Study: Yes, more immigration means more Democratic votes

posted at 4:01 pm on April 15, 2014 by Allahpundit

Fascinating, unsurprising, and unlikely to change a single mind on either side of the issue. If you’re a Republican fan of comprehensive immigration reform in the McCain mold who sees amnesty as a “gateway” issue to Latinos, nothing here will give you pause. On the contrary, it’ll prove to you that the situation’s more dire than you thought and that the pandering might have to be kicked up a notch to get immigrants to take a fair-minded look at the GOP agenda.

But it’s unfair to pick on amnesty fans here. Follow the last link and read through James Gimpel’s summary and you’ll see that the word “illegal” appears only twice. He’s not talking about illegals, he’s talking about immigrants generally, both legal and otherwise — and everyone of note in the GOP, Ted Cruz included, is in favor of robust legal immigration. (Plenty of Republican voters even support granting citizenship to illegals who are already here, contingent upon meeting certain requirements.) If Gimpel’s right, then the country’s going to turn bluer no matter how the immigration passion play in Congress plays out. The only question, depending upon how much new border security we get, is how much.

Three related findings help explain why immigration reduces the Republican vote:

Immigrants, particularly Hispanics and Asians, have policy preferences when it comes to the size and scope of government that are more closely aligned with progressives than with conservatives. As a result, survey data show a two-to-one party identification with Democrats over Republicans.

By increasing income inequality and adding to the low-income population (e.g. immigrants and their minor children account for one-fourth of those in poverty and one-third of the uninsured) immigration likely makes all voters more supportive of redistributive policies championed by Democrats to support disadvantaged populations.

There is evidence that immigration may cause more Republican-oriented voters to move away from areas of high immigrant settlement leaving behind a more lopsided Democrat majority.

It’s not just votes from immigrants themselves, in other words, that are padding Democratic totals on election day. The wider local population is itself more apt to tilt Democratic as the immigrant numbers increase, compounding the electoral effect. And of course, as a jurisdiction comes to be dominated by one party, that in itself produces compounding effects, e.g., more locals gravitate to that party because it opens doors to them to exert influence. Per Gimpel’s statistical analysis of nine separate elections, a one-percent increase in immigration in America’s 100 largest counties produced a 0.59 percent drop in the GOP’s vote share. (Since 1980, the GOP has lost six percent on average across those counties.) Across all American counties, immigration rising by one percent meant Republican vote totals dropping by 0.46 percent. In Texas, which draws more immigrants than the average state, the effect is marginally greater — a 0.51 percent drop for the GOP for every one-percent rise in immigration. If you’re worried about this from the standpoint of presidential elections specifically rather than American elections generally, that’s the number that should stick in your mind. If and when Texas turns blue, Democrats will own the White House for years to come.

Gimpel’s solution to all of this: There is none, at least not anytime soon. Nominating Latino candidates doesn’t seem to help Republicans (Ted Cruz lost the Latino vote in his Senate race two years ago, even in deep-red Texas), nor does taking different positions on illegal immigration. The only thing to do is … wait.

Ironically, past Republican votes in Congress in favor of a more generous immigration policy have unquestionably bolstered local Democratic majorities, and succeeded in stamping out Republican prospects in once politically competitive locales. This is because Republicans have not converted the legions of Democratic-leaning Latinos who constitute a large share of the immigrant population. Nor can they be expected to win over many Latinos given their weak institutional presence in the locations where new arrivals typically settle. The hope for Republican success with immigrant voters lies mainly with the upward mobility and prosperity of Latinos, Asians and others, something that will occur only with great difficulty given current levels of low-skill, wage-limiting immigration.

Wait a generation or two for low-skilled, Democratic-voting immigrants to have kids who grow up to become middle-class independents and then you’ve got a shot. In the meantime, gulp.


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But the Bushes tell me different.

Oil Can on April 15, 2014 at 4:04 PM

The GOP is doomed. Their plan will alienate their current voter base, and they, probably, won’t be able to make significant progress in gaining Hispanic votes. The GOP is dead.

DFCtomm on April 15, 2014 at 4:07 PM

I have to say here that I’m really tired of this constant chanting that everyone in the United States is an ‘immigrant’. “A nation of immigrants.”

It’s not true.

How many generations of a family have to be born on this soil, live their lives, defend this nation, have children, die and be buried in this soil, before they can be considered ‘native’?

McCain and his pals surely didn’t hesitate to condemn people as ‘nativists’ when it suited them. So, in point of fact, they tacitly acknowledged that there are a great many people in this country, the majority in fact, who are native to this nation.

So, though most families in this country originated, some generations ago, as immigrants, even ‘Native Americans’, most families in this country have long since EARNED the title, native.

thatsafactjack on April 15, 2014 at 4:07 PM

“It” will have burned down long before the majority of Latinos turn red. There just isn’t enough of other people’s money to maintain.

Deano1952 on April 15, 2014 at 4:09 PM

contingent upon meeting certain requirements

You mean those phantom taxes that will never be paid because the IRS will never be in a position to impose them.

Americans should be required to look at what a third-world nation parts of California have become and how California’s education system has tanked in the past 30 to 40 years.

I can’t get over how the GOP can’t even bother making an argument to get rid of the criminals, the identity thieves, and the visa overstayers. They’re pathetic.

BuckeyeSam on April 15, 2014 at 4:10 PM

The hope for Republican success with immigrant voters lies mainly with the upward mobility and prosperity of Latinos, Asians and others, something that will occur only with great difficulty given current levels of low-skill, wage-limiting immigration.

And won’t occur at all if they succeed in turning the country into another totalitarian utopia like the ones they left.

CJ on April 15, 2014 at 4:11 PM

But the Bushes tell me different.

Oil Can on April 15, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Unless they were on fire, I think you can safely ignore them.

ElectricPhase on April 15, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Immigrants, particularly Hispanics and Asians, have policy preferences when it comes to the size and scope of government that are more closely aligned with progressives than with conservatives.

They should be told that by voting democratic they will be turing this country into a rat hole like the one they left.

jmtham156 on April 15, 2014 at 4:14 PM

It’s so obvious that it’s pathetic that RINOS are still sucking up to illegal alien Amnesty on the cockamemy theory that a 7-10% increase in Hispanic votes means election victories. For every vote gained, we will lose 7 0r 8.

First of all, first generation Hispanic voters vote 90% Democratic, not dropping to 65-70% until the third generation. Second of all, kowtowing to minorities who will not vote for you, means a huge erosion in your own voting base. Thirdly, the added costs of more Spanish language schools, signs, text books etc. will be not only staggering but a culture changer.

MaiDee on April 15, 2014 at 4:14 PM

I’m interested to see what the Asians do when the start getting bumped from university spots. And I’m interested to see how blacks react to Hispanics elbowing them out for political muscle and spaces in the entitlement lines.

BuckeyeSam on April 15, 2014 at 4:14 PM

With so many Americans out of work and no sign of letup, it’s time to reduce, if not stop, immigration until the economy recovers, and I don’t mean the fake recovery government cronies tout but a real, genuine one. The fact is that many jobs have been outsourced and automated out of existence, and technology is only going to accelerate that trend. In the future if these trends reverse themselves or there is a new wave of industrialization in America then there may be need to open the doors to more immigration, but for the foreseeable future there is nothing for new immigrants to do but go on the dole and vote Democrat.

FloatingRock on April 15, 2014 at 4:17 PM

The Future: United States of Amerexico

This is getting close to being like an unstoppable chain reaction that leads all the way to the de facto merger with Mexico.

No kidding. This is the rationale. With amnesty and no effort to do e-verify to create the incentive for the illegals to return home, critical states like Texas will go blue. A coalition of the new Hispanic citizens and liberals will then ease immigration requirements further. No doubt. There will be a cry for easy instant immigration and instant citizenship for anyone that wants to come here from down south. They will have the votes to achieve this. Especially considering that with amnesty not only will we have perhaps 20 million new Dem voters, but their bountiful children will be waiting in the wings to in a few years greatly increase that number, and all their relatives could also immigrate.

Next thing you know their voting bloc is so huge that, yes, they will have taken over the U.S. from the inside out. And with the merger with Mexico, we will have an altogether different type of socialist system where we will also have a systematic redistribution of wealth and assets from the old citizens to the new.

anotherJoe on April 15, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Response: no thanks! Demographic suicide is a very, very bad idea. Seal the borders, keep the change.

Whitey Ford on April 15, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Wait a generation or two for low-skilled, Democratic-voting immigrants to have kids who grow up to become middle-class independents and then you’ve got a shot. In the meantime, gulp.

My great grandparents were immigrants and they were democrats and so were my grandparents. My parents however are Republican, but their views aren’t more conservative than their ancestors. The parties have become more left-leaning over time. The party left them, they didn’t leave the party. This is a problem for Democrats, but it is mitigated by more than 1 million mostly poor and unskilled immigrants that come here legally each year. Then we have illegal immigration too that contributes to the democrat voter base(anchor babies) albeit more slowly than legal immigration or a mass amnesty.

Wigglesworth on April 15, 2014 at 4:18 PM

People moving out, people moving in.
Why? Because of the color of their skin.
Run, run, run but you sure can’t hide.
An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.
Vote for me and I’ll set you free.
Rap on, brother, rap on.
Well, the only person talking about love thy brother is the preacher.
And it seems, nobody’s interested in learning but the teacher.

h/t The Temptations

Roy Rogers on April 15, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Immigrants, particularly Hispanics and Asians, have policy preferences when it comes to the size and scope of government that are more closely aligned with progressives than with conservatives.

I know many immigrants who came from the old Soviet bloc nations of Eastern Europe tended to prize the freedom they found in the US and I believe they tended to support Republicans (largely because of Reagan). Nowadays, we get immigrants who try to emulate the places they came from. Which leads me to wonder, why bother emigrating to the US to begin with?

Bitter Clinger on April 15, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Cruz Aims For Middle Ground On Immigration

The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight,” he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.

Besides barring citizenship while instituting some level of legalization for those here already, Cruz has proposed increasing the number of green cards awarded annually, to 1.35 million from 675,000 He also wants to eliminate the per-country limit that he said left applicants from countries like Mexico, China and India hamstrung when they tried to gain legal entry to this country.

thatsafactjack on April 15, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Viva la revolucion!

El_Terrible on April 15, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Which leads me to wonder, why bother emigrating to the US to begin with?

Bitter Clinger on April 15, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Exactly!!

jmtham156 on April 15, 2014 at 4:28 PM

“Illegal Immigration is Love. Illegal Immigration equates to more Democrat voters. So Vote for Democrats and Love it!”

-Jeb Bush

portlandon on April 15, 2014 at 4:28 PM

If Gimpel’s right, then the country’s going to turn bluer no matter how the immigration passion play in Congress plays out.

This sort of defeatist attitude reminds me of a scene from Strange Brew when the brakes on the van go out and Bob says, “welp, the brakes are out, no use steering now!” and crosses his arms and gives up trying to drive.

FloatingRock on April 15, 2014 at 4:29 PM

thatsafactjack on April 15, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Cruz Aims For Middle Ground On Immigration

Ok, is this good or bad? Seriously.

anotherJoe on April 15, 2014 at 4:30 PM

What a shock.

Dems appeal to moochers, looters, and parasites who think government’s role is to take from others and to give to them.

So what this is telling us is that the vast majority of immigrants are not people who want opportunity and the chance to earn wealth, but people who want to mooch, loot, and steal from others.

The answer is no. Mexico and the other countries of the world that follow Barack Obama economic policies do not get to send their “citizens” here to mooch and loot and steal because their own economies have collapsed after years of Obamanomics.

northdallasthirty on April 15, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Gimpel’s solution to all of this: There is none, at least not anytime soon.

I’ve got a better solution: Enforce the laws, secure the border, remove all squishy RINOs, and show some principles that’ll make people proud to be part of our Country and continue to vote rather than stay home discouraged.

Ukiah on April 15, 2014 at 4:33 PM

I know many immigrants who came from the old Soviet bloc nations of Eastern Europe tended to prize the freedom they found in the US and I believe they tended to support Republicans (largely because of Reagan). Nowadays, we get immigrants who try to emulate the places they came from. Which leads me to wonder, why bother emigrating to the US to begin with?

Bitter Clinger on April 15, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Parasites eventually kill their host.

Then they need to find a new one.

northdallasthirty on April 15, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Democrats need more victims because they can’t generate enough on their own.

rhombus on April 15, 2014 at 4:33 PM

No point in steering now!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWORVTX9mnU

FloatingRock on April 15, 2014 at 4:33 PM

“Wait a generation or two for low-skilled, Democratic-voting immigrants to have kids who grow up to become middle-class independents and then you’ve got a shot. In the meantime, gulp.

That is idiotic and self-defeating. What you do is increase the requirements to come to this country. You want to come to this country? Here’s what you need:

1- At least a high school education (the more education you have, the higher your chances of being allowed in)
2- You have to speak English
3- You do not quality for any form of state benefit for at least five years
4- If you are an investor or want to start a business with your own $$$, jump ahead of the line

Also, very limited family reunification. No, you don’t have a right to come in just because you have a father, brother, husband or whatever…the same rules listed above apply to you.

Why do the U.S. have to let everybody in? The current system does not makes sense. I came here legally in 1985 and have to prove that I would be self-sufficient… that’s how it has to be.

ujorge on April 15, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Nowadays, we get immigrants who try to emulate the places they came from. Which leads me to wonder, why bother emigrating to the US to begin with?

Bitter Clinger on April 15, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Many people in New Hampshire asked the same thing from people who moved there from Massachusetts. And now NH is blue. Banana Republics all around.

rhombus on April 15, 2014 at 4:35 PM

RickLeventhalFoxNews
@Rick Leventhal

VP Biden just told Boston bombing survivors: ‘It was worth it.’

1:35 PM – 15 Apr 2014

Biden needs to have his tongue amputated.

Of course, the doctors will first after surgically remove his foot from his mouth.

Resist We Much on April 15, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Parasites eventually kill their host.

Then they need to find a new one.

northdallasthirty on April 15, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Looks like they’ll be out of luck once the US is gone.

Bitter Clinger on April 15, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Many people in New Hampshire asked the same thing from people who moved there from Massachusetts. And now NH is blue. Banana Republics all around.

rhombus on April 15, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Wherever will they go once they finish ruining North Massachusetts, er, New Hampshire?

Bitter Clinger on April 15, 2014 at 4:40 PM

anotherJoe on April 15, 2014 at 4:30 PM

To answer you seriously… in my judgement, it’s bad.

This nation currently accepts about 1 million legal immigrants, total, per year. About 750,000 of those are through the legal immigration system, and about 250,000 are though the various asylum seekers and refugee acceptance and aid system.

Doubling legal immigration would see an influx of about 20 million people over the next ten years.

To be clear, the figure mentioned in the interview with Cruz doesn’t include any asylum seekers or those accepted on refugee status.

We already have 20 million American citizens and legal immigrants who are underemployed or chronically and acutely underemployed.

Immigrants, legal or illegal, work for less than American citizens and legal immigrants. The tax bill handed to employers is smaller for foreign legal labor, and illegal foreign labor can afford to work for far lower wages as they aren’t obliged to pay any tax at all…and the employer of illegal foreign labor pays no tax liability on that labor at all.

The effect of a flood of foreign labor is more unemployed Americans, particularly those just graduating from universities and colleges, as they have no experience, and, at the other end of the spectrum, older employees who have reached the zenith of their pay/experience rate.

thatsafactjack on April 15, 2014 at 4:47 PM

But it’s unfair to pick on amnesty fans here. Follow the last link and read through James Gimpel’s summary and you’ll see that the word “illegal” appears only twice. He’s not talking about illegals, he’s talking about immigrants generally, both legal and otherwise — and everyone of note in the GOP, Ted Cruz included, is in favor of robust legal immigration.

Yes and this is the problem right there. Its time for the political class to realize, despite the whining of their donors, that we re in the 19th century anymore and that we dont need mass-immigration to fill up a continental-sized Republic, especially not during periods of high unemployment.

Valkyriepundit on April 15, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Above, when I referred to legal immigrants who work for less than “American citizens or legal immigrants” I should have drawn the distinction that I’d intended between those legal immigrants who come to the nation specifically to work on a work permit visa which is subject to expiration, and those who come to this nation, and work, on a permanent legal resident card ( AKA ‘green card’), as there is a distinction between the two groups in the overall tax liability paid by their respective employers, and often in the pay rate.

thatsafactjack on April 15, 2014 at 4:56 PM

“If Republicans can increase their share among Hispanics by just three points over Romney’s showing — well within the limits of what can probably be achieved through these shifts — it would completely wipe out the expected vote gain for Democrats among these new voters. If Republicans got to where they routinely won between a third and two-fifths of the Hispanic vote — about how they performed in the late ’90s through the mid-2000s — they’d gain about three times as many votes as the Democrats from the shift.”

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/04/24/an_immigration_bonanza_for_democrats.html#ixzz2yzUQuBDJ

cdog0613 on April 15, 2014 at 4:58 PM

we dont need mass-immigration to fill up a continental-sized Republic, especially not during periods of high unemployment.

Valkyriepundit on April 15, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Kind of like the Carpathia pulling along side the Titanic and asking them if they would take on some of their passengers.

jmtham156 on April 15, 2014 at 5:01 PM

Response: no thanks! Demographic suicide is a very, very bad idea. Seal the borders, keep the change.

Whitey Ford on April 15, 2014 at 4:17 PM

I expec’ that kinda rayciss comment from whitey.

Lanceman on April 15, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Duh

neyney on April 15, 2014 at 5:09 PM

cdog0613 on April 15, 2014 at 4:58 PM

So the new Democrat party would be able to politically challenge the old Democrat party. That’s a great strategy.

DFCtomm on April 15, 2014 at 5:09 PM

thatsafactjack on April 15, 2014 at 4:47 PM

Thanks. And look, I was getting all excited about Cruz and I thought he was strongly against amnesty or amnesty lite. Are we still to be for Cruz, or what other options do we have? As far as candidates.

Of note, um, whatever Cruz proposed would have to get through congress, probably we’d still have a strong Republican House hopefully led by somebody else than Boegner.

anotherJoe on April 15, 2014 at 5:09 PM

I believe in legal immigration and I don’t believe in voter suppression. Calm down and let me explain my viewpoint. Yes, we need to secure the boarder, fix the current immigration system, figure out what is best for America when deciding what to do with the 11 million plus illegals. Yes, I understand chain immigration and the social and financial problems of allowing the poor and under educated to migrate into America en masse. Yes, I understand the fallacy of the welfare state and our ability to afford such a cradle to grave safety net.

When deciding how to fix or enforce our current immigration policies; how folks vote is not a consideration. You know why? It means folks like me who put freedom first will have to admit our beliefs don’t work and we have to resort to fascist tactics of allowing only “groups” that agree or think like me are able to participate in freedom. Lived in those countries and ain’t going there.

Sadly, this topic of immigration has shown me that many on the left and right have way too much in common when it comes to freedom. If the 11 million plus illegals voted two to one for Republicans….I feel many on the right would sing a different tune. Not me. We should do what is right for America when it comes to immigration and the 11 million plus ILLEGALS who are here now.

Finally, when it comes to immigration; I care what is best for America, not a political party. Yes, I know why the progressives want to have 11 million plus new citizens. Don’t care, let’s pull together on this issue and do what is right for America now and in the future. There is a solution; it will be hard work; but, our nation is still a just nation and freedom is the key. We may only have one chance to get this right, thus we can’t blow it like what happened with health care. Better to meet this issue head on, than let the progressives win this one by default. If we can’t sell and manage freedom….then all is really lost.

Hey, my first real political stance since joining! Chuckle!!

HonestLib on April 15, 2014 at 5:12 PM

(Plenty of Republican voters even support granting citizenship to illegals who are already here, contingent upon meeting certain requirements.)

One of the most basic requirements in the process of granting citizenship is a criminal background check. By being here as illegal aliens, the illegal alien immediately fails that requirement.

If they have been working here, they have also committed more serious crimes.

slickwillie2001 on April 15, 2014 at 5:16 PM

The Future: United States of Amerexico

This is getting close to being like an unstoppable chain reaction that leads all the way to the de facto merger with Mexico.

No kidding. This is the rationale. With amnesty and no effort to do e-verify to create the incentive for the illegals to return home, critical states like Texas will go blue. A coalition of the new Hispanic citizens and liberals will then ease immigration requirements further. No doubt. There will be a cry for easy instant immigration and instant citizenship for anyone that wants to come here from down south. They will have the votes to achieve this. Especially considering that with amnesty not only will we have perhaps 20 million new Dem voters, but their bountiful children will be waiting in the wings to in a few years greatly increase that number, and all their relatives could also immigrate.

Next thing you know their voting bloc is so huge that, yes, they will have taken over the U.S. from the inside out. And with the merger with Mexico, we will have an altogether different type of socialist system where we will also have a systematic redistribution of wealth and assets from the old citizens to the new.

anotherJoe on April 15, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Much worse than socialism, we will become a dismal third-world country like Mexico is. Ask yourself why Mexico is that way today while America is prosperous and wealthy. What did we do right that they didn’t get and still don’t get? The answer is our Anglo-French heritage, and their problem is their Spanish heritage.

slickwillie2001 on April 15, 2014 at 5:22 PM

It means folks like me who put freedom first will have to admit our beliefs don’t work and we have to resort to fascist tactics of allowing only “groups” that agree or think like me are able to participate in freedom.

HonestLib on April 15, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Its not a “freedom” to become an American citizen and enjoying the right to vote, its a privilege. And yes, freedom doesnt work if you try to exercise it with a bunch of people who dont value it or actively work against it. Thats not exactly news. Ever heard of the Weimar Republic?

Congrats to your first serious post, but it makes no sense.

Valkyriepundit on April 15, 2014 at 5:32 PM

Unfortunately, the statist Republicans can’t seem to understand that, or maybe they do. The truth is out that we the voters, are the least of their concerns.

RdLake on April 15, 2014 at 5:32 PM

Next thing you know their voting bloc is so huge that, yes, they will have taken over the U.S. from the inside out.

anotherJoe on April 15, 2014 at 4:17 PM

I suspect on certain issues that is already the case. That’s why any talk of enforcement is forbidden. Even 2nd generation conservative minorities still like the idea of being able to bring Grandma over and don’t want that door closed. I suggest you buy some sunglasses and get a nice drink and lounge beside the pool this summer. Enjoy life, you may never have it this good again.

DFCtomm on April 15, 2014 at 5:42 PM

When deciding how to fix or enforce our current immigration policies; how folks vote is not a consideration. You know why? It means folks like me who put freedom first will have to admit our beliefs don’t work and we have to resort to fascist tactics of allowing only “groups” that agree or think like me are able to participate in freedom. Lived in those countries and ain’t going there.

HonestLib on April 15, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Well, unfortunately my friend, you may have to do so.

The answer to the question is very straightforward: is the United States the land of wealth generation or of wealth redistribution?

The Constitution and the Declaration of Independence say the former.

Immigrants and the Obama Party clearly say the latter.

northdallasthirty on April 15, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Any Republican supporting “immigration reform” is like a Jew in 1932 supporting giving Hitler the Chancellorship. I.e. you support the eventual extermination of yourself.

I am an immigrant and I know the immigrant community well. 95% of them are rabid Democrats. And no, they will not change in a generation or two. Big government statism is in their genes.

People need to wake up. Traitors like Boehner, McConnnel and Rubio needs to be crucified for even suggesting opening up a path to citizenship for illegals. Current level of LEGAL immigration is bad enough.

Norwegian on April 15, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Current level of LEGAL immigration is bad enough.

Norwegian on April 15, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Thanks for that. Most people won’t even acknowledge what the current level of legal immigration actually is, and it’s huge if your wondering.

DFCtomm on April 15, 2014 at 5:48 PM

So, those in the GOPe that have been schlepping Amnesty…how’s that work again?

Exit question for the GOPe in favor of amnesty: Who’s side ARE you on?

Meople on April 15, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Valkyriepundit on April 15, 2014 at 5:32 PM

Thanks for your response and your effort to enlighten me is much appreciated.

HonestLib on April 15, 2014 at 6:09 PM

The only thing to do is … wait.

Wrong. The BEST thing to do, is to militarize and SEAL the southern border, ALL OF IT. Then start working on identifying and assimilating the current 30-50 million (11 million is a complete JOKE) illegals that are here now.

If they don’t want to identify themselves and start assimilating to become an AMERICAN, THERE’S THE DOOR! GET THE F OUT.

Meople on April 15, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Wrong. The BEST thing to do, is to militarize and SEAL the southern border, ALL OF IT. Then start working on identifying and assimilating the current 30-50 million (11 million is a complete JOKE) illegals that are here now.

If they don’t want to identify themselves and start assimilating to become an AMERICAN, THERE’S THE DOOR! GET THE F OUT.

Meople on April 15, 2014 at 6:09 PM

I don’t think you’re going to have much luck with legislating assimilation. It’s more of a social pressure issue, and also one that our society, currently, feels is evil.

DFCtomm on April 15, 2014 at 6:22 PM

In truth,except for the burden on our social welfare systems, we are almost better off doing nothing about the illegals in our midst.

They are here for money, not what we recognize as freedom, certainly not for voting rights.

They get lots more money here than back in the old country, because Papa works for cash, undercutting American laborers- Mama goes on the welfare gravy train, borrows as many extra kids as she can while she goes down to apply, maybe puts a couple of little ‘uns on SSI for ADHD, and then Mama and Papa cram several families in one rent subsidized house and possibly put a couple more in RVs in the back yard. Then they line up at the local HEB to send Western Union postales to the relatives back home.

Cut off the availability of of all those rich sources of gubbint money, and watch that old self-deportation start to work.

Pless1foEngrish on April 15, 2014 at 6:45 PM

if they get amnesty for the illegals, don’t bet the farm they will vote Democrat, they might for a while, but and that is a big but, they will form their own party, and they will have the clout to do it. how many votes did the president win by? how many illegals could get amnesty? what flag did they fly till it became a PR disaster? think about it

RonK on April 15, 2014 at 6:57 PM

Speaking of John Amnesty McCain….

Majority of Arizona Republicans: We Want John McCain Gone in 2016

xblade on April 15, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Wait a generation or two for low-skilled, Democratic-voting immigrants to have kids who grow up to become middle-class independents and then you’ve got a shot.

That’d be a glimmer of hope, if it wasn’t a complete fantasy.

The trouble with it is, in the future the electorate of Honey Boo Boo America — sorry, this is not your father’s USA, that’s dead and buried — is that its electorate will within the next decade or so consist of the following:

1. The Well-to-Do, comprising the economic top 5%;

2. The Working Poor, formerly known as the “Middle Class,” making up the next 40%; and

3. The Adult Wards of the State, who will make up the rest.

Most of #1, half of #2, and all of #3 are going to be rock-solid, straight-party-line donk votes. And our cousins from the south are going to lead the way.

There is not going to be a “middle class” for the offspring of the southern tidal wave to move up to. You can only equalize down, not “up.”

Welcome to Honey Boo Boo America.

Spurius Ligustinus on April 15, 2014 at 7:13 PM

..DEMOCRAT VOTES, Allah, not Democratic votes.

The War Planner on April 15, 2014 at 7:19 PM

So we are screwed and there is absolutely nothing we can do about it. Awesome.

Jack_Burton on April 15, 2014 at 7:41 PM

To that nitwit holing the sign in the article posted here, the sign should read:

USA…. BUILT BY —LEGAL— IMMIGRANTS

TX-96 on April 15, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Ironically we could solve much of the problem if we give the Azlan crown what they want and give the South West back to Mexico.

ChunkyLover on April 15, 2014 at 9:01 PM

crown = crowd

ChunkyLover on April 15, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Western Washington University calls number of white students on campus a ‘failure’ and asks how it can have fewer

Judging the success of the University by the color of the students rather than the content of the curriculum.

Note:

The university has already replaced standard performance reviews with sensitivity training and hosts workshops to better serve undocumented students. WWU also provides literature on how to better “recruit and retain faculty and staff of color.”

thatsafactjack on April 15, 2014 at 9:13 PM

I disagree with this analysis, although not from the pro-amnesty GOP point of view. The people who push that immigrations will forever vote democrat, and the democrats themselves, are working on several assumptions.

(1) That all immigrates will join together in a, “people of color,” voting bloc. That they will vote like African-Americans and in the same proportions, etc.

(2) That all immigrants will want the same kind of big government, like social safety nets for the poor, etc.

(3) That democrats will be able to retain the same share of white votes in the future.

(4) That immigrant populations and their children, grandchildren will continue to have birth rates at the same rate they are now.

All these assumptions are flawed and each one can be exploited by conservatives and the GOP if they have the guts and intelligence to do so.

My prediction:

Within 20 years the Democrat Party share of white vote will decline, Asian-American voters will defect to whatever the conservative party is at that time, and Hispanics and African-Americans, along with the remains of the white leftist vote, will divide the democrat party.

I might be alone in this, but if I had told white southern folks in the 1930s that their children and grandchildren would be voting for small government and the GOP one day, I would have been laughed at and maybe even beaten up for insulting their honor. The best way to see the future is to look at self interests, culture and fear…

William Eaton on April 15, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Deporation is the solution. As is restricting legal immigration.

federale86 on April 16, 2014 at 11:23 AM