Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on April 18, 2014 by Allahpundit

ObamaCare’s critics have had a bad week. On Thursday, President Obama announced that 8 million people have enrolled in new health insurance plans through the Affordable Care Act’s marketplaces, and a significant portion of them are young Americans. Yes, we need to learn more about the numbers. And yes, a lot needs to happen to complete the ACA’s phase-in. The debate about how well the law is working is not over. But the initial figures are encouraging, and Mr. Obama is right to insist that continued Republican demands for repeal are unproductive and unwise…

The Obama administration has a lot more work to do: After this year’s big push, the marketplaces are not even half way to enrolling the 25 million or so customers the CBO expects eventually will sign up. Temporary measures to provide financial stability to the marketplaces will phase out over the next few years. And narrower networks must not result in people lacking timely access to basic care. Even so, the news about Obamacare is good, even if Republicans can’t quite bring themselves to admit it yet.

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President Barack Obama has laid out the blueprint he thinks his party should follow on Obamacare as the midterms approach: “forcefully defend and be proud” of the law — and then move on, hitting Republicans for Washington dysfunction and inaction on the economy…

The president’s advice reflects what his aides have been saying privately for weeks — including in conversations to anxious Democratic campaign officials: They believe voters are ready to move on, and that they can use their economic fairness argument to boost their base’s turnout in a way that can counter the Republicans’ base appeal on Obamacare repeal…

“The president is absolutely right,” DNC communications director Mo Elleithee said. “Despite every piece of data showing that the ACA is helping millions of Americans and surpassing expectations, Republicans are living in an alternate reality. They are obsessed with repeal, despite the fact that Americans overwhelming disagree with them. That’s a contrast that every Democrat should feel good about making.”

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President Obama opened his press conference Thursday with a bold proclamation that “the repeal debate is and should be over.” But his declaration of victory in the long-running war over his health care overhaul did not last long. Only five questions later, he was forced to offer a softer, almost wistful acknowledgement of the reality that there are many more battles to wage and the debate could go on for years

“That’s going to take more time. But it’s not for lack of trying on my part,” he admitted. He reached back for a historical analogy, noting that opponents of Medicare fought for years after that law’s 1965 passage. “So we’ve been through this cycle before. It happens each and every time we make some strides in terms of strengthening our commitments to each other and … we expand some of these social insurance programs. There’s a lot of fear-mongering and a lot of political arguments and debate, and a lot of accusations are flung back and forth about socialized medicine and the end of freedom.”

Eventually, he said, the public realizes that the law works and “then we move on.” But he acknowledged, “I don’t know how long it’s going to take.”

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Shortly after the Supreme Court’s decision on Obamacare, the CBO projected that 9 million people would buy Obamacare-compliant insurance through newly established government-run exchanges. Now, after an enrollment period that his administration expanded by about two months—to more than half a year—President Obama says that 8 million people have “signed up” for (but in many cases haven’t actually bought) insurance through those exchanges.

The Obama administration’s stated goal was to have 39 percent of those who bought such insurance be between the ages of 18 and 34. Now Obama says the actual percentage is 28 percent.

Only in Washington, D.C. could someone put up numbers like these and then brag about them.

But, in truth, all of this talk about enrollment numbers is beside the point. Back when the Democrats defied public opinion and rammed Obamacare into law using the Cornhusker Kickback, Gator Aid, the Louisiana Purchase, and all the rest of the unseemly gimmicks they employed, opponents of Obamacare didn’t claim that the reason why the health-care overhaul would be bad was because it wouldn’t hit the coverage numbers the CBO projected.

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What the administration has not told us is how many of those 19 million people already had coverage and lost it because of the Affordable Care Act. Or how many of them would have been covered by insurance this year and changed plans to get a big subsidy. Or how many of them thought they were going to get a better health plan but found out that their doctor is not in the network. Or how many of them spent more on insurance than they felt they could afford because there were no lower-cost alternatives. Or how many will find out that the taxpayer subsidy they are receiving will turn out to be too high—they might get a raise in a few months or work some overtime and will make a little too much money this year, or it might just be that the government’s computers didn’t get it right—and will have to repay the Treasury hundreds and perhaps thousands of dollars?

The president’s health plan is a hugely complicated enterprise. It has limped to the end of the first open enrollment period with numbers that look too good to be true. If what we care about is getting insurance for people who otherwise would not be covered, then the numbers are too good to be true.

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One factor that the CBO did not include was enrollees who leave the exchanges because their income shrinks thereby qualifying them for Medicaid. The U.C. Berkeley Center for Labor Research and Education recently estimated that just under one-fifth of enrollees on Covered California would leave the exchange for Medicaid. Combined with people who left because they gained employer-based coverage, the Center found that Covered California would retain about 57.5 percent of current enrollees.

If that occurs across all exchanges,then the final enrollment number will be closer to 4.6 million. Of course, not every state is California (thank goodness), so the amount of churn due to Medicaid and employer-based coverage will vary across the nation. Yet those factors will cause the eight million figure to be revised downward as the year goes on.

Each time that happens in the coming months, the media will hark back to the President’s victory dance. For a public that doesn’t much trust Obama on health care, each revision will likely erode that trust a little further. They will also provide his political opponents with more opportunities to claim Obamacare isn’t working as well as the President claimed.

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I assume that liberals will declare victory, with some reason, if Obamacare meets the C.B.O.’s current (reduced) expectations, this year and beyond. But what if it doesn’t? Suppose that by the end of 2016, when the C.B.O. expects the total number of uninsured to have fallen by 25 million, it’s only fallen by, say, 15 million instead — and most of the previously uninsured are getting coverage through Medicare, while the exchanges are mostly populated by people whose prior individual-market coverage was cancelled, either in 2014 or once grandfathering runs out. Will that be a success story? Presumably there’s some kind of shortfall that the law’s supporters would consider, if not a sign of outright failure, than at least a reason to be fairly disappointed with how Obamacare has worked. It would be helpful to know what they think that long-run number lies…

Does Obamacare need to hold inflation to the low 2011-2012 pace (a pace, again, that many liberals wanted to credit to its early impact) in order to be counted as a cost-containing success? Does it just need to hold inflation below, say, a 10 or 20-year average? (Note that both on its own terms and relative to overall inflation, health cost inflation had been declining for seven years before Obamacare was passed — so just holding either rate below the average of 2000-2010 would not actually be that impressive.) In other words — what does the Affordable Care Act have to achieve in order to live up to its name?

Health outcomes. It’s been crowded out by the website drama like everything else, but one of the major divides between Obamacare supporters and skeptics was over whether, and to what extent, the law would literally be a lifesaver — with writers like Klein famously invoking “lives saved” figures in the hundreds of thousands during the run-up to the law’s passage, while doubters cited the surprisingly-weak link between insurance status and health outcomes, and raised the potential public-health downsides, in terms of innovations lost or never sought, of increasing government control…

So here, too, I’m curious what liberals expect to see, what they’ll count as vindication, what would disappoint them, and what kind of results they think will be sufficient to prove that Obamacare is, in fact, a lifesaving success.

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So who has, in fact, been harmed by Obamacare? The first question, of course, is what “harmed” means. But let’s define it as anyone who faces higher premiums, or higher deductibles — adding up to a total higher cost — and/or a narrower choice of hospitals, doctors and prescription drugs than they had before. For them, health care is a more expensive and troublesome proposition than it was before Obamacare…

Everything we know about the system suggests there are millions of Americans in that position, but how many? “There is no hard number,” says health care analyst Bob Laszewski. The reasons are as complicated as Obamacare itself…

The bottom line, according to Laszewski: “We have literally millions of people each impacted a bit differently.” That’s hard to quantify and turn into a neat political argument…

Will people who pay more, or who get less, or both, take their Obamacare unhappiness out against Democrats this November? Some surely will. But how many, and how strongly motivated they will be, will probably remain unknown until after the polls have closed.

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As much as Obama would like to think the debate is over, it isn’t. And it’s not just because the politics haven’t settled down. It’s because there’s still important evidence to come.

The next moment of truth will be when insurers start announcing the Obamacare rates they’re going to charge next year, in a series of disclosures that will start in the summer and then continue in the fall. Any big increases are sure to become fodder for attack ads, even if they’re not widespread throughout the country.

Obama seemed to be anticipating the possibility that some premium hikes will happen, somewhere. “We suspect that premiums will keep rising, as they have for decades,” he said on Thursday — but he added that health care spending has been rising more slowly since the law took effect.

And after that, there will be more enrollment periods, and more chances to sign up new customers. But there’s also the potential for more trouble as small businesses switch to health plans that meet Obamacare standards — because some are likely to face sticker shock compared with what they had before.

“This is a three-year process. We’re in the first quarter of the first year,” said Gruber. Even so, he said, “the signals are as good as we can expect at this stage.”

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America is straight up stuck on stupid, we are so doomed…

oscarwilde on April 18, 2014 at 8:04 PM

I’m not believing the 8 million.

rbj on April 18, 2014 at 8:05 PM

rbj on April 18, 2014 at 8:05 PM

J Goebbels Carney disagrees and the beatings will continue.

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 8:09 PM

I hate this man’s guts. I truly do.

BeachBum on April 18, 2014 at 8:09 PM

Here’s the list of jobs with the highest rates of psychopathy:

1. CEO
2. Lawyer
3. Media (Television/Radio)
4. Salesperson
5. Surgeon
6. Journalist
7. Police Officer
8. Clergy person
9. Chef
10. Civil Servant

And the lowest rates of psychopathy:

1. Care Aide
2. Nurse
3. Therapist
4. Craftsperson
5. Beautician/Stylist
6. Charity Worker
7. Teacher
8. Creative Artist
9. Doctor
10. Accountant

Axe on April 18, 2014 at 8:10 PM

brushing. my. hair.

That is all.

Lanceman on April 18, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Happy Easter All!

And a Preemptive “He is Risen” to all of you believers.

portlandon on April 18, 2014 at 8:12 PM

portlandon on April 18, 2014 at 8:12 PM

He is risen, indeed!

notropis on April 18, 2014 at 8:16 PM

On Thursday, President Obama announced that 8 million people have enrolled in new health insurance plans through the Affordable Care Act’s marketplaces, and a significant portion of them are young Americans.

Lies.

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Half think they will go to jail if they don’t.

tomas on April 18, 2014 at 8:18 PM

The world is swimming in lies.

Axe on April 18, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Greeting!
Happy Friday to all trolls, Buffons, wenches, noobs, and assorted flotsam and jetsam of Hot Air!

To Axe’s list of psychopaths I would add Obstetricians–I’ve met a lot of arrogant surgeons, but I’ve met some flat out NUTZ ob/gyns. But then again, OB’s are a surgical specialty, so it fits….

Doc Holliday on April 18, 2014 at 8:20 PM

Here’s the list of jobs with the highest rates of psychopathy:

A1. Registered Hot Air Commenter
1. CEO
2. Lawyer
3. Media (Television/Radio)

Axe on April 18, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Addendum.

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 8:20 PM

They are still running ads using a front company to help people sign up in Texas.Even though the enrollment period is closed they are touting they can get you signed up and help with subsidies.The buzz words are “we help you get what

docflash on April 18, 2014 at 8:22 PM

On Thursday, President Obama announced that 8 million people have enrolled in new health insurance plans through the Affordable Care Act’s marketplaces, and a significant portion of them are young Americans.

Absolutely nothing this man says can be trusted. Not one thing. What a pitiful snake he is…

Doc Holliday on April 18, 2014 at 8:22 PM

To Axe’s list of psychopaths I would add Obstetricians–I’ve met a lot of arrogant surgeons, but I’ve met some flat out NUTZ ob/gyns. But then again, OB’s are a surgical specialty, so it fits….

Doc Holliday on April 18, 2014 at 8:20 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/arkansas-gynecologist-naked-pics-patients-exams-police-article-1.1758730

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Repost,hit post by mistake.”We help you get what you are entitled to.”

docflash on April 18, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Evening All!

Mr. all politics all the time. I’m so disgusted by this admin.

CoffeeLover on April 18, 2014 at 8:25 PM

On Thursday, President Obama announced that 8 million people have enrolled in new health insurance plans through the Affordable Care Act’s marketplaces, and a significant portion of them are young Americans.

Lies.

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Surely. All the lazies under 26 on their parents plans are counted amongst that total, which only makes things worse when new rates get figured this fall.

As bad as it will suck, it will be EPIC.

ProudinNC on April 18, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Addendum.

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 8:20 PM

I’m a CEO and Sophie’s a lawyer. We probably shouldn’t reproduce.

– BUT WE SHOULD STILL TRY, SOPH

It’s pretty clear that a significant fraction of the commentariat is, indeed, psycho. You can’t be here long without accepting that grim reality. :) Happy Easter, davidk. :)

To Axe’s list of psychopaths I would add Obstetricians–I’ve met a lot of arrogant surgeons, but I’ve met some flat out NUTZ ob/gyns. But then again, OB’s are a surgical specialty, so it fits….

Doc Holliday on April 18, 2014 at 8:20 PM

. . . here’s to having boy-parts. :)

*clink*

. . . wait, that sounded wrong. Meh, too late now.

List courtesy oscarwilde’s link above:

America is straight up stuck on stupid, we are so doomed…

oscarwilde on April 18, 2014 at 8:04 PM

Axe on April 18, 2014 at 8:27 PM

My niece is one of those young kids who’ve now enrolled in Obamacare.

Her position: It’s completely free for me, and I’d be a fool not to, if only because they will penalize me on my income taxes if I don’t.

Except it isn’t so free; she’s in a Bronze plan with a $6500 deductible. Lucky for her she’s in good health, or she’d never be able to afford hospitalization. And we taxpayers are the payers, through both our state taxes and the new Obamacare excise taxes on our own healthcare plans.

It is the death of a million hamsters. Sad.

unclesmrgol on April 18, 2014 at 8:28 PM

docflash on April 18, 2014 at 8:22 PM

we got a similar ad running down here too.

Can you believe he used toddlers in his equation of those under 35 now enrolled to get his 35% number. The WH press release showed 28%. And then I heard he got H&R Block to help sign up people when they went in there to do their taxes.

CoffeeLover on April 18, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Davidk–heh, see what I mean?

Doc Holliday on April 18, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Here’s the list of jobs with the highest rates of psychopathy:

A1. Registered Hot Air Commenter
1. CEO
2. Lawyer
3. Media (Television/Radio)

Axe on April 18, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Addendum.

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 8:20 PM

I will see your psychopathy and raise you one!

climbnjump on April 18, 2014 at 8:29 PM

And Barky still won’t say how many have paid and how many are on Medicaid.

Philly on April 18, 2014 at 8:30 PM

What the administration has not told us is how many of those 19 million people already had coverage and lost it because of the Affordable Care Act. Or how many of them would have been covered by insurance this year and changed plans to get a big subsidy. Or how many of them thought they were going to get a better health plan but found out that their doctor is not in the network. Or how many of them spent more on insurance than they felt they could afford because there were no lower-cost alternatives. Or how many will find out that the taxpayer subsidy they are receiving will turn out to be too high—they might get a raise in a few months or work some overtime and will make a little too much money this year, or it might just be that the government’s computers didn’t get it right—and will have to repay the Treasury hundreds and perhaps thousands of dollars?

How about answer to these questions, you lyin’ wonder.

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Or how many were enrolled en route to parole.

Philly on April 18, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Axe on April 18, 2014 at 8:27 PM

I will answer if you really want to know. Guess first for fun.

HonestLib on April 18, 2014 at 8:32 PM

docflash on April 18, 2014 at 8:22 PM

we got a similar ad running down here too.

Can you believe he used toddlers in his equation of those under 35 now enrolled to get his 35% number. The WH press release showed 28%. And then I heard he got H&R Block to help sign up people when they went in there to do their taxes.

CoffeeLover on April 18, 2014 at 8:29 PM

The H&R Block dude tried to sign up my wife.

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 8:32 PM

Any word yet as to how many of this supposed 8 million have paid?

The lapdog media accepts anything the Obama Regime says because to question it would be “racist.”

bw222 on April 18, 2014 at 8:33 PM

They are so predictable. I warned months ago that they would claim that enrollment numbers equaled success.

Pass a law making compliance with A mandatory. When citizens abide by the law (in many cases against their will) claim that it is because A is popular and ‘working.’

Only in Prog World does the fact that a captive audience is forced to endure elevator music in some buildings make elevator music ‘popular.’

Even if I qualified for a 150% subsidy to purchase a Cadillac plan with the excess funds being a gift for me for behaving, I would still ADAMANTLY oppose the law and seek its repeal.

Resist We Much on April 18, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Happy Easter, davidk. :)

Axe on April 18, 2014 at 8:27 PM

He is risen!

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 8:35 PM

My niece is one of those young kids who’ve now enrolled in Obamacare.

Her position: It’s completely free for me, and I’d be a fool not to, if only because they will penalize me on my income taxes if I don’t.

Except it isn’t so free; she’s in a Bronze plan with a $6500 deductible. Lucky for her she’s in good health, or she’d never be able to afford hospitalization. And we taxpayers are the payers, through both our state taxes and the new Obamacare excise taxes on our own healthcare plans.

It is the death of a million hamsters. Sad.

unclesmrgol on April 18, 2014 at 8:28 PM

OK. Here’s the thing. If she doesn’t sign up, it will cost her on her taxes, correct?

Now, as it stands, she qualifies for a 100% subsidy, yes?

OK. Deductible aside, doesn’t signing up for, in her case, free, save her money that she’d otherwise have to pay on her taxes?

From what I understand, there are no plans offered by insurance companies other than those obama-approved.

I guess what I am figuring is she can sign up for obamacare, have a deductible and pay NOTHING or not sign up, PAY money on her taxes and if she uses the hospital,have to pay FULL price.

Sounds to me like a sweet deal. Assuming no other health plans can be sold anywhere, anytime, anyhow.

Lanceman on April 18, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Only in Prog World does the fact that a captive audience is forced to endure elevator music in some buildings make elevator music ‘popular.’

Resist We Much on April 18, 2014 at 8:35 PM

^ That’s excellent.

Axe on April 18, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Any word yet as to how many of this supposed 8 million have paid?

The lapdog media accepts anything the Obama Regime says because to question it would be “racist.”

bw222 on April 18, 2014 at 8:33 PM

But the final enrollment figure remains to be seen: The White House has not released how many people have fully enrolled, which requires paying their first premium.

http://wqad.com/2014/04/18/8-million-sign-up-for-obamacare/

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 8:41 PM

I’m not believing the 8 million.

rbj on April 18, 2014 at 8:05 PM

…it’s a stretch for me…to even believe 3 to 5 million…and those numbers are probably just people checking out the site.

KOOLAID2 on April 18, 2014 at 8:42 PM

I will answer if you really want to know. Guess first for fun.

HonestLib on April 18, 2014 at 8:32 PM

You’re a unique individual, HonestLib. And coming from me, that bloody well means something. :)

. . . I’m not guessing anything. I durst not.

Axe on April 18, 2014 at 8:42 PM

1. CREO

Axe on April 18, 2014 at 8:10 PM

To heck with all y’all.

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 8:42 PM

<– BBL

Axe on April 18, 2014 at 8:42 PM

And then I heard he got H&R Block to help sign up people when they went in there to do their taxes.

CoffeeLover on April 18, 2014 at 8:29 PM

The H&R Block dude tried to sign up my wife.

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 8:32 PM

They didn’t try to sign me up. I went in b!tching about obama so I guess they knew better. This will be the last year I use Block. Had I known, I’d have done them myself.

Lanceman on April 18, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Turn Texas Blue ‏@UniteBlueTX

8 Million Have Signed Up for Private Health Coverage http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2014/04/17/president-obama-8-million-people-have-signed-private-health-coverage#.U1CvDmYIb7Y.twitter … Expand Medicaid @GovernorPerry! #ACA pic.twitter.com/WxM6NCcmqS

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 8:45 PM

As usual RWM…excellent

CoffeeLover on April 18, 2014 at 8:45 PM

And coming from me, that bloody well means something. :)

Axe on April 18, 2014 at 8:42 PM

It does.

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 8:46 PM

He is risen!

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 8:35 PM

He is RISEN, Indeed, Alleluia!

OmahaConservative on April 18, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Bye Rs

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2014 at 8:47 PM

rbj on April 18, 2014 at 8:05 PM

…it’s a stretch for me…to even believe 3 to 5 million…and those numbers are probably just people checking out the site.

KOOLAID2 on April 18, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Koolaid2 you made my day with the comment to darkcurrent. Too funny.

hawkdriver on April 18, 2014 at 8:47 PM

I’d love love love to ram my fist through that phucking grill of his.

msupertas on April 18, 2014 at 8:48 PM

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 8:45 PM

they (progs) are doing the full court press on Governor Scott for not expanding Medicaid.

CoffeeLover on April 18, 2014 at 8:48 PM

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Too bad they don’t let you comment on WhiteHouse.gov…..

Barred on April 18, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Koolaid2 you made my day with the comment to darkcurrent. Too funny.

hawkdriver on April 18, 2014 at 8:47 PM

?

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Koolaid2 you made my day with the comment to darkcurrent. Too funny.

hawkdriver on April 18, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Link, please.

Lanceman on April 18, 2014 at 8:48 PM

I didn’t sign up and I didn’t file.

wolly4321 on April 18, 2014 at 8:49 PM

Axe on April 18, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Kewl…I’m a Psycho! I knew it. ;)

bazil9 on April 18, 2014 at 8:49 PM

I thought I saw something about K2 getting the boot.

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 8:49 PM

they (progs) are doing the full court press on Governor Scott for not expanding Medicaid.

CoffeeLover on April 18, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Hey! That’s my Governor!

I wonder how a Governor McCollum would have handled this.

Lanceman on April 18, 2014 at 8:50 PM

bazil9 on April 18, 2014 at 8:49 PM

Most of us already knew that.

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 8:50 PM

The Azzhole in Chief said “33% of the enrolees are 35 and younger”.

This means that he ‘counts’ the 26 and younger children and the 40% of youth he needed to “make it a success, at a minimum”.

You figure this math out – math for idiots.

Nation of idiots, in the majority. Sheep are smarter.

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2014 at 8:50 PM

From the above tweet: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BleoGCmCIAEcvJJ.jpg

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 8:50 PM

I thought I saw something about K2 getting the boot.

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 8:49 PM

I should have known better when Ed didn’t actually say user banned!

Lanceman on April 18, 2014 at 8:50 PM

the 26 and younger children and as the 40% of youth he needed to

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Koolaid2, can I link to it for them?

hawkdriver on April 18, 2014 at 8:51 PM

B9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(waving)

CoffeeLover on April 18, 2014 at 8:51 PM

bazil9 on April 18, 2014 at 8:49 PM

Most of us already knew that.

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Well, now the noobies are aware.

bazil9 on April 18, 2014 at 8:51 PM

B9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(waving)

CoffeeLover on April 18, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Hey lady! ~~~~~~waves

bazil9 on April 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM

I thought I saw something about K2 getting the boot.

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 8:49 PM

I think Ed did take him to the woodshed.

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM

I think Ed did take him to the woodshed.

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM

For what?

OmahaConservative on April 18, 2014 at 8:54 PM

bazil9 on April 18, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Its noob there Belinda.

Noobie sounds to much like boobie. And its hard enough to keep Axie, Lancie and Sparky out of the gutter as it is.

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Kewl…I’m a Psycho! I knew it. ;)

bazil9 on April 18, 2014 at 8:49 PM

It’s ok, we still love you… <— swats B9's tush…

oscarwilde on April 18, 2014 at 8:54 PM

I’m sticking with noobie. :P

bazil9 on April 18, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Where is Paper Girl?

OmahaConservative on April 18, 2014 at 8:56 PM


Tree top flyer

wolly4321 on April 18, 2014 at 8:57 PM

I think Ed did take him to the woodshed.

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM

For what?

OmahaConservative on April 18, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Check page 1 of the “Protip from Reid thread.”

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 8:57 PM

bazil9 on April 18, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Dirty girl

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 8:57 PM

oscarwilde on April 18, 2014 at 8:54 PM

<———-inserts devilish grin ;)

bazil9 on April 18, 2014 at 8:57 PM

bazil9 on April 18, 2014 at 8:49 PM

Most of us already knew that.

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 8:50 PM

*raises hand*

Axe on April 18, 2014 at 8:57 PM

I’m sticking with noobie. :P

bazil9 on April 18, 2014 at 8:55 PM

I’m shocked… shocked I tell you… <— Insert devious laughter here…

oscarwilde on April 18, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Do you love me
Do you paper girl
Paper girl paper girl
My little paper girl

Lanceman on April 18, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Noobie sounds to much like boobie. And its hard enough to keep Axie, Lancie and Sparky out of the gutter as it is.

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 8:54 PM

I love those. So, so much. I can’t help it. I even whimpered a little this morning when I took my gummy vitamins.

. . . I may not . . . I may not survive this.

Axe on April 18, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Dirty girl

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Hawt! ;)

bazil9 on April 18, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Did somebody say boobie???

climbnjump on April 18, 2014 at 9:01 PM

So, is KA2 banned or not?

OmahaConservative on April 18, 2014 at 9:02 PM

My little paper girl

Lanceman on April 18, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Paper girl?

Don’t you mean..

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 9:02 PM

I just saw KA2…wha?

bazil9 on April 18, 2014 at 9:02 PM

So, is KA2 banned or not?

OmahaConservative on April 18, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Not.

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 9:02 PM

They are so predictable. I warned months ago that they would claim that enrollment numbers equaled success.

Pass a law making compliance with A mandatory. When citizens abide by the law (in many cases against their will) claim that it is because A is popular and ‘working.’

Only in Prog World does the fact that a captive audience is forced to endure elevator music in some buildings make elevator music ‘popular.’

Even if I qualified for a 150% subsidy to purchase a Cadillac plan with the excess funds being a gift for me for behaving, I would still ADAMANTLY oppose the law and seek its repeal.

Resist We Much on April 18, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Agreed.
To sum up the progressive mindset,”Beatings will continue until morale improves!”

Doc Holliday on April 18, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Paper girl?

Don’t you mean..

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 9:02 PM

No, I mean Paper Girl.

Lanceman on April 18, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Hawt! ;)

bazil9 on April 18, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Not.

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 9:02 PM

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Mr. Obama is right to insist that continued Republican demands for repeal are unproductive and unwise…

Based on what? Numbers provided by ‘the most transparent administration, evah’?

Here’s a thought, just wait until this fall when the new premium notices go out.

Can you say “Death Spiral”?

GarandFan on April 18, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Hawt! ;)

bazil9 on April 18, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Not.

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 9:02 PM

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Now cut that out.

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Oh heck you net nanny ninnies, get off topic already.

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 9:05 PM

And to think I thought Daschle was as bad as it could get.

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 10:36 AM

Then you wait for Majority Leader Schumer.

Lanceman on April 18, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Now cut that out.

davidk on April 18, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Sorry, can’t hep it (as Ann Richards would say).

I’m in a mood.

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 9:06 PM

OmahaConservative on April 18, 2014 at 9:02 PM

He’s not. He’s commented in this thread.

hawkdriver on April 18, 2014 at 9:06 PM

I’m wearing my invisible suit.

The feds can’t see me.

wolly4321 on April 18, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Then you wait for Majority Leader Schumer.

Why not majority leader Satan? It’s almost the same thing.

Doc Holliday on April 18, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Still can’t find where Foolaid laid the smackdown on DorkCurrent.

Lanceman on April 18, 2014 at 9:08 PM

wolly4321 on April 18, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Um, that’s what you think.

Those of us watching you need eye bleach.

cozmo on April 18, 2014 at 9:09 PM

OmahaConservative on April 18, 2014 at 9:02 PM

He’s not. He’s commented in this thread.

hawkdriver on April 18, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Or maybe Allahpundit/Ed have taken over his account and are spying on us in order to find was of corrupting our precious bodily fluids… <— Insert maniacal laughter here…

oscarwilde on April 18, 2014 at 9:09 PM

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