BLM leaves scene of standoff with Cliven Bundy

posted at 5:31 pm on April 12, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

We’ve been discussing this on Twitter for a while, but I was waiting to see how the story would end out in Nevada. (And before we get too far ahead of ourselves, I seriously doubt this is “over” in the long run.) Cattle rancher Cliven Bundy has been in a tense standoff federal agents and the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) for some time now, as many of our readers are already well aware. Today Bundy seemed to win something of a victory – at least for now – as the Feds departed.

A Nevada cattle rancher appears to have won his week-long battle with the federal government over a controversial cattle roundup that had led to the arrest of several protesters.

Cliven Bundy went head to head with the Bureau of Land Management over the removal of hundreds of his cattle from federal land, where the government said they were grazing illegally.

Bundy claims his herd of roughly 900 cattle have grazed on the land along the riverbed near Bunkerville, 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas, since 1870 and threatened a “range war” against the BLM on the Bundy Ranch website after one of his sons was arrested while protesting the removal of the cattle.

“I have no contract with the United States government,” Bundy said. “I was paying grazing fees for management and that’s what BLM was supposed to be, land managers and they were managing my ranch out of business, so I refused to pay.”

The federal government had countered that Bundy “owes the American people in excess of $1 million ” in unpaid grazing fees and “refuses to abide by the law of land, despite many opportunities over the last 20 years to do so.”

The main reason I say, “for now” is that I somehow doubt that the BLM is simply going to go away for good after getting this kind of a media black eye. But for the moment, the risk of additional confrontation and potentially escalating violence has led them to get out of Dodge before this turned into another Ruby Ridge type scenario. (Do these guys actually learn things from history? That would be refreshing.) But at any rate, round one goes to Bundy and the many people who flocked to the area to support him.

In terms of media coverage, I’ll leave you with an interesting comparison between conservative and liberal coverage of the event. First, from the Left.

Armed Right-Wing Militia Members Descend On Nevada To Help Rancher Defy Court Order

“We provide armed response,” according to a Montana militia member named Jim Lordy. Lordy traveled to Nevada in order to support a local rancher for believes that he should not have to follow federal court orders. When he arrived there, he told a local reporter that “[w]e need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.”

And from the Right.

Victory for Cliven Bundy, Nevada rancher who challenged feds

Citing safety concerns, federal agents are withdrawing from the Nevada cattle ranch where they had engaged in a week-long showdown with Cliven Bundy, a 67-year-old rancher who claimed the federal government had no right to tax and regulate property his family has owned since 1880.

You get the gist. This is actually a complicated situation, as much as Bundy is clearly the sympathetic favorite here. The behavior of the federal agents has been nothing short of appalling, with armed intruders, the removal of Bundy’s cattle and various military might deployed to the land where these cattle have grazed for generations. But at the same time, the government has more than a feeble leg to stand on in terms of unpaid grazing fees. (An issue which could have been handled better on Bundy’s end.) But this rancher is once again raising awareness of vital questions of federal vs state vs private property rights.

In another era, Bundy would likely have been quietly run out of business and – literally – lost the farm. Now, thanks to his own efforts in reaching out and the participation of media watchers around the nation, along with volunteers who showed up to help, he and his family may actually get a fair hearing and a chance to keep what they have worked so long and so hard for. But, as I said above, this one will be developing for some time to come if I’m right.


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And before we get too far ahead of ourselves, I seriously doubt this is “over” in the long run.

That may, or may not be true. But if it isn’t over, it gives us a helluva cudgel for the next 2.5 years…

JohnGalt23 on April 12, 2014 at 5:33 PM

From other things I’ve read it sounds like they may have killed a number of his cattle already, so even this victory may be Pyrrhic. I hope not.

SoRight on April 12, 2014 at 5:35 PM

BLM leaves scene of standoff with Cliven Bundy

Al’s dad had a standoff with someone called BLM?
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Mimzey on April 12, 2014 at 5:36 PM

But what about the desert tortises? If this harms the desert tortises, then what is the Fish and Wildlife Service going to euthanize?

rbj on April 12, 2014 at 5:37 PM

Barry the Marxist does not have the stomach for another Waco? Bill Clinton would just have murdered everyone including the children and moved on to the next sexual conquest.

The BLM is another alphabet agency that needs to be abolished. The Federal Govt is getting closer to finding out just how fed up the non moochers are in this country.

A rifle behind every blade of grass.

Exninja on April 12, 2014 at 5:38 PM

No matter how this turns out in the end, this development proves one thing. The 2nd Amendment is important. If thousands of supporters had shown up unarmed, we’d be reading a different story right now.

The Rogue Tomato on April 12, 2014 at 5:39 PM

From the ThinkProgress link:

a local rancher for believes that he should not have to follow federal court orders.

And yet if the ThinkProgress Cult Leader who is currently President decides not to follow federal court orders, ThinkProgress will stand up and cheer him for his bravery in standing up to his Racist critics…

Del Dolemonte on April 12, 2014 at 5:39 PM

But what about the desert tortises? If this harms the desert tortises, then what is the Fish and Wildlife Service going to euthanize?

rbj on April 12, 2014 at 5:37 PM

They’re probably hightailing it out as we speak. Running away for safer ground.

Mimzey on April 12, 2014 at 5:40 PM

It’s my understanding that this is Clark County, Nevada land – and Bundy has been paying the state grazing fees. The premise the Feds used to move in (and start charging Bundy) is supposedly the endangered desert tortoise. This premise is complete bull. There’s so many turtles out there that the Feds have actually been euthanizing some of them. In the past 20 years. all other ranchers in this area have been driven out – and Bundy is the last one standing.

TarheelBen on April 12, 2014 at 5:42 PM

We’ve been discussing this on Twitter for a while, but I was waiting to see how the story would end out in Nevada.

Because goodness knows it wasn’t worth writing about before it ‘ended’, or something.

Midas on April 12, 2014 at 5:42 PM

I find it a little odd that (unless I missed something) HotAir hasn’t covered this story until now.

Missy on April 12, 2014 at 5:42 PM

New from Congress: BLM to bid on surplus Air Force A-10s. Spokesman cites “Better service to the public.”

PersonFromPorlock on April 12, 2014 at 5:42 PM

This is not a victory.

oscarwilde on April 12, 2014 at 5:43 PM

In another era, Bundy would likely have been quietly run out of business and – literally – lost the farm this would never have happened.

FIFY Jazz.

bgibbs1000 on April 12, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Did the guy get his cattle back??

If not, then how is this a victory for him. The Feds withdraw after the operation has succeeded in expropriating his cattle. Is he then going to put a new herd on the land just to have it confiscated again? Sounds like the Feds are using the tactics of the drug war against this senior citizen.

anotherJoe on April 12, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Wait, no credit for the discovery of the Harry Reid and Chinese solar connection popping up?

TheGarbone on April 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

. . . . . (And before we get too far ahead of ourselves, I seriously doubt this is “over” in the long run.) . . . . .

Jazz Shaw on April 12, 2014 at 5:31 pm

.
No . . . . . it definitely is not.

listens2glenn on April 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Did the guy get his cattle back??

If not, then how is this a victory for him. The Feds withdraw after the operation has succeeded in expropriating his cattle. Is he then going to put a new herd on the land just to have it confiscated again? Sounds like the Feds are using the tactics of the drug war against this senior citizen.

anotherJoe on April 12, 2014 at 5:45 PM

From the reports I read the Feds have been killing the cattle.

jawkneemusic on April 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

As much as I am a strong supporter of states rights and personal freedom, Bundy hasn’t been doing himself any favors with his deportment in all this.

I saw this tangentially to the standoff and wondered how many other counties, or even states, might be scratching their heads about where the BLM came up with the manpower and resources to stage this show of force.

CEDAR CITY — Clark County rancher Cliven Bundy has been fighting a range war with the federal government for nearly 20 years, but this time around, he’s getting help from unexpected sources located about 85 miles away in Iron County.
In a notice sent Tuesday directed to the Bureau of Land Management deputy director Neil Kornze and the Nevada BLM state director Amy Lueders, the Iron County Commissioners and Sheriff Mark Gower warned that any action taken by the BLM to gather and confiscate Bundy’s cattle currently grazing on Clark County public lands would warrant Iron County to begin immediately taking steps to reduce the number of feral horses in Southern Utah.
“You are officially put on notice that at the moment any action in Clark County, Nevada is taken to gather and confiscate private cattle without managing your own responsibility of feral horses in West Iron County to appropriate management levels, orders will be given to the Iron County Sheriff, deputies and other authorized agents to take necessary means to reduce the numbers of feral horses . . . This is not a threat. This is a plan of action,” the notice states.
The BLM is in the process of preparing to impound hundreds of Bundy’s cattle left on the public land after the government ordered him to remove them nearly 20 years ago. Bundy has been fighting ever since.
The BLM notified Bundy of its plans to impound his livestock March 19 and has followed that up the last couple of days by barricading the area Bundy ‘s livestock grazes in.
It is this action, the commissioners argue, that prompted them to write the notice to the BLM.
Iron County Commissioner Dave Miller said the federal government has used a lack of financial resources as the reason for not managing the feral horses. Yet the price tag for rounding up Bundy’s livestock is close to $2 million dollars.
“If they don’t have the money to manage the feral horses then they don’t have $2 million dollars to rustle up Cliven Bundy’s private property,” he said.
Part of the $2 million includes $300,000 to an auction in Utah who has agreed take the cattle off the BLM’s hands since no auction company in Nevada would take them, Miller said.
Governor Gary Herbert’s Chief of Staff Mike Mower said Tuesday the governor views this as a Nevada issue that should be resolved there and does not believe the cattle belong in Utah.
Likewise Mower said Herbert is concerned about the overpopulation of feral horses.
“The governor is aware and shares the concerns of the commission about the range lands in the west desert and wants make sure there is viable grazing land for the permit holders of that area,” he said.
Matt Wood, an Iron County rancher who grazes about 300 head of cattle, was one of about 200 ranchers on the west desert asked to reduce their allotments by 50 percent this coming summer.
“This is 50 percent on top of the 50 percent they’ve already had me cut through the years,” he said.
Under the Free Roaming Horse and Burro Act of 1971, the secretary of Interior is tasked with immediately removing an overpopulation of horses from the range to achieve appropriate management levels.
The fact that the federal government is asking ranchers to reduce their head of cattle when they aren’t doing anything to cut the numbers of horses on the range is part of the problem, Miller said.
The commission gives the agency until April 4 to bring the numbers of the wild horse populations into compliance according to the law.
Miller said the commission is prepared to do what it takes to manage the wild horses if the BLM decides to ignore their notice.

(Sorry about the length, I couldn’t find the original link…)

Ace ODale on April 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Dirty Harry will be back….

albill on April 12, 2014 at 5:48 PM

I notice that HA and other conservative websites are finally starting to report on this tyranny. Oh yea…the midterms. For live streaming go to;

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/04/breaking-live-video-feed-bundy-supporters-mobilizing-to-take-back-cattle/

Jackson on April 12, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Nothing on this at Ace’s place except for a passing link in the left column…

Ace ODale on April 12, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Western states need to assert their claims to land within their borders before it’s too late (if it isn’t already).

Agenda 21 population control map for USA http://www.dcclothesline.com/2013/11/17/agenda-21-population-control-map-usa/

petefrt on April 12, 2014 at 5:50 PM

If he owes the fees, he needs to pay the fees.
If the government has not been providing the service the fees are for, then he should owe a reduced fee or no fee.
Has this been through any court to know what the truth is?

In any case, the government way over stepped its bounds in trying to enforce a financial issue.

astonerii on April 12, 2014 at 5:52 PM

This guy should pay his grazing fees but the fed should not own that land. Oh…and eff the turtle.

CW on April 12, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Bundy Fund?

WryTrvllr on April 12, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Anyone know of a real one?

WryTrvllr on April 12, 2014 at 5:53 PM

Probably not a coincidence the BLM backed off after Harry Reid’s ties to this became known.

supernova on April 12, 2014 at 5:53 PM

Hey, BLM, we got some land down by the Mexican Border that needs Control and Management !!!

Yep, Just head South…….you’ll notice the Illegal, I’m sure.

JayTee on April 12, 2014 at 5:53 PM

Feds just need to get it out of the spotlight. They’ll creep back in the back door when the fuss has died down. Harry has promises to keep.

butch on April 12, 2014 at 5:55 PM

They were not deliberately killing cattle from what I heard, but rounding them up as quickly as possible which did result in some losses. However a lot of head of cattle did end up being removed from the property and are supposedly being auctioned off anyways.

Bundy may have only 200-300 cattle left, and the BLM may decide that they can live with that few for whatever reason and claim victory. Bundy will have no income or a reduced income for years to rebuild his herd.

OregonPolitician on April 12, 2014 at 5:56 PM

This guy should pay his grazing fees but the fed should not own that land. Oh…and eff the turtle.

CW on April 12, 2014 at 5:52 PM

He has paid all his Nevada fees – but Bundy disputes that he owes the Feds. The Feds claim he owes over $1 million in fees – because of the desert tortoise I suppose.

TarheelBen on April 12, 2014 at 5:56 PM

Now why didn’t Janet and Billy-Boy have enough sense to quit before the bombs started falling?

slickwillie2001 on April 12, 2014 at 5:57 PM

There is no victory here. Its a strategic retreat. Obama and his bureaucratic minions are much to vindictive and power obsessed. I wouldnt be surprised if the minute the protesters go home, action is taken against the Bundy family.

This entire event shows where we are losing the war against government. This man has every right to deal with Nevada for use of its land. The Constitution places no authority for local land use in the hands of the feds BUT judges have ignored our founding documents time after time. Now the law is but a mess of federal regulations founded on political whim and decisions regarding that mess,left in the hands’ of activists in black robes.

The left is being typically short sighted and sees this merely as an “us vs them”. Im sure they would be all “occupy”-ed up if it were illegal immigrants being threatened with deportation.

alecj on April 12, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Did the guy get his cattle back??

If not, then how is this a victory for him. The Feds withdraw after the operation has succeeded in expropriating his cattle. Is he then going to put a new herd on the land just to have it confiscated again? Sounds like the Feds are using the tactics of the drug war against this senior citizen.

anotherJoe on April 12, 2014 at 5:45 PM

From the reports I read the Feds have been killing the cattle.

jawkneemusic on April 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

That’s why this ended, Dingy Harry’s freezer and all those folks from BLM have enough beef to last through a Summer of grilling.

slickwillie2001 on April 12, 2014 at 5:58 PM

The feds always have such great names for these operations:

Ruby Ridge – “Northern Exposure”
Waco massacre – “Showtime”
Obama & Holder’s illegal gun running – “Fast & Furious”

I wonder what great name they came up with for the operation against Cliven Bundy.

RJL on April 12, 2014 at 5:59 PM

In another era, Bundy would likely have been quietly run out of business and – literally – lost the farm.

In another era? Really? I remember a post from MKH less than a year ago where an oyster “farmer” in California was run out of business cause they were accused of environmental damage to the federal lands they were on. They are history.

Here it is!

NavyMustang on April 12, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Obama’s response to a cattle farmer not paying his dues was 1000000x more forceful than his response to an attack on an American Ambassador in Benghazi.

Murphy9 on April 12, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Ruby Ridge ended with a murder notice penciled in a handwritten note. the culprit was later promoted. George HW Bush presiding.

Lonetown on April 12, 2014 at 5:59 PM

http://danaloeschradio.com/the-real-story-of-the-bundy-ranch/

*UPDATE: Those who say Bundy is a “deadbeat” are making inaccurate claims. Bundy has in fact paid fees to Clark County, Nevada in an arrangement pre-dating the BLM. The BLM arrived much later, changed the details of the setup without consulting with Bundy — or any other rancher — and then began systematically driving out cattle and ranchers. Bundy refused to pay BLM, especially after they demanded he reduce his heard’s head count down to a level that would not sustain his ranch. Bundy OWNS the water and forage rights to this land. He paid for these rights. He built fences, established water ways, and constructed roads with his own money, with the approval of Nevada and BLM. When BLM started using his fees to run him off the land and harassing him, he ceased paying. So should BLM reimburse him for managing the land and for the confiscation of his water and forage rights?

sharrukin on April 12, 2014 at 6:00 PM

Maybe America needs to wake up and do something similar to stop Obamacare.

A couple million people marching on the White House would get Dear Leader’s attention.

NavyMustang on April 12, 2014 at 6:00 PM

This guy should pay his grazing fees but the fed should not own that land. Oh…and eff the turtle.

CW on April 12, 2014 at 5:52 PM

*UPDATE: Those who say Bundy is a “deadbeat” are making inaccurate claims. Bundy has in fact paid fees to Clark County, Nevada in an arrangement pre-dating the BLM. The BLM arrived much later, changed the details of the setup without consulting with Bundy — or any other rancher — and then began systematically driving out cattle and ranchers. Bundy refused to pay BLM, especially after they demanded he reduce his heard’s head count down to a level that would not sustain his ranch. Bundy OWNS the water and forage rights to this land. He paid for these rights. He built fences, established water ways, and constructed roads with his own money, with the approval of Nevada and BLM. When BLM started using his fees to run him off the land and harassing him, he ceased paying. So should BLM reimburse him for managing the land and for the confiscation of his water and forage rights?

oscarwilde on April 12, 2014 at 6:00 PM

It’s a tactical withdrawal. The feds recognize the real possibility of bloodshed if they continued the operation. This isn’t Ruby Ridge or Waco where they have overwhelming tactical advantages. Some of them would surely die too, and that makes it a whole different ball game.

They bit off more than they could chew. I expect the next force move to be against Cliven Bundy personally, probably in the form of serving an arrest warrant for contempt of court. Much easier tactically to make the pointed expression of force required to make an arrest than to control large areas for extended periods in the face of armed resistance as they attempted to do.

I’m very curious to see if the Harry Reid connection proves out. It’s highly coincidental that the BLM honcho is Reid’s former aide, and this pullback comes on the heels of reports that the end game is making the property available for development by a Chinese-backed solar energy company connected to Reid through his son.

novaculus on April 12, 2014 at 6:01 PM

It is becoming more difficult for the federal government to murder it’s subjects, thanks to Al Gore’s interweb.

Unlike Waco or Ruby Ridge, the latest planned slaughter was interrupted by Youtube. Can you imagine That FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi have decapitated Randy Weaver’s wife with a bullet knowing that it would have been broadcast all over the internet?

Is Horiuchi still getting paid to murder women holding babies?

Exninja on April 12, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Damn, that land looks barren. Cattle have to be marathoners to get to their next mouthful of grass.

butch on April 12, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Alex Jones and Drudge put up stories of Harry Reid, the Chinese and a 5 Billion dollar solar farm yesterday and less then 24 hours later the BLM pulls out. Sure. It stinketh much!!!

dddave on April 12, 2014 at 6:03 PM

Problem is, that the story goes bye bye, and Harry Reid won’t be prosecuted.

oscarwilde on April 12, 2014 at 6:04 PM

They stopped as soon as they learned it wasn’t wagyu.

Christien on April 12, 2014 at 6:05 PM

Follow the money … its always about the money when the Feds are involved.

Ace ODale on April 12, 2014 at 6:06 PM

(Sorry about the length, I couldn’t find the original link…)

Ace ODale on April 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Is this it?

http://news.yahoo.com/wild-horses-targeted-roundup-utah-rangeland-clash-002247077–finance.html;_ylt=AwrBJR9gjEhTkXsAzZ3QtDMD

bluefox on April 12, 2014 at 6:08 PM

We’ve been discussing this on Twitter for a while, but I was waiting to see how the story would end out in Nevada.

Because goodness knows it wasn’t worth writing about before it ‘ended’, or something.
Midas on April 12, 2014 at 5:42 PM

Because the real scoop, if you go to Drudge, is the link to I-N-F-0 Warts which is blacklisted on Hot air

I find it a little odd that (unless I missed something) HotAir hasn’t covered this story until now.
Missy on April 12, 2014 at 5:42 PM

IMHO they still aren’t covering it. They present the issue as a tax protest. If they were really following twitter from people who were there – they would know the real story is huge

Wait, no credit for the discovery of the Harry Reid and Chinese solar connection popping up?
TheGarbone on April 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

None. I supply the following without attribution, since the website which has the real story is blacklisted by HA. You can get to the site via drudge, chinese land grab, scroll down to ‘we revealed how’

“The Bureau of Land Management, whose director was Sen. Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) former senior adviser, has purged documents from its web site stating that the agency wants Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s cattle off of the land his family has worked for over 140 years in order to make way for solar panel power stations.
the BLM document entitled “Cattle Trespass Impacts” directly states that Bundy’s cattle “impacts” solar development, more specifically the construction of “utility-scale solar power generation facilities” on “public lands.”

“Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle,” the document states.”

Reid’s son represents the chinese company, helped buy a huge land tract below value from the county where he used to be commissioner

I think everyone should be concerned – about the absence of interest in this information

entagor on April 12, 2014 at 6:11 PM

Ace ODale on April 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

I found a link here, too:

http://www.thespectrum.com/article/20140401/NEWS01/304010022/County-Commissioners-issue-ultimatum?nclick_check=1

The Spectrum is out of St George, UT

Newtie and the Beauty on April 12, 2014 at 6:11 PM

I see three possible reasons for the withdrawal:

1) It is a trick to get those who came to support Bundy to go home. The Feds go in, and strike harder and quicker. The Federales are probably suffering from “Waco interruptus” and will seek relief eventually.

2) It may have been [although I doubt it] that the arrival of enough militia types changed to correlation of forces enough that any Harry Reid/BLM victory would have come at too high a cost.

3) The connections of Harry Reid, his former Senior Policy Advisor Neil Kornze [who was confirmed as head of the BLM a few days ago after being the acting head for months], Reid’s lobbyist son Rory [all 4 of Harry Reid's sons are very well paid lobbyists, surprise, surprise] brokering a deal with a Chinese company to put a solar plant on the ranch land after the BLM takes it and “leases” it to them, the theft of the senior (1870) water rights over 1200 square miles [if you are not a Westerner, you have no idea how valuable water rights are, being worth more than the land], and the kickbacks attendant to all of that are coming out. Reid may want to let things die down a little.

And there is the detail that the Federal government wants to insert into our consciousness:

The Federal government is working on teaching the American people that ANY encounter with the Federal government wherein there is less than instant, absolute submission to what the Federal bureaucrat wants carries a measurable chance of deadly force being used against you, with absolutely no accountability for their actions.

From Waco and Ruby Ridge on, Federal “law enforcement” has time after time assaulted and sometimes killed civilians, frequently innocent civilians because they attacked the wrong location; and no one has been held accountable. Obama himself claims the right to kill American citizens on American soil with no due process.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/02/07/obama-gives-himself-permission-to-kill/

They will be back. If they don’t come back, it means that there can be limits on the absolute power of the Executive Branch. They will not tolerate that.

Subotai Bahadur on April 12, 2014 at 6:11 PM

bluefox on April 12, 2014 at 6:08 PM

No, not quite the one I’d been looking for, but that’uns good, too.

Ace ODale on April 12, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Interesting situation. The Clven family started ranching in Clark County just after Nevada became a state, according to what the family has said. When and under what auspices did the Feds begin to control so much land in the state? Almost all of it not used for cities is under federal control. Why does the Federal government own the land at all? I’m glad it didn’t turn ino an armed confrontation, and their are plenty of kooks on both sides of this mess, but the Feds obviously don’t give a damn about the desert tortoise they claim o want to “protect”, since just a few months ago hundreds were euthanized by the BLM on this same lad. This was about power and control, and (if rumors are to be believed) about clearing the family off the land so Harry Reid and his son can sell it to a Chinese solar power company.

I can’t wait for our active free press to get to the bottom of this mess.

MTF on April 12, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Alright all you cows! I’m giving you to the count of ten and you had all better come out with your hands up! You are all trespassing on Harry Reid’s land. He can’t very well sell it to that nice big Chinese firm to build a giant American taxpayer subsidized bird frying solar array and get his 10% if you’re still there.

What’s that? Oh, we have to do a strategic advance to the rear, Harry. And then we’ll come back later when the heat has died down. Got it! We’ll be back cows!

VorDaj on April 12, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on April 12, 2014 at 6:11 PM

That’d be the one!

Thanks, Newtie.

Ace ODale on April 12, 2014 at 6:15 PM

This was a victory for today. These people went and faced down the heavily armed BLM and drove them off. Bundy gets his cattle back…victory…for today. This is how it needs to be done. Take it to the streets (or range) and in their face. Sitting around waiting for and thinking that electing more politicians is going to change anything is a waste of time. Not saying don’t vote but direct action is what is called for. How about another investigation Issa?

Jackson on April 12, 2014 at 6:17 PM

Immigration law: Optional

BLM grazing fees: Requires snipers to enforce

So says Eric Holder. I wonder….what would this story be if Bundy was black?

BobMbx on April 12, 2014 at 6:18 PM

Uh, no, Bundy doesn’t get his cattle back. Many have already been slaughtered on site and several trucks with cattle earlier left the area. Those cows are gone. The only victory is that the Feds didn’t get all the cattle…

But completely agree with you that we all need to be more engaged.

Ace ODale on April 12, 2014 at 6:20 PM

OregonPolitician on April 12, 2014 at 5:56 PM

Any violations of the 4th and 5th Amendments that you can see?

Amendment 4 – Search and Seizure. Ratified 12/15/1791.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment 5 – Trial and Punishment, Compensation for Takings. Ratified 12/15/1791.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Source: The US Constitution

Newtie and the Beauty on April 12, 2014 at 6:21 PM

We can’t call this a victory unless BLM gives Bundy his cows back. It could be they are just waiting for this to die down – and then they’ll go back and grab more of his cows – until he’s pretty much out of business.

The real question is – why do the Feds want this land so bad? The turtle excuse is completely bogus – so maybe there is truth to the Dingy Harry – Chinese solar company story. Regardless, I think if you were to dig you would find Harry Reid’s paws all over this.

TarheelBen on April 12, 2014 at 6:22 PM

Dingy Harry and his boys are not done…they have big plans for some of that land….

d1carter on April 12, 2014 at 6:23 PM

This is not a victory.

An armed operation has been suspended not cancelled. It is only a change of tactics. Sometimes the law is a better way to bankrupt and destroy. Can anybody say “Court Costs, Lawyer Fees & Judgements”?

CiLH1 on April 12, 2014 at 6:23 PM

Ace ODale on April 12, 2014 at 6:20 PM

He got the cattle back that the BLM didn’t kill. I watched it happen on the live stream. Hopefully there these details will come to light. FNC has done some reporting.

Jackson on April 12, 2014 at 6:24 PM

Glad to find an article here….msm is ignoring the story other than a few on-line stories

Bundy could have left quietly like so many other cattle ranchers, but he stood his ground and Americans across the country stood with him

Victory for all of us…

Redford on April 12, 2014 at 6:25 PM

The United States Federal Government won’t enforce immigration law, but it will send armed Bureau of Land Management Agents, to provide and electric shock to, threaten to shoot, and steal the animals of, a private American Citizen. Why?

And why isn’t PETA screaming from the rooftops about the treatment of Bundy’s animals? Where are they? Will they be returned, or did the BLM, led by a Harry Reid sycophant, just illegally seize Bundy’s property?

This was a dry-run, guaranteed. And I hope the citizenry learned something from this…because guaranteed the Feds are plotting their next action, with the lessons of this one to guide them.

And why the hell are BLM personnel armed in the first place? Does every single alphabet agent of the Feds have a firearm now?
Maybe that’s why DHS needs all those rounds.

a5minmajor on April 12, 2014 at 6:26 PM

Wait, no credit for the discovery of the Harry Reid and Chinese solar connection popping up?

TheGarbone on April 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Don’t forget Reid’s son Rory, who seems to be coordinating this, and Reid’s granddaughter, who will probably get a couple million in jewelry sales as a result.

bw222 on April 12, 2014 at 6:27 PM

The corruption in our government is so bad that this BLM is small patatoes compared to the scandals within the White House. I needn’t list them.

mixplix on April 12, 2014 at 6:30 PM

I was waiting to see how the story would end out in Nevada

Always a solid strategy when blogging on news Jazz…

DarkCurrent on April 12, 2014 at 6:31 PM

I was beginning to think that HA had quit covering “local” stories…

d1carter on April 12, 2014 at 6:31 PM

This whole mess is wrong on so many levels.

But the real issue here is how military-like our government has become, and how willing the police are to kill and injure Americans in order to project their power.

We are on a slippery slope, and I think we are going to find it hard to put the genie back into its bottle.

KMC1 on April 12, 2014 at 6:31 PM

“The people of Nevada have got to know that their Senior Senator is not a crook. Well, I am not a crook!” – Harry Milhouse Reid

VorDaj on April 12, 2014 at 6:32 PM

And why the hell are BLM personnel armed in the first place? Does every single alphabet agent of the Feds have a firearm now?
Maybe that’s why DHS needs all those rounds.

a5minmajor on April 12, 2014 at 6:26 PM

Just about all of these federal agencies have armed agents now, including NOAH and the Department of Education. Perhaps this is the civilian police force that Obama once spoke of. These are scary times.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/04/06/what-does-the-national-oceanic-and-atmospheric-administration-need-with-96-armed-agents/

TarheelBen on April 12, 2014 at 6:32 PM

Wait, no credit for the discovery of the Harry Reid and Chinese solar connection popping up?

TheGarbone on April 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Exactly!
This has been going on with dingy, dirty, vile, lying, hairy reid with the unions forever. He came in as a poor dumb lawyer and has ended up a millionaire. Thank G-d the people of Nevada were too smart to put rory in as gov of the state.
It’s about time the curtain was removed from this crook and his sins were exposed to the light of day.
Can you imagine he was willing to do this and risk people’s lives and he didn’t give a darn.

How about it fellow Mormons, is this the kind of person who follows Jesus Christ?
We all know he bore false witness against Gov Mitt Romney and he’s doing it now with the Koch brothers. Nothing is true, notice he does it from the senate floor so he can’t be sued.
Enough is enough, Nevada. How can he still represent you?

Bambi on April 12, 2014 at 6:32 PM

Yep, the have put the dogs and the tasers up for a few days…to plot a better course to control Americans.

d1carter on April 12, 2014 at 6:33 PM

Ace ODale on April 12, 2014 at 6:15 PM

Glad to be of help, Ace–but bluefox’s link has a few surprises in it, too.

Newtie and the Beauty on April 12, 2014 at 6:35 PM

mixplix on April 12, 2014 at 6:30 PM

Tyranny by any gov’t agency is not “small potatoes”. I don’t trust any of the gov’t. They haven’t earned anyone’s trust or respect including the DoD.

Jackson on April 12, 2014 at 6:35 PM

They’re just regrouping. I shudder to think what comes next.

scalleywag on April 12, 2014 at 6:36 PM

I was beginning to think that HA had quit covering “local” stories…

d1carter on April 12, 2014 at 6:31 PM

Hotair now leads from behind.

VorDaj on April 12, 2014 at 6:37 PM

Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn’t the federal government been mortgaging a lot of federal land to the Chinese as payment for our borrowing money from them?

onlineanalyst on April 12, 2014 at 6:38 PM

09-06-2012 The New American
Rory Reid, the eldest son of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), is the chief representative for a Chinese energy firm planning to build a $5-billion solar plant on public land in Laughlin, Nevada. ENN Energy Group, a clean-energy firm that manufactures a range of renewable-energy products, is seeking to construct its solar panel facility on a 9,000-acre stretch of land on a Clark County desert plot.

The controversy stems from the fact that Clark County officials voted to sell ENN the public land for $4.5 million, a figure startlingly below the $38.6-million appraisal. Conveniently, Sen. Reid has been one of ENN’s most prominent supporters, having helped mobilize the firm during a 2011 trip to China

Mitigation means, when you build a 9000 acre roasting oven in the desert, you have to, theoretically, prove that some other part of the desert has been set aside and restored to pristine beauty to make up for the ravages of your roasting ovens.

That is where Bundy comes in. Kill the cattle, you get kill two birds with one stone

And when you say ENN is a ‘Chinese company’ consider this:

To expedite the project, ENN recruited Nevada’s largest and most renowned law firm, Lionel Sawyer & Collins, where Rory Reid works. Moreover, Richard Bryan, who has an extensive history in the state’s political system — a former Nevada governor, attorney general, and U.S. senator — heads the Chinese energy firm. emphasis mine

They almost pulled this one off. They (the MSM, the fed and local officials, and even blogs that refused to post the truth) almost made this into a poor man’s Waco. A wacko-bird who thought he owned the People’s Desert.

Two kinds of Liars. Those who lie, and those who hold back the truth

entagor on April 12, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Today Americans gave tyranny the finger . . . literally.

WannabeAnglican on April 12, 2014 at 6:42 PM

Hey Hot Air, since you’ve a bit late to the Bundy Ranch story, how about one on how this whole thing started?

Like, this dispute has been going on for two decades and now that Harry Reid and his Chinese solar firm are ready to get the ball rolling on their 500 billion dollar project on Bundy’s ranch, they needed to get him off so they used the BLM (who happens to have a newly appointed head that was Harry Reid’s political adviser just a few years ago)to get gunned up and threaten this man out of his century old family business?

How’s that for a long sentence??

How about THAT story Hot Air???

katy on April 12, 2014 at 6:44 PM

We’ve been discussing this on Twitter for a while, but I was waiting to see how the story would end out in Nevada.

Yeah, and my dog ate my frickin’ homework.

This “story” didn’t start this morning. Lame. Horribly lame.

bofh on April 12, 2014 at 6:46 PM

I wish to thank Matt Drudge, and The-Blogger-Who-Cannot-Be-Named for carrying the flag for the Bundys

Drudge I want to hug you, and Blogger-Who-Cannot-Be-Named, and Free Republic citizens who also dug deep to uncover the conspiracy

I want to thank the entire Bundy family for fighting against the Leviathin. I am sorry for the suffering you have endured. I hope something will be set up so people like me can help this proud family in their fight, which I am certain is not over

The IRS is still working the tea party. I assume the Feds will work on the Bundys until they get them to cry Uncle Sam

God Bless You all who are fighting the good fight

There is an election coming. I do believe they were hoping for an event they could run on.

entagor on April 12, 2014 at 6:48 PM

The controversy stems from the fact that Clark County officials voted to sell ENN the public land for $4.5 million, a figure startlingly below the $38.6-million appraisal

This is why you need to pay attention to local politics also.

Barred on April 12, 2014 at 6:48 PM

The feds left because they were finished with what they came to do. They came to confiscate the cattle and they have done so.

Bundy is in talks with the feds, looking for a solution.

So far, Bundy has lost $900,000 worth of cattle. Whether he gets them back, no one knows.

There is no winner here, but there are plenty of losers.

Meremortal on April 12, 2014 at 6:50 PM

And yet if the ThinkProgress Cult Leader who is currently President decides not to follow federal court orders, ThinkProgress will stand up and cheer him for his bravery in standing up to his Racist critics…

Del Dolemonte

Kind of like how they stand up for illegal aliens violating federal law.

xblade on April 12, 2014 at 6:50 PM

Imagine the HotAir hit count if no story was covered until it was over.

Missy on April 12, 2014 at 6:51 PM

I find it a little odd that (unless I missed something) HotAir hasn’t covered this story until now.
Missy on April 12, 2014 at 5:42 PM

They were too busy looking for a way to tie it to ghey marriage or amnesty.

Buck Farack

Nutstuyu on April 12, 2014 at 6:51 PM

Huh.

You know they’re just trying to deescalate the situation until the protestors leave, then they’ll swoop back in and finish what they started, post-haste. They won’t make the mistake of dragging their feet again.

mintycrys on April 12, 2014 at 6:51 PM

I wish to thank Matt Drudge, and The-Blogger-Who-Cannot-Be-Named for carrying the flag for the Bundys

Drudge I want to hug you, and Blogger-Who-Cannot-Be-Named, and Free Republic citizens who also dug deep to uncover the conspiracy

I want to thank the entire Bundy family for fighting against the Leviathin. I am sorry for the suffering you have endured. I hope something will be set up so people like me can help this proud family in their fight, which I am certain is not over

The IRS is still working the tea party. I assume the Feds will work on the Bundys until they get them to cry Uncle Sam

God Bless You all who are fighting the good fight

There is an election coming. I do believe they were hoping for an event they could run on.

entagor on April 12, 2014 at 6:48 PM

Couldn’t have said that better myself. And that Blogger-Who-Cannot-Be- Named did more for liberty and this country than all the so called “alternative” media combined.

katy on April 12, 2014 at 6:53 PM

They have the other alphabet agencies to go after him. They’ll probably seize his bank account. I hope he has his money under the mattress.

The reason for the government holding so much land goes back to Nevada being a late state. It was a territory. Most of it wasn’t fit to use for anything except a few cities so the government(people) still has that land. It is however public land and belongs to the people.

crankyoldlady on April 12, 2014 at 6:55 PM

entagor, katy – agreed.

Missy on April 12, 2014 at 6:55 PM

The Bundy family aren’t the only ones.

http://blog.heritage.org/2013/06/11/court-rebuffs-government-overreach-in-nevada/

The 104-page opinion by U.S. District Court Judge Robert C. Jones on May 23 in Nevada tells a sordid and infuriating tale of a two-decades-long conspiracy among federal employees of the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) of the Department of the Interior to deny the grazing rights of a Nevada ranching family, interfere with their water rights, and destroy their cattle business by scaring away their customers.

Judge Jones did not mince words: “[T]he Government’s actions over the past two decades shocks the conscience of the Court.” The judge concluded that the government denied the renewal of the Hages’ grazing permit for a “nonsensical” reason that was “arbitrary” and “vindictive.” The employees of the BLM “entered into a literal, intentional conspiracy to deprive the Hages not only of their permits but also of their vested water rights.” Some of the Hages’ “vested stock watering rights” on local streams and wells dated back as far as 1866 and 1874; most of them had been established by late 1800s and early 1900s.

sharrukin on April 12, 2014 at 6:56 PM

I hope this is just the beginning. I said it would take a leader to stand up to the storm troopers. Who would have thought it would be a 65 year old rancher. You congress people should be ashamed of yourselves for your cowardess.

crankyoldlady on April 12, 2014 at 6:57 PM

Meremortal on April 12, 2014 at 6:50 PM

Not true,

The Feds shot two bulls and they lost about 130 head to heat exhaustion from helicopter herding and separating calves from the mothers and at 1500 a head, that’s a little over 200,000.

No one knows if he is talks with the Feds. You’re making sh!t up. Stop it.

katy on April 12, 2014 at 6:57 PM

Bottom line.

Back off, Obama. You’ve overstepped and you just ran rammed rod into the Tea Party.

You gonna lose, punk.

Key West Reader on April 12, 2014 at 6:58 PM

The behavior of the federal agents has been nothing short of appalling, with armed intruders, the removal of Bundy’s cattle and various military might deployed to the land where these cattle have grazed for generations.

I can understand why an outfit like ABC News might use the word, but Jazz?

If someone comes into my house and, without my permission, deliberately “removes” my television and carts it off somewhere, is that the best available word to describe the act?

Lolo on April 12, 2014 at 6:59 PM

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