Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on April 21, 2014 by Allahpundit

President Barack Obama is looking for convicts worthy of his rarely used power to commute sentences.

Obama has directed the Justice Department to improve its clemency recommendation process and recruit more applications from convicts, White House counsel Kathryn Ruemmler said Tuesday…

Obama commuted only one sentence in his first term, causing critics to charge that he was being too stingy with his power. Last December, Obama cut time for eight defendants sentenced under old guidelines that treated convictions for crack cocaine offenses more harshly than those involving the powder form of the drug. Critics blamed the disparity for longer sentences being handed to black convicts, and Obama changed the sentencing standards for future cases beginning in 2010.

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Thousands and thousands of people like Scrivner are serving punishingly long sentences in federal prison based on draconian policies that were a relic of the “tough on crime” antidrug laws of the ’80s and ’90s. Thirty years after skyrocketing urban violence and drug use sparked politicians to impose longer and longer sentences for drug crimes, America now incarcerates a higher rate of its population than any other country in the world. This dubious record has finally provoked a bipartisan backlash against such stiff penalties. The old laws are slowly being repealed.

Now, in his final years in office, Obama has trained his sights on prisoners like Scrivner, and wants to use his previously dormant pardon power as part of a larger strategy to restore fairness to the criminal-justice system. A senior administration official tells Yahoo News the president could grant clemency to “hundreds, perhaps thousands” of people locked up for nonviolent drug crimes by the time he leaves office — a stunning number that hasn’t been seen since Gerald Ford extended amnesty to Vietnam draft dodgers in the 1970s.

The scope of the new clemency initiative is so large that administration officials are preparing a series of personnel and process changes to help them manage the influx of petitions they expect Obama to approve…

Obama has granted just 10 commutations out of 10,000 requests. He granted 52 of the 1,600 pardon requests that made it to his desk.

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Later this week, the deputy attorney general will announce new criteria that the department will consider when recommending applications for the President’s review. This new and improved approach will make the criteria for clemency recommendation more expansive. This will allow the Department of Justice and the president to consider requests from a larger field of eligible individuals.

Once these reforms go into effect, we expect to receive thousands of additional applications for clemency. And we at the Department of Justice will meet this need by assigning potentially dozens of lawyers – with backgrounds in both prosecution and defense – to review applications and provide the rigorous scrutiny that all clemency applications require.

As a society, we pay much too high a price whenever our system fails to deliver the just outcomes necessary to deter and punish crime, to keep us safe, and to ensure that those who have paid their debts have a chance to become productive citizens.

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As has been the case with many recent Presidents, Barack Obama has been rather parsimonious with the use of his pardon power. As he neared the end of his second year in office, I noted that he had pardoned more turkeys than people, and at the end of year he finally issued his first pardons of less than a dozen people. As of December 31, 2013, President Obama had pardoned a total of 61 people, an average of 12 pardons per year over the five years he’d been in office. That put him on a pace to issue the fewest pardons and/or grants of clemency of any American President going back to the administration of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. If the Administration actually does go through with this plan, it would more than make up for Obama’s stinginess with the pardon power up until now, and could potentially put up him there with FDR himself, who granted nearly 3,400 pardons or grants of clemency during the 12 years he was in the White House.

While the article doesn’t make clear exactly what criteria the Obama Administration is looking at in making these grants of clemency, it appears that they will be targeted at people who have been convicted of non-violent drug related crimes under Federal Law, which essentially means possession and related charges. Presumably, they will not be granted to people who were arrested with large quantities of marijuana, cocaine, heroin, or other illegal drugs to the point where it was obvious that they were engaged in drug trafficking. These non-violent offenders have been among the worst victims of the Federal Government’s War On Drugs because they have seen their lives ruined thanks to overly zealous law enforcement officers and sentencing guidelines that even Federal Judges complain about. If there is another class of Federal offenders who are more worthy of consideration for a pardon or clemency I’d be hard pressed to find it.

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Congress is currently discussing comprehensive, bipartisan legislation that would cut minimum sentences by half, give judges more sentencing discretion, and retroactively apply new crack cocaine sentencing standards to prisoners convicted under previous requirements.

One bill, sponsored by Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, would cut by half the five-, 10-, and 20-year minimums now required for first and second drug-sale offenses…

Some federal prosecutors have pushed back on efforts to change mandatory sentencing laws, arguing that they believe they are an effective tool in wringing out information involving important drug kingpin cases or major murders…

“Prosecutors’ fears are that our record low level of serious crime in America will begin to rise and nobody will monitor the cost of re-arresting offenders when they commit new crimes, and re-prosecuting them,” says Scott Burns, head of the National District Attorneys Association. “Bottom line, if it ain’t broke why fix it?”

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At a congressional hearing earlier this month, Holder fielded complaints about the new commutation effort from a Republican who thought it too aggressive, and a Democrat who said it didn’t go far enough.

“Can you give me any precedent of previous attorney generals’ offices who have solicited petitions for pardons or clemency limited to a particular category of crime?” Rep. Randy Forbes (R-Va.) asked. He wondered why DOJ wasn’t seeking clemency applications from those convicted of “white-collar crime or campaign finance laws or a host of other areas that have been over-criminalized, all who also do the overcrowding that we’re very concerned with, but have a much lower recidivism rate.”

Holder, a former judge and chief federal prosecutor for Washington D.C., said the clemency effort was aimed specifically at sentences driven by laws setting mandatory minimums for drug crimes. “We’re dealing with a particular problem, and that is that I think the pendulum swung a little too far in the ’80s,” he said…

”The President has authority to grant clemency to certain individuals who are no longer dangerous to the community. But I hope President Obama is not seeking to change sentencing policy unilaterally,” Hatch said. “Congress, not the President, has authority to make sentencing policy. He should continue to work with Congress rather than once again going it alone, and I’m willing to work with the President on these issues.”

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The way our system deals with bad laws is to change them by legislative repeal or amendment, not for the president to decree new laws unilaterally. And, in fact, the drug laws have been changed: Crack is still treated more harshly, but the crack floor for the 10-year minimum was raised (by a factor of more than 5) from 50 to 280 grams. Similarly, for the 5-year mandatory minimum, the ratio is no longer 100:1 — while it is still triggered by 500 grams of powder cocaine, it now takes 28 grams of crack, not 5 grams…

President Obama is using the pardon power to rewrite the statute unilaterally. The time drug offenders spend in jail will be based on his subjective notion of fairness, not the policy embodied in our drug statutes. This is not faithful execution of the law, which is the president’s core constitutional duty. It is the execution of Obama’s whims.

Holder’s announced reasons for this policy are bogus. Because the federal and state governments have concurrent jurisdiction over narcotics offenses, the feds focus on drug importation and distribution felonies, while the states cover mere possession and use. So it simply isn’t true that thousands of people are languishing in federal prison simply for drug possession or addiction…

Finally, Attorney General Holder and the Obama administration may be the worst imaginable officials to carry out a commutation program based on the president’s pardon power. When he served as deputy attorney general under Attorney General Janet Reno, Holder was infamously at the center of the Clinton administration’s pardon scandal. He was a key figure in the 1999 pardons of FALN terrorists; and the pardon process he engineered for Clinton resulted in the release not only of Marc Rich but of two convicted Weather Underground terrorists. So obviously, his idea of “nonviolent” probably does not conform to what most Americans think of when they hear that term.

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Anthony Papa, a spokesman for the Drug Policy Alliance, called the administration’s reforms a step in the right direction. “I hope governors with the same power at the state level follow his lead and reunite more families,” Papa said. “With half a million people still behind bars on non-violent drug charges, clearly thousands are deserving of a second chance. Congress should act immediately to reduce the draconian federal mandatory minimum sentences that condemn thousands to decades behind bars for non-violent drug offenses.”

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Doc Holliday on April 22, 2014 at 2:38 AM

Realistically you could just spike up again and claim real parents are the bad guys & child abandoners are the good guys.

I mean what’s not conservative about abandoning a child until after they graduate & then taking them in and charging them “rent.”

Sounds more like a tenant to me.

frank on April 22, 2014 at 2:36 AM

You really have to quit getting your definition of conservative from MSLSD…

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 2:39 AM

Repost for Oscar as I got page flipped…
Close enough…

Doc Holliday on April 22, 2014 at 2:40 AM

Sounds like you been to King County lately?..:)

Dire Straits on April 22, 2014 at 1:57 AM

Nearby, yep. Am across the pond from Seattle, helping dear ol’ mom. How’d you know?

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 2:42 AM

Repost for Oscar as I got page flipped…
Close enough…

Doc Holliday on April 22, 2014 at 2:40 AM

Nope… Never be caught dead in glasses like that.

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 2:43 AM

Huge. Let them go. Seriously. ALL of them. ALL of the non-violent drug criminals. And while were at it, end the idiotic drug war. Just say we’re not doing that anymore. We’re going to fight drugs another way. Like Portugal, which decriminalized all drugs, and drug addiction and use dropped…. dramatically.

http://www.businessinsider.com/portugal-drug-policy-decriminalization-works-2012-7

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=portugal+drug+decriminalization

anotherJoe on April 22, 2014 at 2:44 AM

Axe on April 22, 2014 at 2:32 AM

schoouch…
I make a motion we move Ms Upton to the International Space Station ASAP…

going2mars on April 22, 2014 at 2:44 AM

OK gang, it’s time to call it a night. It’s nearly 2 am here. thankfully I don’t have to go to work tomorrow. :)
Good Night, y’all!

Doc Holliday on April 22, 2014 at 2:46 AM

Oh for the love of God — I reloaded the page and saw for the first time a butt-ugly ginger with a face full of hardware. Blecch! Eye bleach!!!

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 2:46 AM

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 2:39 AM
i knew that his ‘abandonment’ crack was directed at me.

He pays rent because that’s part of adulthood. He also pays for his own car insurance and most of his own food. Living with us allows him to be an adult-while still having a bit of a safety net if he needs it. He likes this arrangement. We like this arrangement.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 2:47 AM

Axe on April 22, 2014 at 2:32 AM

schoouch…
I make a motion we move Ms Upton to the International Space Station ASAP…

going2mars on April 22, 2014 at 2:44 AM

Think of all the money we could raise for space exploration selling tickets to go up there and meet her. We could probably finance a base on the moon and a manned mission to mars that way.

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 2:48 AM

anotherJoe on April 22, 2014 at 2:44 AM

Well yep, Joe, we see fairly eye to eye, but then, dealers knew the risk when they took it, they were reaping profits in an industry with supply artificially restricted, but users? Pfft.

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 2:49 AM

Now I miss Sophie even more. She’s built better and twice as hot.

All right. I quit. I give. I yield. I can’t take it anymore.

#SOPHIECOTT #AXECOTT #HOTAIRCOTT #BREASTCOTT #KATEUPTONCOTT #ACTIVISTCOTT . . .

Other cotts to be announced.

<— Stomps off stage left.

{{{{{Sophie Ro}}}}}

<— Stomps off stage left.

Axe on April 22, 2014 at 2:49 AM

frank on April 22, 2014 at 2:36 AM

Um…Frank…he lived with his dad…but we had joint custody. I was quite involved with his life whist he was growing up.
This month-he’s having me help him plan his summer…that he’ll be spending in England.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 2:51 AM

We like this arrangement.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 2:47 AM

Well of course, alt. You are helping him get on his feet and treating him with respect. It’s the entitlement culture that says he could have 15 kids and one in the oven and demand everyone else pay.

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 2:51 AM

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 2:48 AM

three words..
“pay per view”…

going2mars on April 22, 2014 at 2:53 AM

anotherJoe on April 22, 2014 at 2:44 AM

Well yep, Joe, we see fairly eye to eye, but then, dealers knew the risk when they took it, they were reaping profits in an industry with supply artificially restricted, but users? Pfft.

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 2:49 AM

What works in Portugal may not work in America, though I rather suspect that Colorado and Washington state might be testing the theory. Personally I likewise believe that the war on drugs as been a complete failure and unmitigated disaster. It has given the fed an excuse to trample on civil and constitutional rights and become a militarized tyranny.

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 2:54 AM

Realistically you could just spike up again and claim real parents are the bad guys & child abandoners are the good guys.
I mean what’s not conservative about abandoning a child until after they graduate & then taking them in and charging them “rent.”
Sounds more like a tenant to me.
frank on April 22, 2014 at 2:36 AM
You really have to quit getting your definition of conservative from MSLSD…
oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 2:39 AM

Yes the realparent is the one who abandoned their child. Thanks for letting all in on where you stand.

Of course as a junkie I’m sure you’re all too familiar with it.

frank on April 22, 2014 at 2:55 AM

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 2:48 AM

three words..
“pay per view”…

going2mars on April 22, 2014 at 2:53 AM

Umm… yea… that works as well…

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 2:55 AM

Axe on April 22, 2014 at 2:49 AM

SLAP… steady yourself ole boy….

going2mars on April 22, 2014 at 2:56 AM

Nearby, yep. Am across the pond from Seattle, helping dear ol’ mom. How’d you know?

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 2:42 AM

I know that you would take care of your parent’s computers..:):)

Dire Straits on April 22, 2014 at 2:57 AM

Of course as a junkie I’m sure you’re all too familiar with it.

frank on April 22, 2014 at 2:55 AM

Not having any kids, umm, no, I’m not. As for being a junkie? wrong again frank. My drugs of choice were cocaine and meth, and I’ve been clean for over 15 years.

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 2:58 AM

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 2:51 AM

He was considering moving out this fall-but this England trip will be $$$ intensive.
He’ll probably move out the fall of his senior year.
When he does-he’ll be responsible enough to make it work.
I’m very proud of my son.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 2:59 AM

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 2:58 AM

Awesome!

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 3:00 AM

Of course as a junkie I’m sure you’re all too familiar with it.
frank on April 22, 2014 at 2:55 AM
Not having any kids, umm, no, I’m not. As for being a junkie? wrong again frank. My drugs of choice were cocaine and meth, and I’ve been clean for over 15 years.
oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 2:58 AM

Once a junkie always a junkie.

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:02 AM

Axe on April 22, 2014 at 2:32 AM

Yowza. That’s all I got.

SparkPlug on April 22, 2014 at 3:02 AM

Axe on April 22, 2014 at 2:49 AM

He has the best tantrums. The best. He is Axe.

SparkPlug on April 22, 2014 at 3:03 AM

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 2:58 AM

Once a junkie always a junkie.

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:02 AM

You’re an imbecile frank, a junkie is someone who uses heroin, I never did. More importantly, I quit because I didn’t like what using was doing to me. It was making me crazy and impossible to get along with. So I quit, entirely on my own.

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:06 AM

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 2:58 AM
Once a junkie always a junkie.
frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:02 AM
You’re an imbecile frank, a junkie is someone who uses heroin, I never did. More importantly, I quit because I didn’t like what using was doing to me. It was making me crazy and impossible to get along with. So I quit, entirely on my own.
oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:06 AM

“Junkie” is a common phrase regardless of it’s literal application.

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:14 AM

I’m very proud of my son.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 2:59 AM

Thumbs up!..As well you should be..:)

PS..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on April 22, 2014 at 3:15 AM

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:14 AM

You really are a prick.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 3:16 AM

It has given the fed an excuse to trample on civil and constitutional rights and become a militarized tyranny.

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 2:54 AM

Exactly. Absurd waste of money and time. Grace comes from within, it will never be any different. And don’t listen to the troll, users come in every flipping flavor. It’s simpletons that have to simplify.

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 3:16 AM

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:06 AM

“Junkie” is a common phrase regardless of it’s literal application.

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:14 AM

So much for your post secondary education, you’re just a self righteous ignorant puke.

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:16 AM

WATCH LIVE @ 8 pm ET: Lyrid Meteor Shower Webcasts from NASA, Slooh

yes its still on… astronomy is slow

http://www.space.com/19195-night-sky-planets-asteroids-webcasts.html

going2mars on April 22, 2014 at 3:17 AM

Dire Straits on April 22, 2014 at 2:57 AM

Yeah, my folks were so pissed off they couldn’t see straight. Had to talk them off the ledge…;)

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 3:18 AM

Exactly. Absurd waste of money and time. Grace comes from within, it will never be any different. And don’t listen to the troll, users come in every flipping flavor. It’s simpletons that have to simplify.

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 3:16 AM

Meh, frank has an insatiable appetite for being an a$$hole, makes him an a$$hole junkie.

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:18 AM

I’m very proud of my son.
annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 2:59 AM
Thumbs up!..As well you should be..:)
PS..Good evening..:)
Dire Straits on April 22, 2014 at 3:15 AM

Repent!! Do it now!!! Not for my good but the good of the child!

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:19 AM

astronomy is slow

going2mars on April 22, 2014 at 3:17 AM

ROTFLMAO… Makes watching paint dry seem like a high speed sport.

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:20 AM

Dire Straits on April 22, 2014 at 3:15 AM

Repent!! Do it now!!! Not for my good but the good of the child!

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:19 AM

If anyone here is in need of some serious soul searching and repenting frank, it’s you.

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:21 AM

oscarwilde on April 22

exactly.. grass grows faster.
and this guys voice.. on the slooh site.. he will lull you to sleep quick…

going2mars on April 22, 2014 at 3:23 AM

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:19 AM

If anyone here is in need of some serious soul searching and repenting frank, it’s you.

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:21 AM

Of course we all know that isn’t going to happen, self righteous pricks like yourself never can see the beam in their own eye while trying to pick the splinter out of someone elses.

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:23 AM

Exactly. Absurd waste of money and time. Grace comes from within, it will never be any different. And don’t listen to the troll, users come in every flipping flavor. It’s simpletons that have to simplify.
John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 3:16 AM
Meh, frank has an insatiable appetite for being an a$$hole, makes him an a$$hole junkie.
oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:18 AM

Grace most certainly comes from “within!!!”

The problem with OW is that the lifestyle left him but he never left the lifestyle!

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:24 AM

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:19 AM
If anyone here is in need of some serious soul searching and repenting frank, it’s you.
oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:21 AM
Of course we all know that isn’t going to happen, self righteous pricks like yourself never can see the beam in their own eye while trying to pick the splinter out of someone elses.
oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:23 AM

Mod course this is none sense. I consider myself an even larger sinner than you.

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:27 AM

the lifestyle left him but he never left the lifestyle!

Good God I hope so! The key to life is to NEVER grow up!

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 3:28 AM

I consider myself an even larger sinner than you.

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:27 AM

Which is no doubt why you take such pride and go to such pains to be a complete a$$hole.

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:29 AM

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:19 AM

The ‘child’ is 20-and has a lot of respect for BOTH of his parents.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 3:29 AM

Dire Straits on April 22

Richmond this weekend…fri and sat night races.. any faves??

going2mars on April 22, 2014 at 3:34 AM

I consider myself an even larger sinner than you.
frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:27 AM
Which is no doubt why you take such pride and go to such pains to be a complete a$$hole.
oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:29 AM

Well there’s absolutely no doubt in my mind that an unrepentant junkie should fit in quite well with the fraudulent conservatives &, above all, the fraudulent Catholic & quasi- racist cesspool this place has become.

I didn’t come here to address you but another.

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:38 AM

Wait, what? Now we’re racist?

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 3:42 AM

Man, am I bummed! I’m racist and I didn’t even get to enjoy it! All I got is this lousy T-shirt.

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 3:42 AM

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:29 AM

Well there’s absolutely no doubt in my mind that an unrepentant junkie should fit in quite well with the fraudulent conservatives &, above all, the fraudulent Catholic & quasi- racist cesspool this place has become.

I didn’t come here to address you but another.

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:38 AM

You keep using that word, “repent”, it obviously does not mean what you think it means.

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:43 AM

Wait, what? Now we’re racist?
John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 3:42 AM

A moron generalizes about moronic things; how original.

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:44 AM

You leveled the judgment, franky. How does that make me a moron?

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 3:46 AM

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:29 AM
Well there’s absolutely no doubt in my mind that an unrepentant junkie should fit in quite well with the fraudulent conservatives &, above all, the fraudulent Catholic & quasi- racist cesspool this place has become.
I didn’t come here to address you but another.
frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:38 AM
You keep using that word, “repent”, it obviously does not mean what you think it means.
oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:43 AM

Oh, no, it couldn’t possibly be! Why haven’t I recognized I needed your tutelage all along!

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:48 AM

Oscar, I’m getting the feeling we’re feeding a shut-in. I’m out. Cheers.

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 3:50 AM

Wait, what? Now we’re racist?
John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 3:42 AM
A moron generalizes about moronic things; how original.
frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:44 AM

No. You did.

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:51 AM

You leveled the judgment, franky. How does that make me a moron?

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2014 at 3:46 AM

Good thing we have frank, with his PhD in psychology and his ThD to help all of us see the errors of our way and understand how uneducated and stupid we all are.

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:51 AM

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:43 AM

Oh, no, it couldn’t possibly be! Why haven’t I recognized I needed your tutelage all along!

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:48 AM

Well, for one you could try looking up the definition of arrogance, yes, frank, that is your picture right next to the definition. the number of foolish assumptions you have made about everyone here really is a riot.

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:54 AM

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:43 AM
Oh, no, it couldn’t possibly be! Why haven’t I recognized I needed your tutelage all along!
frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:48 AM
Well, for one you could try looking up the definition of arrogance, yes, frank, that is your picture right next to the definition. the number of foolish assumptions you have made about everyone here really is a riot.
oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:54 AM

“Foolish assumptions???” Really? Perhaps you should do a bit of research.

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:59 AM

Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

Proverbs 26:4

novaculus on April 22, 2014 at 4:04 AM

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:54 AM

“Foolish assumptions???” Really? Perhaps you should do a bit of research.

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:59 AM

Research is apparently another of those words you don’t know the definition of. Look, I would really love to stay and continue winding you up, but alas, I have to be at the Hospital tomorrow. while I’m there, perhaps I can get one of the doctors there to cut out pieces of my sense of humor and compassion so you can have them transplanted into your heart, though, as poisonous as your heart is, it would no doubt kill them just like it did whatever humor or compassion you originally possessed.

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 4:06 AM

oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 3:54 AM
“Foolish assumptions???” Really? Perhaps you should do a bit of research.
frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:59 AM
Research is apparently another of those words you don’t know the definition of. Look, I would really love to stay and continue winding you up, but alas, I have to be at the Hospital tomorrow. while I’m there, perhaps I can get one of the doctors there to cut out pieces of my sense of humor and compassion so you can have them transplanted into your heart, though, as poisonous as your heart is, it would no doubt kill them just like it did whatever humor or compassion you originally possessed.
oscarwilde on April 22, 2014 at 4:06 AM

Nonsensical response from a nonsensical man. This hog trough is yours & others that made it so. Enjoy the slop & remnants thereof.

frank on April 22, 2014 at 4:14 AM

Oscar, may your trip to the hospital be a short one. Blessings to you.

31giddyup on April 22, 2014 at 4:29 AM

Ben E. King – Stand by Me

31giddyup on April 22, 2014 at 4:43 AM

He pays rent because that’s part of adulthood. He also pays for his own car insurance and most of his own food. Living with us allows him to be an adult-while still having a bit of a safety net if he needs it. He likes this arrangement. We like this arrangement.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 22, 2014 at 2:47 AM

He sounds like a responsible kid. I know you’re proud of him.

crankyoldlady on April 22, 2014 at 5:00 AM

Hey COL, it’s still dark here and a bit chilly. Mutts are sleeping with one eye open ’till I go to bed. Wanted to say “hI” before I try a second time to hit the hay. Maybe I should try fluffing it. Hitting it doesn’t seem to work.

31giddyup on April 22, 2014 at 5:12 AM

Hey COL, it’s still dark here and a bit chilly. Mutts are sleeping with one eye open ’till I go to bed. Wanted to say “hI” before I try a second time to hit the hay. Maybe I should try fluffing it. Hitting it doesn’t seem to work.

31giddyup on April 22, 2014 at 5:12 AM

I don’t know what that’s like. I’ve never had trouble sleeping. All I have to do is sit down to read or watch tv.

crankyoldlady on April 22, 2014 at 6:03 AM

Morning HA

cmsinaz on April 22, 2014 at 6:10 AM

Joe not liking folks paying less taxes on their investments than folks who pay more from their paycheck
Their is a difference…..
Michael Steele trying to explain the difference but joe won’t have it
The millionaires and billionaires need to pay more taxes by golly I don’t care what you say
-joe

cmsinaz on April 22, 2014 at 6:26 AM

Sharyl on morning joe now

cmsinaz on April 22, 2014 at 6:47 AM

She won’t answer if there is bias on the networks

cmsinaz on April 22, 2014 at 6:50 AM

Disappointed with sharyl… she wouldn’t say much about Benghazi and blame this administration

cmsinaz on April 22, 2014 at 6:59 AM

No. You did.

frank on April 22, 2014 at 3:51 AM

No, you did.
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Dude, you’re bottom of the barrel.

CW on April 22, 2014 at 7:06 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! And Troll(s).

Welcome back, Ms. C!

Regardless of what all of the Liberal experts say, a male father figure is essential in building a young man’s self- image. – KJ

My take: Gang-Related Violence: It Doesn’t take a Village. It Takes a Dad.

kingsjester on April 22, 2014 at 7:15 AM

Thanks KJ :)

Excellent take….. read it folks

cmsinaz on April 22, 2014 at 7:30 AM

cmsinaz on April 22, 2014 at 7:30 AM

Thank you, ma’am!

kingsjester on April 22, 2014 at 7:38 AM

We used to find our leaders amongst the ranks of the accomplished and the self-disciplined. Today we find them in the ranks of the lazy and the entitled.

Cleombrotus on April 22, 2014 at 7:43 AM

Yes, fathers are essential. We raised three son, and now it is so gratifying to see them become loving and caring fathers.

When our youngest son was nine years old a storyteller came to his school and told stories about her life growing up on a farm. Afterwards, the school children were assigned the task of writing a few sentences about what they liked best. All the other children were writing about the cow or the pig story. My son wrote that we must love our children, because if we do, then they will love their children and the love will pass from generation to generation.

esr1951 on April 22, 2014 at 7:44 AM

Nice ESR :)

cmsinaz on April 22, 2014 at 7:52 AM

cmsinaz on April 22, 2014 at 7:52 AM

Nice to have you back. Next year, give up something else for Lent, mmmmkay?

esr1951 on April 22, 2014 at 7:53 AM

You got it esr :)

cmsinaz on April 22, 2014 at 7:59 AM

Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

Proverbs 26:4

novaculus on April 22, 2014 at 4:04 AM

Part and parcel with Prov 18:6
The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.

Murphy9 on April 22, 2014 at 12:39 PM

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