Boehner reassures GOP donors: I’m “hellbent” on passing immigration reform this year

posted at 12:01 pm on April 18, 2014 by Allahpundit

A big gamble if true, but not a crazy one. He’s betting that nothing the GOP does, up to and including amnesty, will enrage grassroots conservatives so much that they’re likely to stay home in protest in November because of it. Anger at ObamaCare trumps all. When the dust settles, after a week or two of talk radio calling Boehner a traitor for passing an immigration bill and vowing to go third party, everyone will swallow hard and decide that they have no choice but to vote for the GOP anyway in the name of stopping O-Care. The redder the Senate turns next year, the greater the odds of repeal in 2017. Although if they’d sell you out on immigration, I’m not sure why you’d think they won’t sell you out on that too when the time comes.

As much as I suspect an immigration deal under these circumstances will inevitably be terrible, I also think Boehner’s bet is a shrewd one. In fact, I’ll place a bet of my own: If they pass something along the lines of the Gang of Eight bill and I end up writing a bunch of posts in October exhorting people to boycott the midterms because of it, some commenters will be calling me a traitor.

Speaker John Boehner and other senior House Republicans are telling donors and industry groups that they aim to pass immigration legislation this year, despite the reluctance of many Republicans to tackle the divisive issue before the November elections.

Many lawmakers and activists have assumed the issue was off the table in an election year. But Mr. Boehner said at a Las Vegas fundraiser last month he was “hellbent on getting this done this year,” according to two people in the room…

Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R., Fla.) also is drafting legislation that would give qualifying undocumented immigrants legal status and the chance to apply for citizenship through existing channels. The bill includes border-security measures and an effort to clear the backlog of applications for permanent legal status, known as green cards.

House leaders have told Mr. Diaz-Balart to have the legislation ready to go for possible debate in June or July, an aide said.

The thinking here, per the Journal, is that trying to pass something on immigration next year will be even harder than it is this year so they’d better suck it up and do it now. If Republicans take back the Senate, Chuck Grassley ends up in charge of the Judiciary Committee — and he’s a much bigger obstacle to amnesty than Pat Leahy and Harry Reid are. In other words, the House GOP needs to make a deal with Senate Democrats now in the name of disempowering other Republicans. Which, actually, makes perfect sense if you believe (as I have all along) that GOP leaders are determined to pass something on immigration before the next presidential vote, to impress Latinos. It doesn’t have to be this year but it does have to be before November 2016, in which case all we’re really debating is timing. If they think there’s any chance that waiting until next year could mean not passing a bill at all before 2016, then yeah, they’ll move this year despite the risk of angering their base before the midterms. Ultimately it’s more important to appease pro-amnesty Latinos than anti-amnesty conservatives, for the simple reason that you’ll eventually come around and vote Republican again. Latinos might not.

One thing I don’t get, though: If Boehner — and Cantor — really are this serious about passing something soon, why would Obama make their job harder by further relaxing his policies on deportation? Even a modest tweak to the rules to appease amnesty fans on his left will give conservatives something new to point to as proof that Obama can’t be trusted to enforce the law and thus reform should be postponed until 2017. You would think that O, being sensitive to that, would back off from any new executive moves for now in order to give Boehner as much political space as possible. Maybe the White House believes that it’s because Obama’s been rattling his saber on deportations that Boehner’s rushing to beat him to the punch with a new bill, but that’s goofy. No one, including immigration paranoiacs like me and Mickey Kaus, think O’s about to make things even harder for Democrats in the midterms by announcing a broad executive amnesty. If he does anything, it’ll be a small change designed purely to pander to liberals. Boehner doesn’t need to leap because of that.

Just to refresh your memory, here’s the man himself back in February warning that there can’t be a deal on reform if the GOP can’t trust O on border security. Two months later, Obama’s talking about making enforcement weaker — and yet Boehner’s reportedly more determined than ever to pass something. It’s almost as if this was a giant lie designed to falsely reassure conservatives while a deal was quietly being worked out. I wonder what that deal will look like.


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Get bent, Boehner.

thatsafactjack on April 18, 2014 at 12:04 PM

He’s betting that nothing the GOP does, up to and including amnesty, will enrage grassroots conservatives so much that they’re likely to stay home in protest in November because of it.

Speaking on behalf of myself only, he’s wrong.

BKeyser on April 18, 2014 at 12:05 PM

He’s betting that nothing the GOP does, up to and including amnesty, will enrage grassroots conservatives so much that they’re likely to stay home in protest in November because of it.

I’m betting Boehner’s removed from his leadership role….Now! They will stay home.

Rovin on April 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Not a dimes worth of difference.

sharrukin on April 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Boehner, Cantor and all the RINO’s have to go……….They are no better than Democrats! I will sit home if they elect a RINO to run in 2016…………………

nobama1267 on April 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Not happening whatsoever until the new congress is sworn in come 2015. This is just posturing for $$$ from their Big Amnesty donors until then. Book it.

cdog0613 on April 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM

If they pass something along the lines of the Gang of Eight bill and I end up writing a bunch of posts in October exhorting people to boycott the midterms because of it, some commenters will be calling me a traitor.

A few, but surprisingly few.

vlad martel on April 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM

If the GOP passes AMNESTY, I’m done with them. Why would I vote for the GOP when they’re passing the Democrat’s agenda?

More promises to ‘repeal’ Obamacare… while they go about carving out concessions for business.

More promises to secure the border and enforce the law… while they go about passing AMNESTY for president who has effectively opened our borders wide open and done away with immigration law.

The GOP be damned.

thatsafactjack on April 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM

But then what you’re saying is the best we can expect from them is neutrality — doing nothing — rather than outright destructiveness. That’s not good either.

vlad martel on April 18, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Invasion for real.

David Blue on April 18, 2014 at 12:11 PM

He’s betting that nothing the GOP does, up to and including amnesty, will enrage grassroots conservatives so much that they’re likely to stay home in protest in November because of it.

That’s a bad bet.

Not that it will matter, anyway. There will be a permanent Democrat majority in both houses of Congress and a Democrat lock on the White House for decades to come as Hispanics “reward” the GOP for passing amnesty – so me staying home or voting third party won’t matter.

DRayRaven on April 18, 2014 at 12:12 PM

If the GOP passes AMNESTY, I’m done with them. Why would I vote for the GOP when they’re passing the Democrat’s agenda?

If GOP passed amnesty, it would be done as a party anyway. Hey, the leadership is already cozy with the dems, so they’d be pretty much at home in that party, sein’ as how much more it has in common with them than the GOP base.

hawkeye54 on April 18, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Oh, and by the way – Boehner, Cantor, et al disgust me just as much as Obama and Reid.

DRayRaven on April 18, 2014 at 12:14 PM

If Intrade still existed and you could bet on whether amnesty passes this year, I’d still bet against it.

Jon0815 on April 18, 2014 at 12:14 PM

If the GOP thinks anyone but Obama will get “credit” with “Hispanics” for passing “immigration reform” they are fools.

DaTechGuy on DaRadio on April 18, 2014 at 12:11 PM

They ARE fools…..but financially well compensated ones.

hawkeye54 on April 18, 2014 at 12:14 PM

He’s betting that nothing the GOP does, up to and including amnesty, will enrage grassroots conservatives so much that they’re likely to stay home in protest in November because of it. Anger at ObamaCare trumps all. When the dust settles, after a week or two of talk radio calling Boehner a traitor for passing an immigration bill and vowing to go third party, everyone will swallow hard and decide that they have no choice but to vote for the GOP anyway in the name of stopping O-Care.

Ultimately it’s more important to appease pro-amnesty Latinos than anti-amnesty conservatives, for the simple reason that you’ll eventually come around and vote Republican again.

I keep having to say this, but I’ll repeat it one more time. If the GOP passes amnesty, I will never vote for a Republican again. At any level of government. Not just in this election cycle. EVER!!!

Now maybe I represent a small minority. Maybe the GOP figures it’s worth the risk alienating a tiny portion of their base in order to appease Latinos and the Republican Party’s fat cat donors who want cheap labor. But even a small minority staying home can still cost you dearly in an election. Look at what happened to Romney in 2012. Nearly 61 million people voted for him. But it was the 4 million who stayed home that made the difference in Obama getting reelected.

And keep in mind, Romney never stabbed the base in the back the way Boehner seems to be flirting with. Sure, there was a trust issue with Mitt especially with regard to Obamacare. But you didn’t have conservatives seething with rage at the guy. Just disenchanted and worried that he would be too moderate and squishy if elected to office. Boehner is playing with fire here.

Doughboy on April 18, 2014 at 12:15 PM

Could they pass a “Cliven Bundy Amnesty”? It’s the same issue isn’t it?

oldroy on April 18, 2014 at 12:16 PM

Does he mean, Hell bound?

Fallon on April 18, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Although if they’d sell you out on immigration, I’m not sure why you’d think they won’t sell you out on that too when the time comes.

Why not indeed?

In about twenty years, if things go on like this, white conservatives are going to realize that through the treacherous actions of the GOP, they are permanently outnumbered and outvoted, and that their rulers are masters, not just “government,” and that those masters mean to loot them, tyrannize them and flood them with ever more foreigners till forced assimilation means that the American nation will utterly and forever cease to exist.

Given that that’s coming, who cares about empty promises about things like Obamacare? No promises will be kept to doomed people.

David Blue on April 18, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Has Boehner or McConnell made a single statement about the latest IRS revelations? But he can find time to reiterate his ironbound determination to pass amnesty.

Unbelievable. We don’t have an opposition party. We have a bunch of pathologically self-loathing JV Progressives.

rrpjr on April 18, 2014 at 12:17 PM

everyone will swallow hard and decide that they have no choice but to vote for the GOP anyway in the name of stopping O-Care.

Because that worked so well in 2012.

clearbluesky on April 18, 2014 at 12:17 PM

It would sure be nice to have a GOP leadership with ethics, morales, a sense of being American,etc.

TerryW on April 18, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Boehner…why don’t you just join Pelosi and wash the feet of some illegal immigrants as well…

PatriotRider on April 18, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Oh, and by the way – Boehner, Cantor, et al disgust me just as much as Obama and Reid.

DRayRaven on April 18, 2014 at 12:14 PM

You and me both…

PatriotRider on April 18, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Boehner and Cantor discuss immigration plans with Obama and an unidentified person

“This will not end well for us……”

BobMbx on April 18, 2014 at 12:21 PM

Ultimately it’s more important to appease pro-amnesty Latinos than anti-amnesty conservatives, for the simple reason that you’ll eventually come around and vote Republican again. Latinos might not.

This ignorance is why I’m likely done with the republican party. Pass amnesty, and it won’t matter if we eventually come around and vote republican again because we’ll be outnumbered.

xblade on April 18, 2014 at 12:22 PM

thatsafactjack on April 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM

This.

connbaby on April 18, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Of course the democrat Boehner wants this. It’s the best way to insure the democrats still control everything.

bgibbs1000 on April 18, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Relax, he’s just telling his donors what they want to hear so they’ll open their wallets. After all, it’s not like donors control policy, it’s the grassroots…bwahaha, I couldn’t hold it in.

This is why, regardless of the outcome, unlimited money in politics is not necessarily a healthy thing for our democracy; apparently there is a donation big enough for Boehner et al to trade away our borders, language and culture.

Amnesty isn’t in the works, fellows. It’s ALREADY HAPPENING. Thanks to Sheldon Adelson and the big money-men and all who go to kiss their rings and all those who brung ‘em.

Basement Dweller on April 18, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Ohio,

Can you help us out here?

TIA.

ncjetsfan on April 18, 2014 at 12:23 PM

They do this and I’m voting STRAIGHT Democrat in November.

Because if we are going to have a collapse and Revolution I’d rather get it over with now rather than delay it by a couple years.

ConstantineXI on April 18, 2014 at 12:23 PM

The Weeping Boner is hellbent, for sure.

The GOP needs to achieve its attempted political suicide as quickly as possible. There’s no reason for this despicable, Vichy party to keep dragging its useless existence on. It has wanted to die since W and McShame’s moronic aiding and abetting of illegals in 2006-2007 (which destroyed the GOP and brought the ineligible, third-world, dog-eating retard to the Oval Office) and then, when it was rescusitated in 2011 by the Tea Party turned around and stabbed us in the back trying to kill itself again. It’s about time that the GOP just fulfilled its hellbent goal of ending up in hell and let us be rid of these treasonous dirtbags.

Hellbent … Yep. That’s the GOP. Bon Voyage, traitors.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 18, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Not that I don’t think he will work hard on passing some kind of immigration reform, as he promises to these potential donors, but I don’t think that is what is really going on here.

Boehner’s big strength is fundraising. Fund. Raising. This is his real full time job. So what we really should be thinking about here, is, Who are these donors? Who holds back the big bucks for these kind of promises? Who is really jerking on the GOPe leash?

RushBaby on April 18, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Um. I have heard they are actually back tracking on this today

ConservativePartyNow on April 18, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Which, actually, makes perfect sense if you believe (as I have all along) that GOP leaders are determined to pass something on immigration before the next presidential vote, to impress Latinos. It doesn’t have to be this year but it does have to be before November 2016, in which case all we’re really debating is timing. If they think there’s any chance that waiting until next year could mean not passing a bill at all before 2016, then yeah, they’ll move this year despite the risk of angering their base before the midterms. Ultimately it’s more important to appease pro-amnesty Latinos than anti-amnesty conservatives, for the simple reason that you’ll eventually come around and vote Republican again. Latinos might not.

This is where your analysis goes wrong AP: The GOP push for amnesty isn’t really about impressing Latinos. They aren’t that dumb, they know that amnesty isn’t going to change many Latino votes. This is about the big $$$ donors and their lust for cheap labor. Which is why amnesty isn’t as likely as you think it is.

If you think this is really about the Latino vote, then imagine that the donor class was strongly anti-amnesty, or evenly split. Would there still be the big amnesty push? Of course not.

Jon0815 on April 18, 2014 at 12:25 PM

“This will not end well for us……”

BobMbx on April 18, 2014 at 12:21 PM

For “us”, it isn’t intended to end well. We don’t matter to those conspiring together in this.

hawkeye54 on April 18, 2014 at 12:26 PM

ConstantineXI on April 18, 2014 at 12:23 PM

It doesn’t matter if the Vichy GOP do anything or not. THey’ve made perfectly clear what they stand for (giving aid and comfort tot he illegal invasion) and that’s more than enough. I’m not waiting around for anything else from these despicable, lying scumbags in the Vichy GOP. I’m not voting Dem but I’m not voting GOP for anything, either.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 18, 2014 at 12:26 PM

Um. I have heard they are actually back tracking on this today

ConservativePartyNow on April 18, 2014 at 12:24 PM

What, the roaches are scattering when caught in the light?

hawkeye54 on April 18, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Ohio,

Can you help us out here?

TIA.

ncjetsfan on April 18, 2014 at 12:23 PM

Won’t matter. Even if he’s voted out the weasel will almost certainly pass this in the lame duck session.

Which is why when we convene the Article V convention, one of the things that needs to change is making “lame duck” post-election sessions of Congress illegal. Congress should be adjourned on Election Day and not be allowed to meet again until the post-election Congress is seated.

ConstantineXI on April 18, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Pass amnesty. Do it! I will enjoy watching the GOP lose big in the midterms. To hell with them all.

Jack_Burton on April 18, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Although if they’d sell you out on immigration, I’m not sure why you’d think they won’t sell you out on that [Obamacare] too when the time comes.

The GOP has no interest in repealing Obamacare. The GOP has never been about reducing the size of government or limiting government power.

F*** the GOP. The only political organiztion or candidate I will ever give money to will be Jim DeMint-affiliated.

M240H on April 18, 2014 at 12:28 PM

If the GOP thinks anyone but Obama will get “credit” with “Hispanics” for passing “immigration reform” they are fools.

DaTechGuy on DaRadio

They don’t believe that. They’re hoping we’re the fools who believe it.

xblade on April 18, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Um. I have heard they are actually back tracking on this today

ConservativePartyNow on April 18, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Well of course they are. Openly declaring support for amnesty is too blunt a move when the majority of Americans do not support amnesty. This is the kind of thing that they’ll have to sneak into the NDAA or otherwise slide through.

Happy Nomad on April 18, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Um. I have heard they are actually back tracking on this today

ConservativePartyNow on April 18, 2014 at 12:24 PM

What’s to backtrack on? This is about the thousandth time the Weeper and his henchmen have tried to push giving aid and comfort to the invading illegals. This is what the Vichy GOP is all about. They are representing invaders of America against the citizenry. They’ve pushed this too hard and for too long to ever be able to backtrack on what we know they’ve been doing – and they are too stupid to even stop saying that they are trying to commit this treason.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 18, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Not a dimes worth of difference.

sharrukin on April 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Very true. Boehner, Cantor and McCarthy are just starters for the Washington Generals (the stooge team that loses to the Harlem Globetrotters).

bw222 on April 18, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Um. I have heard they are actually back tracking on this today

ConservativePartyNow on April 18, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Indeed: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/18/immigration-still-hold-boehners-office/

I mean: he was at a huge fundraiser with probably a lot of Big Amnesty donors there. Obviously he’s gonna play that up for them. Boehner may be an AWFUL speaker, but he’s not a total moron. He wants to maintain and gain power above anything, and he knows full and well that if they ram through an immigration bill this year…BEFORE the frickin midterms, it would be political suicide.

cdog0613 on April 18, 2014 at 12:30 PM

By hell bent, does he mean lighting himself on fire, getting on his chopper then speeding down the highway until he crashes?

jake49 on April 18, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Did the GOP get credit when Reagan passed amnesty? Did Hispanics vote for them in droves? Did passing amnesty help the GOP politically in any way possible after the 86 amnesty?

NO.

Jack_Burton on April 18, 2014 at 12:31 PM

If the GOP thinks anyone but Obama will get “credit” with “Hispanics” for passing “immigration reform” they are fools.

DaTechGuy on DaRadio

The Republican Party got the Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed, not the Democrats, yet they get no credit for it. Instead, history has been re-written to characterize “stand in the schoolhouse door” racist DEMOCRATS as Republicans.

Amnesty will result in Republicans being a PERMANENT minority party and a century (at least) of a single-party State. But the GOPe leaders don’t care if they only have 12 in the House and 2 in the Senate, so long as THEY are running the party!

ConstantineXI on April 18, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Obama does not want a bill so much as he wants an issue right now (although long term, they do want passage but on their terms). I doubt that anything the current House would pass would pass in Harry Reid’s Senate or get signed at the white house. If the GOP passes nothing, they will be labeled racist, anti-immigrant and obstructionist. Passing a reasonable bill that will never become law costs only some base enthusiasm. OTOH, I am sure they will wait until after the primaries to pass this as incombents do not want a primary challenge from the right.

KW64 on April 18, 2014 at 12:33 PM

If they pass something along the lines of the Gang of Eight bill and I end up writing a bunch of posts in October exhorting people to boycott the midterms because of it, some commenters will be calling me a traitor.

A few, but surprisingly few.

vlad martel on April 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM

The usual suspects.

Lanceman on April 18, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Hellbent on getting to the bottom of Benghazi? Not so much.

rrpjr on April 18, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Boehner may be an AWFUL speaker, but he’s not a total moron.

cdog0613 on April 18, 2014 at 12:30 PM

The Weeping crybaby is a moron. And a flat-out traitor. He should be removed from the Weepership, ejected from Congress, deported from the nation, and shot into a collapsing orbit around the sun.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 18, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Which, actually, makes perfect sense if you believe (as I have all along) that GOP leaders are determined to pass something on immigration before the next presidential vote, to impress Latinos.

If they were doing it to impress Latinos, then why are they promising to get rid of Obamacare that Latinos love? Maybe they’re going to replace it with full blown government run universal health care. Gotta do it to impress Latinos ya know.

xblade on April 18, 2014 at 12:34 PM

OT:

I can’t explain it, but there is something…. satisfying…. about this photo.

BobMbx on April 18, 2014 at 12:35 PM

. If Republicans take back the Senate, Chuck Grassley ends up in charge of the Judiciary Committee — and he’s a much bigger obstacle to amnesty than Pat Leahy and Harry Reid are.

McConnell et. al. will steam roll this over Grassley come 2015 once a House bill gets sent over.

cdog0613 on April 18, 2014 at 12:38 PM

The Dim Weeper thinks if he passes amnesty he’ll get 72 illegal aliens to care for his lawn and pool.

Flange on April 18, 2014 at 12:39 PM

He’s headed to retirement in Marco Island, FL…please hurry.

d1carter on April 18, 2014 at 12:40 PM

If the GOP passes nothing, they will be labeled racist, anti-immigrant and obstructionist. Passing a reasonable bill that will never become law costs only some base enthusiasm.

KW64

And we still get called racists, anti-immigrant and obstructionists. But yeah,let’s pass bills so democrats won’t call us names. What could possibly go wrong, lol.

xblade on April 18, 2014 at 12:40 PM

CRASH AND BURN YOU WORTHLESS POS

GOP IS WORTHLESS

WisCon on April 18, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Doubling down on weakness doesn’t impress me. Without border security, immigration “reform” is useless.
Ad extremum, why not just admit that all 7 billion people on the face of the earth have U.S. Constitutional rights and get it over with? Then Holder can tell us why he can’t enforce the rights of all those billions of people, and needs more lawyers to fly around serving subpoenas to dictators, and we need to raise taxes to pay for it, etc., etc., etc…..
Then all our rights will be gone, expect for our 2nd Amendment. That would start the cure.
Even if Boehner does this, GOP won’t get the credit. Why not just point out that Obammy won’t enforce it and bury the subject until he’s gone, constantly pointing out that he doesn’t follow existing law anyway?

DublOh7 on April 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM

He’s betting that nothing the GOP does, up to and including amnesty, will enrage grassroots conservatives so much that they’re likely to stay home in protest in November because of it.

Shouldn’t a Republican speaker of the house be a grassroots conservative? Democrats have no problem putting the farthest left people in the highest positions.

Dongemaharu on April 18, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Boehner may be an AWFUL speaker, but he’s not a total moron. He wants to maintain and gain power above anything, and he knows full and well that if they ram through an immigration bill this year…BEFORE the frickin midterms, it would be political suicide.

cdog0613 on April 18, 2014 at 12:30 PM

He wants to continue raking in the cash and these guys are the ones supplying the cash. Boehner will get his cash filled envelope if the GOP wins, or if they lose.

sharrukin on April 18, 2014 at 12:45 PM

If they vote for amnesty that means they are giving the big F U to the base and will not support stopping Obamacare. What part don’t you get?

njrob on April 18, 2014 at 12:45 PM

A big gamble if true, but not a crazy one. He’s betting that nothing the GOP does, up to and including amnesty, will enrage grassroots conservatives so much that they’re likely to stay home in protest in November because of it. Anger at ObamaCare trumps all. When the dust settles, after a week or two of talk radio calling Boehner a traitor for passing an immigration bill and vowing to go third party, everyone will swallow hard and decide that they have no choice but to vote for the GOP anyway in the name of stopping O-Care. The redder the Senate turns next year, the greater the odds of repeal in 2017. Although if they’d sell you out on immigration, I’m not sure why you’d think they won’t sell you out on that too when the time comes.

As much as this pisses me off, I can’t argue with a single word of it. Allah’s right, and Boehner’s probably right, too. The only question will be who do we blame for our rage at the lawlessness of Boehner and his fellow RINOs? Surely not the person running in our district who is either not in the House now or voted against it.

Big gamble, but to the RINOs who believe we can’t win the White House without an amnesty bill, it is probably worth it. Here in my half-black Chicago south suburban Gerry-rigged congressional district, I would have to light myself on fire at the polling place to have an effect on anything, and both parties know it.

Jaibones on April 18, 2014 at 12:46 PM

His spokescrapweasel retreats - DO NOT BE FOOLED.

All amnesty shills are traitors to the USA, her laws, her children and all legal immigrants and workers.

Go to Hell all amnesty-shills, into the 10th layer. The 9th is too cold for you.

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2014 at 12:51 PM

If they pass something along the lines of the Gang of Eight bill and I end up writing a bunch of posts in October exhorting people to boycott the midterms because of it, some commenters will be calling me a traitor.

We’re not the traitors, Allahpundit.

Those who put their own career interests, and the interests of their donors, ahead of the best interests of the constituents they were duly sworn to represent by proxy, and before even the rule of law and the best interest of the nation, earn that appellation.

If they do call you ‘traitor’, they’ll be calling a great many of us here ‘traitor’, too… while you are somewhat restricted by your status as blogger/editor of this site… we, the rabble, enjoy somewhat more freedom… and they still have to face us here when it’s over…and explain themselves.

thatsafactjack on April 18, 2014 at 12:52 PM

If the GOP does this, I will indeed stay home in 2014, AND 2016, as it obviously makes no difference who is in power.

Curmudgeon on April 18, 2014 at 12:53 PM

A big gamble if true, but not a crazy one. He’s betting that nothing the GOP does, up to and including amnesty, will enrage grassroots conservatives so much that they’re likely to stay home in protest in November because of it.

Wow, they are slowwwwwwwwwwww learners. They pass an amnesty bill and I don’t vote. If we’re going to have liberal rule, it doesn’t matter which party is in power. They are seriously underestimating the conservative base of their Party.

cajunpatriot on April 18, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Boehner lies as much as obama.

Reid, the thug, said that Mr. Bundy “didn’t pay his taxes”, not true.

obama said “33% of obama’care’ signups are under 35″.

That counts all the ‘kids’, 26 and under, in their mommies aprons, the ones over 21…and makes obama a liar about “we need at least 40% of 27 and older, to sustain obama’care’. Also, where did he get the numbers, if the media-worms-in-his-azz can’t?

Boehner lies about amnesty.

Choke, all of you shills.

Pelosi literally wasched the feet of the illegal aliens. If the pope had substance he’d let her have it on abortion. In time he’ll come around on that too.

Beck now thinks he’s the new Messiah. Move over obama.

Other thant that, have a Good Friday.

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2014 at 12:55 PM

All amnesty shills are traitors to the USA, her laws, her children and all legal immigrants and workers.

Go to Hell all amnesty-shills, into the 10th layer. The 9th is too cold for you.

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2014 at 12:51 PM

The traitors are the ones, like yourself, who support an illegal invasion of our country. You are the very definition of the word.

cajunpatriot on April 18, 2014 at 12:55 PM

will enrage grassroots conservatives so much that they’re likely to stay home in protest in November because of it. Anger at ObamaCare trumps all.

But if we feel we can’t trust the GOP to not screw us over on amnesty why would anyone think they wouldn’t shaft us on Obamacare? For all we know Boehner may be trying to pull both over on us. He’s danced around all the topics so much who knows what he supports now?

The base is of little interest to the GOP when they have special interest groups to pander to.

katiejane on April 18, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Guess the millions of republicans that sat home last cycle wasn’t goo enough for the intrenched rino’s. There is still plenty of time for them to “blow” this upcoming election and they seem to be working real hard at it.

De Oppresso Liber on April 18, 2014 at 12:58 PM

Immigration reform ≠ amnesty.

Like almost all of the federal code and regulations, the immigration laws are unwieldy, poorly drafted, contradictory, out of date, and selectively enforced.

I would support a reform that rips out the bureaucracy, aligns legal immigration with the actual needs of businesses, our country, and the 21st century.

I could support an “amnesty” that requires anyone here illegally to either:

serve in the armed forces for at least 8 years and receive an honorable discharge or receive a 4-year STEM degree, especially for those that came in under 18 and have the documentation to prove it.

plead guilty to a felony related to their illegal entry, or

leave and apply for citizenship via an improved, streamlined process.

NancyWhisky on April 18, 2014 at 12:58 PM

Can’t seem to trust any of them any more. The leadership is totally delusional.

poli-nana on April 18, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Why should conservatives be surprised that the GOP leadership takes them for granted? It is in their nature to doublecross us in favor of their perceived election strategy. We’ll really put it to the progressives when we get control of House, Senate, whatever. Actually, when they do get control, “Oh, we can’t do that because we have another election coming up. If we keep control then we can enact conservative changes”.

We need a rallying point, a place we can let the GOP leadership that the game is over and we are on to their bs.

How about a website, “Let It Bleed”. Vistors can pledge to sit out and the site can cite reasons why. Like the recent Doctor Fix. Or examples of all the wonderful things that were going to happen when we got control of the House, $100 billion in spending cuts, anyone?

You know who the squibs are. You don’t have to vote for a Democrat, but you don’t have to vote for them.

A squeaky wheel gets the grease.

A drunkard wants another drink of wine like a politician wants a vote
Charley Daniels

Don’t give the doublecrossing creeps one.

theo22 on April 18, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Boner and Bark will make a joint announcement. There will be an XLpipeline built from Texas to Mexico and every shadow citizen in America who can sneak back into Mexico and then sneak back into America through the air conditioned pipe line over six months, gets citizenship and a chance to guest on a popular day time program.

BL@KBIRD on April 18, 2014 at 1:01 PM

cajunpatriot on April 18, 2014 at 12:55 PM

I’m hoping that you simply mis-posted, or are just honestly mistaken in your opinion of Schadenfreude’s position.

Schadenfreude is NOT an amnesty supporter, nor does he support the presence of illegal aliens in our nation.

You owe Schadenfreude an apology.

thatsafactjack on April 18, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Um. I have heard they are actually back tracking on this today

ConservativePartyNow on April 18, 2014 at 12:24 PM

You know, I’m not sure which disgusts me more: traitors or cowards. On the other hand, with the GOPe, I probably don’t have to chose.

bofh on April 18, 2014 at 1:03 PM

The traitors are the ones, like yourself, who support an illegal invasion of our country. You are the very definition of the word.

cajunpatriot on April 18, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Get your head checked, in earnest. I oppose all illegal immigration. Period. The US is the only land which doesn’t defend its borders and sovereignty.

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2014 at 1:03 PM

He lies.

Lies kill.

Truth is life.

Seek truth.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 18, 2014 at 1:03 PM

A big gamble if true, but not a crazy one. He’s betting that nothing the GOP does, up to and including amnesty, will enrage grassroots conservatives so much that they’re likely to stay home in protest in November because of it.

Yes, that *is* a crazy bet. Grassroots conservatives are *already* on the verge of staying home because of a multitude of f*ckwitted policies the GOP have pursued and helped the Democrats with.

You – and he – can’t seriously think they can pass this amnesty plan and *not* have an open revolt in their midst.

If you – and he – think that, you’re just f*cked in the head stupid, sorry.

In other words, the House GOP needs to make a deal with Senate Democrats now in the name of disempowering other Republicans.

Oh, yeah, this changes things. You’re right obviously – something like this wouldn’t dampen conservative support for the GOP *at all*. /

Ultimately it’s more important to appease pro-amnesty Latinos than anti-amnesty conservatives, for the simple reason that you’ll eventually come around and vote Republican again.

Again, if anyone truly believes this, you’re not paying attention, and are wholly and completely misreading what is underway with GOP and conservatives right now. You couldn’t possibly be more wrong.

Midas on April 18, 2014 at 1:04 PM

To clarrify, there is NO “illegal immigration”.

There is only legal immigration. All else is usurpation, thuggery and sometimes criminality.

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2014 at 1:04 PM

They seek to build a coast to coast reservation for all of U.S..

Old dirty government blankets keep away the cold aka Obama Care.

Wage slave and vote slaves to do the dirty work.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM

All amnesty shills are traitors to the USA, her laws, her children and all legal immigrants and workers.

Go to Hell all amnesty-shills, into the 10th layer. The 9th is too cold for you.

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2014 at 12:51 PM

The traitors are the ones, like yourself, who support an illegal invasion of our country. You are the very definition of the word.

cajunpatriot on April 18, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Say what?

Schadenfreude isn’t an amnesty backer in any sense.

sharrukin on April 18, 2014 at 1:06 PM

You owe Schadenfreude an apology.

thatsafactjack on April 18, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Glad you typed that in here. I was quite puzzled by cajunpatriot’s post as well. Schad, supporting an “illegal invasion”? Complete and utter nonsense.

RushBaby on April 18, 2014 at 1:08 PM

He’s betting that nothing the GOP does, up to and including amnesty, will enrage grassroots conservatives so much that they’re likely to stay home in protest in November because of it.

Suppose every single conservative continues to vote Republican despite the amnesty. Even in that case, the Republicans will still lose every future election starting in 2020 or so thanks to the influx of millions of new Democratic voters legalized by the amnesty.

J.S.K. on April 18, 2014 at 1:09 PM

All amnesty shills are traitors to the USA, her laws, her children and all legal immigrants and workers.

Go to Hell all amnesty-shills, into the 10th layer. The 9th is too cold for you.

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2014 at 12:51 PM

The traitors are the ones, like yourself, who support an illegal invasion of our country. You are the very definition of the word.

cajunpatriot on April 18, 2014 at 12:55 PM

You might want to brush up on your reading comprehension there; I think you’re off the mark by roughly 180 degrees.

Midas on April 18, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Hey, Boehner…..yeah, you……you got one vote.
OK ?
And if you push Amnesty, then that may be all you have in 2015, one vote, as a Congress critter who used to support Mexican Nationals and not the American People.

JayTee on April 18, 2014 at 1:09 PM

There is effective action we call can take right now: support anti-amnesty candidates in the Republican primaries.

I am not panicking yet. We have only heard one side of the story, an month-old, anonymous news leak. Just yesterday majority leader Cantor said the votes aren’t there to pass amnesty. Boehner’s office said today that amnesty “won’t happen until the president builds trust and demonstrates a commitment to the rule of law”.

russvz on April 18, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Yes!!!! Finally! You guys are starting to come around. Better late than never. They are all part of the problem. Boehner, Pelosi, McConnell, Reid, Cantor, Jackson-Lee, Graham, Schumer, McCain and Durbin. They are all interchangeable. None of them care one wit about the people of this country other than their votes keep them in office.

I would also question whether anyone in the House is speaking out against Boehner.

JAGonzo on April 18, 2014 at 1:10 PM

For the most part, Boehner seems to agree with most of you:

Mr. Boehner has also adopted that stance, including in an interview with Fox News earlier this month.
“Every time the president ignores the law, like the 38 times he has on Obamacare, our members look up and go, ‘Wait a minute: You can’t have immigration reform without strong border security and internal enforcement. How can we trust the president to actually obey the law and enforce the law that we would write?’” the speaker said.

Except of course for the “no immigration law which legalizes illegal aliens” fans.

Jaibones on April 18, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Lies kill.

The deaths from illegal DWI’s who kill and escape back to Mexico and S. America are the evidence of the guilt.

100,000 illegals in Texas alone who belong to crime and drug gangs are the evidence of the crimes the two party evil money cult commit.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 18, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Suppose every single conservative continues to vote Republican despite the amnesty. Even in that case, the Republicans will still lose every future election starting in 2020 or so thanks to the influx of millions of new Democratic voters legalized by the amnesty.

J.S.K. on April 18, 2014 at 1:09 PM

This is truly and literally an existential question for conservatives and the Republican party. To make this happen is unquestionably political suicide for the party, and an acceleration of the destruction of what is left of our economy, as well as an overt confirmation that laws are optional. In fact, it could and perhaps should be considered a declaration of war against the citizens of this country, against the Constitution, against the rule of law, and against the country itself.

I will not support it with my vote.

Midas on April 18, 2014 at 1:13 PM

Evil Two Party Money Cult in Washington D.C..

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 18, 2014 at 1:14 PM

Midas on April 18, 2014, at 1:14

True, they will force a fight.

They seem to think we will just roll over.

Comes the judgement.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 18, 2014 at 1:17 PM

Amnesty will mean the death of America.
The dems will have a permanent supermajority in Congress and a perpetual Dem president. The Constitution will go bye bye in record time.

Hard Right on April 18, 2014 at 1:19 PM

Get your head checked, in earnest. I oppose all illegal immigration. Period. The US is the only land which doesn’t defend its borders and sovereignty.Schadenfreude on April 18, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Good point my friend and that shows that their motives go way beyond political. Very interesting point you made!

HonestLib on April 18, 2014 at 1:20 PM

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