘tweak’ Russia’s Putin even while Putin was preparing to swallow the Crimea?

I wrote the word ‘initially’ in both instances because Rand Paul later walked back those remarks, no doubt after some pretty intense consultation with his media people–you know, the folks responsible for hiding what Rand Paul truly believes from the public. It’s like a reprise of Obama in 2008.

No, thanks.

troyriser_gopftw on April 23, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Sorry bad link, here it is.

Rand Paul: work visas for illegal immigrants

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/22/Rand-Paul-Work-Visas-for-All-Illegal-Immigrants

idesign on April 23, 2014 at 4:06 PM

is it alright with Rand Paul if instances are noted as they occur?

I think it’s a mistake for Rand Paul to keep talking like this, but that’s me.

bour3 on April 23, 2014 at 4:06 PM

6PM HotAir.

Breaking News. “Rand Paul”

“Read my lips, I always wanted to vote for Obamacare, because it’s really not THAT bad.”

MontanaMmmm on April 23, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Sorry bad link, here it is.

Rand Paul: work visas for illegal immigrants!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/22/Rand-Paul-Work-Visas-for-All-Illegal-Immigrants

idesign on April 23, 2014 at 4:07 PM

The more Rand Paul talks, the less I like the guy.

Pincher Martin on April 23, 2014 at 3:21 PM

I’ve never much cared for him…so I’ll chalk it up to getting it right. It doesn’t balance out my whole Charie Crist debacle…but I consider it a “brownie point” anyway :P

JetBoy on April 23, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Fixed it for you. Start thinking.

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 4:00 PM

You diminish slavery, fool.

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Funny, I remember chastising fellow Paulestinians over crazy theories about how voter fraud was preventing Ron Paul from winning primaries in 2008. Told them they were absolutely loony.

Am I now to believe there was some credence behind what they were saying?

Seriously, as someone who has worked in the field, I can tell you voter fraud probably happens, in some precincts enough to tip elections, and usually on the Democratic side. But it doesn’t happen that often, and where it is most effective is in one party districts, in primary elections and caucuses. Anyone blaming their party’s overall failures on voter fraud is engaging in Loserspeak…

JohnGalt23 on April 23, 2014 at 4:10 PM

You diminish slavery, fool.

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 4:09 PM

NO, I always condemn true slavery, contrary to any of you and yours.

You make fools into Einsteins.

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 4:12 PM

…lately….the more he talks…the less I like him.

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2014 at 4:12 PM

It’s as dumb an argument in this thread as it was in the other one. Why is it necessary to criticize Reagan at all? How about criticizing democrats instead for change.

xblade on April 23, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Democrats might get mad.

And we can’t have that.

//

Bitter Clinger on April 23, 2014 at 4:12 PM

Let’s hope the GOP governors or Cruz can come on strong in the primaries. Rand has lost credibility with me.

chuckfinlay on April 23, 2014 at 4:00 PM

I agree.

Paul is smart. What he’s doing NOW is intended to neutralize the premptive attacks that killed Romney and McCain. He’s also actually deconstructing the idea of the GOP brand while conforming sufficiently (or hoping to) to the tradition of one.

rrpjr on April 23, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Emancipation

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Rand Paul: I think Republicans may have over-emphasized voter fraud

Um…ya think?
Ha.

Seem’s Allah’s “different kind of Republican” is becoming shorthand for making logical and fact based remarks.

verbaluce on April 23, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014

……………^ ^ ^…we have another ass_ole!

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Heh! NC definitely won’t like this approach.

lineholder on April 23, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Rand Paul goes to a great deal of trouble to employ careful messaging and strategically placed word choices and phrases on any given issue. He’s always maneuvering, always positioning, every possible response to any query ever-so-carefully rehearsed and focus-tested.

troyriser_gopftw on April 23, 2014 at 4:05 PM

An admirable quality in the potential leader of a political party, to be sure. However, I somehow think the guy offering to ensure voting rights for felons and cutting the DoD budget isn’t hanging on his pollsters every word…

JohnGalt23 on April 23, 2014 at 4:16 PM

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