Chris Hayes: In a way, abolishing global warming is like abolishing slavery

posted at 6:41 pm on April 23, 2014 by Allahpundit

Via RCP, he doesn’t mean morally. He’s quick to say that there’s no moral comparison between them; even on MSNBC, there are evils worse than climate change. He means they’re logistically similar: The only precedent for convincing powerful interests to disgorge themselves of trillions of dollars of wealth for the greater good is the end of slavery, a process which involved more than “convincing.” It’s interesting watching this after spending two months watching Putin kick off Cold War II in Ukraine. Russia in particular would lose lots of wealth if fossil fuels became verboten. Per some analyses, because parts of it are so frigid, Russia also might actually benefit as its climate warms. Given all that, how willing will Czar Vladimir and his successors be, do you suppose, to shift to green energy in territories under their direct or indirect control? How about in the Middle East, an area of great population growth? How willing will global fossil-fuel interests and their many political cronies be? How should we go about “convincing” them?

We could focus on the demand side, choking off consumption of fossil fuels, but transitioning entire national economies to a clean-energy standard will be a gradual process and — I thought — we’re already basically out of time. Now we need to start building climate-controlled cities or whatever and hunker down. But there’s a potential silver lining in that for Hayes and company: As conservatives learned long ago when it comes to entitlements and unsustainable debt, there is and will be no consensus for action until the crisis is so severe that there’s no other option. Fiscal cons will never get a hearing on Medicare until America literally can’t make the payments for grandma anymore. Maybe warmists are doomed to the same fate, where “abolitionism” catches on only after the seas have risen 20 feet. And if the sea levels don’t end up rising much, no worries — in a few decades we’ll be on to an entirely different environmental panic. Malthusian ones are my favorites.


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Alarmists, you forgot the word alarmists!

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 6:43 PM

Is that dude a dude?

oldroy on April 23, 2014 at 6:44 PM

Will there be another War Between the States to bring this to fruition?
///

Bitter Clinger on April 23, 2014 at 6:44 PM

Idjit.

fogw on April 23, 2014 at 6:45 PM

In a way abolishing Chris Hayes would be like abolishing stupidity.

VorDaj on April 23, 2014 at 6:45 PM

It’s a good thing (for them) the climate change religion isn’t as real as what it believes in.

Naga_Jolokia on April 23, 2014 at 6:48 PM

We should have a national “Crying Into Our Sweater” day to bring awareness to global wormening.

Bishop on April 23, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Is that dude a dude?

oldroy on April 23, 2014 at 6:44 PM

Changes glasses and clothes, runs to a different set and becomes Rachel Madcow….

dentarthurdent on April 23, 2014 at 6:50 PM

We should have a national “Crying Into Our Sweater” day to bring awareness to global wormening.

Bishop on April 23, 2014 at 6:49 PM

What – global worming?
Is that about dogs or fishing?

dentarthurdent on April 23, 2014 at 6:51 PM

Leftist thugs always insult real slavery.

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 6:51 PM

Tell me, why does Al Gore, who travels almost exclusively by carbon-spewing jet, and have a home that uses 20 times the electricity of an average homeowner, hate black people and want to see them back in chains? How about your average Hollywood mansion owner and jetsetter? Never knew they were such racists.

Take global warming seriously, morons, and maybe we’ll think about doing the same.

Eviva on April 23, 2014 at 6:52 PM

I don’t think slavery was a hoax

The Notorious G.O.P on April 23, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Would war with China be justified if they refuse to cut their carbon emissions?

If human survival and the very existence of the earth is at stake, why such intransigence?

TaraMaclay on April 23, 2014 at 6:53 PM

Rosa Parks was better looking.

NotCoach on April 23, 2014 at 6:54 PM

I’m surprised he didn’t suggest defecating in Palin’s mouth.

John the Libertarian on April 23, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Where is Martin Bashir when you need him ?

burrata on April 23, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Will there be another War Between the States to bring this to fruition?
///

Bitter Clinger on April 23, 2014 at 6:44 PM

If not this, something else. Its almost as if someone wants another civil war, ’cause the conditions are becoming ripe for one, especially with all the inflammatory demagoguery emanating from many on the Left.

hawkeye54 on April 23, 2014 at 6:55 PM

For Chrissy

Obama will burn more than 35,000 gallons of fuel on Earth Day, emitting 375 TONS of carbon dioxide

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 6:57 PM

50 stranded environmentalist on a frozen ice flow could not be reached for a comment.

Rovin on April 23, 2014 at 6:58 PM

Another piece of…work

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 6:59 PM

If you leave that stuff in the ground, I have an eight mile walk to work. I wish I were a rich guy with a tv show.

BatGuano on April 23, 2014 at 6:59 PM

This climate change nonsense will precipitate the return of slavery, you fool!

We will all be slaves of the state. We will live in our hovels and eat dandylions. We will fuel our fires with scrounged table legs and old mattreses. I will warm myself by taking out my frustrations on alarmists that make this dire future come to pass.

freedomfirst on April 23, 2014 at 7:00 PM

I don’t think slavery was a hoax

The Notorious G.O.P on April 23, 2014 at 6:52 PM

No. And I don’t think there were skeptics that people called “slavery deniers” either.

Bitter Clinger on April 23, 2014 at 7:01 PM

This climate change nonsense will precipitate the return of slavery, you fool!

freedomfirst on April 23, 2014 at 7:00 PM

What’s wrong with that
/Moochaintoinette

burrata on April 23, 2014 at 7:03 PM

They won’t give up. They’ll just give up the carrot and bresk out the stick. They want the money and control much too bad to let it go.

“we are forcing you for your own good”, like they do on everything else when the sales pitch flops.

It’s just what liberal fascist do.

wolly4321 on April 23, 2014 at 7:05 PM

Chris Hayes is the next Harriet Tubman. Or Jane Pittman. I forget which, just go with it.

Bishop on April 23, 2014 at 7:08 PM

Do they ever show Hayes and Maddow together, just sayin.

Sven on April 23, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Yeah climate change is so dire that we have to give up our property, liberty, and conveniences for it…kind of like slaves to our “betters” who decide how many bricks we produce for the day and whether we get to use straw.

Murphy9 on April 23, 2014 at 7:15 PM

He give us like 20 words denying it is a moral comparison then goes on with over 4,600 more to tell us it is a moral comparison. Hayes doth protest too much… or hardly at all as the case may be. I wrote about this last night….MSNBC’s Chris Hayes: Preventing Global Warming Is Like Freeing Slaves.

Warner Todd Huston on April 23, 2014 at 7:17 PM

Will there be another War Between the States to bring this to fruition?
///

Bitter Clinger on April 23, 2014 at 6:44 PM

No! Smokeless powder emits CO2.

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 7:19 PM

In the marketplace of ideas, MSNBC is the Kwik-E-Mart.

Also:

#maddowindrag

wytshus on April 23, 2014 at 7:19 PM

In a way abolishing Chris Hayes would be like abolishing stupidity.

VorDaj on April 23, 2014 at 6:45 PM

No. you have to chop off the bitten arm and it has to be with 3 seconds of the bite.

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 7:23 PM

Proposal for the Twenty-eighth Amendment:

“Neither the slavery of Global Warming nor the involuntary servitude of Climate Change, except as a punishment for crime whereof the Democrat party has been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”

Next.

flyovermark on April 23, 2014 at 7:27 PM

One thing that drives me bonkers about these anti-oil types are that they always say that the only beneficiaries of abundant oil and gas are the heads of the corporations who produce it. They have no regard whatsoever for all the high paying middle class jobs the companies provide, not to mention the benefits of cheaper energy for the middle and lower classes.

juliesa on April 23, 2014 at 7:27 PM

So many ‘ifs’. If there had been no New England greedy shipping interests, there would have been little to no slavery on the N. American continent. If Eli Whitney had never been born…If Chris Hayes’ parents had chosen to abort…

vnvet on April 23, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Why would I spend $3.40 to prevent a $2.00 expense?

blink on April 23, 2014 at 7:27 PM

Keynesianism!!!!

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 7:33 PM

Pointy head….

d1carter on April 23, 2014 at 7:34 PM

As one of our favorite bloggers (Instapundit) is wont to say:

“I’LL BELIEVE IT’S A CRISIS WHEN THE PEOPLE WHO TELL ME IT’S A CRISIS START ACTING LIKE IT’S A CRISIS”

Elsewise, meh.

Infidelius on April 23, 2014 at 7:49 PM

Tell me, why does Al Gore, who travels almost exclusively by carbon-spewing jet, and have a home that uses 20 times the electricity of an average homeowner, hate black people and want to see them back in chains? How about your average Hollywood mansion owner and jetsetter? Never knew they were such racists.

Take global warming seriously, morons, and maybe we’ll think about doing the same.

Eviva on April 23, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Because Al Gore is one of the high priests in the man made global warming religion cult… He all other high priests i.e. every liberal hypocrite like him are entitled to do what ever they want to do as long as they preach the man made global warming religion cults to their stupid followers… Now go and purify yourself for uttering such a blasphemy against Al Gore and the holy man made global religion cult by buying a paper of indulgence to save your soul and that is called carbon credit certification…

mnjg on April 23, 2014 at 7:49 PM

Which part-time Hotair blogger was talking about being friends with this idiotic little dipshit? Shame on them. He’s too stupid for words.

Jaibones on April 23, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Why would I spend $3.40 to prevent a $2.00 expense?

blink on April 23, 2014 at 7:27 PM

Liberalism in a nutshell.

Bitter Clinger on April 23, 2014 at 7:51 PM

Which part-time Hotair blogger was talking about being friends with this idiotic little dipshit? Shame on them. He’s too stupid for words.

Jaibones on April 23, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Guy Benson.

He’s also “too stupid for words”.

Bitter Clinger on April 23, 2014 at 7:52 PM

I don’t pay attention to Pajama Boyz!

Jayrae on April 23, 2014 at 7:52 PM

That would be create a new party out of the Republican party have a war and defeat Democrats. Thanks Chris.

Then deal with all the Democrat Jim Crow-climate laws that are enacted by Democrats following their defeat to retain their power.

And then flip.

bour3 on April 23, 2014 at 7:59 PM

One thing that drives me bonkers about these anti-oil types are that they always say that the only beneficiaries of abundant oil and gas are the heads of the corporations who produce it. They have no regard whatsoever for all the high paying middle class jobs the companies provide, not to mention the benefits of cheaper energy for the middle and lower classes.

juliesa on April 23, 2014 at 7:27 PM

Oil and Gas jobs are one of the best paying jobs in the country… Millions of people work directly or indirectly in the oil and gas industry from the people digging the wells, to the people working in refineries, to the people laying out the pipelines, to the people working in gas stations, to the people manufacturing all the equipment and materials for the oil and gas industry, to the people working in transporting oil and gas… However many of the liberals morons do not have the brain capacity to understand this and if some of them know it they will deny it and lie about it…
Moreover oil and gas make the whole world run from transportations (cars, planes), power plants, plastics, elastomers, heating, and many more products we use in our daily life because of oil and gas…

mnjg on April 23, 2014 at 7:59 PM

Guy Benson.

He’s also “too stupid for words”.

Bitter Clinger on April 23, 2014 at 7:52 PM

Bing. Are they both gay, or just Benson? (NTTAWWT)

Jaibones on April 23, 2014 at 8:03 PM

Chris Hayes is right
In a way, abolishing global warming is like abolishing slavery
Because it will take a Republican to put an end to it.

J_Crater on April 23, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Chris Hayes: In a way, abolishing global warming is like abolishing slavery

No, abolishing abortion is the new abolitionism.

Because abolishing abortion & abolition of slavery both:
…are based in reality (unlike AGW),
…are about protecting human beings’ very lives (unlike AGW), &
…are causes led by Christians (unlike AGW).

itsnotaboutme on April 23, 2014 at 8:05 PM

It is almost always foolish to compare a modern political issue to slavery

The abortion holocaust is far worse than slavery was.

itsnotaboutme on April 23, 2014 at 8:06 PM

In a way, abolishing Chris Hayes is like abolishing Joseph Goebbels…

ExpressoBold on April 23, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Does anybody take this nonsense seriously? From “deniers” with its not so subtle connotations to now being compared to slavery?

Why stop there? Why not just go all out and start calling skeptics Beelzebub?

Alex1234 on April 23, 2014 at 8:15 PM

Chris Hayes, I imagine is an atheist .. Wonder what he will do when he finds out how hot Hell is and there is nothing he can do about it for eternity. Just wondering about it.

garydt on April 23, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Hayes, what and idjit.

jake49 on April 23, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Chris Hayes knows a lot about abolishing. He abolished PMSNBC of their ratings when he took over for Special Ed Schlitz.

Myron Falwell on April 23, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Nothing new here, just another kook!!

mobydutch on April 23, 2014 at 8:42 PM

wonder how they will make plastics out of sunshine.
and how will they make windmills w/o oil?

they seem to think oil only powers electricity/traveling.
need oil to make the parts for the items they want to replace oil with.

dmacleo on April 23, 2014 at 8:44 PM

So this person’s Mentor is Melissa Harris Perry??

ToddPA on April 23, 2014 at 8:49 PM

…gawd!…what a dork!

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Which part-time Hotair blogger was talking about being friends with this idiotic little dipshit? Shame on them. He’s too stupid for words.

Jaibones on April 23, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Guy Benson.

He’s also “too stupid for words”.

Bitter Clinger on April 23, 2014 at 7:52 PM

When was this posted? Because I totally believe it.

Myron Falwell on April 23, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Thats great but, who’s Chris Hayes?

jephthah on April 23, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Or abolishing abortion, adultery and child abuse. Let them fix those, and we’ll talk.

flataffect on April 23, 2014 at 8:58 PM

Isn’t it kind of funny how liberals try to make up issues to compete with the ones that conservative Republicans actually accomplished?

The Whig base split with the elitist leaders who were dragging their feet addressing the issue of slavery. That Whig base became the Republican Party who rallied on their 2nd election to elect Republican President Lincoln. Slavery was abolished, then segregation overturned, and then Civil Rights passed.

Meanwhile Democrat leaders funded the KKK.

And now Democrat media whines that maybe their nature worship is maybe, kind of, sort of, similar to abolishing slavery. Pathetic loathsome little creatures realize they have accomplished nothing worth mentioning, and feeling diminished… as they should.

dominigan on April 23, 2014 at 9:08 PM

He’s an ass. Sorry, but that’s how I see it.

RI_Red on April 23, 2014 at 9:24 PM

Which part-time Hotair blogger was talking about being friends with this idiotic little dipshit? Shame on them. He’s too stupid for words.

Jaibones on April 23, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Guy Benson.

He’s also “too stupid for words”.

Bitter Clinger on April 23, 2014 at 7:52 PM

When was this posted? Because I totally believe it.

Myron Falwell on April 23, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Here it is.

Bitter Clinger on April 23, 2014 at 9:25 PM

Mazer9, if your out there, what you’re seeing is the logical extension of your beliefs. A belittlement of western civilizations accomplishments.

Don’t believe me? Ask those 100 Nigerian teenage girls taken as slaves, the DAY after our last bout.

Enjoy your nihilism.

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 9:26 PM

Here it is.

Bitter Clinger on April 23, 2014 at 9:25 PM

…that killed GB for me…don’t care what he writes…if he could be friends with that dork for ten years… and I don’t need any explanations!

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2014 at 9:32 PM

…that killed GB for me…don’t care what he writes…if he could be friends with that dork for ten years… and I don’t need any explanations!

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2014 at 9:32 PM

Keep in mind, before you get too down on them, that Rush Limbaugh dated Daryn Kagan for quite a while.

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 9:37 PM

…that killed GB for me…don’t care what he writes…if he could be friends with that dork for ten years… and I don’t need any explanations!

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2014 at 9:32 PM

Keep in mind, before you get too down on them, that Rush Limbaugh dated Daryn Kagan for quite a while.

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 9:37 PM

Rush (circa 1992) > Rush (today) > HotGas commenters > A Ham Sandwich > Jen Rubin > The crease in David Brooks’ pants > Ann Coulter > Guy Benson

Myron Falwell on April 23, 2014 at 10:20 PM

It’s hard to know who knows less about what he is talking about Chris Hayes or Al Sharpton.

KenInIL on April 23, 2014 at 10:37 PM

Freed the slaves, enslaved the nation. Who do we enslave now to fix this new crisis??? Whoever it is… by god, we can NOT feed them beans.

thermocline on April 23, 2014 at 10:38 PM

Hey Chris

FYI – there has always been climate change, and there always will be. It was not that long ago (geologically speaking) that Boston and Chicago were covered with a thousand feet of ice. All that ice melted away, without any human input (except for a few Paleolithic campfires).

There are many factors outside of human control that help determine climate – with the variability of the solar radiation reaching the Earth being just the most blatantly obvious factor.

“Abolishing” climate change is about as realistic as “abolishing” gravity.

SubmarineDoc on April 23, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Via RCP, he doesn’t mean morally. He’s quick to say that there’s no moral comparison between them; even on MSNBC, there are evils worse than climate change.

It’s the 21st century and he’s making an argument that has the people who disagree with him analogous to slaveholders. Yes, I’m sure he really meant that as a completely economic argument. That’s a totally plausible disclaimer.

Just how f*cking stupid does he think his readers are? Hmm, then again, he’s probably right on that score.

RINO in Name Only on April 24, 2014 at 2:08 AM

These folks won’t be satisfied until we regress into the Stone Age.

They of course will not find such a coarse existence to their liking, but the rest of us will take it and like it or else.

Hayes needs to experience the Paleo Diet but on a sabre tooth’s platter.

Hayes: it’s what’s for dinner.

Sherman1864 on April 24, 2014 at 6:17 AM

Hayes simply presents more evidence that our world has gone absolutely bonkers…

zoyclem on April 24, 2014 at 7:34 AM

If it looks like an idiot and it sounds like an idiot chances are…

iceman1960 on April 24, 2014 at 7:59 AM

“The recent surge of U.S. oil and natural gas production has been nothing short of astonishing. For the past three years, the United States has been the world’s fastest-growing hydrocarbon producer, and the trend is not likely to stop anytime soon. U.S. natural gas production has risen by 25 percent since 2010, and the only reason it has temporarily stalled is that investments are required to facilitate further growth.

Having already outstripped Russia as the world’s largest gas producer, by the end of the decade, the United States will become one of the world’s largest gas exporters, fundamentally changing pricing and trade patterns in global energy markets. U.S. oil production, meanwhile, has grown by 60 percent since 2008, climbing by three million barrels a day to more than eight million barrels a day.

Within a couple of years, it will exceed its old record level of almost ten million barrels a day as the United States overtakes Russia and Saudi Arabia and becomes the world’s largest oil producer. And U.S. production of natural gas liquids, such as propane and butane, has already grown by one million barrels per day and should grow by another million soon.

What is unfolding in reaction is nothing less than a paradigm shift in thinking about hydrocarbons. A decade ago, there was a near-global consensus that U.S. (and, for that matter, non-OPEC) production was in inexorable decline. Today, most serious analysts are confident that it will continue to grow. The growth is occurring, to boot, at a time when U.S. oil consumption is falling. (Forget peak oil production; given a combination of efficiency gains, environmental concerns, and substitution by natural gas, what is foreseeable is peak oil demand.) And to cap things off, the costs of finding and producing oil and gas in shale and tight rock formations are steadily going down and will drop even more in the years to come.”

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/141202/edward-l-morse/welcome-to-the-revolution

Viator on April 24, 2014 at 8:09 AM

He really should not talk so much. He shows classic idiocy.

TerryW on April 24, 2014 at 8:26 AM

Hayes IS an idiot-which is why he stole this argument/analogy from a much more thoughtful article in The Nation. The strategy they come up with pricing carbon or more renewals are just more pie in the sky utopianism. There is absolutely no way enviros will convince China, India and the rest of the developing world to forgo fossil fuels. Putin will NEVER willingly give up the power oil and gas provide him and having been to Saudi Arabia and seen how they trash their country good luck convincing them to pass on oil profits.

dgolfnut on April 24, 2014 at 8:28 AM

Being an idiot is a job requirement at MSNCB.

LL

Lady Logician on April 24, 2014 at 8:42 AM

Ugh – more coffee….

Being an idiot is a job requirement at MSNBC.

LL

Lady Logician on April 24, 2014 at 8:43 AM

Obama will burn more than 35,000 gallons of fuel on Earth Day, emitting 375 TONS of carbon dioxide

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2014 at 6:57 PM

That doesn’t even make sense. 35,000 gallons of jet fuel is only 200,000 pounds. That would be 100 tons. So, he’s emitting almost 4 times the carbon as the weight of the original fuel? *shaking my head*

GWB on April 24, 2014 at 9:08 AM

so. what i want to know: What is the “correct” temperature of the Earth?

please show all your work, and make no unnecessary assumptions.

WaldoTJ on April 24, 2014 at 11:10 AM

So, he’s emitting almost 4 times the carbon as the weight of the original fuel? *shaking my head*

GWB on April 24, 2014 at 9:08 AM

you have to consider the amount (weight) of carbon in the fuel … then the combined weight of CO2 (carbon bonded to oxygen)

for gasoline, it’s roughly 20 pounds of CO2 per gallon of gasoline (which weighs 6 pounds) burned. jet-A might be different (or is it kerosene? i forget), but not by any large factor.

WaldoTJ on April 24, 2014 at 11:19 AM

for gasoline, it’s roughly 20 pounds of CO2 per gallon of gasoline (which weighs 6 pounds) burned. jet-A might be different (or is it kerosene? i forget), but not by any large factor.

WaldoTJ on April 24, 2014 at 11:19 AM

Jet fuel is approximately 6.5#/gallon. But it still doesn’t answer how you get 20 pounds of CO2 per 6.5 gallons of fuel. I get that Oxygen is actually elementally ‘heavier’ than carbon. But CO2 weighing 3-4 times as much as the fuel that goes in is pretty astounding. It doesn’t pass the smell test.

GWB on April 24, 2014 at 11:42 AM

When I hear a ‘Anthropogenic Caused Global Warming’ advocate warming up their argument and IF I decide to enter the fray I start with asking them the following:
‘Do you know what the Solar Constant is?’
If they don’t have clue what I’ve just asked them I halt the exchange immediately as it is proof that they don’t know diddlysquat about the subject of their faith.

Missilengr on April 24, 2014 at 11:55 AM

Herewith, a couple of quotes to compare, for perspective:

“Perhaps some of the Puritanic fathers may have gone too far, and have given too great a prominence to the terrors of the Lord in their ministry: but the age in which we live has sought to forget those terrors altogether, and if we dare to tell men that God will punish them for their sins, it is charged upon us that want to bully them into religion, and if we faithfully and honestly tell our hearers that sin must bring after it certain destruction, it is said that we are attempting to frighten them into goodness. Now we care not what men mockingly impute to us; we feel it our duty, when men sin, to tell them they shall be punished, and so long as the world will not give up its sin we feel we must not cease our warnings.”–Charles Spurgeon

“The issue of climate change is one that we ignore at our own peril. There may still be disputes about exactly how much we’re contributing to the warming of the earth’s atmosphere and how much is naturally occurring, but what we can be scientifically certain of is that our continued use of fossil fuels is pushing us to a point of no return. And unless we free ourselves from a dependence on these fossil fuels and chart a new course on energy in this country, we are condemning future generations to global catastrophe.”–Barack Obama

I leave the analysis to the rest of you.

Archangel Nation on April 24, 2014 at 2:17 PM