Rick Perry challenges Andrew Cuomo to a debate

posted at 5:21 pm on April 22, 2014 by Erika Johnsen

Texas Gov. Rick Perry has caught a lot of flak for his outspoken, out-and-about campaign to promote his state’s business-friendly tax and regulatory climate and convince companies from other (and usually bluer) states to move to Texas, particularly from California Gov. Jerry Brown (who so eloquently dismissed his efforts as “barely a fart“) — but it evidently can’t be that ridiculous of a strategy, because it looks like other governors are seeking to emulate his idea. I literally laughed out loud when I saw an ad promoting New York‘s ostensibly pro-business credentials on television this past weekend; true that Gov. Andrew Cuomo recently passed some corporate tax reform that included bringing the rate down from 7.1 to 6.5 percent, but that isn’t nearly enough to put New York into what I’d call the “attractive business destination” category. Taking the changes into account, the Tax Foundation moved New York from its spot as dead last in their overall business-tax climate ranking to merely third to last, just above California and New Jersey.

It’s no secret that Perry has been undergoing his pro-business campaign with the dual purposes of both improving Texas’s already relatively stellar job-growth performance as well as raising his national profile in case he decides to run for president again; he hit his federalism-centric speech out of the park at CPAC, so why not take this opportunity to bring the issue up again?

Now, in a new ad, he sets his sights on New York, but this time he’s also inviting the state’s governor, Andrew Cuomo (D), to a debate.

“A debate between the governors of two of the largest states in the country on policy issues such as taxes, government spending, education, regulations and legal reform would be beneficial to our states and our country as a whole,” Perry said in statement Tuesday. He offered a similar invitation during a morning radio interview on Albany’s Talk 1300 AM. Perry is in New York through Thursday meeting with business leaders and touting Texas’s job creation policies. …

In the new ad airing in New York — by Americans for Economic Freedom, a free-market group championing conservative policies — Perry chastises the Empire State for its high taxes and then says: “If you’re tired of New York, there is an option: Texas.”

I might also mention that Gov. Cuomo has yet to do anything about the standing fracking ban that is preventing his state from seeing some of the economic gains Texas is currently enjoying. Ahem.

Update: Not happening, apparently (although one could reasonably wonder why Cuomo would refuse if he has so little regard for Perry’s debating skills, no?).

CNN reached out to Cuomo’s office for a response.

Danny Kanner, communications director for the Democratic Governors Association, mocked Perry’s invite by referencing the governor’s disastrous debate performance from 2011, in which he forgot the third of three federal agencies he would cut.

“A little free advice for Rick Perry: the fewer debates with anyone, the better. Oops!” he said in an email, linking to a clip of the moment when Perry struggled to remember the agency’s name.


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He better wear his glasses.

Schadenfreude on April 22, 2014 at 5:30 PM

particularly from California Gov. Jerry Brown (who so eloquently dismissed his efforts as “barely a fart“

Coming out of Brown’s a$$. Jackwagon is an idiot if he doesn’t think business is moving out of Kalifornia to Texas. I might be small potatoes, but that’s exactly what I did three years ago when that sad excuse for a leader was elected governer for the third time.

NOMOBO on April 22, 2014 at 5:31 PM

Frack ‘im hard, Gov. Perry. He deserves it.

Rix on April 22, 2014 at 5:31 PM

I love it. I saw the same pro-NY ad and wondered what sorts of photos they must have of the CEO in the ad to have gotten him to move production to NY *and brag about it*.

SoRight on April 22, 2014 at 5:32 PM

Oh, and did I say that Brown is a complete a$$wipe?

NOMOBO on April 22, 2014 at 5:32 PM

Gotta love the Texas guv.

Jindal/Perry 2016!

itsnotaboutme on April 22, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Perry might want to explains this….

PRO-AMNESTY ZUCKERBERG ALLY ADVISING RICK PERRY AHEAD OF POTENTIAL 2016 RUN

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/21/Pro-Amnesty-Zuckerberg-Ally-Advising-Rick-Perry-Ahead-of-Potential-2016-Run

idesign on April 22, 2014 at 5:37 PM

That NY ad is pretty misleading as well as very comical. Turns out you have to build your business in a SUNY campus area and employ students and others associated with the school. Then only certain businesses will qualify. So much for the entreprenurial spirit, eh Mr. Cuomo.

NOMOBO on April 22, 2014 at 5:37 PM

The only problem with that is the fact that the economic refugees will continue to vote as they did in New York, even though that’s what caused their economic problems. They are that stupid.

DFCtomm on April 22, 2014 at 5:38 PM

Guts – and brains – well done Gov. Perry

jake-the-goose on April 22, 2014 at 5:39 PM

Perry might want to explains this….

PRO-AMNESTY ZUCKERBERG ALLY ADVISING RICK PERRY AHEAD OF POTENTIAL 2016 RUN

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/21/Pro-Amnesty-Zuckerberg-Ally-Advising-Rick-Perry-Ahead-of-Potential-2016-Run

idesign on April 22, 2014 at 5:37 PM

Mr. design, you are picking at straws. Perry is a real life Conservative, dedicated to the 10th Amendment. Quit trying to pick his nose pimples or you might end up with Jeb Bush.

NOMOBO on April 22, 2014 at 5:40 PM

idesign on April 22, 2014 at 5:37 PM

Hey-I’ve said that I’d vote for Sarah for President. She’s in my top 3…now lay off my first choice.
Rick Perry is a solid conservative. A gringo Rubio he’s not-so STOP IT.
Perry/Pence 2016!
Greg Abbott for Texas gov 2014!
Let’s roll!

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Mr. design, you are picking at straws. Perry is a real life Conservative, dedicated to the 10th Amendment. Quit trying to pick his nose pimples or you might end up with Jeb Bush.

NOMOBO on April 22, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Here are some more straws I picked..:)

Probably wouldn’t have won his primary had Sarah Palin not backed him 2010.
The fact that he turned around a year later after getting elected to his third term to run for president means that he has poor judgement and is overly narcissistic.
Crony Capitalist –Accepted huge donations from the pharmaceutical company that issued the HPV vaccine he mandated on teenage girls.
Campaigned for Al Gore in ’88
Praised Hilary Clinton for HilaryCare in a letter to her
Endorsed David Dewhurst over Ted Cruz
Endorsed David Dewhurst over Dan Patrick
Endorsed John Cornyn in the primary (killing the chances of any tea party candidate to challenge him)
Endorsed Mitch McConnell over Matt Bevin
Gave In-State tuition to illegal immigrants (out of state citizens pay more than illegals)
property taxes have gone up every year

idesign on April 22, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Perry had better be careful Remember, the Democrats believe, “It’s not who votes that counts, it’s who counts the votes.” Also, when it comes to debates, “It’s not who you debate that counts it’s who the moderator is.” He could get Candy Crowley’d really easy.

bflat879 on April 22, 2014 at 5:53 PM

idesign on April 22, 2014 at 5:49 PM

it’s not 2012 anymore.
STAND DOWN!

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 5:55 PM

Cuomo is not the best choice. Cuomo has talked about how high taxes hurt and has some at least a little bit about it. He’s a dem but a little more reasonable. Jerry Brown or Mark Dayton would be better choices.

IR-MN on April 22, 2014 at 5:56 PM

The three things that I like most about Perry are: 1) His debating skill, and uh, well, I er…

Chickyraptor on April 22, 2014 at 6:01 PM

it’s not 2012 anymore.
STAND DOWN!

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 5:55 PM

Sorry twerp, this is 2014.

Please explain?

Endorsed Mitch McConnell over Matt Bevin

idesign on April 22, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Gig Em’

God Bless Texas

workingclass artist on April 22, 2014 at 6:02 PM

When Cuomo praises Perry’s immigration stance of letting Mexico handle the illegal alien problem, it’ll torpedo his chances. Well, not at HA, but conservatives might be surprised.

Dongemaharu on April 22, 2014 at 6:05 PM

Cuomo won’t show up.

Key West Reader on April 22, 2014 at 6:06 PM

idesign on April 22, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Probably wouldn’t have won his primary had Sarah Palin not backed him 2010

Please, I don’t think you are qualified to make that statement. Shows what a cliff you are willing to go out on to make your weak tea

The fact that he turned around a year later after getting elected to his third term to run for president means that he has poor judgement and is overly narcissistic.

Are you serious? Now you’re a psychologist and Perry insider to have this knowledge.

Endorsed David Dewhurst over Ted Cruz
Endorsed David Dewhurst over Dan Patrick

For god’s sake, Dewhirst has been his Lt. Governor for quite a while. If he didn’t endorse him you would call him a back stabber.

Gave In-State tuition to illegal immigrants (out of state citizens pay more than illegals)
property taxes have gone up every year

True to his word, Perry is a defender of State’s rights. That includes the treatment of illegal aliens. And if you think that property taxes went up as a result, then I doubt you live in Texas.

Campaigned for Al Gore in ’88
Praised Hilary Clinton for HilaryCare in a letter to her

Yeah, he used to be a Dimocrat. Maybe we should shoot him. Kinda reminds me that Reagan started out as a Dimocrat.

Endorsed John Cornyn in the primary (killing the chances of any tea party candidate to challenge him)
Endorsed Mitch McConnell over Matt Bevin

Cornyn was untouchable and also a Perry supporter. Mitch McConnell has a 98% Conservative Union rating, guess that makes him unendorseable by you.

Crony Capitalist –Accepted huge donations from the pharmaceutical company that issued the HPV vaccine he mandated on teenage girls.

Aside from the fact that Perry felt very strongly about the HPV vaccine, he apologized quite profusely for foisting it upon the state. Maybe it’s just very difficult to be a strong leader for so long without ever making a mistake. Again, I think Reagan made a few mistakes.

Now, if you have any more weak tea, please try again.

Perry: Strong Governor and Executive, Real Conservative, Strong Defender of the 10th Amendment. What more could you want?

NOMOBO on April 22, 2014 at 6:11 PM

idesign on April 22, 2014 at 6:01 PM

So?
Sarah endorsed McCain.

Nobody’s perfect.
We’ve been in Texas 3 years now. He’s the real deal.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 6:12 PM

When Cuomo praises Perry’s immigration stance of letting Mexico handle the illegal alien problem, it’ll torpedo his chances. Well, not at HA, but conservatives might be surprised.

Dongemaharu on April 22, 2014 at 6:05 PM

Ummm….never heard Gov. Perry say that.

Last I heard Perry said our border security might have to extend to the Guatemalan Border and he reiterated again a New Monroe Doctrine for the Northern Hemisphere.

workingclass artist on April 22, 2014 at 6:13 PM

NOMOBO on April 22, 2014 at 6:11 PM

Idesign is going through one of her ‘attack Perry’ spells.
It’ll pass.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 6:13 PM

Now, if you have any more weak tea, please try again.

NOMOBO on April 22, 2014 at 6:11 PM

Sorry but this still bothers me a lot…

PRO-AMNESTY ZUCKERBERG ALLY ADVISING RICK PERRY AHEAD OF POTENTIAL 2016 RUN

Rather Bush like if you ask me.

idesign on April 22, 2014 at 6:18 PM

““I’d be more than happy to sit down and have a thoughtful conversation, a debate with Gov. Cuomo over the issues that face us as a state and talk about the economic policies and compare New York to Texas,” said Mr. Perry, speaking on New York Post columnist Fred Dicker’s Live from the State Capitol radio show. “I think that would be not only interesting and fun, but a thoughtful way for us as a country to have a discussion between two of the major states in America, talking about which one of these policies are actually better for our people.”

Mr. Cuomo has made a point of emphasizing tax cuts and job growth as he runs for re-election, but Mr. Perry quickly brushed aside those efforts. Asked about an ad campaign Mr. Cuomo has been running advertising the state’s new tax-free zones to lure new businesses, Mr. Perry ran through a list of companies that had relocated or expanded into Texas recently, and also pointed to New York’s high net migration rate.

“There’s a real message there: More wealth left the state of New York and California than any other two states in the nation,” said Mr. Perry. “And you have to be honest about this: It’s about tax policy, it’s about regulatory policy, it’s about the legal system, and then it’s about a skilled workforce.”

Still the Republican had some kind–if veiled–words for Mr. Cuomo. He pointed to a Tax Foundation tax burden tally that moved New York up two spots from 50th to 48th place this year.

“I will say, in New York’s credit, they’ve moved in the right direction,” said Mr. Perry. “Of course there was only one direction you could go in New York.”

He was more sincere when it came to the thinking behind Mr. Cuomo’s tax-free initiative and charter schools, which Mr. Cuomo has ruffled many liberal feathers by ardently supporting.

“I’m going to tip my hat to Governor Cuomo,” said Mr. Perry. “Gov. Cuomo understands that to be competitive in the world and prepare these kids in New York City for the jobs of the 21st century, you’ve got to be competitive and have these schools performing at a higher level.”

“He understands that, I think instinctively, that we compete against each other–not just state against state, but the United States against other counties,” he added, “and to be at the top of our game, we’ve got to have a skilled workforce, and that comes from accountable schools.”

It was a different story when it came to Mr. Cuomo’s indecision in the area of hydrofracking, which Mr. Dicker strongly supports. Mr. Perry compared the border between Pennsylvania, which allows fracking, and New York, which doesn’t, to “going between two different countries from a standpoint of economics.”

“It’s like East Berlin and West Berlin used to be during the cold war,” Mr. Dicker claimed.

“I don’t understand why a governor like Gov. Cuomo, who is a smart and thoughtful individual, would allow a small group of radical environmentalists to stop job creation and to stop people’s ability to have a better life for themselves, especially when the science has proven to be safe,” Mr. Perry said.

As for whether he’s planning another run for president after fizzling in 2012, Mr. said any announcements will have to wait until next year.

“We’ll make a decision some time in 2015 about what future political plans we have,” said Mr. Perry, quickly brushing off the possibility of an Andrew Cuomo-Rick Perry face-off if Hillary Clinton doesn’t run in 2016.

“I don’t know about that. We certainly have not taken it off the possibility list,” said Mr. Perry, who said he thought the proposed debate was a far more likely outcome.

“Now that’s one that’s more liable to happen,” he said. “Hopefully we can work out a time when we come and do that.”

A spokesman for Mr. Cuomo did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Update (1:04 p.m.): Danny Kanner, a spokesman for the Democratic Governors Association, responded to Mr. Perry’s comments with a link to the then-candidate’s infamous “Oops” debate debacle of 2011.

“A little free advice for Rick Perry: the fewer debates with anyone, the better,” he said in a statement. “Oops!“

Read more at http://observer.com/2014/04/rick-perry-challenges-andrew-cuomo-to-debate-on-jobs/#ixzz2zekGcRBV

workingclass artist on April 22, 2014 at 6:18 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 6:13 PM

Yeah, well it just ticks me off when somebody tries to defend their beliefs with lies and half truths. Makes me think idegign is a liberal progressive.

NOMOBO on April 22, 2014 at 6:18 PM

Sorry but this still bothers me a lot…

PRO-AMNESTY ZUCKERBERG ALLY ADVISING RICK PERRY AHEAD OF POTENTIAL 2016 RUN

Rather Bush like if you ask me.

idesign on April 22, 2014 at 6:18 PM

Yeah, I can’t understand why if you were contemplating a run for President you might want to hear some views from all sides.

F-

NOMOBO on April 22, 2014 at 6:20 PM

Sorry but this still bothers me a lot…

PRO-AMNESTY ZUCKERBERG ALLY ADVISING RICK PERRY AHEAD OF POTENTIAL 2016 RUN

Rather Bush like if you ask me.

idesign on April 22, 2014 at 6:18 PM

Means nothing.

#1 trading for Texas is Mexico.

This is a dog bone…Perry doesn’t need advice from some techie in California.

workingclass artist on April 22, 2014 at 6:22 PM

Rather Bush like if you ask me.

idesign on April 22, 2014 at 6:18 PM

Now that’s just plain ignorant.

Bush Inc. ran Kaye Bailey Hutchinson against Perry…and that worked out well didn’t it?

workingclass artist on April 22, 2014 at 6:24 PM

NOMOBO on April 22, 2014 at 6:18 PM

She’s not.

She’s a conservative-who really is only gung-ho for one candidate.
She’s a cool cat-but on this issue just kind of friendly ignore her.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 6:31 PM

To all my buddies in NY, your state is running radio and TV ads relentlessly in Texas talking about how great the ‘New” business climate is and promising no taxes for 10 years if you move a business up there.

We are reminded of the Pace salsa commercials when we hear them.

DanMan on April 22, 2014 at 6:32 PM

Perry won’t be on the ticket. The GOPe knows how Texas votes.

DanMan on April 22, 2014 at 6:34 PM

Davis doing badly…and that turn Texas Blue campaign aint’ workin’ out too well so…

Texas media is running without a question a narrative being spoon-fed to them by a liberal activist group seeking to derail Gov. Rick Perry’s presumed 2016 presidential ambitions. Not once has the Dallas Morning News, Austin American Statesman or other newspaper disclosed the political leanings of “Texans for Public Justice” in breathless reporting of the charges brought by the organization against Perry. Nor have they noted that the “special prosecutor” appointed to the case and the judge who appointed him are Democrats.

In notoriously Democratic Travis County, a grand jury has been convened to consider allegations that Perry’s line-item veto of the Public Integrity Unit constituted bribery. The unit is managed by the Travis County District Attorney’s office but is funded primarily with state dollars. Last spring, the incumbent District Attorney–Rosemary Lehmberg–was arrested for drunk driving. She subsequently pled guilty and spent 45 days in jail after videos of her arrest and jailhouse booking behavior were made public.

Many elected officials called for her to step down, but she refused. Perry threatened to veto the unit’s funding if she did not, and then later made good on the promise, questioning the legitimacy of the office under her leadership.

The liberal activist group, Texans for Public Justice, which brought the complaint against Perry has a long history of dogging conservatives. A report by Texans for Lawsuit Reform described it as being set-up by “veteran operatives of leftist, out-of-state organizations.”
“TPJ’s main mode of derision is a steady stream of reports targeting campaign contributions,” the report noted.

The group “has used an array of slanted, self-published reports to criticize a select segment of this state’s political spectrum,” according to the report. “The targets of TPJ’s attacks are almost exclusively Republicans, business leaders and organizations, and those interested in the reform of Texas’ civil justice system.”

Recent media reports of TPJ’s attack on Perry continue the trend of ignoring the organization’s liberal background and bias against conservatives. Indeed, no articles on the subject can be found which describe TPJ has anything other than a “non-partisan” “watchdog” group.
Political strategist Ray Sullivan, who once worked for Perry, said the TPJ attack “ridiculously targets one of the Governor’s most clear, constitutionally enshrined and time-tested powers”: the veto pen.

“Every decade or so, Travis County liberals trump up false charges and try to indict a sitting Republican official, garnering many headlines for claims that are ultimately thrown out or overturned in court,” said Sullivan. “Governor Perry’s actions were completely consistent with the Texas Constitution and aimed at preventing an embarrassing and admitted law-breaker from administrating the state’s public integrity unit.”

Many recent articles led with the presumption of guilt by the governor.

A Dallas Morning News article on Sunday by Christy Hoppe led with this:
Gov. Rick Perry, using longevity and sharp elbows, has managed to clear offices and insert loyalists into virtually every important position in state government.
Now, a Travis County grand jury is weighing whether he went too far trying to shove a Democratic elected official from office.

Columnist Ken Herman of the Austin American Statesman wrote on Sunday that “there may be more for Perry to worry about than I first thought. His decision to hire topnotch local lawyer David Botsford to represent him indicates the governor feels likewise.”

The Herman opinion article was titled “Can veto by Perry also be a crime?” and was published the same day his Austin American-Statesman colleagues wrote a front-page piece titled “Probe muddies Perry’s prospects” in reference to his nascent 2016 presidential bid.
Herman wrote that he reached his conclusion after a long conversation with TPJ’s front-man, Craig McDonald. TPJ and McDonald claim Perry would have personally benefited by Lehmberg’s resignation, because he would have been allowed to appoint her successor. They also claim Perry’s actions amounted to “official oppression.”

While being prosecuted in Travis County, the case is being handled, at taxpayer expense, by a Michael McCrum, a San Antonio attorney who was appointed to a “special prosecutor” post by Bexar County Judge Bert Richardson, a Democrat.

So far, media reports about McCrum’s involvement in the case have neglected to mention that in 2010 he was being pushed for political appointment by the Obama Administration. A Democratic donor, McCrum withdrew his name from consideration after his nomination stalled, according to the Texas Tribune. Additionally, state records show McCrum gave a $500 donation to the Democratic judge who appointed him to spear-head the investigation.

Election law expert Trey Trainor, a partner with Beirne, Maynard & Parsons, told Breitbart News that the allegations are nothing more than “a highly organized effort by those on the left to use the grand jury process to smear a successful conservative.”

“The left has been unable to win approval of their policy ideas at the ballot box so they are now seizing upon an opportunity to attack the conservative who has a proven track record of leading, and winning, on ideas they cannot ideologically combat,” said Trainor. “There is clearly nothing criminal about Governor Perry’s actions.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/04/22/Mainstream-Media-Push-Democrats-Anti-Perry-Narrative

workingclass artist on April 22, 2014 at 6:34 PM

To all my buddies in NY, your state is running radio and TV ads relentlessly in Texas talking about how great the ‘New” business climate is and promising no taxes for 10 years if you move a business up there.

We are reminded of the Pace salsa commercials when we hear them.

DanMan on April 22, 2014 at 6:32 PM

HA!

workingclass artist on April 22, 2014 at 6:35 PM

I can understand Cuomo’s refusal – beating Perry wouldn’t be worth anything in Democrat circles, and losing to Perry would be utterly humiliating – but it’s been a long time since New York could objectively justify that sort of arrogance.

Seth Halpern on April 22, 2014 at 6:37 PM

idesign on April 22, 2014 at 5:49 PM

You sound like someone from Iowa I used to know. Say it isn’t so.
Full of half-truths and proud of it.

avagreen on April 22, 2014 at 6:37 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/04/22/Mainstream-Media-Push-Democrats-Anti-Perry-Narrative

workingclass artist
on April 22, 2014 at 6:34 PM

Sounds like they are already afraid of him. (>‿◠)✌

HUZZAH!!

avagreen on April 22, 2014 at 6:41 PM

Perry: Strong Governor and Executive, Real Conservative, Strong Defender of the 10th Amendment. What more could you want?

NOMOBO on April 22, 2014 at 6:11 PM

Somebody more moderate who isn’t being investigated by a grand jury because he threatened to cut funding to an investigative unit near Austin who was investigating one of Perry’s “friends”:

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20140420-grand-jury-considers-perry-case.ece

Yes, the (Democratic, apparently) district attorney who was head of that unit was convicted for drunk driving, but Perry didn’t try to take similar action against two (Republican, apparently) other district attorneys who were also convicted of drunk driving.

And there’s no way I’m voting for Abbott.

jim56 on April 22, 2014 at 6:42 PM

Election law expert Trey Trainor, a partner with Beirne, Maynard & Parsons, told Breitbart News that the allegations are nothing more than “a highly organized effort by those on the left to use the grand jury process to smear a successful conservative.”

“The left has been unable to win approval of their policy ideas at the ballot box so they are now seizing upon an opportunity to attack the conservative who has a proven track record of leading, and winning, on ideas they cannot ideologically combat,” said Trainor. “There is clearly nothing criminal about Governor Perry’s actions.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/04/22/Mainstream-Media-Push-Democrats-Anti-Perry-Narrative

workingclass artist on April 22, 2014 at 6:34 PM

You realize, of course, that Mr. Trainor is a Republican who is highly connected to the Republican Party in Texas and to Perry:

“During that time, Mr. Trainor was appointed by Secretary Roger Williams to serve as the statewide Republican member representing Texas on the Standards Advisory Board to the U.S. Elections Assistance Commission.”

http://www.bmpllp.com/attorneys/trey-trainor

jim56 on April 22, 2014 at 6:47 PM

jim56 on April 22, 2014 at 6:42 PM

The progs in Texas have hated Perry (and Abbott) for years. Whatz neu?

You sound like one. From Dallas.

Frankly, I’d never believe anything written by a newspaper that has endorsed many very expensive government projects such as the Trinity River Project and the proposed Trinity River bridges.

avagreen on April 22, 2014 at 6:53 PM

You sound like someone from Iowa I used to know. Say it isn’t so.
Full of half-truths and proud of it.

avagreen on April 22, 2014 at 6:37 PM

Here is the link. Where is the half-truth?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/21/Pro-Amnesty-Zuckerberg-Ally-Advising-Rick-Perry-Ahead-of-Potential-2016-Run

Jayrae on April 22, 2014 at 6:53 PM

jim56 on April 22, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Go away jimbo.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 6:54 PM

jim56 on April 22, 2014 at 6:42 PM

sounds like a personal problem.
Go Abbott!
Let’s Roll!

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Here is the link. Where is the half-truth?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/21/Pro-Amnesty-Zuckerberg-Ally-Advising-Rick-Perry-Ahead-of-Potential-2016-Run

Jayrae on April 22, 2014 at 6:53 PMidesign on April 22, 2014 at 5:49 PM

I have no idea of what you are talking about.
I was referring to the comment by, if you will notice, which you left out:

idesign on April 22, 2014 at 5:49 PM

avagreen on April 22, 2014 at 7:02 PM

Unless idesign and Jayrae are one and the same person?

avagreen on April 22, 2014 at 7:04 PM

You realize, of course, that….bla…bla…bla…

jim56 on April 22, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Defend this democrat drunkard…

Link to Lehmburg’s arrest videos.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/04/15/Rick-Perry-Veto-Focus-of-Grand-Jury-Investigation

workingclass artist on April 22, 2014 at 7:06 PM

NOMOBO on April 22, 2014 at 5:40 PM

I thought idiotdesign was a girl?

cozmo on April 22, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Yeah baby

gophergirl on April 22, 2014 at 7:13 PM

cozmo on April 22, 2014 at 7:09 PM

She is.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 7:13 PM

NOMOBO on April 22, 2014 at 5:40 PM

I thought idiotdesign was a girl?

cozmo on April 22, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Whatever they are, some of the new group seem to be getting their shorts/panties in a bunch. Misreading, and then commenting in a huff. Like they’ve found a piece of gold.
So much like Politico groupies.

avagreen on April 22, 2014 at 7:14 PM

avagreen on April 22, 2014 at 7:14 PM

idiotdesign ain’t new. She is one of the original Perry hatin’ nutballs who will grasp at any straw no matter how flimsy.

Mostly stays quiet until she gets the dog whistle call that Perry is being discussed.

Except for the times she brings Perry up out of the blue. Those times I think she is lonely and acts out like hagfish.

cozmo on April 22, 2014 at 7:17 PM

Yes, the (Democratic, apparently) district attorney who was head of that unit was convicted for drunk driving, but Perry didn’t try to take similar action against two (Republican, apparently) other district attorneys who were also convicted of drunk driving.

And there’s no way I’m voting for Abbott.

jim56 on April 22, 2014 at 6:42 PM

Lehmberg headed the Public Integrity Unit of Travis County…

Sheeesh!

This is a waste of Taxpayer money.

“Rick Perry is now under criminal investigation. Why? Because he threatened to withhold funding from a public integrity unit run by the D.A. of Travis County. Why did he make that threat? Because she had been arrested for DWI, had been belligerent with police and demanded repeatedly to talk to the sheriff, and refused to resign.

The D.A., Democrat Rosemary Lehmberg, later pled guilty and was sentenced to 45 days in jail. And now Rick Perry has the criminal attorney:

Texas Gov. Rick Perry has hired a high-profile Austin defense lawyer to represent him in an investigation into whether he illegally withheld money from the Travis County District Attorney’s office.

KVUE News and the Austin American-Statesman confirmed Sunday evening the hiring of David L. Botsford.

The hiring comes as a special Travis County grand jury is set to be seated Monday to hear evidence into whether Perry broke state laws concerning bribery, coercion and abuse of authority.

Perry had threatened to withhold the money from Travis County District Attorney Rosemary Lehmberg unless she resigns after her drunken driving arrest in April 2013.

When she refused, Perry in June vetoed a state budget item that would have given a $7.5 million allocation to the Public Integrity Unit in the District Attorney’s Office. The unit investigates ethics violations against public officials.

Commentary on videos by Patterico

Here’s some context. Her arrest:

video at link

See her stumbling around and unable to follow instructions? Her blood alcohol was a .23.

A TV news story about the need to restrain her:

video at link

Here she is being belligerent and repeatedly asking deputies if they have called “Greg” — Travis County Sheriff Greg Hamilton.

video at link

Again, Rick Perry now has a criminal lawyer. Via Breitbart….”

http://patterico.com/2014/04/16/rick-perry-under-criminal-investigation-for-demanding-on-pain-of-withholding-funding-resignation-of-d-a-who-drove-under-the-influence-and-was-belligerent-to-police/

workingclass artist on April 22, 2014 at 7:20 PM

I love Perry threads :) It’s like vintage HA

gophergirl on April 22, 2014 at 7:22 PM

Sing Daisy jimbo!

Murphy9 on April 22, 2014 at 7:22 PM

And there’s no way I’m voting for Abbott.

jim56 on April 22, 2014 at 6:42 PM

Then Wendy is the girl for you.

Bless your heart.

cozmo on April 22, 2014 at 7:23 PM

Mostly stays quiet until she gets the dog whistle call that Perry is being discussed.

Except for the times she brings Perry up out of the blue. Those times I think she is lonely and acts out like hagfish.

cozmo on April 22, 2014 at 7:17 PM

Ahhh, sooo.

She must predate me as I’ve only been a member for a few years. There are a few lurkers who nurse grudges, it’s true. Agree: lonely.

avagreen on April 22, 2014 at 7:25 PM

He must have refused to date her. **__** Or, something.

avagreen on April 22, 2014 at 7:26 PM

I love Perry threads :) It’s like vintage HA

gophergirl
on April 22, 2014 at 7:22 PM

I have to agree. There are many informed posters on this type of thread.
And……We get to see some artful and well-informed posters like wca. I never tire of reading his comments.

avagreen on April 22, 2014 at 7:29 PM

Sounds like they are already afraid of him. (>‿◠)✌

HUZZAH!!

avagreen on April 22, 2014 at 6:41 PM

They’re afraid of Texans period….Because conservative governance works.

“All signs indicate that Texas’ economy is strong, and that it will only keep getting stronger. A new report released by Texas Comptroller Susan Combs said, “Job growth, sales tax collections and building permits all signal that the Texas economy continues to outpace the national economy.”
Thanks in part to pro-business policies, low taxes, and predictable regulation, companies have been able to expand and create more jobs for Texans. As a result, citizens in the state have money to spend on not just life’s necessities, but non-essential goods as well.
Sales tax receipts have been strong in the state, and continue to grow. As of March 2014, the receipts were 5.6 percent higher than they were at the same time during 2013. Amazingly, sales tax collections have increased for 48 months in a row.
While retail sales unquestionably play into these figures, the strong numbers are also bolstered by increased corporate spending, particularly in the oil and gas industry.
The healthy new numbers can be considered evidence that Texas’ relatively laissez-faire businesses environment is allowing industries to flourish.
“It really seems to be that the less government intervention there is, the more likely businesses are to grow and the entrepreneurial spirit is to thrive,” Vance Ginn, an economist at the Texas Public Policy Foundation, told Breitbart Texas. “What we’ve seen is that the Texas model of low taxes, modest government spending, and stable regulations provides a business-friendly environment that gives incentives for businesses to move to the state.”
Indeed, businesses are flocking to the Lone Star State at a record rate….”

and this…

“AUSTIN, TEXAS (AP)–The Texas unemployment rate has slipped to 5.5 percent.

The Texas Workforce Commission on Friday announced the March unemployment figure, compared to a 5.7 percent statewide jobless rate in both January and February.
The latest seasonally adjusted unemployment rate for Texas compares to a 6.7 percent nationwide jobless rate during March.

The TWC says Texas employers added 9,100 jobs last month — for a total of 310,000 jobs added over the year.

The Midland area had the lowest jobless rate last month across Texas, at 2.7 percent. TWC figures show the McAllen-Edinburg-Mission area had the state’s highest unemployment rate at 9.4 percent….” – Brietbart Texas article

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/04/19/Texas-Comptroller-Economy-Surging-as-All-Industries-Expand

Liberals are also disappointed

“Most liberals from California would rather die than come here,” Chuck DeVore, Vice President of Policy at the Texas Public Policy Foundation told Breitbart Texas. “They perceive Texas as a Bible belt, gun toting, cowboy hat-wearing state. They think, ‘If you can’t surf, why would you go there?’”

DeVore should know–he used to live in California and served as a member of the California State Assembly from 2004 to 2010. He eventually made the move to Texas due to the lower living costs and higher quality of life.

DeVore thinks that the majority of Texas transplants are similar to him: Conservatives feeling suffocated by big cities’ overwhelmingly liberal choke-hold. He said, “Migration is largely of taxpaying entrepreneurs and hardworking people who want to escape.”

He pointed to a joint study by the University of Texas and Texas Tribune which confirmed that

“California has been losing people in droves. The plurality of those migrants have moved to Texas, as many as 70,000 in 2011 and 60,000 in 2012.” However, after polling a significant portion of the fresh transplants, the study found that 57 percent of them are self-proclaimed conservatives and only 27 percent are liberal.

“So while some may want to perceive the wave of Californians coming to Texas as part of the broader demographic trends that might eventually turn Texas purple, and then blue, the data collected to date suggest that Perry’s pitch appears to be hitting a chord with Californians who wear cowboy boots instead of Birkenstocks,” the Texas Tribune concluded.

“I can certainly appreciate the fear of native Texans that transplants from liberal cities are going to turn Texas blue,” DeVore said. “But the data doesn’t support this fear…Part of this has to do with people sorting themselves out. If you’re a liberal for whom gun control and the right to same-sex marriage is important, you’re not very likely to move to Texas.”

Any shift towards liberalism in Texas cities should not be automatically attributed to the ideology of newcomers to the state, DeVore said. Observable changes may be most influenced by federal policies.

“What’s going on in the urban centers? You have federal policies that make people dependent on government,” DeVore said.

This factor is not unique to Texas–such federal policies have an effect on all major U.S. cities.
DeVore said Texans who wish to keep their state economically free should focus on education reform, not migration.

“The biggest defense that Texas can erect against a red-to-blue transition is to provide for educational choice so that students can succeed,” he said. “Texas can lead on the school choice issue. Whether or not Texas thrives in the future or sees a gradual decline is based largely on the educational opportunities we give children from all parts of the state–not by throwing money at the already existing system but by full reform…how well Texas children are educated matters significantly, from a demographic standpoint.”

With regard to the 27 percent of transplants from California who are liberal, DeVore said, “I have confidence that the Texas model will win over converts…Texas is the embodiment of what America should be, as far as limited government and maximum freedom goes.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/04/18/Texas-More-Red-from-Blue-State-Exodus

workingclass artist on April 22, 2014 at 7:34 PM

And there’s no way I’m voting for Abbott.

jim56 on April 22, 2014 at 6:42 PM

Then Wendy is the girl for you.

Bless your heart.

cozmo on April 22, 2014 at 7:23 PM

*snicker*

workingclass artist on April 22, 2014 at 7:36 PM

True to his word, Perry is a defender of State’s rights. That includes the treatment of illegal aliens.

Wait…what, lol? That’s the same stupid argument some Mitt supporters used for justifying Romneycare. State’s rights means you have the power to pass bad legislation, not an obligation to do it, lol.

xblade on April 22, 2014 at 7:50 PM

Cattle ranchers out west could use a strong Amendment X defender pretty soon. All of us could use a strong defender of Amendment X to dismantle the authoritarian ethos of this particular executive administration.

anuts on April 22, 2014 at 7:50 PM

“Most liberals from California would rather die than come here,” Chuck DeVore, Vice President of Policy at the Texas Public Policy Foundation told Breitbart Texas. “They perceive Texas as a Bible belt, gun toting, cowboy hat-wearing state. They think, ‘If you can’t surf, why would you go there?’”…

workingclass artist on April 22, 2014 at 7:34 PM

I also suspect that ‘most Texans would rather Californians die than move to Texas’.

slickwillie2001 on April 22, 2014 at 8:12 PM

I also suspect that ‘most Texans would rather Californians die than move to Texas’.

slickwillie2001 on April 22, 2014 at 8:12 PM

*cough* *cough*
snorted coca-cola though my nose…..

…..you read my mind.

avagreen on April 22, 2014 at 8:18 PM

…just make sure Rick doesn’t take any pain medicine for a month!……PLEASE!

KOOLAID2 on April 22, 2014 at 8:32 PM

With regard to the 27 percent of transplants from California who are liberal, DeVore said, “I have confidence that the Texas model will win over converts…Texas is the embodiment of what America should be, as far as limited government and maximum freedom goes.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/04/18/Texas-More-Red-from-Blue-State-Exodus

workingclass artist on April 22, 2014 at 7:34 PM

What about the approximately 40% of transplants who are moderate? It’s not just the liberals Texas needs to win over.

jim56 on April 22, 2014 at 8:39 PM

jim56 on April 22, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Hey sweetie, you want them to vote with you for Wendy.

Why are you so worried about what righty’s want?

cozmo on April 22, 2014 at 8:49 PM

jim56 on April 22, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Hey sweetie, you want them to vote with you for Wendy.

Why are you so worried about what righty’s want?

cozmo on April 22, 2014 at 8:49 PM

Bless your heart for being so concerned about me.

jim56 on April 22, 2014 at 8:56 PM

jim56 on April 22, 2014 at 8:56 PM

I don’t give a crap about you.

You are just a lonely troll willing to do anything for the attention that is lacking in your pathetic life.

You are the equivalent of a cat toy for humans while commercials are on.

cozmo on April 22, 2014 at 9:00 PM

site:hotair.com jimbo3 perry

All that concern conserved across nicks.

Murphy9 on April 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM

This is a good move by Perry..It definitely could benefit Perry if he decides to run..:)

Dire Straits on April 22, 2014 at 9:13 PM

I didn’t start out liking Perry back when he was GWB’s Lt Guv. But he has slowly matured and I am now a Perry fan.

I bet he’s having a good laugh at Cuomo’s expense.

44Magnum on April 22, 2014 at 10:10 PM