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posted at 10:41 pm on April 23, 2014 by Allahpundit

Rand Paul came to Chicago yesterday and did something a Republican thinking about running for president typically wouldn’t do: subject himself to a nearly hour-long grilling by the one-time chief political strategist for President Barack Obama.

“You are an intriguing person,” David Axelrod, the former White House senior adviser, now leading the Institute of Politics at the University of Chicago, said at the start of his on-stage conversation with the U.S. senator from Kentucky.

Paul, a favorite of the limited-government Tea Party movement who is considering a bid for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination, used stops in Chicago — Obama’s hometown — as the latest venues in offering himself as a different kind of Republican pushing his party to grow beyond its base.

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Sen. Rand Paul is taking full advantage of Congress’s recess with a tour of speaking engagements in Real America. But more importantly, he used the time away from Washington to cultivate a decidedly different image: not the libertarian spark plug most people think of when they think of Rand Paul, but an old-fashioned, issues-oriented compassionate conservative.

Speaking at Josephinum Academy, a Catholic girls’ high school in Chicago, Paul talked to parents and students about public-school alternatives and supported the right for religious schools like Josephinum to receive federal money. School vouchers and charter schools have long been conservatives’ workaround to push against the public education system without seeming like they were pricing out low-income students…

Since starting his first term in the Senate, Paul has made a point to travel around the country speaking to urban communities struggling with poverty—not exactly a friendly setting for Republican politicians.

Some have said that promoting school choice and urban revitalization is part of Paul’s grand plan to welcome minority voters into the GOP’s fold.

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Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) shot back at Bob Dole on Tuesday by arguing that a lack of political experience can be seen as positive.

Speaking to reporters in Chicago, Paul said that he was first a physician and then became a senator, despite people advising him to work his way up through the public service ladder as mayor and state legislator.

“I absolutely disagree with that because I think in some ways, when you have people who are career politicians, they’ve been beaten down by the system and are so part of the system that they can’t see all the problems of the system,” Paul said, according to The Chicago Sun-Times.

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Despite the factual and political accuracy of Paul’s lamentations about Reagan-era fiscal policy, will conservatives reflexively outrage about this? Will it become fodder for the likes of Ted Cruz and Rick Santorum to pledge their undying love for Reagan’s ghost, in contrast to that turncoat Rand?

If any of the above does happen, it will be more of the same from conservatives. Overlooking the party’s 1980s failings is a key component of Reagan idolatry, and, sadly, it would prove they still have no interest in thinking about economics in a truly principled manner…

Yes, Reagan had to contend with a Democratic Congress, but many of the above policies were directly supported and/or proposed by the president. There’s simply no way around it; and Republicans would be better off listening to Rand Paul’s tough words rather than dismiss them as blasphemy.

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In case you missed it, a minor controversy has erupted over Rand Paul’s recent comments about abortion…

From a pragmatic standpoint, however, Paul seems to be saying two things: 1). That he believes in the Thatcher maxim that first you win the argument, then you win the vote, and 2). That the pro-life cause is best served when it stresses areas where their is consensus (banning late-term abortion, for example) and doesn’t get too far over its skis (talking about rape, or stressing “personhood,” transvaginal ultrasounds, etc.)

The real problem for Paul, in my opinion, is that he’s having an honest discussion about a very sensitive topic. There’s no place for that in politics!

This is what happens when politicians think out loud and actually verbalize the things they are thinking. We often complain about scripted politicians who stick to talking points and sound bites, but there’s a good reason why the most boring, disciplined politicians seem to succeed. Would Paul have been better off by simply parrying the question? Probably.

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Many other Republicans are nervous about Paul’s rising stock, much more than they were about the presidential bids of his father, former Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas)…

In a general election Paul would have to defend his proposals to raise the Social Security eligibility age and eliminate capital gains taxes. He would also have to fend off questions about his 2010 statement that the 1964 Civil Rights Act was wrong to prohibit businesses from discriminating against customers and his 1990s description of Social Security as a “Ponzi scheme.”

“He’s never had to defend these views. At some point in a debate with the Democrats, he’ll have to defend these views,” said a senior House Republican aide…

“If there’s a nut movement in the country that he hasn’t found, please call me. He’s now getting involved in the sagebrush matter with Mr. Bundy,” said the GOP staffer. “I worry about a lot of things, but my biggest concern isn’t that Barack Obama is going to take me out at Starbucks with a drone.”

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Kentucky voters are apparently split on whether home-state Sen. Rand Paul should run for president in 2016.

About one-third of Bluegrass State voters, or 31%, say the freshman senator should make a White House bid, while 34% say the Republican shouldn’t seek the presidency, according to a New York Times/Kaiser Family Foundation poll released Wednesday.

Another 32% say they don’t know enough about Paul to say what he should do in 2016.

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Let’s say the Kentucky legislator makes a strong run — winning some states and coming close in others — but doesn’t win the nomination, a scenario that seems more likely than not. He has something going for him in the veepstakes that other Republican also-rans would not: a constituency that might well defect in large numbers from the party in November.

Assuming Paul loses, the Libertarian Party will have an easier task than usual: It will be able to concentrate its organizing among the people who voted for Paul in the primaries. That could easily amount to enough voters to deny Republicans a victory in the general election. (In other words, the libertarian candidate in this situation would be Ralph Nader in reverse.)…

Because Paul has a distinctive constituency … he still has a pretty good shot of being on the ticket — even if he doesn’t make it to the top spot.

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What the GOP needs is an honest, stringent account of how it has ended up where it is – a party that has piled on more debt than was once thought imaginable and until recently, has done nothing much to curtail federal spending. Reagan was a great president in many ways, as Paul says explicitly in these clips.

But Reagan introduced something truly poisonous into American conservatism.
It was the notion that you can eat your cake and have it too, that tax cuts pay for themselves and that deficits don’t matter. This isn’t and wasn’t conservatism; it was a loopy utopian denial of math. And the damage it has done to this country’s fiscal standing has been deep and permanent. It is one of modern conservatism’s cardinal sins. And Paul is addressing it forthrightly – just as he is addressing the terrible, devastating consequences of neo-conservatism for America and the world in the 21st Century.

What we desperately need from the right is this kind of accounting. It’s what reformers on the left did in the 1990s – confronting the failures of their past in charting a new future. Taking on Reagan on fiscal matters may be short-term political death, as Corn suspects and maybe hopes, but it is vital if the GOP is to regain some long-term credibility on the core question of government solvency. Compared with the ideological bromides and slogans of so many others, Rand Paul is a tonic. And a courageous one at that.

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hii NatB… sleep well NatB.. ty 4 the tunes..

going2mars on April 24, 2014 at 1:25 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on April 24, 2014 at 12:56 AM

Peeked again. I love Billy
Squier! And YOU!

KCB on April 24, 2014 at 1:25 AM

Newtie and the Beauty on April 24, 2014 at 1:21 AM

As Doug Giles said in his last column, “all the ranchers have to do to keep the Obama regime off their ranches it to rename them “‘Benghazi.’”

predator on April 24, 2014 at 1:26 AM

But until then, the Central Gubmint (CG) has to show it’s still a knight in shining armour–rusted, dented, frail and useless though it may be, but good-looking (sort of) from a distance. Only then will we be thankful for what the CG hath taken away from the American People and demand the Olde Systeme BACK!

Let’s hope you’re right. As I have stated on these fair pages before, causing a collapse of the private insurance market, and subsequently sallying forth as the white-knight-to-save-the-day with single payer has been their plan all along. However, they have been caught utterly off guard by the speed of the collapse and the associated anger. They are being eaten by the dragon they unleashed. May this spell the end of the democratic party–couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of folks.

Doc Holliday on April 24, 2014 at 1:26 AM

PointnClick on April 24, 2014 at 12:38 AM

Fantastic. Be assured that this will make big, huge, rounds, not only to the feds.

Schadenfreude on April 24, 2014 at 1:26 AM

williamg on April 24, 2014 at 1:20 AM

Tommy Emmanuel has an older brother, Phil. Here he is with some pals.

gh on April 24, 2014 at 1:27 AM

Nite “racist domestic terrorists”.

Nite America.

Schadenfreude on April 24, 2014 at 1:27 AM

It’s a bit math rock, but incredible nonetheless.

Not just a deadhead…a phishhead too. :P

70,000 people camped for 3 days on a mothballed air force base to see them play 7 sets. Epic? Let me show you the hole in my brain.

Murphy9 on April 24, 2014 at 1:29 AM

sleep well fellow “racist domestic terrorist” mr Schad..

going2mars on April 24, 2014 at 1:30 AM

gh on April 24, 2014 at 1:27 AM

….Oh, yeah – forgot….remember, now…

williamg on April 24, 2014 at 1:30 AM

Nite “racist domestic terrorists”.

Nite America.

Schadenfreude on April 24, 2014 at 1:27 AM

Nite holmes!

Murphy9 on April 24, 2014 at 1:30 AM

….Oh, yeah – forgot….remember, now…

williamg on April 24, 2014 at 1:30 AM

Still listening. One of his better ones.

gh on April 24, 2014 at 1:31 AM

Sleep…how can you sleep? Racist domestic terrorists spend the wee hours of night plotting their next racism or terrorism or domestication, no?

Jaibones on April 24, 2014 at 1:32 AM

williamg on April 24, 2014 at 1:33 AM

lol … what I expected … you should look up some of the stuff he was doing with Phil at CASS circa 1999, 2000.

gh on April 24, 2014 at 1:35 AM

Ok, time to hit the sack friends!
tomorrow, the noobs will be here!
And, new trolls!
Maybe HillAREwe will be back, to quote us some more George Soros agitprop!
We’ll see…Have a great night!

Doc Holliday on April 24, 2014 at 1:42 AM

sleep well Doc…

going2mars on April 24, 2014 at 1:43 AM

Device live tweets private conversations

Moving toward no privacy anywhere, anytime, for any reason.

thatsafactjack on April 24, 2014 at 1:44 AM

1h ago
President Obama: US will always be a Pacific nation; calls on maritime issues to be resolved peacefully – @sarahmcourtney

What the heck is that supposed to mean?

Murphy9 on April 24, 2014 at 1:45 AM

Maybe you haven’t been paying attention for a few years now, but a “different” kind of Republican from Bush, McCain, and Romney is exactly what the nation needs.
Unless you’d prefer getting used to saying “President Clinton” again. Which, come to think of it, McCain more or less said he did.
Inkblots on April 23, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Rand Paul is reminding me of John McCain more and more lately.

bluegill on April 24, 2014 at 1:45 AM

Not just a deadhead…a phishhead too. :P

Murphy9 on April 24, 2014 at 1:29 AM

The Grateful Dead? Why, they were the greatest rock ‘n’ roll band to ever walk the face of the Earth.

A little Phil Lesh for your listening pleasure.

One of my faves, because I was in the front row…

JohnGalt23 on April 24, 2014 at 1:46 AM

Face Recognition Software: Is this the end of anonymity for all of us?

They’re not just listening… and posting what you may say… they’re watching, too.

thatsafactjack on April 24, 2014 at 1:46 AM

Going, Going, Gone….

williamg on April 24, 2014 at 1:48 AM

thatsafactjack on April 24

evening…
I saw the facebook side of this when I was in a bar in florida..
maybe 8 of us at the table.. a friend took a bar pic of the table..
her friend wanted to see it and have her facebook it to her..
moments after it hit facebook “tags” names appeared under
most of the faces…like 5 of 7 I think…
the darn thing knew who was at the table from a bar pic…
were so doomed…

going2mars on April 24, 2014 at 1:53 AM

Eric Johnson; Cliffs of Dover. Good night for real this time.

gh on April 24, 2014 at 1:54 AM

Q. What does a Deadhead say after you cut of his drugs for a week?

A. Boy, does this band suck!

Been there, done that.

FOAF on April 24, 2014 at 1:55 AM

They are installing cams at the entrance points of restaraunts and bars connected to facial recognition software. You will receive a text or tweet or facebook message offering you personalized deals and offers. I don’t want to live in that world. I don’t want to live in the city with the sky the color of a TV tuned to static.

Murphy9 on April 24, 2014 at 2:02 AM

The Sprawl, I think it is called.

Murphy9 on April 24, 2014 at 2:03 AM

FOAF on April 24, 2014 at 1:55 AM

….I’ve been clean for over 30 years – and they’re one of the most seminal band of music history. Robert Hunter is in a class with Bob Dylan and Mozart as far as the quality and prolific impact of their songwriting on musical history.

….Jerry Garcia is one of the most seminal vetexs and turning points for the reinterpretations and embellishment of America Eclectic Music who ever lived……from Appalachian Bluegrass to Jazz, Miles Davis and “So What?”……….he’s a key piece of the entire musical puzzle……

….so, I think they’re great…….and I’m looong clean…

williamg on April 24, 2014 at 2:08 AM

Murphy9 on April 24, 2014 at 2:02 AM

then using that data against the citizens in court..
you drank in this bar.. this booze.. your bill was this..you parked in this spot.. and then drove to this bar… … …
you are guilty of drunk driving..
or you ran this light.. double parked here.. were speeding there..

makes the word.. Recluse not sound so bad..

going2mars on April 24, 2014 at 2:08 AM

makes the word.. Recluse not sound so bad..

going2mars on April 24, 2014 at 2:08 AM

I go to work, I enjoy nature, I eat in 99%/time(I can cook better food than most restaurants), I wear disguises…

Ok, I lied about the last one…But maybe I should.

Murphy9 on April 24, 2014 at 2:11 AM

John, Paul and George would be flattered……

williamg on April 24, 2014 at 1:33 AM

Wow, that guy sucks.

Am purchasing album as we speak…

John the Libertarian on April 24, 2014 at 2:20 AM

Murphy9 on April 24

im currently working at home..
ive never owned a car with GPS..
and never owned a cell phone..
and im with you on the cooking part..
better quality food better prepared..
when they start putting web cams in the collared moose n elk were screwed again..

going2mars on April 24, 2014 at 2:20 AM

Jerry Garcia is one of the most

williamg on April 24, 2014 at 2:08 AM

Very hit and miss, probably because of the heroin. Loved his stuff with Old And In The Way. And the Jerry Garcia Band shows were legend.

John the Libertarian on April 24, 2014 at 2:21 AM

They are installing cams at the entrance points of restaraunts and bars connected to facial recognition software. You will receive a text or tweet or facebook message offering you personalized deals and offers. I don’t want to live in that world. I don’t want to live in the city with the sky the color of a TV tuned to static.

Murphy9 on April 24, 2014 at 2:02 AM

Hate to tell you, but I don’t think you have a choice. Fighting the rise of technology is usually a losing battle.

Which is why fidelity to the written word and strict interpretation of the US Constitution, and particularly the limits on the powers of the US Government is so vital. Perhaps more so now than when they were first conceived…

JohnGalt23 on April 24, 2014 at 2:22 AM

JohnGalt23 on April 24, 2014 at 2:22 AM

Once marketers realize that consumers don’t respond well to the micro-targeting, they will turn to something else. On principle I never respond to any ad that has read my google searches.

John the Libertarian on April 24, 2014 at 2:25 AM

Technology has reduced the human to the product. We are advertised to all the time. Mobile devices, facial recognition tech, browsing habits, etc all trying to get every last dime out of us…all while progressives are ensuring that we won’t have any left over dimes to spend on wants or products. It’s one of the reasons I laugh at facebook and google and ad-based revenue in the tech sector. The number of people that have money to purchase crap is shrinking. The people that are advocating the policies that ensure a shrinking consumer market are the same exact tards that expect to profit from consumption.

To hell with them.

Murphy9 on April 24, 2014 at 2:30 AM

Once marketers realize that consumers don’t respond well to the micro-targeting, they will turn to something else. On principle I never respond to any ad that has read my google searches.

John the Libertarian on April 24, 2014 at 2:25 AM

I suspect that it will become so subtle, yet so pervasive, that it will become ingrained in our culture and in our individual consciousness. I also think you overestimate the distaste the average American has for advertising. Lots of people view it as honest information transmission about market conditions. And if that transmission means them getting a good deal, so much the better.

My concern about it is, of course, that government will use this technology and information in ways to threaten our Liberty, while using the old gun-grabbers canard “The Founders could never have envisioned…”

JohnGalt23 on April 24, 2014 at 2:37 AM

Murphy9 on April 24

if you could find a few pennies to purchase that product..
the darn thing is made in china.. or off shore..
Amazon is a wonderful service organization..
most of what they sell wasn’t made here..
so the money…leaves on a boat.. off shore
and we have less pennies next time..

going2mars on April 24, 2014 at 2:38 AM

To hell with them.

Murphy9 on April 24, 2014 at 2:30 AM

“The Founders could never have envisioned…”

JohnGalt23 on April 24, 2014 at 2:37 AM

Well, as to my moniker, I trust free markets above all else. But I’ve got a young daughter, and she’s appalled by targeted advertising. So there’s hope. And when I say young I mean eight years old. Think about it. When advertisers try to get into your dish and pretend they know you, you boot them to the curb.

John the Libertarian on April 24, 2014 at 2:43 AM

President Obama: US will always be a Pacific nation; calls on maritime issues to be resolved peacefully – @sarahmcourtney

What the heck is that supposed to mean?

Murphy9 on April 24, 2014 at 1:45 AM

Guess he doesn’t believe in continental drift. Denier i say.

kcewa on April 24, 2014 at 2:58 AM

Multi-Planet Species by 2023??

http://www.space.com/25594-nasa-mars-missions-multi-planet-species.html

going2mars on April 24, 2014 at 3:04 AM

Johnny Cash – The Man Comes Around

kcewa on April 24, 2014 at 3:06 AM

williamg, I respect your enthusiasm for the GD and I appreciate the fact that you didn’t flame me personally as some might have after my sardonic joke. So I will tell you honestly why that joke resonates with me.

I moved to San Francisco in 1970 and saw the Dead dozens of times in the early ’70s, sometimes in small (~1000 seat) venues such as the old Harding theater. And I saw a lot of great music at times a these shows. There is no question that individually the Dead are excellent musicians.

But after a while I became disenchanted. Their shows seemed to consist mostly of aimless noodling with perhaps a brief flurry of exciting guitar work from Garcia. My taste in music started to tend to stuff that I found more focused, which does not necessarily mean only 3-minute pop songs. I like all kinds of non-classical music with an emphasis on “roots music” including blues, country, jazz, bluegrass and old rock and R&B. I still like the Dead’s albums “Workingman’s Dead” and “American Beauty” precisely because I felt they cut down on the jamming and just wrote (with Hunter) and played some really good songs. But they lost me in the Keith and Donna era.

FOAF on April 24, 2014 at 3:11 AM

But they lost me in the Keith and Donna era.

FOAF on April 24, 2014 at 3:11 AM

You and a multitude other!

Murphy9 on April 24, 2014 at 3:14 AM

Boy does this band suck

kcewa on April 24, 2014 at 3:17 AM

I need some drugs

kcewa on April 24, 2014 at 3:19 AM

the Keith and Donna era.

FOAF on April 24, 2014 at 3:11 AM

Well, okay, Donna just sucked. I think we can all agree on that.

John the Libertarian on April 24, 2014 at 3:26 AM

I need some drugs

kcewa on April 24, 2014 at 3:19 AM

That was the bridge jam that did it for me. Popped my cherry.

John the Libertarian on April 24, 2014 at 3:27 AM

Well, okay, Donna just sucked. I think we can all agree on that.

John the Libertarian on April 24, 2014 at 3:26 AM

It’s funny. I go see Phil play, and they go into Playing in the Band, and at some point, even though there is no female singer, I find myself reflexively saying “Shut up, Donna…”

JohnGalt23 on April 24, 2014 at 3:37 AM

the full res tiff of this is spectacular..

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/details.php?id=PIA13844

going2mars on April 24, 2014 at 3:47 AM

Benefit cuts creating new generation of entrepreneurs, Bank of England suggests

But…but…that’s inhumane.

Benefit cuts are pushing more people into self-employment and helping to create a new generation of entrepreneurs, the Bank of England has suggested.
The Bank announced that one of the most “striking” features of the economic recovery has been the record 4.5 million Britons who are now self-employed.

kcewa on April 24, 2014 at 3:52 AM

Well, okay, Donna just sucked. I think we can all agree on that.

John the Libertarian on April 24, 2014 at 3:26 AM

It’s funny. I go see Phil play, and they go into Playing in the Band, and at some point, even though there is no female singer, I find myself reflexively saying “Shut up, Donna…”

JohnGalt23 on April 24, 2014 at 3:37 AM

The scream does make you cringe. If only they had turned up her monitor so she could hear herself.

kcewa on April 24, 2014 at 3:54 AM

Donna was the Yoko Ono of the Dead.

John the Libertarian on April 24, 2014 at 4:17 AM

Attack on Afghan children’s hospital, April 2014

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US Embassy in Afghanistan confirms 3 Americans killed in Kabul hospital attack – @USEmbassyKabul
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U.S. Embassy Kabul @USEmbassyKabul · 4m

No other information will be released at this time.

U.S. Embassy Kabul @USEmbassyKabul · 5m

With great sadness we confirm that three Americans were killed in the attack on CURE Hospital. No other information will be released at…

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 4:57 AM

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The Associated Press ‏@AP 3m

BREAKING: US Embassy in Kabul confirms 3 doctors killed by Afghan hospital guard are American citizens.

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 4:57 AM

President Obama: US will always be a Pacific nation; calls on maritime issues to be resolved peacefully – @sarahmcourtney

What the heck is that supposed to mean?

Murphy9 on April 24, 2014 at 1:45 AM

Murphy9:0
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Q&A: Japan’s Yomiuri Shimbun interviews President Obama

Published: April 23

Following is a transcript of a written interview with President Obama conducted by the Yomiuri Shimbun. The White House provided the newspaper with Obama’s answers on Monday, in advance of the president’s trip to Asia.
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QUESTION: Asian allies of the United States very much appreciate the “Asia rebalance strategy” of the Obama administration. Could you please describe the core objectives of the policy in your own words? What do you think China is aiming at when they advocate a “new type of major power relations?” China claims sovereignty over the Senkaku Islands. Would you officially declare that the Islands are covered by Article 5 of the U.S.-Japan Mutual Security treaty? What do you expect China and Japan to do to in order to lessen the tensions in the area?

PRESIDENT OBAMA: America is and always will be a Pacific nation,

and at my direction the United States is once again playing a leading role in the region,

in close partnership with allies like Japan. We seek security, where international law and norms are upheld and disputes are resolved peacefully. We seek prosperity, where trade and investment leads to broad-based economic growth and nations play by the same rules. We seek respect for fundamental freedoms and universal human rights, because we believe in the inherent dignity of every human being.

Our strategy is a long-term commitment to this region and its people, and I’m proud of our progress so far. Our alliances, including with Japan, are stronger than ever and we’re modernizing our defense posture across the region. Our trade is growing and we’re working to complete the Trans-Pacific Partnership. We’re deepening our ties with emerging powers like China, India and Indonesia. We’re more closely engaged with regional institutions like ASEAN and the East Asia Summit. We’re standing with citizens, including the people of Burma, as they work toward a democratic future.

With regard to China, the new model of relations we seek between our two countries is based on my belief that we can work together on issues of mutual interest, both regionally and globally, and that both our nations have to resist the danger of slipping into conflict, which is not inevitable. For example, both the United States and China have an interest in the global economic recovery, the denuclearization of North Korea and addressing climate change. In other words, we welcome the continuing rise of a China that is stable, prosperous and peaceful and plays a responsible role in global affairs. And our engagement with China does not and will not come at the expense of Japan or any other ally. (More……)
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/qanda-japans-yomiuri-shimbun-interviews-president-obama/2014/04/23/d01bb5fc-cae3-11e3-95f7-7ecdde72d2ea_story.html

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 5:46 AM

So unbelievably ridiculous. There are actually multiple entries applauding him for taking on Reagan ?!

Please. I get that deficits and debt are bad. The jackass in the white house currently has proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

But at least Reagan GOT SOMETHING for his debt and deficits – massive economic renaissance and a military that restored the nation’s respectability and ended the Soviet Union. What the hell has Obama gotten from his debt and deficit ?

Right, nothing. Big, big, BIG difference. But by all means, let’s focus on the guy who DID get something from it 30 years ago and not the incompetent oaf doing it now. And let’s continue to pretend that there weren’t 3 OTHER presidents in between.

deadrody on April 24, 2014 at 5:47 AM

Ukraine:

Ukraine, Russia political crisis
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Slaviansk rebels order civilians out of town hall as they take up positions inside – @marcburleigh
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Ukraine, Russia political crisis
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Ukrainian troops pictured on the outskirts of Sloviansk – @AFP via @mikewhills
see original on twitter.com

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 5:50 AM

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#Ukraine #Slavyansk RT @mikewhills: Ukrainian troops pictured on the outskirts of #Sloviansk (Kirill Kudryavtsev/AFP) pic.twitter.com/LzETti8LOr

https://twitter.com/mikewhills/status/459264563427672064/photo/1/large

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 5:52 AM

Well,…..Sh*t is hitting da fan:

ian bremmer ‏@ianbremmer 22m

Ukraine truce officially done for. Kremlin, looking for any excuse for more trouble, now has one.
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Ukrainian special forces outside Sloviansk, Donetsk Oblast, advancing on Russian invaders. pic.twitter.com/aXgOtygpS8
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Ukrainian army drive off at high speed after #Sloviansk checkpoint attack, reports of fatalities. pic.twitter.com/dChfXxmxN7
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Ukraine’s Interior Ministry says 3 checkpoints outside Slovyansk destroyed, “5 terrorists neutralized” http://mvs.gov.ua/mvs/control/main/uk/publish/article/1034345
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.@ianbremmer It’s more that #Russia was looking for an excuse to get involved thru its provocations in Eastern #Ukraine
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Ukraine truce officially done for. Kremlin, looking for any excuse for more trouble, now has one.

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 6:01 AM

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Ukrainian forces near the entrance of Sloviansk, reports of shots fired – via @obk
see original on twitter.com

https://twitter.com/obk/status/459260852210651136/photo/1

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 6:09 AM

Tweets

Olaf Koens ‏@obk 40m

The barricades are burning now, military helicopter circling over Slavyansk; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-wJVTUGUF0
View media

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-wJVTUGUF0

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 6:10 AM

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Russia’s Lavrov says ‘Unresolved military and political issues in Europe have led to a crisis in South Caucasus and affected Ukraine in the past months’ – @MFA_Russia

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 6:13 AM

Peterson Tavil ‏@Ptavil 1m

“@WSJ: #Ukraine’s interior minister says Kiev has regained control of the city council in the port city of Mariupol http://on.wsj.com/1ibLVty
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Ukraine Interior Minister Says Kiev Took Back Control of Eastern City Council
Action Among Signs That Geneva Agreement Is Crumbling
By
Lukas I. Alpert
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April 24, 2014 4:49 a.m. ET
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MOSCOW—Ukraine regained control overnight of the city council in the port city of Mariupol, as Kiev restarted a military operation to drive our pro-Russian militants who had taken over cities in the eastern part of the country, the Interior Minister said Thursday.

The relaunched operation follows warnings from Russia on Wednesday that it would consider any attack on Russian citizens there an attack on itself and would be forced to respond. The renewed action is among growing signs that an agreement reached last week in Geneva laying out steps to reduce the tension is falling apart.

President Barack Obama said during a visit to Tokyo that Russia hasn’t been abiding by the spirit or letter of the agreement, and he warned that the U.S. was prepared to impose additional sanctions.

Ukraine’s Interior Minister Arsen Avakov said there were no casualties in the operation to take back the council building in the southeastern city, which had been under pro-Russian control since April 13. He said the city’s mayor had already returned to his office but police were checking the buildings for explosives.

“The process of normalizing the situation in the city is continuing,” he said.

But the local interior ministry in the Donetsk region where Mariupol is located said the clash initially involved a group of about 30 unknown people armed with bats who demanded the pro-Russian protesters leave the building. A fight then broke out, after which police arrived.

According to the local ministry statement, five people were hurt and required medical attention. The statement didn’t say whether the building had been cleared.

Mr. Avakov also reported that a group of 70 people he said were being led by Russian military officers attacked a military base in the city of Artemovsk in an effort to seize weapons. He said the attack was repulsed but that soldiers had been wounded.

It wasn’t immediately clear if there were casualties among the attackers, he said.

Officials in Kiev have repeatedly accused Russia of having agents operating on the ground in the east to foment unrest. Russia denies this, but has moved tens of thousands of troops to the Ukrainian border.

Meanwhile, on Thursday, Russia’s foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, accused the U.S. and the European Union of having tried to organize another “color revolution” in Ukraine in the run-up to the ouster of former-President Viktor Yanukovych in February.

Several former-Soviet states underwent “color revolutions” between 2003-2005—including Ukraine’s Orange Revolution—in which waves of street protests led to new, more pro-Western governments taking charge.

The Russian-leaning Mr. Yanukovych was elected in 2010 after voters grew frustrated with squabbling among Ukraine’s West-leaning leaders. But anger grew after he rejected a cooperation agreement with the EU.

Russia has accused the West of supporting the pro-European protesters who took over Kiev’s main square and several government buildings for months before Mr. Yanukovych was driven from office.

“In Ukraine—let’s call a spade a spade—this was an attempt by the United States and the European Union to bring off another ‘color revolution,’ or unconstitutional regime change,” he said, according to Russian news agencies.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304788404579520984220917664?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304788404579520984220917664.html

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 6:23 AM

if you could find a few pennies to purchase that product..
the darn thing is made in china.. or off shore..
Amazon is a wonderful service organization..
most of what they sell wasn’t made here..
so the money…leaves on a boat.. off shore
and we have less pennies next time..

going2mars on April 24, 2014 at 2:38 AM

Shop locally and buy American. I live near small villages. I can get almost anything here but people get in their cars and go to the next city to Walmart. I get that Walmart has cheaper stuff but almost all is made in China. Around here you can buy a computer, get shoes repaired, buy a car, find a chiropracter, get insurance and financial help. Stop getting insurance from online companies. Go to your local insurance agent. Stay away from those tv loan sharks. Give your charity money to local food banks or church charities.

crankyoldlady on April 24, 2014 at 6:24 AM

Morning joe panel are crucifying Bundy the ‘nut job’

Apparently made some racist comments

This is a huge gift to us to sterotype all Republicans
-howard dean

cmsinaz on April 24, 2014 at 6:25 AM

Who needs to watch the news when we have canopfor.

crankyoldlady on April 24, 2014 at 6:27 AM

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Russian President Vladimir Putin criticizes Kiev over Ukraine crisis, says there will be consequences if it uses army against people – @Reuters, @bishopk
see original on twitter.com

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 6:41 AM

Who needs to watch the news when we have canopfor.

crankyoldlady on April 24, 2014 at 6:27 AM

crankyoldlady:

It appears Ukraine is cleaning out the CommiePinkoGoons/GoonEttes!!:0

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 6:44 AM

Who needs to watch the news when we have canopfor.

crankyoldlady on April 24, 2014 at 6:27 AM

Yep, and on top of that he does not treat us like a Gorby. Morning early risers.

HonestLib on April 24, 2014 at 6:53 AM

cmsinaz on April 24, 2014 at 6:25 AM

Welcome back CMS!

You knew that was coming…looking for anything to paint him as
a whack job.

bazil9 on April 24, 2014 at 6:56 AM

It appears Ukraine is cleaning out the CommiePinkoGoons/GoonEttes!!:0

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 6:44 AM

In the meantime, Russia is erecting the “Coming Summer 2016″ signs all along their Western Borders, aka Ukraine’s Eastern provinces. Because, after all, what’s the point of having Crimea if you have to take a boat to get there from Mother Russia.

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2014 at 6:58 AM

You knew that was coming…looking for anything to paint him as
a whack job.

bazil9 on April 24, 2014 at 6:56 AM

Something like that will backfire. It makes the Bundys look sympathetic.

crankyoldlady on April 24, 2014 at 7:00 AM

COL…been to Apalachicola..but 20 yrs back, while in college.
It was a quaint and lovely little place on the water.
Not sure what it is like now.

bazil9 on April 24, 2014 at 7:03 AM

COL…been to Apalachicola..but 20 yrs back, while in college.
It was a quaint and lovely little place on the water.
Not sure what it is like now.

bazil9 on April 24, 2014 at 7:03 AM

I saw something on tv about it and decided the panhandle might be a tolerable and warm place.

crankyoldlady on April 24, 2014 at 7:05 AM

crankyoldlady on April 24, 2014 at 7:05 AM

The Panhandle is lovely. I call it FlordaBama.

bazil9 on April 24, 2014 at 7:07 AM

Tweets

Retweeted by Ukrainian Updates
Harriet Salem ‏@HarrietSalem 17m

#Ukraine military checkpoint on highway to #Sloviansk. At least 4 APCs. Soldier says they are part of anti terror op pic.twitter.com/RSenS1cUlP

https://twitter.com/HarrietSalem/status/459282730229186560/photo/1/large

Retweeted by Ukrainian Updates
ConflictBreakingNews ‏@MiddleEast_BRK 18m

Close-up on Ukrainian special forces, participating in the #Sloviansk checkpoints operation. No regular troops, imo. pic.twitter.com/0z5Ns8MSy9

https://twitter.com/MiddleEast_BRK/status/459282594115244032/photo/1/large

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 7:08 AM

LOL,…ahems:

Retweeted by TDF
The Voice of Russia ‏@VoiceofRussia 7m

#BREAKING #Lavrov: #Kiev authorities’ decision to use army is criminal LIVE UPDATES http://bit.ly/1ftlfQm

https://twitter.com/TheDailyFreedom

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 7:10 AM

bazil9 on April 24, 2014 at 6:56 AM

morning B9 :)

cmsinaz on April 24, 2014 at 7:11 AM

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 6:44 AM

In the meantime, Russia is erecting the “Coming Summer 2016″ signs all along their Western Borders, aka Ukraine’s Eastern provinces. Because, after all, what’s the point of having Crimea if you have to take a boat to get there from Mother Russia.

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2014 at 6:58 AM

Happy Nomad: Maybes a Land Yacht, might work!(sarc):0

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 7:13 AM

Ugh,….me manners:

Good Morning Everyone:)

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 7:13 AM

Good Morning Canop!

bazil9 on April 24, 2014 at 7:14 AM

Where the heck has Miss Flora been?

bazil9 on April 24, 2014 at 7:15 AM

In case anyone missed GaffeBidens,..Ukraine has hot Chics (sarc)

Ukrainian Updates ‏@Ukroblogger Apr 22

Will #Biden’s current #Ukraine trip prove to b as lighthearted as his last one (’09)? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ukraine-women-beautiful-women-world-vice-president-joe-biden-article-1.428438 … #US pic.twitter.com/su2L6GDDNn

https://twitter.com/Ukroblogger/status/458579729260347392/photo/1/large

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 7:17 AM

I don’t think I said good morning either so good morning everyone.

crankyoldlady on April 24, 2014 at 7:17 AM

sam stein trying to defend the keystone delay

it sounds like dear leader will deny the pipeline….

cmsinaz on April 24, 2014 at 7:20 AM

Rooskie Convoy:

TDF ‏@TheDailyFreedom 5m

Massive Russian troop movement near #Rostov heading for “Donetsk Republic” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5GOA5AyTnY … #RussianInvasion #UkraineWar @DefenceUA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5GOA5AyTnY

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 7:20 AM

Where the heck has Miss Flora been?

bazil9 on April 24, 2014 at 7:15 AM

bazil9: I dunno,..alot of commenters are MIA,..me thinks:)

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 7:21 AM

Reid: ‘Something Will Happen’ To Stop Nevada Rancher Cliven Bundy

bazil9 on April 24, 2014 at 7:18 AM

Why does that sound like a threat when uttered by the Dems head cryptkeeper?

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2014 at 7:22 AM

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Retweeted by TDF
Ukraine Reporter ‏@StateOfUkraine 2m

We’ve recieved information that pro-#Kremlin forces are taking up positions in schools in #Sloviansk #Ukraine. We can’t confirm this yet

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 7:23 AM

Reid: ‘Something Will Happen’ To Stop Nevada Rancher Cliven Bundy

bazil9 on April 24, 2014 at 7:18 AM

Good article.

crankyoldlady on April 24, 2014 at 7:23 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! And, Basement Dweller…Mom says your bowl of Count Chocula is ready!

Liberty is Freedom with Responsibility.

– Johnny McDonald

My take: What is Happening to the Soul of Our Nation?

kingsjester on April 24, 2014 at 7:24 AM

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Ukrainian troops withdraw from checkpoint they had taken over earlier north of the eastern city of Slaviansk, @Reuters journalist says

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 7:25 AM

We’ve recieved information that pro-#Kremlin forces are taking up positions in schools in #Sloviansk #Ukraine. We can’t confirm this yet

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 7:23 AM

Pro-Kremlin forces is code for Russian Army.

But never fear, the rat-eared wonder says the US is ready with more sanctions- an empty threat from an empty suit. But in the meantime, maybe we should think about sending Biden to Sloviansk to check things out.

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2014 at 7:28 AM

sam stein trying to defend the keystone delay

it sounds like dear leader will deny the pipeline….

cmsinaz on April 24, 2014 at 7:20 AM

cmsinaz:

I haven’t seen this anywhere, but Carter stepped into it a week or so ago!:)
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April 16, 2014, 07:36 am
Carter comes out against Keystone XL pipeline

By Rebecca Shabad
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Former President Carter came out against the Keystone XL oil pipeline on Wednesday with a group of Nobel laureates.

“You stand on the brink of making a choice that will define your legacy on one of the greatest challenges humanity has ever faced – climate change,” Carter and the others wrote in an open letter to President Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry.

Carter becomes the first former president who has publicly opposed the construction of the northern leg of the pipeline, which would run 1,179 miles from Canada into the United States.

Former President George W. Bush once called the proposal a “no-brainer,” The Washington Post notes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/04/16/jimmy-carter-comes-out-against-keystone-xl-pipeline/?wprss=rss_politics&clsrd
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http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/203646-former-president-carter-comes-out-against-keystone-xl

canopfor on April 24, 2014 at 7:31 AM

Until Kentucky law is changed, Paul wont run for President. Our State Constitution prohibits him from running for two Offices at the same time, and he is not going to give up his guaranteed win Senate seat in an attempt to win the Primary.

A bill was introduced this legislative session to change the law but was not voted on and the clock ran out for his chances for the remainder of this year.

Johnnyreb on April 24, 2014 at 7:31 AM

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