Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on April 22, 2014 by Allahpundit

It has been at least 20 years since Republicans have argued this angrily about foreign policy. Voters don’t much care about this debate, though, and probably won’t until events overseas turn more menacing. In the meantime, Republicans vying for the 2016 presidential nomination are pushing the party toward one of two extremes on the issue — neither of which will do the party or the country much good…

Paul portrays himself as a “realist” as well as a Reaganite: someone who asks hard questions before putting American credibility, money and troops on the line. It’s an attractive self-presentation, because policy makers should ask those questions: Are our interests at stake abroad? Is there any feasible way to promote them? Would the effort have an acceptable cost?

You can be skeptical about foreign interventions — from Iran to Syria to Ukraine — without having a conspiratorial mindset about them. Paul sometimes makes it a package deal, as in his repeated suggestions that former Vice President Dick Cheney pushed the Iraq war because of his ties to Halliburton Co. — a ridiculous charge that even Cheney’s bitter Democratic opponents have had too much sense to make.

And you can set a high bar for taking action against an aggressive and illiberal foreign regime without making excuses for it. Paul doesn’t always observe that distinction.

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The knives are out for conservatives who dare question unlimited involvement in foreign wars.

Foreign policy, the interventionist critics claim, has no place for nuance or realism. You are either for us or against us. No middle ground is acceptable. The Wilsonian ideologues must have democracy worldwide now and damn all obstacles to that utopia. I say sharpen your knives, because the battle once begun will not end easily…

With regard to the Iraq War, [William F.] Buckley came to believe not only that it was a mistake but that it was not a “conservative” approach to foreign policy. In fact, in discussing foreign policy Buckley sounded quite the realist…

Reagan himself was sometimes castigated for not intervening around the world enough. According to Peter Beinart, Norman Podhoretz, one of the founding neoconservatives, wrote that “in the use of military power, Mr. Reagan was much more restrained” than his more hawkish fans had hoped.

So as today’s young aspiring Buckleyites sharpen their knives to carve up conservatives who propose a more realist and nuanced approach to foreign policy, they should realize they’re also pointing daggers at some of their own.

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None of Paul’s critics at NRO have said anything like what Paul claims about nuance or realism, or called for unlimited involvement in foreign wars. And criticism of Paul — and his excuse-making for the Russian and Syrian regimes – does not amount to criticism of realism. Nor does William F. Buckley Jr.’s retrospective opposition to the Iraq war amount to Senator Paul’s view that Halliburton’s influence over Dick Cheney had something to do with its start.

I’m glad Senator Paul is there to push back against, for example, the ill-considered proposal to strike at Syria last year. But he’d be a more effective advocate for realism if he showed an ability to make obvious distinctions.

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Again and again, he characterizes his opponents as flat-out warmongers, such as those “within the Christian community [who] are such great defenders of the promised land and the chosen people that they think war is always the answer, maybe even preemptive war.” Choices are always binary in his world — one must either follow his way of diplomacy or, as in his Heritage speech, take the position that “war is the only option.” In a recent speech at the Center for the National Interest, he built the same militaristic straw man. Those who favor bigger defense forces and more robust postures, he said, have the attitude that “diplomacy is distrusted and war is, if not the first choice, the preferred option.”

The worst warmongers in Paul World are always the nefarious “neocons,” sometimes directly associated with Israel, who are blamed for such a wide assortment of ills and bad motives that an uninformed listener might think they are more dangerous to world peace than the Soviets ever were.

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How many times has Obama accused his critics of wanting to force “false choices” between two absurd, all-or-nothing extremes, when virtually nobody has seriously suggested that those are the only choices? This is exactly what Paul is doing. So when Rich Lowry asserts that “Paul’s belief that the Iraq War may have been about padding a corporate bottom line echoes charges of ‘war profiteering’ that have been a staple of the Left,” Paul rather nastily (and wrongly) writes that “today’s young aspiring Buckleyites sharpen their knives to carve up conservatives who propose a more realist and nuanced approach to foreign policy.” But is it more “nuanced” and “realist” to accuse Dick Cheney of choosing to send thousands to their deaths because of his search for lucre, or is it instead more realist to question such a vicious conspiracy theory?…

Rand Paul is more intelligent than this. He must know he is vastly misrepresenting his critics and vastly oversimplifying complex foreign-policy questions. If he continues to do so, his statements will no longer be able to be considered rhetorical sloppiness, but instead will justly be labeled demagoguery.

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The Tarrance Group recently conducted a survey on behalf of Concerned Veterans for America that was released on April 18. It just so happens that “nearly three-quarters of veterans and members of the military (73%) agree with former member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen’s statement that our nation’s debt is ‘the greatest threat to our National Security.’”

That is to say: Admiral Mike Mullen and 73 percent of veterans, Guard/Reserve, and active-duty military surveyed share Rand Paul’s “naïve and otherworldly” claim…

Judging by this survey, Rand Paul is simply echoing the concerns of a former Joint Chief, and the vast majority of military men and women surveyed by a noted veterans advocacy organization. That’s not bad company to keep.

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The default position of the GOP is still toward strength, and the party will instinctively recoil from the distorted view of America implicit in some of Paul’s more impolitic statements.

If we launched the Iraq War for corporate profits, we have a poisonously corrupt government that is a threat to world peace. If we caused Japan to react angrily with ill-considered sanctions prior to Pearl Harbor, as Paul said in 2012, perhaps we were reaping what we sowed in what is usually regarded as one of the most notorious sneak attacks of all time. If we are guilty of tweaking Russia while it secures a traditional sphere of influence, as Paul said when the Crimea crisis first broke out, it’s no wonder that Vladimir Putin lashes out…

Paul likes to calls his foreign policy “realism,” but his record on Russia suggests the label is inapt. Last year, he thought what was wrong with President Barack Obama’s Syria policy was that we weren’t engaging the Russians enough. Earlier this year, he held out the Syria chemical-weapons deal — a humiliation for the United States that secured Bashar Assad in power — as a model for future diplomacy. He thought the Russians were a partner for peace, right on the cusp of their launching a war.

You don’t have to be a war profiteer to consider this dewy-eyed foolishness. Barack Obama’s can’t-we-all-get-along naiveté didn’t hurt him in his primary fight in 2008, but he was running in the other party. Rand Paul is running in a party that, while chastened on foreign policy, still has a hawkish reflex — and not because it is beholden to Halliburton.

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Paul says he’s a “non-interventionist,” and by saying so tries to wrap himself in the image of Ronald Reagan. Let’s be clear: every conservative is a non-interventionist. But, like Ronald Reagan we believe that some acts of aggression are so severe they cannot be tolerated, and that some adversaries cannot be deterred, so they must be defeated at the time and place most advantageous to us…

Paul claims his policy is “nuanced,” and that such sophistication in strategy is what we have lacked before his deft-handed approach came along. But Paul is stumbling along a path we’ve trod before. He’s probably unaware of it, but the political world is round and when you go far enough to the right, you end up on the left. Rand Paul’s foreign policy would have the same effect as Obama’s because they are different only in names and labels.

Not even the Republicans are dumb enough to nominate Rand Paul, but a Paul candidacy — like the last one — will have only negative effects. The media will try to damage the whole field of candidates by associating them with Paul’s civil rights horrors. And Paul will serve as the media’s foil on foreign policy. Reagan mastered “strategic ambiguity” because he knew that it meant keeping the adversary off-balance. To Rand Paul, strategic ambiguity means confusing our allies and our military, keeping them off-balance while trying to understand when he means to be are serious and when he does not. He’s just a chip off the old blockhead.

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Mr. Paul’s conclusion: “9/11 became an excuse for a war they already wanted in Iraq.”

Cui bono—to whose benefit? It’s the signature question of every conspiracy theorist with an unhinged mind. C heney. Halliburton. Big Oil. The military-industrial complex. Neocons. 9/11. Soldiers electrocuted in the shower. It all makes perfect sense, doesn’t it?

If Mr. Paul wants to accuse the former vice president of engineering a war in Iraq so he could shovel some profits over to his past employer, he should come out and say so explicitly. Ideally at the next Heritage Action powwow. Let’s not mince words. This man wants to be the Republican nominee for president.

And so he should be. Because maybe what the GOP needs is another humbling landslide defeat. When moderation on a subject like immigration is ideologically disqualifying, but bark-at-the-moon lunacy about Halliburton is not, then the party has worse problems than merely its choice of nominee.

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frank, frank, frank – Hotlips Lanceman

RickB on April 22, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Frank went all manly.

Murphy9 on April 22, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Without the rash of course. And without actually leaving like he “threatened.”

Murphy9 on April 22, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Bishop!

(We still do that here, don’t we?)

Alien on April 22, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Greetings!
And yes, Alien, we do.

Doc Holliday on April 22, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Heard he was gone. Heard he was back. Not sure what’s up today.

Alien on April 22, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Down video is down.

PS: make goods and services, not war. ;p

abobo on April 22, 2014 at 10:49 PM

I’d rather have a Cruz QOTD.

jazzuscounty on April 22, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Oh, he’s around….

Doc Holliday on April 22, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Hey, you know what pisses me off? Just about everything these days.

Alien on April 22, 2014 at 10:51 PM

Paul sometimes makes it a package deal, as in his repeated suggestions that former Vice President Dick Cheney pushed the Iraq war because of his ties to Halliburton Co. — a ridiculous charge that even Cheney’s bitter Democratic opponents have had too much sense to make.

Heck yeah, what a totally absurd suggestion! Everybody knows that there isn’t even a smidgen of cronyism in Washington DC. /

FloatingRock on April 22, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Frank went all manly.

Murphy9 on April 22, 2014 at 10:45 PM

…yep!…frank’s a dick!

KOOLAID2 on April 22, 2014 at 10:56 PM

Alien on April 22, 2014 at 10:48 PM

frank never follows through on a promise/threat–at least here…

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 10:56 PM

Do you know why some men are preoccupied with sex? A lack of occupation with sex.

Alien on April 22, 2014 at 10:56 PM

Evening All!!!

CoffeeLover on April 22, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Just caught Heaven is For Real. Very good film.

Check out this 8-year-old’s depiction of Yeshua after visiting heaven, it’s a masterpiece.

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Steve Miller Band – Rock’N’ Me

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Oh yeah, a classic! Greetings Newtie!

Doc Holliday on April 22, 2014 at 10:58 PM

I hate Obamacare! Next week(May 1) we lose our terrific health insurance provider and get put into a new provider that has a similar program(don’t know if my current doctor is in it)…until next May.
At THAT point all the employees in my husband’s company will be forced into a high deductible plan.
NOTHING will be covered until we hit that deductible.
Because of my asthma-I need to see my pcp on a pretty regular basis. Asthma meds aren’t cheap-and out of pocket they’re VERY high. My husband’s meds aren’t cheap either.
Sure-we’ll have an HSA-but…
Serious-I really HATE that man.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Can anyone name a single conservative thing that Dick Cheney ever did? Neither can I.

bw222 on April 22, 2014 at 10:58 PM

…yep!…frank’s a dick!

KOOLAID2 on April 22, 2014 at 10:56 PM

Understatement!

bazil9 on April 22, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Do you know why some men are preoccupied with sex? A lack of occupation with sex.

Alien on April 22, 2014 at 10:56 PM

That was a great line on MASH wasn’t it?

crankyoldlady on April 22, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Is it going to be one of those kind of threads?

WE ARE BROKE… I’m with those that say we can’t fight wars right now anyway…because we’re broke. The rest is a circular squad that everyone in DC enjoys while we continue to eat our own.

PaperGirl on April 22, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Doc Holliday on April 22, 2014 at 10:58 PM

*smoooooch!*

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Vice President Dick Cheney pushed the Iraq war because of his ties to Halliburton Co. — a ridiculous charge that even Cheney’s bitter Democratic opponents have had too much sense to make.

Over 4,500 American troops died in Iraq, thousands of others lost limbs and over a trillion dollars that we don’t have was thrown down a rat hole, and for what? Two-thirds of Christians were ethnically cleansed. Shiite ruled Iraq is now an Iranian ally. Iraq has a U.S. sponsored Islamic/Shariah constitution. And 50 year old men will soon be able to “marry” and legal rape 9 year old girls.

And Halliburton did make a lot of money off it all, regardless of whether Cheney got any of it or not.

VorDaj on April 22, 2014 at 10:59 PM

My browser is all screwed up. Won’t reload the page. Now that pisses me off, too. Well, let’s see if I can fix it … dammit.

Alien on April 22, 2014 at 10:59 PM

KOOLAID2 on April 22, 2014 at 10:56 PM

:P

Murphy9 on April 22, 2014 at 10:59 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Welcome to the effed up mess.
Sounds like an HDHP.

bazil9 on April 22, 2014 at 11:00 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 10:58 PM

So sorry, ALT. There will be many more stories like yours this year.

See if your doc can give you some scripts for some extra inhalers before the insurance changes…just a thought. Afraid I don’t have any good answers…

But I agree with your sentiments…

Doc Holliday on April 22, 2014 at 11:00 PM

I said on the other thread that we don’t really have to put boots on the ground these days to make a difference.. We have planes and drones.

crankyoldlady on April 22, 2014 at 11:01 PM

CoffeeLover on April 22, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Evenin’, CL!

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 11:01 PM

wow, the crew is coming in tonight :)

CoffeeLover on April 22, 2014 at 11:01 PM

I LIKE Dick Cheney.
When GWB tapped him for his VP in 2000, then almost 30 y.o. me and my 56 y.o. mother started dancing around and squealing like little girls.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 11:01 PM

Hi everybody! Hi B9!

KCB on April 22, 2014 at 11:02 PM

I figure I can use bent over saplings as springs to snare rabbits.

Save some ammo.

Some twine and a buck knife.

I’m glad I grew up a redneck.

wolly4321 on April 22, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Alien on April 22, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Clear Cookies and Cache, then log back in, Dear Alien! That usually clears up a lot of bugaboos for me… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 11:03 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 10:58 PM

My husbands niece was just ranting on FB that her local hospital isn’t covered, nor have any of her dr. Visits for severe diabetes. Her takeaway – well at least we have insurance. PEC coverage is good for her, but moot because she always carried ins. Pays more gets less. I’m just waiting to see my prices this fall.

PaperGirl on April 22, 2014 at 11:03 PM

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 10:57 PM

I watched Heaven is for Real on Good Friday- great movie.
Next..God’s not dead.

bazil9 on April 22, 2014 at 11:04 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Hey U…you are supposed to be happy, happy, happy. O said so. The debate is over.

Dumb chit that he is. It’s only just started. My fear is that he’ll destroy our health system beyond recognition.

CoffeeLover on April 22, 2014 at 11:05 PM

I have often told, and will repeat that again. Leaders of Russia, Syria, Egypt, and other assorted hellholes are evil dictators. Unfortunately, the other side is even worse. I understand intervening on the side of good, but spending American money and blood to aid bigger evil against lesser evil just because John McCain gets instant wood off the idea of military invasion… thanks, I’ll pass.

Rix on April 22, 2014 at 11:05 PM

wow, the crew is coming in tonight :)

CoffeeLover on April 22, 2014 at 11:01 PM

Dude, I got some light roasted Papau New Guinea coffee beans today. Ground them in my Porlex mini grinder at 7 clicks, then steeped it in my aeropress with a paper filter in 195F water for ~1min, and topped off the cup with 195F water. Incredible clean cup of coffee.

Murphy9 on April 22, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Doc Holliday on April 22, 2014 at 11:00 PM

We’ve got a year before the HDP goes into effect. Right now, it’s just going to be a provider change.
I’ve got a year to find a replacement for my lyrica, and to get heart attack boy(my husband) to lose 30-40 lbs so that he can drop some of his meds.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Hi everybody! Hi B9!

KCB on April 22, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Hi Doll!

bazil9 on April 22, 2014 at 11:05 PM

The worst warmongers in Paul World are always the nefarious “neocons,” sometimes directly associated with Israel, who are blamed for such a wide assortment of ills and bad motives that an uninformed listener might think they are more dangerous to world peace than the Soviets ever were.

The neocons are unhinged and off their rockers. They’ve been pushing for war in Libya and Syrian on behalf of Al Qaeda in order to stick their fingers in Russia’s eyes and now in the Ukraine; it seems that they are trying to restart the cold war in order to make themselves relevant again. The corporatist/statist, (aka fascist), American media always reports about what is going on in the Ukraine as a Russian provocation and ignore the coup, which is never even mentioned anymore. Western propaganda outlets talk about how Russia is the Hitleresque expansionary power but fail to notice that it’s actually the EU and NATO that has been the expansionary power that Russia appears to be reacting to.

I think the Al Qaeda affiliated neocons who are trying to restart the cold war are despicable scumbags and I encourage conservative hawks to distance themselves from them. All the people who’ve been advocating action in Libya, Syria and other failed foreign policy adventures over the last 20 or so years have been so thoroughly discredited that a new cold war is their only hope, and in order to save themselves they are willing to put the entire country and the world at risk.

FloatingRock on April 22, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Rude Buffoons?…check
loons?…check
Wenches?….check
Trolls?….pending I’m sure…

But where is Omahaconservative?
RATSO!

Doc Holliday on April 22, 2014 at 11:06 PM

PaperGirl on April 22, 2014 at 11:03 PM

True, but health insurance that doesn’t cover your health access is kinda like closing the barn door after the livestock has taken off for parts unknown, never to return, ya know?

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 11:06 PM

CoffeeLover on April 22, 2014 at 11:05 PM

My mother would’ve turned 70 this Friday.
I’d like to see 70 someday.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 11:07 PM

‘Homeland’ to Purchase 25 Million Shotgun Rounds… Drudge headline

CoffeeLover on April 22, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Mako shark caught in Gulf waters could break record

Did y’all hear about this?

11 feet, 805 pounds, gotta be a record.

And he hooked it while surf fishing from a beach. I never caught anything bigger than a 48″ redfish. LOL

Evening all.

NativeTexan on April 22, 2014 at 11:08 PM

My mother would’ve turned 70 this Friday.
I’d like to see 70 someday.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 11:07 PM

I’ve seen it. It’s not that big a deal.

crankyoldlady on April 22, 2014 at 11:08 PM

It’s the signature question of every conspiracy theorist with an unhinged mind. C heney. Halliburton. Big Oil. The military-industrial complex. Neocons.

Accusing ones opponents of being unhinged conspiracy theorists, or of being racists, is the last refuge of the scoundrel. Some scoundrels pick one, some pick the other and some pick both, but in the end they are the same.

VorDaj on April 22, 2014 at 11:08 PM

PaperGirl on April 22, 2014 at 11:03 PM

At least I’m still in fairly good shape.
My husband is obese and is a heart attack waiting to happen.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Murphy9 on April 22, 2014 at 11:05 PM

I am a ===== dudette LOL

CoffeeLover on April 22, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 11:04 PM

Best version of American Pie….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPjjZCO67WI

Barred on April 22, 2014 at 11:10 PM

crankyoldlady on April 22, 2014 at 11:08 PM

My point is that neither of my parents lived long enough to see it.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 11:11 PM

NativeTexan on April 22, 2014 at 11:08 PM

Here’s your link, NT:

http://www.pnj.com/story/news/2014/04/16/shark-caught-in-local-waters/7805801/

No thanks necessary, Darlin’… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 11:11 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Crap…Lyrica is expensive.Have you been on neurontin (gabapentin)? it comes in a generic, I think.

Doc Holliday on April 22, 2014 at 11:11 PM

I am a ===== dudette LOL

CoffeeLover on April 22, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Apologies dudette!

Murphy9 on April 22, 2014 at 11:12 PM

My point is that neither of my parents lived long enough to see it.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 11:11 PM

I get that. I’ll be happy to see 80. Most women in my family lived to about 82 although one was 89.

crankyoldlady on April 22, 2014 at 11:12 PM

One of my hispanic co-workers signed up for barkycare.

Tried to use it and can’t find a Doc. He’s plenty pizzed off.

Said he’ll pay cash, now.

Wait until he finds out he can’t get out of it.

wolly4321 on April 22, 2014 at 11:12 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 11:07 PM

I hear you ALT. I am already trying to get myself into the mindset that as I am at the very end of the baby-boomers, I’ll be lucky if they don’t kill us all off by the time I get there.

CoffeeLover on April 22, 2014 at 11:12 PM

I’d like to see 70 someday.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Well there are probably quite a few 70 year olds who would like to see you too.

VorDaj on April 22, 2014 at 11:12 PM

FloatingRock on April 22, 2014 at 11:05 PM

I totally hear you on Syria and Libya…but what about our treaty obligations in regards to Ukraine? They demilitarized because we promised to help them when this exact situation hapoened

PaperGirl on April 22, 2014 at 11:13 PM

…Lyrica is expensive.Have you been on neurontin (gabapentin)? it comes in a generic, I think.

Doc Holliday on April 22, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Yes it does.

crankyoldlady on April 22, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Barred on April 22, 2014 at 11:10 PM

S-w-e-e-t! Thank you, Barred!

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 11:13 PM

I get that. I’ll be happy to see 80.

crankyoldlady on April 22, 2014 at 11:12 PM

80 men !!!??? Isn’t that a little excessive?

VorDaj on April 22, 2014 at 11:14 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 11:06 PM

I totally hear you

PaperGirl on April 22, 2014 at 11:14 PM

I totally hear you on Syria and Libya…but what about our treaty obligations in regards to Ukraine? They demilitarized because we promised to help them when this exact situation hapoened

PaperGirl on April 22, 2014 at 11:13 PM

Meanwhile…44m ago
US to deliver 10 Apache helicopters to Egypt after hold imposed last year amid civil unrest – @Reuters
read more on trust.org

Why is the US doing anything for that African trash heap Egypt?

Murphy9 on April 22, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Makos are my favorite sharks. ‘Mako’ was my code name when I was a member of Protest Warrior. Makos are smallish-for a ‘larger’ shark, quick, and surly…and people shouldn’t be killing them. They’re not trophies.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 11:16 PM

NativeTexan on April 22, 2014 at 11:08 PM

Awesome….check this monster tuna out..just won a record.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2596781/Fisherwoman-catches-world-record-64-STONE-tuna-worth-2-02m-3162-tins-shes-going-stuffed-instead.html

bazil9 on April 22, 2014 at 11:17 PM

crankyoldlady on April 22, 2014 at 11:08 PM

(waving) are you feeling better?

Murphy

No problem…I’m just laughing at being called a Dude LOL

B9

U hooooooooooo

Ken

Hiya

Newtie

Did you find me a “dancing” song?

CoffeeLover on April 22, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Wait until he finds out he can’t get out of it.

wolly4321 on April 22, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Sure he can–don’t pay for something that doesn’t deliver…

Did you see that now zero & Co are sending out tweets and stuff *ahem!* reminding folks who signed up for 404care that they have to PAY for 404care?

Pitiful.

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Sigh. Thanks. I guess I got so excited, I screwed up the link. LOL

NativeTexan on April 22, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Murphy9 on April 22, 2014 at 11:16 PM

We might as well burn the money and the choppers

PaperGirl on April 22, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Have you been on neurontin (gabapentin)? it comes in a generic, I think.

Doc Holliday on April 22, 2014 at 11:11 PM

I’m on it..generic..very inexpensive.

bazil9 on April 22, 2014 at 11:18 PM

I totally hear you on Syria and Libya…but what about our treaty obligations in regards to Ukraine? They demilitarized because we promised to help them when this exact situation hapoened

PaperGirl on April 22, 2014 at 11:13 PM

We are obligated to help them if they are threatened with nuclear weapons. As of now, Putin hasn’t even launched a conventional assault. The entire brouhaha is carried out by local separatists, and I can’t figure why they are evil whereas those who did exactly the same thing in Kiev are good.

Rix on April 22, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 11:13 PM

When you have time watch the whole thing.

They did it because some paper wrote that their town was dying.

They did it in one take. It’s amazing.

Barred on April 22, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Did you see that now zero & Co are sending out tweets and stuff *ahem!* reminding folks who signed up for 404care that they have to PAY for 404care?

Pitiful.

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Tweet back that we expect our premiums to decline $2500.00, as promised.

Doc Holliday on April 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM

bazil9 on April 22, 2014 at 11:18 PM

It’s not as good as Lyrica.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Awesome….check this monster tuna out..just won a record.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2596781/Fisherwoman-catches-world-record-64-STONE-tuna-worth-2-02m-3162-tins-shes-going-stuffed-instead.html

bazil9 on April 22, 2014 at 11:17 PM

About 1000lbs. Incredible. I would be on the horn to mongers in Japan before I hit dock.

Murphy9 on April 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM

CoffeeLover on April 22, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Hey there, sweet pea. =)

bazil9 on April 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM

All the men in my line paternal and maternal never see 60.

I’m doomed.

wolly4321 on April 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM

PaperGirl on April 22, 2014 at 11:14 PM

Hi, PG! Glad you snuck evaded the hall monitor ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Barred on April 22, 2014 at 11:18 PM

It IS amazing! I’m watching it now!

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Why is the US doing anything for that African trash heap Egypt?

Murphy9 on April 22, 2014 at 11:16 PM

Paying for Carter’s Nobler Prize he “earned” in Camp David.

Rix on April 22, 2014 at 11:20 PM

bazil9 on April 22, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Do you have asthma like Alt?

CoffeeLover on April 22, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Little Dreamer

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Rix on April 22, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Oh, well that’s an important point. Didn’t know that…thanks!

PaperGirl on April 22, 2014 at 11:21 PM

bazil9 on April 22, 2014 at 11:17 PM

New Zealand. Someday I want to go to NZ for sport fishing. some of the best in the world. Maybe even bag a great white.

Wonder what the guy is gonna do with that much shark?

Stuff it? Eat it? Make load of belts and boots?

NativeTexan on April 22, 2014 at 11:22 PM

Hi Cl!

KCB on April 22, 2014 at 11:22 PM

NativeTexan on April 22, 2014 at 11:17 PM

No problem, NT! The night we met, I was posting music links all night long–boy, was I embarrassed when I was made aware that over half of them no longer worked! o_O

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 11:22 PM

About 1000lbs. Incredible. I would be on the horn to mongers in Japan before I hit dock.

Murphy9 on April 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Was incredible!..posted it on my FB.
My dad in an avid fisherman..won many tournaments-caught a 450lb Yellow Fin. This tho was WOW.

In the article..says she can’t sell any because it wasn’t caught commercial.

bazil9 on April 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM

PaperGirl on April 22, 2014 at 11:14 PM
Hi, PG! Glad you snuck evaded the hall monitor ;-)
Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Wth did I miss??? I was lurking today but didn’t see anything!

PaperGirl on April 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Did you see that now zero & Co are sending out tweets and stuff *ahem!* reminding folks who signed up for 404care that they have to PAY for 404care?

Pitiful.

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 11:17 PM
Tweet back that we expect our premiums to decline $2500.00, as promised.

Doc Holliday on April 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM

I heard with half an ear today that O is going to be paying certain helpers for signing up to Ocare….i.e. like H&R Block during tax season. I am hoping for an article tomorrow to get the details.

CoffeeLover on April 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM

All the men in my line paternal and maternal never see 60.

I’m doomed.

wolly4321 on April 22, 2014 at 11:19 PM

I hear ya–my uncle was the first male on his side of the family to make it to 60 without having an MI (that’s fancy doctor speak for a heart attack).

But then again, they were all a bunch of hard drinking, hard smoking, Southern food eating gents…

I don’t drink or smoke, but Barbecue and fried shrimp are tough to resist….

Doc Holliday on April 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Newtie

Did you find me a “dancing” song?

CoffeeLover on April 22, 2014 at 11:17 PM

How about something slow and easy…so you don’t hurted yourself…

Herb Alpert – Rise

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Rix on April 22, 2014 at 11:18 PM
Oh, well that’s an important point. Didn’t know that…thanks!
PaperGirl on April 22, 2014 at 11:21 PM

And dittos on the clear evil/non evil. If it’s not apparent then no boots, blood or treasure.

PaperGirl on April 22, 2014 at 11:26 PM

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