Breaking: Supreme Court upholds MI ban on affirmative action in college admissions

posted at 10:34 am on April 22, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

What government enacts, it can repeal, says the Supreme Court in upholding the Michigan referendum that ended affirmative action in college admissions. In a stunning 6-2 decision, Justice Steven Breyer joined the conservative jurists in ruling that while the Constitution allows states to use affirmative action for admissions, it does not require states to do so:

The justices said in a 6-2 ruling Tuesday that Michigan voters had the right to change their state constitution to prohibit public colleges and universities from taking account of race in admissions decisions. The justices say that a lower federal court was wrong to set aside the change as discriminatory.

Breyer’s concurrence agrees that the political process has to be the final arbiter of whether to use such systems as the policy to produce diversity in admissions:

breyer-affaction

Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote the majority opinion for Schuette v BAMN [not Clarence Thomas, as I first wrote].  Justices Antonin Scalia and Thomas in concurrence also held that the people of a state can rationally choose how to approach diversity and compliance with constitutional requirements through the normal legislative and/or referendum process:

Unlike the injuries in Mulkey, Hunter, and Seattle, the question here is not how to address or prevent injury caused on account of race but whether voters may determine whether a policy of race-based preferences should be continued. By approving Proposal 2 and there- by adding §26 to their State Constitution, Michigan voters exercised their privilege to enact laws as a basic exercise of their democratic power, bypassing public officials they deemed not responsive to their concerns about a policy of granting race-based preferences. The mandate for segregated schools, Brown v. Board of Education, 347S. 483, and scores of other examples teach that individual liberty has constitutional protection. But this Nation’s constitutional system also embraces the right of citizens to speak and debate and learn and then, as a matter of political will, to act through a lawful electoral process, as Michigan voters have done here. These precepts are not inconsistent with the well-established principle that when hurt or in- jury is inflicted on racial minorities by the encouragement or com- mand of laws or other state action, the Constitution requires redress by the courts. Such circumstances were present in Mulkey, Hunter, and Seattle, but they are not present here.  Pp. 11–18.

Scalia and Thomas also argued that in order to overturn the referendum and the will of the electorate, the result would have to have been motivated by discrimination, which in this case it “plainly” was not:

The question here, as in every case in which neutral state action is said to deny equal protection on account of race, is whether the challenged action reflects a racially discriminatory purpose.  It plainly does not. Pp. 1–18.

The big news here is the split, with Ginsburg and Sotomayor dissenting. A 5-4 or 5-3 decision would have produced an avalanche of bitter criticism, and even this still might. But Breyer’s concurrence will absorb a lot of that reaction, probably more than Thomas’ authorship of the opinion. We’ll see.

Update: The Washington Post quotes Anthony Kennedy:

Justice Anthony Kennedy said voters chose to eliminate racial preferences because they deemed them unwise.

Kennedy said nothing in the Constitution or the court’s prior cases gives judges the authority to undermine the election results.

Sotomayor read her dissent aloud in the court, usually a sign of significant displeasure with the result. At 58 pages, her dissent went longer than the opinion and the concurrences combined.

Update: Misread the opinion citations; Kennedy authored the main opinion, Scalia and Thomas wrote a concurrence. I’ve fixed it above.


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401??? Nah. conviscated

WryTrvllr on April 22, 2014 at 9:44 PM

oops. Not yet. Better hurry.

WryTrvllr on April 22, 2014 at 9:46 PM

HonestLib on April 22, 2014 at 9:33 PM

Good evening. :)

Check the earlier part of the thread… before the trolls arrived if you’re looking for reasoned arguments.

You haven’t been on the site that long, so there’s nor reason you should know the history that ‘libfree’ has here.

There’s no reasoned argument that makes an impression on some people. That’s not why they’re here.

thatsafactjack on April 22, 2014 at 9:49 PM

Well done SCOTUS and MI! Government-sponsored racism, bigotry and sexism has no business in America.

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 9:52 PM

thatsafactjack on April 22, 2014 at 9:49 PM

I’m a simple man and I will say you have left a very positive impression on me.

HonestLib on April 22, 2014 at 9:56 PM

HonestLib on April 22, 2014 at 9:56 PM

lol! That’s very kind of you to say. Thank you.

thatsafactjack on April 22, 2014 at 9:58 PM

HL, and now you know why you’ve touched the hearts and minds of so many here! Your nom de plume suits you, too! ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on April 22, 2014 at 10:08 PM

I sent this to Hotair but it never got posted. Look what is going on in California:

“Earlier this year, some Asian-American state legislators, all of them Democrats, angered fellow Democrats when they opposed a measure that would have asked voters to restore affirmative action at California’s public universities. They’d come under intense pressure from some Chinese Americans who feared their children would have a harder time getting accepted into university.

In response, six black and Latino legislators withdrew their endorsement of State Senator Ted Lieu, who is running to succeed Henry Waxman in Congress. Sixteen legislators withheld their support of a bill unrelated to affirmative action by Assembly member Al Muratsuchi.

“I think Asian-American legislators have taken a bum rap,” Woo said. “The community pressure on them was so great.”

Some legislators in Sacramento accused their Asian-American colleagues of abandoning their commitment to diversity. That offends political consultant Bill Wong.

“I was hoping people would have a more reasoned discussion before they cast aspersions,” said Wong, who supports affirmative action. “I was a bit surprised.”

The seasoned Sacramento consultant places some blame on term limits. People serve less time together in the legislature than they once did, and don’t know each other as well. Its easier to “cast aspersions.”

He said Republicans seeking to woo Asian-Americans to the GOP delighted in the rift over a “classic wedge issue.”

http://www.scpr.org/blogs/politics/2014/04/17/16398/friction-lingers-among-asian-americans-over-affirm/

redeye on April 22, 2014 at 10:12 PM

When U of M used the excuse of ‘diversity’ and The Court bought it, I knew it was doomed to fail. I would dearly have loved to see the Court rule that the University must diversify their sports teams. Blacks are certainly over-represented in Football and Basketball. The Alumni would have revolted immediately and many would have lost their jobs at U of M as a result. Using merit in sports and ‘diversity’ every where else was a flawed experiment doomed to fail.

Jeff2161 on April 22, 2014 at 10:29 PM

Sotomayor read her dissent aloud in the court, usually a sign of significant displeasure with the result. At 58 pages, her dissent went longer than the opinion and the concurrences combined.

Almost as long as a May Day speech by a ranking politburo member.

farsighted on April 22, 2014 at 11:39 PM

I see the pathologically obsessed, bigoted, race baiting, Marxist troll and all around useless POS couldn’t stay away.

I knew it would be back. In fact, I doubt it ever left. It’s just using a new name, or two, or three, that it picked up during the recent open registrations.

farsighted on April 22, 2014 at 11:44 PM

Sotomayor read her dissent aloud in the court, usually a sign of significant displeasure with the result. At 58 pages, her dissent went longer than the opinion and the concurrences combined.

Almost as long as a May Day speech by a ranking politburo member.

farsighted on April 22, 2014 at 11:39 PM

Does it make any more sense than Moochie’s thesis or the Unabomber’s rant?

slickwillie2001 on April 22, 2014 at 11:47 PM

I’m with Frank Lib. It’s time we made good on our promise of 40 acres and a mule. Just not on BLM land, of course.

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 11:48 PM

libfree was on this thread? I ain’t gonna look. I trust he got smacked down again.

22044 on April 22, 2014 at 11:57 PM

I’ve never attributed my success to affirmative action.

libfreeordie on April 22, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Classic Clintonian Parsing of the language duly noted.

C+

Very clever, but very stale.

When you can also prove to use that pathways weren’t opened to you by AA to help you become a “success”, then get back to us.

Del Dolemonte on April 23, 2014 at 12:12 AM

libfree was on this thread? I ain’t gonna look. I trust he got smacked down again.

22044 on April 22, 2014 at 11:57 PM

Accused someone else of stalking him, threw a snitfit and left.

slickwillie2001 on April 23, 2014 at 12:13 AM

until this ruling affects private schools, it is useless.

you won’t get asians aboard unless you make the ivy league mirror UCLA requirements when it comes to considering race.

uatu1878 on April 23, 2014 at 12:19 AM

Affirmative action is racist and unfair to hard-working Whites and Asians.

If someone wants to get into a good school, then they should try studying hard.

I would be embarrassed to admit that I got into a school due to affirmative action.

bluegill on April 23, 2014 at 12:28 AM

What I find most interesting about this MI Constitution change is that the prohibition is limited to public universities and colleges.

If liberals had determined to do this — say, in 1964 — they would have made sure that private universities and colleges were covered by the change as well.

It’s this dichotomy of conservative vs. liberal thought that appears again and again. Liberals think like “Heart of Atlanta Motel v. United States” and conservatives think that private discrimination is a right — perhaps in some cases an evil one — which must be upheld.

At this point, with respect to those private universities not covered by the change to the Constitution, I’m sure the liberals are in complete agreement.

unclesmrgol on April 23, 2014 at 12:36 AM

Eat a freshly cleaned scrotum.

libfreeordie on April 22, 2014 at 1:43 PM

…we all don’t like to indulge in… your pleasures!

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2014 at 12:42 AM

One just wishes there was some kind of intellectual consistency from the court. How is it unconstitutional for Prop 8 voters to enshrine discrimination based upon sexuality into their state constitutions, but judicial overreach to strike down when another state enshrines racial discrimination into the constitution. It’s almost as if this Court simply makes whatever decisions will appease the most amount of people. Whatever, the struggle continues.

libfreeordie on April 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM

I see the Wise Latina and the black qu33r studies perfesser are on the same page…

You have a choice: Explain how disallowing racial preferences in college admissions is racist, or finally answer the following. Tic-toc.

Here’s a simple question for you. Which of the founding fathers did not subscribe to the communitarian ethos Calhoun deploys to rationalize slavery? *sets sundial*

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:30 AM

None. They weren’t nascent Commies like John C. Calhoun, and full blown Commies like you. Don’t you think you need to provide some proof for such a ridiculous smear there Mr. Calhoun? You’re a history perfesser, right?

NotCoach on August 21, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Oh dear God….hold on, give me 10 minutes.

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:45 AM

And welcome back. Is getting baked in Colorado everything you hoped it was?

NotCoach on April 23, 2014 at 8:24 AM

Here’s a simple question for you. Which of the founding fathers did not subscribe to the communitarian ethos Calhoun deploys to rationalize slavery? *sets sundial*

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:30 AM

None. They weren’t nascent Commies like John C. Calhoun, and full blown Commies like you. Don’t you think you need to provide some proof for such a ridiculous smear there Mr. Calhoun? You’re a history perfesser, right?

NotCoach on August 21, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Oh dear God….hold on, give me 10 minutes.

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:45 AM

And welcome back. Is getting baked in Colorado everything you hoped it was?

NotCoach on April 23, 2014 at 8:24 AM

This idiot “teacher” has made this claim on Hotair many times before and been defeated each time . . . and each time he slinks away and doesn’t answer, but comes back and claims it again – always claiming there is some authority for his position that the founders were socialists but never providing it.

He even linked to articles claiming they supported his thesis, but such articles did nothing of the sort. When that was pointed out – again he disappeared from the thread.

He is a typical liberal – tell a big lie (like the claim that he is a history professor somewhere) than claim “authority” for the proposition . . . then when his claims are debunked entirely, disappear, but never stops making the claims.

The reason he claims to be a history professor is an attempt to claim authority for himself when he makes such ridiculous statements. Because he is a liberal, he doesn’t understand the conservative mindset of not simply bowing to our “betters” and that we actually question his claims. Which is why he keeps trying (and failing) with the same tactic.

Monkeytoe on April 23, 2014 at 8:34 AM

I’d expect nothing less from the wide latina.

…the wise Latina…is just a piece of shit!…

..SotoRacist,
and the woman with the face of a Pigs azz, Kagen…

Sotomayor is a detestable heifer.

Live by the sword, die by the sword. Seems to me some on the left and right have decided a food fight is the way to go. What ever happened with winning the day with well thought out arguments? Words matter and how does the above bring folks over to understanding conservative ideas?

Hey, no need to listen to me as what do I know? Carry on and type away as many folks lurk here looking for a nice place to understand politics. Sigh.

HonestLib on April 22, 2014 at 9:33 PM

Just look at this place’s reaction when I called out Rush Limbaugh’s repugnant, spergy examples of racism and sexism.

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 10:30 AM

Just look at this place’s reaction when I called out Rush Limbaugh’s repugnant, spergy examples of racism and sexism.

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 10:30 AM

Link?

NotCoach on April 23, 2014 at 11:00 AM

Link?

NotCoach on April 23, 2014 at 11:00 AM

http://www.HotGas.com

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 11:14 AM

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 11:14 AM

So, nothing? Why do you fools always make it so easy for me to get you to hang yourselves?

NotCoach on April 23, 2014 at 11:34 AM

True, Rush Limbaugh does not make racist and sexist comments. These are lies from the Gaystapo Hollywood Organizing For Palestine left, I tells ya!

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 11:38 AM

True, Rush Limbaugh does not make racist and sexist comments. These are lies from the Gaystapo Hollywood Organizing For Palestine left, I tells ya!

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 11:38 AM

Link or it didn’t happen.

NotCoach on April 23, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Link to what?

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Link to what?

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 11:51 AM

A good recipe for crow or humble pie.

NotCoach on April 23, 2014 at 11:54 AM

http://www.crowbusters.com/recipes.htm

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 11:56 AM

True, Rush Limbaugh does not make racist and sexist comments. These are lies from the Gaystapo Hollywood Organizing For Palestine left, I tells ya!

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 11:38 AM

If you had any clue about what Rush actually says, you’d know that what you’re posting are in fact left wing lies.
Rush highlights the leftists’ racism and sexism and their hypocrisy about it.
But you wouldn’t know that since you’ve never listened to his show and just spout OFA talking points.

dentarthurdent on April 23, 2014 at 12:11 PM

derp

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 12:20 PM

derp

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Figures that’s the best you can do.
What are you, about 12 years old?

dentarthurdent on April 23, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Figures that’s the best you can do.
What are you, about 12 years old?

dentarthurdent on April 23, 2014 at 12:35 PM

I think it’s MaryJaneBrutus. Claims to be a conservative while constantly denigrating us, and never a legitimate response when challenged.

NotCoach on April 23, 2014 at 12:49 PM

I think it’s MaryJaneBrutus. Claims to be a conservative while constantly denigrating us, and never a legitimate response when challenged.

NotCoach on April 23, 2014 at 12:49 PM

No – I doubt this is MJBrutus.
I’ve had some civil adult level conversations with MJBrutus – far more intelligent and well, grownup….

dentarthurdent on April 23, 2014 at 12:58 PM

Basehop!

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Am I doing it rite

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Hey BD , It is true that Limbaugh makes inflammatory remarks, he’s a broadcaster. Actions speak louder than words.

What do your heroes use their cigars for?

What does BD stand for again

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 1:25 PM

How often has Limbaugh drowned a woman?

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Ever wear a sheet on his head?

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Redefined the word “is”?

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 1:35 PM

And all you’ve got are some (mostly) tongue in cheek quotes. You win. Hands down.

BD indeed.

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 1:36 PM

>doesn’t toe echo chamber line on Rush Limbaugh
>must be a Democrat

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 1:46 PM

No that’s not what the D was for.

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 2:09 PM

An echo chamber implies others with the same view chiming in. What you get with liberalism is intolerance of any other viewpoint. Witness global warming.

My daughter sat through a class, recently, where the full tenured professor said physicians should not be allowed to run for office, since they are so inured to human suffering.

Liberalism at it’s finest.

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 2:15 PM

Am I doing it rite

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 1:23 PM

you just say bingo

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Please, hotgas is one gigantic echo chamber. Any time I attack the RINO hobbyhorse of shamnesty I get nods in agreement. But call shenanigans on sperglords like Limbaugh and the gloves come off. Come on put it!

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 2:20 PM

Please, hotgas is one gigantic echo chamber. Any time I attack the RINO hobbyhorse of shamnesty I get nods in agreement. But call shenanigans on sperglords like Limbaugh and the gloves come off. Come on put it!

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 2:20 PM

That’s because you’re doing nothing more than repeating the leftists’ disinformation and talking points about someone you’ve never even listened to – by your own admission.
And you’re posts reflect the mentality and intelligence of a 12 year old – if that.
The stuff you’ve posted about Rush so far is pure garbage.
If you want to talk about Rush being obnoxious at times, overly repetitive, and maybe a few other points, some people (like me) might actually agree with you.
But if you ever actually listened to him, you would know he is most definitely not racist, sexist, or any of the other trash you leftists throw at him.

Grow up and get a clue – and you might be able to earn a bit of respect.

dentarthurdent on April 23, 2014 at 2:50 PM

The stuff you’ve posted about Rush so far is pure garbage.

I posted his quotes. At least you agree that his racist and sexist comments are garbage. Unless you actually agree with them, which, if so, I uh WOW.

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 3:01 PM

I posted his quotes. At least you agree that his racist and sexist comments are garbage. Unless you actually agree with them, which, if so, I uh WOW.

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 3:01 PM

You really are clueless.

dentarthurdent on April 23, 2014 at 3:05 PM

So BD, you come to a right of center website, and are shocked to find people who think alike.

BD

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 3:09 PM

Well I’m personally not shocked, but my handlers pay me to pretend to be.

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 3:18 PM

Well I’m personally not shocked, but my handlers pay me to pretend to be.

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 3:18 PM

You’re OFA handlers are paying way too much.
But then leftists have never understood the value of pay for performance.

dentarthurdent on April 23, 2014 at 3:28 PM

“Your,” not “You’re.”

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Minutiae Dweller.

I’ve known quite a few “Intelligentsia” like that.

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 3:54 PM

I posted his quotes. At least you agree that his racist and sexist comments are garbage. Unless you actually agree with them, which, if so, I uh WOW.

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 3:01 PM

Hey this could be fun.

“Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women access to the mainstream of society.”
~Rush Limbaugh, The Rush Limbaugh Show, August 12, 2005

Partially agree. Angelina Jolie or anyone looking like her didn’t need NOW’s help. So how are you guys treating Kirsten Dunst these days

“They’re out there protesting what they actually wish would happen to them sometimes.”
~Rush Limbaugh, on women who protest against sexual harassment, The Rush Limbaugh Show, April 26, 2004

Who was that Lawyer, Gloria Aldridge (?) who said she enjoyed the TSA patdowns?

“What does it say about the college co-ed Susan Fluke [sic] who goes before a congressional committee and essentially says that she must be paid to have sex — what does that make her? It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute. She wants to be paid to have sex. She’s having so much sex she can’t afford the contraception. She wants you and me and the taxpayers to pay her to have sex.”

~Rush Limbaugh, referring to Sandra Fluke, a student at Georgetown Law School who was denied the right to speak at a congressional hearing on contraception hearing, in which she planned to discuss a friend of hers who needed contraception to prevent the growth of cysts, February 29, 2012

Merely haggling over the price.

“A Georgetown coed told Nancy Pelosi’s hearing that the women in her law school program are having so much sex they’re going broke, so you and I should have to pay for their birth control. So what would you call that? I called it what it is. So, I’m offering a compromise today: I will buy all of the women at Georgetown University as much aspirin to put between their knees as they want. … So Miss Fluke and the rest of you feminazis, here’s the deal. If we are going to pay for your contraceptives and thus pay for you to have sex, we want something. We want you to post the videos online so we can all watch.”
~Rush Limbaugh, The Rush Limbaugh Show, March 1, 2012

A better deal than all these overzealous nymphos will get when the bills for Obamacare come due. Should have taken him up on it.

“Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?”
~Rush Limbaugh, basically saying that all wanted criminals are black people on his radio show in the early 1990s.

You never did respond to my quote of poor Reverend saying the same thing.

“There are more American Indians alive today than there were when Columbus arrived or at any other time in history. Does this sound like a record of genocide?”
~Rush Limbaugh, See, I Told You So, p.68, November 1993

Totally accurate statement. They own all the casinos too.

“Cholesterol has nothing to do with heart disease. Nothing wrong with saturated fats.”
~Rush Limbaugh, disputing science despite his own hospitalization back in 2009 for chest pains, March 8, 2011

Don’t know. But new research shown severe excercise also associated with atherosclerosis.

“What is it with all of these young, single white women? Overeducated- doesn’t mean intelligent.”
~Rush Limbaugh, insulting educated women, March 6, 2012

That one is self explanatory. Credentialed doesn’t mean crap.

“Look it, let me put it to you this way. The NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”
~Rush Limbaugh, making a racist comment, January 19, 2007

Yes football is violent. The racial make-up of the bloods and crips I don’t know. Didn’t a Patriot just get arrested for shooting people?

“You just gotta be who you are, and I think it’s time to get rid of this whole National Basketball Association. Call it the TBA, the Thug Basketball Association, and stop calling them teams. Call ‘em gangs.”
~Rush Limbaugh, another racist comment, December 8, 2004

Who was the guy who raped that woman in Colorado? Who is Kim Jung Un’s new best friend. Otherwise, yeah, pretty over the top. So what?

“To some people, bankers — code word for Jewish — and guess who Obama’s assaulting? He’s assaulting bankers. He’s assaulting money people. And a lot of those people on Wall Street are Jewish. So I wonder if there’s starting to be some buyer’s remorse there.”
~Rush Limbaugh, stereotyping Jewish people, January 20, 2010

? Do you know what Bernanke, Greenspan, and the Rothschilds have in common. It’s a generalization, but not an outlandish one.

“I think this reason why girls don’t do well on multiple choice tests goes all the way back to the Bible, all the way back to Genesis, Adam and Eve. God said, ‘All right, Eve, multiple choice or multiple orgasms, what’s it going to be?’ We all know what was chosen.”
~Rush Limbaugh, making another degrading comment about women, February 23, 1994

Funny, and meant to be that way. Learn to take a joke.

“When a gay person turns his back on you, it is anything but an insult; it’s an invitation.”
~Rush Limbaugh, making a “joke” about homosexual men, Summer 1994

Same. Liberals. Why… so… serious?

derp

Basement Dweller on April 22, 2014 at 3:07 PM

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Too bad. They blocked my other response. Nothing vile in there folks.

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 4:29 PM

My heroes aren’t liberal newsmen, they are conservative statesmen who are antiracist.

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Thank you.

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 4:45 PM

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 4:41 PM

I was of the impression, according to liberals, that we are all racists to some degree.

Also, how do you square that statement against “Critical Race Theory”?

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 4:47 PM

I don’t recognize that theory, since I believe race is a fake social construct.

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Oh, and hey, basement dweller! Where I live everyone hunts. Most city dwelling minorities would be terrified to visit the place, much less go hunting. I find this funny. Why you ask? Because if I, or anyone who lives here, come across a minority in the woods, and injure them or insult them in anyway, I might have to spend an extra hour getting to a hospital, cause that was either the local ER doc or the neurosurgeon!

What was that again. Derp?

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 4:56 PM

I don’t recognize that theory, since I believe race is a fake social construct.

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 4:48 PM

OK I’ll summarize it for you. You can’t be a conservative statesman and not also be a racist. So who are the racists?

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 4:57 PM

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Al Sharpton agrees

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 4:59 PM

OK I’ll summarize it for you. You can’t be a conservative statesman and not also be a racist. So who are the racists?

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 4:57 PM

I said I don’t recognize the theory. I know your spelling and reading comprehension skills are not that great, but “don’t” is a contraction of “do not.”

Toodles!

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Oh, and hey, basement dweller! Where I live everyone hunts. Most city dwelling minorities would be terrified to visit the place, much less go hunting. I find this funny. Why you ask? Because if I, or anyone who lives here, come across a minority in the woods, and injure them or insult them in anyway, I might have to spend an extra hour getting to a hospital, cause that was either the local ER doc or the neurosurgeon!

What was that again. Derp?

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 4:56 PM

So?

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Yeah, but what you said is you have no heroes, according to the liberals you seem to agre with on most issues.

Toodles.

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 5:12 PM

agree

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Conjunction junction, from a radon junkie who says “derp”.

It’s been a great day.

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Yeah, but what you said is you have no heroes, according to the liberals you seem to agre with on most issues.

Toodles.

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 5:12 PM

I didn’t say I have no heroes. I said my heroes are conservative statesmen who are antiracist. Of which there are many.

None of whom are that popular with the conservative movement nowadays, but I digress.

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Glad I could help! :P

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 5:19 PM

I said my heroes are conservative statesmen who are antiracist. Of which there are many.

Not according to the people you got those quotes from. Thanks for playing.

WryTrvllr on April 23, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Basement Dweller on April 23, 2014 at 11:38 AM

I haven’t read the whole thread buy how in the world do you mix Rush Limbaugh into a SCOTUS thread?

Cindy Munford on April 23, 2014 at 10:42 PM

I haven’t read the whole thread buy how in the world do you mix Rush Limbaugh into a SCOTUS thread?

Cindy Munford on April 23, 2014 at 10:42 PM

Someone said they couldn’t stand Erik Erikson subbing for Limbaugh and I snarkily responded that I can’t stand Limbaugh speaking for himself. Also added that he’s fat.

Basement Dweller on April 24, 2014 at 10:10 AM

Ah yes, that pesky democratic process that allows the will of the electorate to prevail. Good work Supreme Court (minus two).

HueMoss on April 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Also added that he’s fat.

Basement Dweller on April 24, 2014 at 10:10 AM

He’s not fat Radon sniffer. He’s carbon sequestering with the latest technology we have!

WryTrvllr on April 25, 2014 at 12:48 AM

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