Should the RNC go to Vegas?

posted at 5:01 pm on April 13, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

As the GOP continues planning the big nomination shindig for 2016, (yes… it takes that long to organize) they are considering a number of different host cities. One of the possible options under discussion is Las Vegas. Ed discussed this possibility back in January along with a few of the possible pitfalls and alternatives, but the push is still on and the deadline for a decision is approaching. It’s certainly worth a look, but some prominent social conservatives and religious leaders are warning the GOP against tossing the bid that way.

Some of the heaviest hitters on the religious right are pressuring GOP leaders to cross off Las Vegas as a potential host city for its 2016 convention, warning that putting the next convention in Sin City will harm the party’s image and drive away supporters.

Dallas already pitches itself as a more wholesome alternative to Vegas, and the push-back could bolster the city’s effort.

The leaders sent a letter last week to Republican chairman Reince Priebus, putting him on notice that picking Vegas would generate friction. They call the city a “trap waiting to ensnare. … What could go wrong? The answer is obvious.”

Doug Mataconis seems to think that Sin City is a non-starter.

A political convention in Las Vegas would certainly be an epic event, and there’s no question that the city has the space to handle the crowds that either political party would bring. At same time, though, Las Vegas still has a certain, shall we say, reputation that I am guessing neither Republicans nor Democrats would want to be associated with during an election year. The potential shenanigans, and resulting headlines, pretty much write themselves. Add to that the fact that Las Vegas in the summer can reach temperatures exceeding 100°, and I’m thinking that the RNC will be looking elsewhere for a convention site. My personal guess is that the Republican Convention will end up being held in either Cinncinnati, Cleveland, or Kansas City, all safe Mid-Western cities and all of them far away from any threat of hurricanes.

I believe a lot of the concerns expressed here are a bit overblown, but that doesn’t mean that Vegas is a great choice either. First of all, the worries that the GOP conventioneers are suddenly going to lose control of themselves and wind up in hundreds of hotel rooms, missing teeth and trapped in the bathroom with a tiger and Mike Tyson are humbug. And if the temptation exists to get up to such hijinks, Las Vegas hardly holds the patent on it. When I attended the last RNC in Tampa, the walking exit by the bay was within sight of a huge Hooters sign as soon as you left the security boundary. On the ride over to a nearby neighborhood for a sponsor’s party we passed a number of young ladies hanging around on the street who were… well, let’s just say that if they were meter maids, the Casual Friday dress codes down there are way beyond those in any other precinct. You can get into trouble in any large city if you’re really so inclined.

As to Doug’s concerns about the heat, I’ll risk repeating myself. See: Tampa, 2012. It was brutal. And when the temperatures weren’t in the upper 90′s with a humidity level which had to have been around 380% we were getting hammered with thunderstorms which threatened to spawn tornadoes.

Really, I’m not sure how much benefit the party gets from selecting any particular city, nor is the benefit always obvious for the host town. I suppose there’s a small argument to be made for hosting the shindig in a swing state like Ohio or Florida, but the benefit they realize in jobs and increased business is temporary and limited to a single county for the most part. The party also brings its own share of problems. The people of Tampa were enraged (at least if you listened to talk radio) because the security was so tight that a huge section of downtown was locked off from all non-conference traffic (driving or on foot) for several days behind a wall that was compared to the Green Zone in Baghdad.

Still, if you’re going to get some benefit out of it, you might as well do it where it may win a few votes in a needed area. For that reason, I’m tempted to agree with Doug and say that one of the two cities in Ohio might be the best choice. They can handle the traffic and every vote counts with the Buckeyes. Plus, it will be a much shorter trip for me.


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Here’s an idea GOP. Go with the city that offers the most convience and the best deal.

MrsGsBoyTommy on April 13, 2014 at 5:08 PM

The jokes would just write themselves.

sharrukin on April 13, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Politicians and convention attendees can do drugs and pick up prostitutes escorts anywhere. That’s a lame reason not to hold it there.

My own vote, if I had one, would have been for Phoenix. Unfortunately, that has already been eliminated (along with Columbus).

DisneyFan on April 13, 2014 at 5:13 PM

Ellis Island Brewing Co. Koval & Flamingo. Steak Special. $9 gets you a steak, potato, vegetable, soup or salad, and a beer. 24/7.

Why would you go anywhere other than Vegas…?

JohnGalt23 on April 13, 2014 at 5:14 PM

I don’t know why they should provide more money for Dingy Harry’s cronies.

crankyoldlady on April 13, 2014 at 5:15 PM

It’s only a city. Get over your busy body Puritan nonsense.

MoreLiberty on April 13, 2014 at 5:15 PM

Once Nevadans get smart enough to vote Harry Reid out of office, THEN the GOP should consider having a convention there. But not until then.

clayj on April 13, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Add to that the fact that Las Vegas in the summer can reach temperatures exceeding 100°…

Then why was Phoenix in the running. Temps down there in August can be in the one-teens….

LL

Lady Logician on April 13, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Alaska?

faraway on April 13, 2014 at 5:18 PM

It’s only a city. Get over your busy body Puritan nonsense.

MoreLiberty on April 13, 2014 at 5:15 PM

Says the guy with the directive.

thatsafactjack on April 13, 2014 at 5:18 PM

It’s only a city. Get over your busy body Puritan nonsense.

MoreLiberty on April 13, 2014 at 5:15 PM

its only a blog, get over your stupidity.
see how that works?
hey let us know how your blog is going, I mean if you think you have the right to tell the authors here how and what to write you should have your own going right???

dmacleo on April 13, 2014 at 5:18 PM

I would go with Kansas City. The name “Kansas” alone makes you feel all warm and fuzzy.

Punchenko on April 13, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Add to that the fact that Las Vegas in the summer can reach temperatures exceeding 100°, and I’m thinking that the RNC will be looking elsewhere for a convention site.

If summer heat’s a factor, Houston’s not that different:

June through August in Houston is very hot and humid, often with scattered afternoon showers and thunderstorms. The average daily high temperature peaks at 94 °F (34 °C) at the end of July,[5] with an average of 106.5 days per year above 90 °F (32 °C).[6] The average relative humidity ranges from over 90 percent in the morning to around 60 percent in the afternoon.[7] The temperatures in the summer in Houston are very similar to average temperatures seen in tropical climates, such as in the Philippines and Central America.[8] The values of relative humidity results in a heat index higher than the actual temperature.[9] The hottest temperature ever recorded in Houston was 109 °F (43 °C) on September 30, 1999[10] and on August 27, 2011.[11] On June 29, 2013, the temperature reached 107 °F (42 °C) in Houston, making it the highest temperature ever recorded in June.[12] Heat stroke can strike people who stay out of doors for long periods of time during the summer so hydration is essential for outdoor work and recreational activity.

bgoldman on April 13, 2014 at 5:21 PM

Hold it in Bengjazi

faraway on April 13, 2014 at 5:21 PM

not unless they want to be (rightly) perceived as beholden to Sheldon Adelson

commodore on April 13, 2014 at 5:21 PM

arggg, you know what I meant

faraway on April 13, 2014 at 5:21 PM

What the heck? Do Vegas, baby.

307wolverine on April 13, 2014 at 5:22 PM

in either Cinncinnati, Cleveland, or Kansas City,

Um, Doug, it can hit 100 during the summer in those cities as well.

rbj on April 13, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Why would you go anywhere other than Vegas…?

JohnGalt23 on April 13, 2014 at 5:14 PM

I would imagine the prices will go up.

crankyoldlady on April 13, 2014 at 5:22 PM

I don’t know why they should provide more money for Dingy Harry’s cronies.

crankyoldlady on April 13, 2014 at 5:15 PM

Yup.

It’s only a city. Get over your busy body Puritan nonsense.

MoreLiberty on April 13, 2014 at 5:15 PM

Someone’s feeling self-righteous today. How hypocritical.

Fallon on April 13, 2014 at 5:24 PM

What about Flippin, Arkansas, near the site of the Whitewater scandal?

That would send a message that the GOP is going to fight this time.

faraway on April 13, 2014 at 5:25 PM

I would imagine the prices will go up.

crankyoldlady on April 13, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Not a chance. Competition is high. Gotta get the players in the door…

JohnGalt23 on April 13, 2014 at 5:27 PM

Once Nevadans get smart enough to vote Harry Reid out of office, THEN the GOP should consider having a convention there. But not until then.

clayj on April 13, 2014 at 5:17 PM

No way! Why wld they go anywhere near vegas and dingy, dirty, vile, lying hairy reid?

Bambi on April 13, 2014 at 5:31 PM

Went to Vegas in the middle of July for my anniversary. 115 degrees. Could not even get in to the car. Like opening an oven when you went outside. Lots of luck if they pick it.

Barred on April 13, 2014 at 5:34 PM

I firmly believe the RNC should go to Detroit. If you want to give a city a boost, that’s fallen on hard times, Detroit would be it. Secondly, go to a Democrat stronghold that they’ve completely screwed up and use it as an example of how you could improve people’s lives.

I really believe it’s time for the Republicans to bring the fight to the Democrats. They’re really too timid to win a battle right now, they need to toughen up and fight them hard. The Democrats are a house of cards just waiting for someone to pull out that one card that makes the whole thing collapse. The Republicans believe the Democrats are made of brick. Nothing could be further from the truth. Without the MSM behind them, the Democrats would fold like a cheap tent.

Look at the lies they tell and get away with. The Voter I.D. lies, the Obamacare lies, the stimulus lies, the couldn’t get away with those lies of the MSM wasn’t behind them. If you attack them, the MSM isn’t going to protect them, they’ll have to defend their lies by themselves. I just can’t understand the Republican party. Maybe that’s why we need a third party, someone who will be like Avis, “We’re a second Republican Party and we try harder.”

bflat879 on April 13, 2014 at 5:36 PM

Reduce the convention size and hold it in Jackson Hole.

uatu1878 on April 13, 2014 at 5:37 PM

Used to go to NAB every year for years, it just ended this week, in Vegas. Also, spent a couple of months in 1994 covering the World Cup (Footie) in Dallas down at the Fair Grounds near the Cotton Bowl. Sorry guys, Dallas may be a good place to live, but not to visit. I would pick Vegas.

To be fair….Dallas had some good eats. No, not the other kind you dummies as I did not pay for that.

HonestLib on April 13, 2014 at 5:39 PM

Land grabber and cattle rustler Harry Reid’s backyard? Why? For the hookers?

VorDaj on April 13, 2014 at 5:40 PM

It’s only a city. Get over your busy body Puritan nonsense.

MoreLiberty on April 13, 2014 at 5:15 PM

Puritan? Is that a body wash or a shampoo? At my age I get so darn confused.

HonestLib on April 13, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Hold it at the Bundy ranch. They can put up tents and sleeping bags. The delegates and speakers can “rough” it once in a while. They can pet the cows instead of the hookers.

VorDaj on April 13, 2014 at 5:42 PM

I can’t believe the GOP would consider Las Vegas for their convention.Harry Reid and his fascist SEIU Goonion buddies would do everything in their power to sabotage it.Power disruptions, PA systems malfunctioning, etc.My choice would be Dallas in the Great State of Texas!!

jeffinsjvca on April 13, 2014 at 5:42 PM

…I wouldn’t step foot in that state…until that pukey little basturd Rip-off Reid…has assumed room temperature!

KOOLAID2 on April 13, 2014 at 5:44 PM

I firmly believe the RNC should go to Detroit. If you want to give a city a boost, that’s fallen on hard times, Detroit would be it. Secondly, go to a Democrat stronghold that they’ve completely screwed up and use it as an example of how you could improve people’s lives

Just curious, have you ever been to Detroit? I used to live there. Not the suburbs, the actual city about 1/4 mile west of I-375 off of Lafayette.

Everybody would have stay inside The Green Zone in order to avoid getting killed. Downtown/Woodward Ave is fine, but if you deviate too far from Woodward, you’re a fool. And I can easily see folks wanting to check out the Ruin Porn, and not making it home alive.

Yes, there are three casinos and nicer spots, but I just can’t see Detroit being able to accommodate that many people safely. The safe areas are not large enough.

307wolverine on April 13, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Screw Dallas, come to Corpus Christi.

Enjoy the balmy breezes, palm trees and white sand beaches. Florida, only cheaper and its still TEXAS, baby.

Pless1foEngrish on April 13, 2014 at 5:52 PM

No.

Blaise on April 13, 2014 at 5:53 PM

Death Valley

WhatSlushfund on April 13, 2014 at 5:58 PM

307wolverine on April 13, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Having been to a couple of these shindigs, I can assure you that no one really gets outside the “green zone” anyway. It’s too busy and too difficult to get in and out. If I didn’t live in the Twin Cities, I never would have left the River Center/hotel neighborhood during the 2008 convention.

That being said … you’re right about Detroit being a non-starter. Too much of a burden on their infrastructure at a time when they can’t even afford it for themselves.

Ed Morrissey on April 13, 2014 at 6:00 PM

Vegas is the perfect city for the establishment to anoint their next loser. Great place to reach across the aisle. Harry’s aisle that is.

mobydutch on April 13, 2014 at 6:00 PM

Denver. Colorado is a much needed swing state, drifting back right. And, hey, it worked for Barry!

cdog0613 on April 13, 2014 at 6:00 PM

No.

I mean NO!

Really. I love Vegas, and it’s fun. But it about empty glitter. Sin city. No, we want to contrast with the decline in values that has occurred under Obama and the Dems. A place with a more wholesome feel, and honestly, I like the South.. because that’s an excellent contrast with Obama et al. Like Kentucky, Tennessee. Go someplace where they got horses and forests and greenery. Not vegas.

anotherJoe on April 13, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Sure, have it in Vegas. Yep, keep filling the pockets of the very people who keep voting for Reid, as he fills his pockets with dirty money. The cycle just keeps going and going. Make. it. stop!

31giddyup on April 13, 2014 at 6:03 PM

I firmly believe the RNC should go to Detroit. If you want to give a city a boost, that’s fallen on hard times, Detroit would be it. Secondly, go to a Democrat stronghold that they’ve completely screwed up and use it as an example of how you could improve people’s lives.

bflat879 on April 13, 2014 at 5:36 PM

This idea has one additional benefit I hadn’t thought of at first. Rather than renting a convention center to hold the event, we could probably buy about half the city for less than renting a center in a thriving city and just keep it for other meetings later.

Jazz Shaw on April 13, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Should the RNC go to Vegas?

Why not? The GOP elite might as well join all the other prostitutes.

whatcat on April 13, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Should they go to Vegas?

No. Winning Nevada isn’t likely to change the election, and people in Las Vegas tend to act badly. Make news.

Go to Cincinnati. They need to motivate Republican voters on the Ohio River if they want to win Ohio, and the election. Or go to Florida.

MTF on April 13, 2014 at 6:14 PM

To be served by SEIU goons? I think not.

slickwillie2001 on April 13, 2014 at 6:16 PM

No and Hell no!
I would not spend one single dime in that state!
NO

Delsa on April 13, 2014 at 6:17 PM

I beg to differ. Do you really think that the media and Democrats are going to give the Republicans a break?

Turn it around and embrace the fact that Las Vegas is a city much like any other American city. Go Pope Francis on it and embrace Las Vegas with love and charity.

It’s all about spin. Go all in, RNC!

Vegas for the win.

islandman78 on April 13, 2014 at 6:17 PM

I don’t know why they should provide more money for Dingy Harry’s cronies.

crankyoldlady on April 13, 2014 at 5:15 PM

The RNC should announce that they have decided against Las Vegas because of Dingy Harry and his insane rants.

slickwillie2001 on April 13, 2014 at 6:20 PM

bflat879 on April 13, 2014 at 5:36 PM

I agree with Detroit. It hi-lights the failed liberal policies while possibly providing a boast to Terri Lynn Land’s Senate bid and could put Michigan in play for the eventual nominee. As for the infrastructure, Detroit has done a good job hosting events like the Super Bowl and Final Four. The North American International Auto Show gets over a 100,000 visitors every year. Anyone straying too far to look at ruin porn is safe in large numbers, most of the crime there is Detroiter on Detroiter. Plus with Canada just south across the river, much could be made about the pipeline that will still be in limbo.

Flange on April 13, 2014 at 6:22 PM

Casper, Wyoming – heck, why not?

PersonFromPorlock on April 13, 2014 at 6:23 PM

First…..

Ed Morrissey on April 13, 2014 at 6:00 PM

and then….

Jazz Shaw on April 13, 2014 at 6:07 PM

When did HotAir have another open enrollment? Come on guys who own this site; can’t we do better. Sheesh, who else will they let it?

HonestLib on April 13, 2014 at 6:23 PM

No.

I mean NO!

Really. I love Vegas, and it’s fun. But it about empty glitter. Sin city. No, we want to contrast with the decline in values that has occurred under Obama and the Dems. A place with a more wholesome feel, and honestly, I like the South.. because that’s an excellent contrast with Obama et al. Like Kentucky, Tennessee. Go someplace where they got horses and forests and greenery. Not vegas.

anotherJoe on April 13, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Because that’s where all the businesses have gone that were driven from the socialist states. They deserve the business.

crankyoldlady on April 13, 2014 at 6:39 PM

Some people think it’s about winning a particular state that you have the convention in. I don’t think that should be it. It’s about appealing to the voters in all the states. I like Colorado also, like cdog suggested, but how about a small town?? Would that be possible at all?

And a story of Romney trying to appeal to the voters of an individual state is of note. We all heard at one point that Romney came out against extending tax credits for the windmill industry. And we all applauded that. Maybe Romney wasn’t all bad. Then in the 2nd debate he made a huge noise that he just had to have more time for another rebuttal (despite time being out and the debate rules so it caused a stir), and that was to point out that Obama was not telling the truth about him wanting to end tax credits for Iowa windmills. We all were just shaking our heads in disbelief. By trying to appeal to a narrow interest of a single state Romney strongly reinforced the sense that he was a calculating issue skirting or double talking equivocator, all at the same time appearing like a boar for forcing his way to talk more in the debate. And after all that he lost Iowa anyway.

anotherJoe on April 13, 2014 at 6:43 PM

I agree with Detroit. It hi-lights the failed liberal policies while possibly providing a boast to Terri Lynn Land’s Senate bid and could put Michigan in play for the eventual nominee. As for the infrastructure, Detroit has done a good job hosting events like the Super Bowl and Final Four. The North American International Auto Show gets over a 100,000 visitors every year. Anyone straying too far to look at ruin porn is safe in large numbers, most of the crime there is Detroiter on Detroiter. Plus with Canada just south across the river, much could be made about the pipeline that will still be in limbo.

Flange on April 13, 2014 at 6:22 PM

Guess I didn’t elaborate enough. It is one thing to go to Detroit for a one-day event, another to stay for while for a convention. I get that the auto show takes a few days, but that’s not the same as a political event.

I can just imagine many of the local riff-raff licking their chops at the opportunity of taking out one of those rich racist Republican who are obviously the source of all of their troubles and folks not realizing how easy it is to step outside the safety zone of Woodward Ave.

307wolverine on April 13, 2014 at 6:43 PM

<blockquoteHonestLib on April 13, 2014 at 6:23 PM

Heh

captnjoe on April 13, 2014 at 6:50 PM

307wolverine on April 13, 2014 at 6:43 PM

You don’t need to elaborate with me, I lived at Mack and Alter for 10 years, and attended Wayne State for a few years. I had a carpet cleaning business with most of my work in some of the worst neighborhoods in the city. I moved to Texas just a few years ago. Detroit does fine for these events, the Final Four is longer than a one day event and even the Super Bowl becomes almost a week long event. The problems occur mainly in the residential areas not downtown. Other than the fireworks even the festivals at Hart Plaza are generally safe. The local riff-raff prey on each other and are total cowards unless they have a decided advantage in numbers.

Flange on April 13, 2014 at 7:03 PM

Some of the heaviest hitters on the religious right are pressuring GOP leaders to cross off Las Vegas as a potential host city for its 2016 convention, warning that putting the next convention in Sin City will harm the party’s image and drive away supporters.

This isn’t 1975. Vegas isn’t really “Sin City” in the ways it once was. You can’t please all of the people all of the time, and no matter what city will be chosen to host the GOP convention, some group is going to bellyache about it for some reason.

I don’t know about anyone else, but to those who don’t attend these conventions…can you name, off the top of your head, the last five cities to host the GOP (or the Dem) conventions? Or the last three? I can’t.

Frankly, I’m more concerned about getting the right candidate, and solidifying the party as much as is possible, to support him or her. That is job number one…the host city doesn’t matter, except to the delegates and media crews who treat these things more like a huge party than a time to unite as the Republican party…and of course to the businesses in that city, who could certainly revel in momentary big business.

JetBoy on April 13, 2014 at 7:05 PM

“The RINO you nominate in Vegas, stays in Vegas”?

Bitter Clinger on April 13, 2014 at 7:10 PM

can you name, off the top of your head, the last five cities to host the GOP (or the Dem) conventions? Or the last three? I can’t.

JetBoy on April 13, 2014 at 7:05 PM

That’s actually the point. The city isn’t supposed to be the center of attention and Vegas will be, as well as providing a lot of ammunition and jokes to the Democrats while filling their pockets with cash.

sharrukin on April 13, 2014 at 7:12 PM

JetBoy on April 13, 2014 at 7:05 PM

Sorry but Vegas is even more glittery and neony and sin ridden then in 1975, and I don’t know why you picked out 1975 as if that year represented the culmination of bad. Ok, that’s my opinion. And your point about the greater importance of solidifying or unifying the party is good, and really, the city of the convention is not all that important.

anotherJoe on April 13, 2014 at 7:14 PM

That’s actually the point. The city isn’t supposed to be the center of attention and Vegas will be, as well as providing a lot of ammunition and jokes to the Democrats while filling their pockets with cash.

sharrukin on April 13, 2014 at 7:12 PM

Jokes where Republicans will come off as party animals and democrats will come off as prudes.
Or are we still trying to lock up the senior vote?

Ronnie on April 13, 2014 at 7:17 PM

I lived at Mack and Alter for 10 years

You deserve a medal. For those of you that don’t know Alter basically forms the boundary of Detroit and Grosse Pointe Park. I once had to visit the Chrysler dealer there, so I went up Jefferson. It is unreal. On one side of the street you have the Third World and the other one has nice upscale manicured lawns. Those folks must pay a fortune in homeowner’s insurance.

Even though Mack is a main drag, Mack has shoulder high weeds, burnt out buildings, missing manhole covers, etc…. All of the ruin porn you’d ever want to see. It just makes you shudder at what you’d see once you got deeper into the neighborhoods on the side streets.

WSU is a nice area. I lived in one of those two 22 story apartment towers at Lafayette and Orleans, right across the street from the Dequindre Cut – a rails to trails thingee that I never saw anyone use.

307wolverine on April 13, 2014 at 7:19 PM

I say no to Vegas ONLY because it’s a big union city and has voted very heavily Dem for awhile – most especially for Dingy Harry.
But I say the same thing about Denver as well. Very heavy Dem voting record.
Why would the RNC want to “reward” cities that consistently vote heavy Dem?
Having the Repub convention is NOT going to swing those cities to the right.
Reward the cities that have a solid record of voting R.

dentarthurdent on April 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM

Jokes where Republicans will come off as party animals and democrats will come off as prudes.
Or are we still trying to lock up the senior vote?

Ronnie on April 13, 2014 at 7:17 PM

Jokes where the Republicans will come off as mafia members, in bed with prostitutes, hypocrites, gambling away the countries cash in Vegas, etc. If you are expecting a fair deal, it isn’t in the cards.

sharrukin on April 13, 2014 at 7:21 PM

Why isn’t the RNC looking at some of the smaller cities with solid conservative voting records?
For example, in Colorado – how about Colorado Springs instead of Denver?
Colorado Springs is heavily conservative, solid Republican voting record, just recalled one of the gun-grabbing Dem state senators, and has a lot of military.
I’m sure there are other cities like this that are also more deserving of the RNC convention than the current top contenders.

dentarthurdent on April 13, 2014 at 7:26 PM

307wolverine on April 13, 2014 at 7:19 PM

From my balcony I could see straight thru six blocks of where houses had long since burned and been reclaimed by nature. The upside was I had some pheasants (not peasants, but the birds) living in my back yard. I use to park near your buildings and walk to Ford Field whenever I subjected myself to a Lions game.

Flange on April 13, 2014 at 7:28 PM

From my balcony I could see straight thru six blocks of where houses had long since burned and been reclaimed by nature. The upside was I had some pheasants (not peasants, but the birds) living in my back yard. I use to park near your buildings and walk to Ford Field whenever I subjected myself to a Lions game.

Flange on April 13, 2014 at 7:28 PM

Don’t doubt you for a second. I moved to Detroit because I got a job at Quicken. I was focusing on minimizing my daily commute costs. I began to worry about what I had gotten into the day after the movers left. I went grocery shopping at the Spartan store in that strip mall at the corner of Orleans and Lafayette. There was an armed guard outside. It was one of those WTF moments.

Shortly thereafter I got my CPL. If this middle-aged white guy was going to be traveling around Detroit, he was going to be packing heat. Now, I live in the Great White North far from the maddening crowds.

307wolverine on April 13, 2014 at 7:38 PM

1) Vegas is total Democrat territory. Money spent there will fund the Democrats and specifically Harry Reid and his despicable family of crooks.
2) Being a Democrat controlled territory, it can be assumed that the local government and the union thugs will either entrap Republican delegates and candidates, or falsify incidents to make them look bad.
3) After Harry Reid’s involvement in the attempted Federal government Waco-ing at Bundy Ranch, only prevented by the actions of armed American patriots who rallied there; why should ANY patriots spend money in Vegas at any time, let alone at a Republican? Granting the Institutional Republicans are allies of the Democrats, but if they aspire to be believed in their claim to be an Opposition Party, they need to stay out of Vegas.

Hold the convention somewhere that can be considered part of America.

Subotai Bahadur on April 13, 2014 at 7:39 PM

That’s actually the point. The city isn’t supposed to be the center of attention and Vegas will be, as well as providing a lot of ammunition and jokes to the Democrats while filling their pockets with cash.

sharrukin on April 13, 2014 at 7:12 PM

The Democrats/liberals are going to attack the GOP in everything anyway. Who cares? How would Vegas as convention host city or not make one bit of difference? I’d rather have the GOP convention in a heavily Democratic city…take the battle right to hostile territory…rather than “hide out” in some “safe zone”. If the GOP can’t handle that, then we have no business even running a campaign at all.

JetBoy on April 13, 2014 at 7:47 PM

307wolverine on April 13, 2014 at 7:38 PM

I know the store. Did you know “Hi, I’m Dave Hall for Rock Financial”? I grew up with him, his dad was my hockey coach for a few years.

Flange on April 13, 2014 at 7:48 PM

I’d rather have the GOP convention in a heavily Democratic city…take the battle right to hostile territory…rather than “hide out” in some “safe zone”. If the GOP can’t handle that, then we have no business even running a campaign at all.

JetBoy on April 13, 2014 at 7:47 PM

Refusing to hand over cash to the Democrats isn’t ‘hiding out’.

sharrukin on April 13, 2014 at 7:49 PM

can you name, off the top of your head, the last five cities to host the GOP (or the Dem) conventions? Or the last three? I can’t.

JetBoy on April 13, 2014 at 7:05 PM

Some people remember.

The Charlotte in 2012 Host Committee has started to contact vendors with repayment details for the $2.1 million it still owes to companies and individuals for goods and services provided during the Democratic National Convention.

AesopFan on April 13, 2014 at 7:52 PM

TheNV GOP removed abortion and gay marriage from the state party platform, so that removes Brian Sandoval from consideration for higher office and Las Vegas from consideration for the 2016 convention.

ezspirit on April 13, 2014 at 7:52 PM

Jokes where the Republicans will come off as mafia members, in bed with prostitutes, hypocrites, gambling away the countries cash in Vegas, etc. If you are expecting a fair deal, it isn’t in the cards.

sharrukin on April 13, 2014 at 7:21 PM

Republicans could stand to look a little bad-ass for once. We’re talking about attracting the stupid vote.

Ronnie on April 13, 2014 at 7:53 PM

Sorry but Vegas is even more glittery and neony and sin ridden then in 1975, and I don’t know why you picked out 1975 as if that year represented the culmination of bad. Ok, that’s my opinion. And your point about the greater importance of solidifying or unifying the party is good, and really, the city of the convention is not all that important.

anotherJoe on April 13, 2014 at 7:14 PM

“Glittery” and “neony” doesn’t equate to “sin”…look at Times Square in Manhattan…it was a hive of depravity before it was made all “glittery” and “neony” as well. I used 1975 as an arbitrary time frame rather than a specific year. Vegas was a mafia haven of corruption…today it’s a destination that is filled with entertainment for everyone, and caters to the whole family, and not hookers and gamblers.

JetBoy on April 13, 2014 at 7:54 PM

How about a right to work state like Tennessee or South Carolina? Nashville and Charleston are great (although Charleston can get hot in the summer as well).

ladyingray on April 13, 2014 at 7:55 PM

Refusing to hand over cash to the Democrats isn’t ‘hiding out’.

sharrukin on April 13, 2014 at 7:49 PM

Oh, sure. Why not have convention officials check everyone’s party affiliation in every possible business and service in each prospective city…and request only registered Republicans be on staff at all times.

You know, pumping some money into a Democrat stronghold could be beneficial in the long run.

JetBoy on April 13, 2014 at 7:58 PM

You know, pumping some money into a Democrat stronghold could be beneficial in the long run.

JetBoy on April 13, 2014 at 7:58 PM

The GOP does that every time they vote on a budget, or a Continuing Resolution. It hasn’t helped yet.

sharrukin on April 13, 2014 at 8:00 PM

Hold it in Columbus, Ohio. You get it in a state that you need more than Nevada, and one where your party doesn’t become a laughingstock because of the venue.

Stoic Patriot on April 13, 2014 at 8:00 PM

I second Detroit. It draws attention to the failures of liberal rule and highlights the competence of Republican governors like Snyder, Walker, Kasich and Christie in the Rust Belt, where the GOP needs to be competitive. Terri Lynn Land, who will probably become a senator, can counter the war on women narrative, and Rand Paul can be a keynote speaker, if he isn’t on the ticket, reaching out to the state’s large Muslim and black populations, as well as the tea party. Plus, it’s a blue state bastion. Tons of EV’s compared to NV.

ezspirit on April 13, 2014 at 8:06 PM

The GOP does that every time they vote on a budget, or a Continuing Resolution. It hasn’t helped yet.

sharrukin on April 13, 2014 at 8:00 PM

Yeah, but nobody really hears about that. Party conventions are, by their very nature, a big show…like a large circus pulling into town…a “Spring Break” for party delegates. They’re a great way for the GOP to show some balls by going straight to the front lines.

JetBoy on April 13, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Ignore the Hispanic vote. Republicans only embarrass themselves panting over it.

ezspirit on April 13, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Ignore the Hispanic vote. Republicans only embarrass themselves panting over it.

ezspirit on April 13, 2014 at 8:10 PM

But Detroit has Mexican village. Xochimilco and the other restaurants are great watering holes.

Flange on April 13, 2014 at 8:14 PM

I know the store. Did you know “Hi, I’m Dave Hall for Rock Financial”? I grew up with him, his dad was my hockey coach for a few years.

Flange on April 13, 2014 at 7:48 PM

The name doesn’t ring a bell. Where in TX are you? I also lived in Houston for 19 months.

307wolverine on April 13, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Not like Vegas and Miami… Huge service industry towns.

ezspirit on April 13, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Only if the DNC has already booked Dis.

In fact, they could hold a joint convention there and save everyone else a lot of aggravation.

clear ether

eon

eon on April 13, 2014 at 8:22 PM

The name doesn’t ring a bell. Where in TX are you? I also lived in Houston for 19 months.

307wolverine on April 13, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Dave was VP of Rock Financial until he and Gilbert got into a fight at a bar mitzvah in ’09.
I did the opposite of you fleeing Detroit. I went away from the cold to Galveston Island.

Flange on April 13, 2014 at 8:27 PM

How about having a convention to discuss important things instead of partying all the time?

I think republicans/conservatives should refuse to go to a dingy hairy’s place. They are the people who voted him into power – legally or illegally.
Do what 0bama wanted-remember when he said, “don’t go to vegas!”

Bambi on April 13, 2014 at 8:32 PM

I did the opposite of you fleeing Detroit. I went away from the cold to Galveston Island.

Flange on April 13, 2014 at 8:27 PM

I was in Houston when Ike hit. Made it to Galveston once, wanted to see The Strand, but my buddy was more into beaches, so instead of fighting the issue, I just let it go.

307wolverine on April 13, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Flange on April 13, 2014 at 8:27 PM

I live on the former Wurtsmith AFB now.

307wolverine on April 13, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Why isn’t the RNC looking at some of the smaller cities with solid conservative voting records?
For example, in Colorado – how about Colorado Springs instead of Denver?
Colorado Springs is heavily conservative, solid Republican voting record, just recalled one of the gun-grabbing Dem state senators, and has a lot of military.
I’m sure there are other cities like this that are also more deserving of the RNC convention than the current top contenders.

dentarthurdent on April 13, 2014 at 7:26 PM

+1(000)

At least I love the general idea. A wholesome place of natural beauty that is urban, but on the small side. Not that I know exactly what it is, but Colorado Springs sounds awesome. And as far as those that try to pick a city based on the state they want to win, winning CO would be a huge plus.

anotherJoe on April 13, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Why isn’t the RNC looking at some of the smaller cities with solid conservative voting records?

dentarthurdent on April 13, 2014 at 7:26 PM

I think that this is a very important question because I seriously don’t know the answer. I’ve never been to a political convention. I guess that I could understand maybe the Plumbers Association of America wanting to have their annual convention in a big city because those guys just want to get away from their wives for a few days and have sex with prostitutes. But if you were in any way serious about trying to craft a political message, and your base was outside main urban areas, why not go where your base is.

Ok, I think I just answered my own question.

The GOP is doomed.

WhatSlushfund on April 13, 2014 at 8:47 PM

307wolverine on April 13, 2014 at 8:35 PM

That’s a beautiful area, of course the whole state is minus a few urban areas. Between Lake Huron and the Au Sable river I hope you’re a fisherman, or at least a boater.
The Strand is cool, you can still see the water line from Ike’s flooding on some of the buildings, but the beaches are nicer.

Flange on April 13, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Have it on the border.

faraway on April 13, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Flange on April 13, 2014 at 8:47 PM

I keep telling folks that MI is a land of great contrasts. All folks see on TV are the Ruin Porn of Detroit and Flint and the Pure MI ads. I tell folks that the Pure MI ads are real and make up the majority of the state.

We are the 8th most populous state in the Union despite all of the folks who have moved out over the past 25 years or so, and roughly 1/2 of the state lives in metro Detroit. And then once you exclude Grand Rapids, Flint, Pontiac, Lansing, Saginaw, Jackson, etc. we become real rural, real fast. Heck, the UP comprises 29% of the state’s land area, but only 3% of the people.

If it wasn’t for the rain this weekend I woulda gone hiking. I also eagerly look forward to the local gun range to open up for the season. Rifles I had. I didn’t feel the need to own a hand gun until I moved to Detroit.

307wolverine on April 13, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Have it on the border.

faraway on April 13, 2014 at 8:59 PM

I like it.

MT on April 13, 2014 at 9:03 PM

307wolverine on April 13, 2014 at 9:01 PM

I had some friend’s visit from Northern California, Redwood country, who were blown away by how big all the trees were. Oaks, elms, ash and maples like they’ve never seen. And of course the size of the lakes. Lake St. Clair baffled them until they saw Erie. Michigan has more coast line then any other state of the 48 contiguous states with an amazing amount of lighthouses.

Have it on the border.

faraway on April 13, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Detroit’s on the border.

Flange on April 13, 2014 at 9:17 PM

I had some friend’s visit from Northern California, Redwood country, who were blown away by how big all the trees were. Oaks, elms, ash and maples like they’ve never seen. And of course the size of the lakes. Lake St. Clair baffled them until they saw Erie. Michigan has more coast line then any other state of the 48 contiguous states with an amazing amount of lighthouses.

Didja take them up to see the Mighty Mac? My ex was born and raised in The Philippines. The bridge blew her away, especially crossing it with the wind blowing (LOL).

I took her to the old fort at the southern base of the bridge. If I tried to spell it I’d butcher it. I can only imagine how harsh life must have been for those people. Nobody around, except those inside the fort with you. Risk of Indian attacks. Constant wind taking you to subzero temps. Running the risk of famine.

307wolverine on April 13, 2014 at 9:38 PM

The media would have a field day…

iwasbornwithit on April 13, 2014 at 9:41 PM

307wolverine on April 13, 2014 at 9:38 PM

No, I took them to Cedar Point so they could see a real amusement park, instead of those playgrounds they have in California.
Last time I crossed the Mac was in my brother’s VW Westfalia. My sister-in-law hid in the back about halfway across. Ironically, she’s also from San Fran. You’re right about living up there. Not a whole lots changed in some of those areas. The Yoopers might be the nicest people in the country if you ask me.

Flange on April 13, 2014 at 9:53 PM

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