Report: 40-50 House conservatives plotting to oust Boehner as Speaker

posted at 12:01 pm on April 10, 2014 by Allahpundit

If this feels like deja vu, it’s because Jonathan Strong of Breitbart reported the same thing more than two weeks ago. According to his and National Journal’s sources, there are now 40-50 Republicans in the House who are quietly committed to voting against Boehner in the next Speaker election in January — if he hasn’t already retired by then. That would deny him the majority he needs to take the gavel. Faced with the prospect of that humiliation, the thinking goes, he’ll quit before it ever comes to that. This story and Strong’s are the insurgents’ way of warning him to go away before he’s fired.

One new key detail: Cantor’s also on thin ice with tea partiers after orchestrating that embarrassing, and clearly fraudulent, voice vote on “doc fix” a few weeks ago. If he wants to succeed Boehner, he may have to appease the insurgents by replacing House whip Kevin McCarthy with a stalwart conservative as the new majority leader.

The masterminds of this mutiny are trying to stay in the shadows for as long as possible to avoid putting a target on their backs. But one Republican said the “nucleus”of the rebellion can be found inside the House Liberty Caucus, of which he and his comrades are members. This is not surprising, considering that some of the key players in that group—Justin Amash of Michigan, Raul Labrador of Idaho, and Thomas Massie of Kentucky—were among the 12 Republicans who refused to back Boehner’s reelection in January 2012…

With Boehner out of town in late March, Cantor was charged with pushing a “doc fix” bill across the finish line. When it became apparent the measure might not clear the House floor, Cantor authorized a voice vote, allowing the bill to pass without registered resistance. This maneuver infuriated conservatives, who felt that leadership—Cantor in particular—had cheated them. Rep. Mick Mulvaney of South Caroline yelled “Bullshit!” outside the House chamber…

Cantor told conservatives that a voice vote was “the least-bad option,” given the circumstances. But many Republicans aren’t buying it. Moreover, they said that with Boehner out of town, Cantor had an opportunity to impress them with his management of the conference—and didn’t.

“It’s an issue of trust. If you want to have a majority that is governing, and a majority that is following the leader, the rest of us need to be in a position where we trust our leadership,” Labrador said this week, adding, “When you have politicians actually playing tricks on their own party, and their own members of Congress, I think that erodes the trust the American people have in the rest of us.”

Said one House GOPer, “If there’s another vote like [that], Eric won’t be speaker. Ever.”

Could be this is all just a bluff to scare Boehner into appointing more conservatives to key committee posts. If, say, there are only 20-25 conservatives committed to ousting him, not 40-50, then he might survive a new insurrection from the right in January. By making him think now that their numbers are greater than they really are, House conservatives might muscle him into quitting or at least making concessions to them. (First concession: No more voice votes.) The problem, highlighted by National Journal, is that no one wants to risk Boehner’s wrath by volunteering to be the insurgents’ nominee for leadership. Both Jeb Hensarling and Jim Jordan have reportedly refused, maybe because they really don’t want to be in leadership or maybe because they fear stepping on Boehner’s toes right now when his future is still undetermined. Paul Ryan wants to lead Ways and Means, I think, not join the leadership, and even if he did, would he still have conservative support after the grumbling over his budget deal last fall? The insurgents could try something really bold and nominate someone new to Congress, like Labrador, but Boehner loyalists might dig in and block him right back in retaliation for ousting their guy. The insurgents need someone who’s liked by both wings of the caucus and who has enough seniority that even their opponents would be comfortable with him as majority leader or Speaker.

Here’s an out-of-the-box idea for you. Since Boehner’s the most centrist option among Republicans who might plausibly be elected Speaker next year, and since there’s at least a chance that conservatives will frighten him into retirement with threats of toppling him when the next House is seated, why doesn’t Pelosi approach Boehner and promise to get Democrats to vote for him if need be so that he can keep the gavel? If he’s stuck at, say, 210 votes because 40 conservatives refuse to vote for him, find 10 Dems who’ll get him to 220. It’s in their own interest to do it: Boehner would be much more pliable than a Speaker Cantor controlled by tea partiers would be, especially if Boehner owes his Speakership to Pelosi and the Dems. Democrats have nothing to lose in giving him those votes either, since there’s zero chance that Pelosi or anyone else on their side is getting to 218. Why note vote strategically and protect a guy from the other party who’s your least bad option as Speaker? Maybe he’ll even reward them by bringing immigration reform to the floor and letting them pass it with a few dozen Boehner loyalists on the GOP side. Fun!


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You’re old enough to know better so cry baby cry

jaywemm on April 10, 2014 at 12:05 PM

Bye, Mr. Weepy.

Joe Mama on April 10, 2014 at 12:05 PM

Only 40-50?!? We’re doomed!

PaddyORyan on April 10, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Face it, Boehner has done a crappy job with what is arguably the most powerful job in government. He’s caved on key Republican principles in an effort to carve out grand bargains. He doesn’t support the repeal of Obamacare. He despises and punishes the non-centrists of his own party. He’s a bastard that has to go.

Happy Nomad on April 10, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Verklempt…

d1carter on April 10, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Boehned, he is. ~ Yoda

Joe Mama on April 10, 2014 at 12:08 PM

You’re old enough to know better so cry baby cry

jaywemm on April 10, 2014 at 12:05 PM

Can you take me back where I came from?
Can you take me back?
Can you take me back where I came from?
Brother can you take me back?

Flange on April 10, 2014 at 12:08 PM

No way will amnesty shills Ryan and Labrador win the backing of conservatives.

blammm on April 10, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Maybe that’s why he was crying at Taco Bell the other day. That…or the fire sauce was too hot.

msupertas on April 10, 2014 at 12:11 PM

I want Trey Gowdy or Mike Kelly. People who make the enemy cry on a regular basis instead of weeping all the time.

Happy Nomad on April 10, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Crocodile tears

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2014 at 12:13 PM

So who do we want to replace Boehner? Seriously?

Who?

dforston on April 10, 2014 at 12:15 PM

He’s been there too long. Speakers shouldn’t have that role very long anyway.

22044 on April 10, 2014 at 12:16 PM

Y

ou’re old enough to know better so cry baby cry

jaywemm on April 10, 2014 at 12:05 PM

bye baby bye.

VegasRick on April 10, 2014 at 12:16 PM

So who do we want to replace Boehner? Seriously?

Who?

dforston on April 10, 2014 at 12:15 PM

Gowdy.

VegasRick on April 10, 2014 at 12:17 PM

I can’t think of one accomplishment of Boehner. Well… except for ObamaCare.

faraway on April 10, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Flange on April 10, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Ahh yes thank you. Love the White Album. Lots of animosity and strife during the making but great music in the end, a few clinkers but none the less a great album.

jaywemm on April 10, 2014 at 12:19 PM

The good news for Boehner – more time for golf @ Congressional.

As if he needs MORE time for golf!

jake-the-goose on April 10, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Thomas Massie of Kentucky

OT: Chime in Northern Kentuckians, but I tend to like this guy. He’s from the district immediately south of Cincinnati, so he gets covered pretty often in the local daily. I often see liberals and media whining that he’s too wed to the Tea Party, but then the Tea Party groups put him over the top to replace a popular GOP congressman (Geoff Davis) who declined to run for health or family reasons. Massie seems not to give a rat’s ass what the media and spendthrifts have to say. So, while I haven’t followed him closely, I tend to like him, and I like that he’s not afraid to be a thorn in the side of a Speaker who comes from only two districts away from his.

To Massie’s credit, I think he’s the type who won’t make a career of the House.

BuckeyeSam on April 10, 2014 at 12:21 PM

I want Trey Gowdy or Mike Kelly. People who make the enemy cry on a regular basis instead of weeping all the time.

Happy Nomad on April 10, 2014 at 12:11 PM

One of these two should perform the Jimmy Duggan “There’s no crying in baseball Congress” routine for Boehner.

BuckeyeSam on April 10, 2014 at 12:23 PM

why doesn’t Pelosi approach Boehner and promise to get Democrats to vote for him if need be so that he can keep the gavel?

How do we know this hasn’t already been done? He acts like it. Are those votes a secret ballot?

butch on April 10, 2014 at 12:26 PM

http://freebeacon.com/politics/banker-who-helped-crash-housing-market-helped-crafting-mortgage-reform/

well, things don’t look too good anyway. the Crony/ Leftist coalition is probably too strong to change direction. Corker is working to nationalize the mortgage industry…i.e. free money for the ‘banks’ if their ‘loans’ go bad. I.e. the prezy can force the banks to do whatever and when the bill comes due the taxpayer will fill up the banks coffers again.

sweet deal if you can get it.

the Pelosi deal makes sense to me…save face for Boehner, get power to the coalition. same with the A King move to caucus with the RINOs…more power to the crony/left

r keller on April 10, 2014 at 12:26 PM

Rep. Mick Mulvaney of South Caroline yelled “Bullshit!” outside the House chamber

There were some Congressman who were legitimately outraged, but Mulvaney is not one of them. He is an establishment puppet pretending to be conservative.

Wigglesworth on April 10, 2014 at 12:27 PM

I’m wondering how it is that the people of western Ohio’s 8th district keep electing this d-bag. Why not just elect a democrat and put an end to the charade?

BKeyser on April 10, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Democrats play hardball. Republicans play softball. I’ll tell you what, let’s get some hardball conservatives in there and try that for a while. If it doesn’t work, we can vote the play nice Republicans in again.

Dongemaharu on April 10, 2014 at 12:29 PM

So who do we want to replace Boehner? Seriously?

Who?

dforston on April 10, 2014 at 12:15 PM

Gowdy.

VegasRick on April 10, 2014 at 12:17 PM


Speaking of Gowdy – WATCH THIS!

MontanaMmmm on April 10, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Before the paid Rove/establishment shills come in here to defend Boehner, I have a question.

Have we LOST or GAINED liberty since Boehner took over as speaker?

Are we MORE or LESS free since he took over?

Has government gotten BIGGER or SMALLER since he took over?

If I can recall correctly, tax increases, budgets/CRs that increase spending, and debt ceiling increases have all been pushed over the finish line by REPUBLICANS since Boehner took over.

Could anyone see Pelosi working to push conservative legislation over the finish line?

tcufrog on April 10, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Et Tu Cantor?

StubbornGreenBurros on April 10, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Take the money and run!

repvoter on April 10, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Why not vote strategically and protect a guy from the other party who’s your least bad option as Speaker? Maybe he’ll even reward them by bringing immigration reform to the floor and letting them pass it with a few dozen Boehner loyalists on the GOP side. Fun!

Yeah they can even create a new bipartisan conference/caucus called the Main Street Caucus in honor of the Soros and union funded Main Street Partnership.

Wigglesworth on April 10, 2014 at 12:32 PM

why doesn’t Pelosi approach Boehner and promise to get Democrats to vote for him if need be so that he can keep the gavel?

Because Boehner would be more well-done than he is now.

As it stands, Boehner has not done anything to justify his election as speaker. His leadership, if we can call it that, has been feckless, rudderless, lacks temerity, commitment, passion. wisdom or a plausible strategy.

The American people in opposition to this despotic government and who clearly live its failures every day have received no hope or help. Nor do they see a future for it.

People are frustrated with government failures. We can certainly blame most of that on Mr. Obama and his liege. But a fair amount of blame should also be given to Boehner. He has left us unprotected against the mob and lacks a plan to restore our countries health. He’s part of the problem along with people like Cantor. And they should all be removed from any position remotely associated with leadership. That is not a quality they possess. Simply they are just another set of bureaucrats who think of themselves first and the people they represent last.

Marcus Traianus on April 10, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Bye bye bonehead. We need warriors not weepers

neyney on April 10, 2014 at 12:38 PM

I’ll believe it when I see it.

Midas on April 10, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Responding to the demands of ones constitutes falls far short of plotting.

oscarwilde on April 10, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Hopefully the voters of Ohio make sure that the House doesn’t have the option of voting for him as Speaker.

ConstantineXI on April 10, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Tea Partiers remove Boehner by voting for his Democratic opponent in November: maximum leverage and gets the GOPe’s attention with little harm to the Republican majority.

PersonFromPorlock on April 10, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Happy Nomad on April 10, 2014 at 12:07 PM

Amen!

tomshup on April 10, 2014 at 12:47 PM

And this is the fundamental problem…we have two parties but both of them support the status quo of spending until ruin.

Representative government doesn’t work when people aren’t actually given a choice in voting…as you can see in Europe’s pseudo-democracies.

While some of the establishment of the Republican party might be brought around, conservatives have to take at least one scalp to make them see a risk in collaborating with the left…and either Boehner or McConnell would be great choices….

18-1 on April 10, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Maybe that’s why he was crying at Taco Bell the other day. That…or the fire sauce was too hot.

msupertas on April 10, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Seriously, Boehner needs a thorough medical checkup. I suspect testicular cancer may be reducing his body’s production of testosterone and the little bit of estrogen in all men is taking over.

Perhaps an adrenal problem could be causing this as well, I don’t know. I’m not a doctor and I don’t play one on the internets.

slickwillie2001 on April 10, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Ok so Eric Cantor is getting a promotion. Yippee!!!!

Brock Robamney on April 10, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Gowdy.
VegasRick on April 10, 2014 at 12:17 PM

Cantor will pick the speaker, and you know who his pick will be

Brock Robamney on April 10, 2014 at 12:53 PM

The sad part is that Boehner was elected to Congress as a reformer and ended up becoming exactly he pledged to fight.

bw222 on April 10, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Cantor’s worse. Weasel.

ncjetsfan on April 10, 2014 at 1:01 PM

BKeyser on April 10, 2014 at 12:28 PM

His winning the primary on May 6th is not guaranteed.

District 8 is in the heart of TP country in southern Ohio… and NONE of the TP groups in that region are behind Boehner.

Losing the Speakership is the least of his worries…

CPT. Charles on April 10, 2014 at 1:05 PM

why doesn’t Pelosi approach Boehner and promise to get Democrats to vote for him if need be so that he can keep the gavel?

We know what side you are on you fraud, AP.

FrankT on April 10, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Cantor is a traitor on Benghazi, amnesty and so much more. He’s also married with a leftist leftist chick.

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2014 at 1:11 PM

The sad part is that Boehner was elected to Congress as a reformer and ended up becoming exactly he pledged to fight.

bw222 on April 10, 2014 at 12:57 PM

well they all are elected as reformers. no one gets to washington by saying “send me to washington so i can make sure things stay the same!!”
what’s sad is when guys like hatch run a campaign about fixing washington.

chasdal on April 10, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Democrats have nothing to lose in giving him those votes either, since there’s zero chance that Pelosi or anyone else on their side is getting to 218. Why note vote strategically and protect a guy from the other party who’s your least bad option as Speaker? Maybe he’ll even reward them by bringing immigration reform to the floor and letting them pass it with a few dozen Boehner loyalists on the GOP side. Fun!

What, you don’t think they haven’t already put out feelers? My guess is that Boehner told them no dice because: (a) he can’t hold the district if he goes Democrat; (b) he knows that he would effectively be Pelosi’s cabana boy. That’s a step too far, even for Boehner.

Robert_Paulson on April 10, 2014 at 1:39 PM

I’d like to see Louie Gohmert get the job, but that wont happen. Jim Jordan would be good also, but that wont happen. Gowdy would be another good option, but he’s probably to conservative for the moderates.
You’d have to get someone that can get the votes of the conservatives and moderates. Jeb Henserling has a pretty good voting record based on a quick search, and has had some power in committee’s. Steve Scalise, Lamar Smith, and Jason Chaffetz all have voting records that fall between the rino’s and stalwart conservatives. I’m not a big fan of them, and have very little knowledge of them. I’m not up to date on committee assignments, and who has influence. I’m skeptical that any of people I’d like to see get the job can get 220 votes.
Outside the box ideas. Ron Johnson, James Inhofe, Marco Rubio (I know), Mike Pence, Scott Walker. They all have pretty conservative records (for the most part), and haven’t torched bridges with a lot of the GOP (so they might could get 220 votes).

I wouldnt be surprised if Pelosi got another RINO in, whether it be Boehner or Cantor. That’s how Joe Straus became Speaker of the House in Texas.

ritewhit on April 10, 2014 at 1:40 PM

The GOPe is no better than the Dims.

Meople on April 10, 2014 at 1:42 PM

“A tanning booth in every Speaker’s Chambers.”

—– Henry IV of Ohio (and the new Florida mansion)

viking01 on April 10, 2014 at 1:46 PM

You’re not going to get Dems to vote for Boehner. Period.

What keeps Dems afloat with the powers that they pander to is that they’re not Republicans.

It doesn’t matter that Boehner cooperated with Dems in passing a clean debt ceiling increase, just like it didn’t matter that Bush Jr. worked well with Democrats to establish a number of Dem goals (such as education “reform”, relaxation of immigration requirements, etc.); because Dems still drag Bush Jr. through the mud as if he had no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

We have become more polarized as a nation, and any Dem that shows “weakness” in supporting Boehner will be sent to bed without dinner.

Dems primarily exist because they pander to the self-described “victim” groups. They will even create victims to further political ends (look how they’ve made 1/2 of the population – that is females – “victims” of wage discrimination). And potential victims just love the promised attention.

Boehner needs to be replaced because he’s made of putty. At this point, on the economy, only a non-compromising stand will effect any change in the economically suicidal trajectory we are on.

oakland on April 10, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Cantor is worse. He’s currently attempting to destroy conservative voices in Virginia through a process called “slating.”

Watching the republicans in these hearings I’m realizing how irredeemably unequipped they are to contend with modern progressivism. They just don’t get it. They’re gripped by two delusions: 1. that the media will step up and start reporting the news and do the dirty work of taking down democrats and 2. that there is a way, and that it’s the GOP’s solemn obligation to find it, to work together with Leftists for the good of the country.

Fatal conceits. Let it burn.

rrpjr on April 10, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Only 40-50?!? We’re doomed!

PaddyORyan on April 10, 2014 at 12:07 PM

They are rarely ever punished for going to the left. They know they have your vote, why would they represent you? If you want them to change, then you have to make them earn your vote.

astonerii on April 10, 2014 at 1:58 PM

Dave Schweikert of AZ06 is a great guy. He ran against RINO fave Quayle when AZ05 became AZ06 and he defeated Quayle despite the establishment all funding Quayle and leaving schweikert out to dry

He was the maricopa county treasurer in his past life and is a fiscal conservative

Boehner and henchmen stripped him of his seat on house banking Cmte as punishment for running against Quayle and for his refusal to vote for Boehner as Speaker

ginaswo on April 10, 2014 at 2:04 PM

I used to like Boehner. I’m not in his district so I don’t know what he’s like as a representative. I’m next door in Jim Jordan’s district. He is a definite conservative and knows his job is to represent us. This is a very conservative area. Boehner’s commercials portray him as a local boy, for families, small business, veterans, etc. I don’t think very many people see him as speaker. I think they are just used to his being there and the older generation in particular will still vote for him.

I could see Pelosi helping him back into the job. Next best thing for the Dems if the Reps keep the house. A conservative would have her screeching and dissolving.

crankyoldlady on April 10, 2014 at 2:18 PM

crankyoldlady on April 10, 2014 at 2:18 PM

definite conservative? Is that like severe conservative?
You say he is conservative and then say how awesome he is to the Democrats.

astonerii on April 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM

wanna see heads explode….make stockman speaker.

dmacleo on April 10, 2014 at 2:30 PM

Looks like the limit on how many real conservatives we have is right around 50 out of 233.

The 90% your friend myth.

Say we have 233 members in congress representing the Republican party.

435/2=218 votes to pass anything.

So let us say that on 15 issues we find important we have…

Let us assume that each member will be good on between 18 and 20 of our big issues. (90% to 100% our friend)

So lets use these numbers on these issues.

50 are good on all 20 issues
20 are good on all but item 1
20 are good on all but item 2
20 are good on all but item 3
20 are good on all but item 4
20 are good on all but item 5
20 are good on all but item 6
20 are good on all but item 7
20 are good on all but item 8
20 are good on all but item 9
20 are good on all but item 10
20 are good on all but item 11
20 are good on all but item 12
20 are good on all but item 13
20 are good on all but item 14
20 are good on all but item 15

Basically, every vote for any item 1 through 15 starts with 213 votes at most even though we have a majority. In order to pass anything with these less than pure 90% our friends the legislation has to be watered down to get 25% of the imperfect people to climb aboard.

90% my friend means they are my enemy and the friend of continued regression.

astonerii on April 10, 2014 at 2:34 PM

If he’s (Boehner) stuck at, say, 210 votes because 40 conservatives refuse to vote for him, find 10 Dems who’ll get him to 220.

And having Boehner elected Speaker by Democrats will further weaken Boehner just as it damaged Marco Rubio when he stood with NY liberal Democrat Chuck Schumer against Conservatives.

RJL on April 10, 2014 at 2:35 PM

The Lush needs to go, along with Cantor. Those 2 have put our cause back decades, when in many cases all they had to do was nothing.

Iblis on April 10, 2014 at 3:17 PM

You want a conservative who could handle the job? Here’s an outside the box one: Mark Sanford.

Yes, he had a personal failing, but he’s been a conservative governor, has gravitas, and he’s got a conservative voting record.

cpaulus on April 10, 2014 at 3:18 PM

definite conservative? Is that like severe conservative?
You say he is conservative and then say how awesome he is to the Democrats.

astonerii on April 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM

Jordan, genius. Read it again.

crankyoldlady on April 10, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Jordan, genius. Read it again.

crankyoldlady on April 10, 2014 at 3:58 PM

My bad.
That is why it seemed to not make sense. Still not a perfectly clear paragraph. Talking about two males and following with ‘he’ leaves it open to interpretation.

astonerii on April 10, 2014 at 4:02 PM

INEFFECTIVE, just like BARRY.

TX-96 on April 10, 2014 at 4:26 PM

My bad.
That is why it seemed to not make sense. Still not a perfectly clear paragraph. Talking about two males and following with ‘he’ leaves it open to interpretation.

astonerii on April 10, 2014 at 4:02 PM

And when I went back over it I realized it wasn’t clear so I changed it. Not enough I guess.

crankyoldlady on April 10, 2014 at 4:41 PM

Okay, Boehnor sucks, no doubt about it, but if we’re going to replace him with Cantor who is as bad if not worse, what’s the point?

xblade on April 10, 2014 at 5:42 PM

Need a whole new crew in the House leadership — place is full of Amnesty shilling piglets — Boehner, Cantor, Goodlatte, Ryan, MCarthy… any start i-s a good start.

DaMav on April 10, 2014 at 6:16 PM

So who do we want to replace Boehner? Seriously?

Who?

dforston on April 10, 2014 at 12:15 PM

Good grief, if they reward RINO Cantor for his idiotic fake vote with the speaker-ship, I’ll puke. Lots of tremendous conservative thinkers in the House who should be able to muster full support, certainly Jim Jordan or Gowdy. Awesome.

Cantor? Might as well leave Boehner in there.

Jaibones on April 10, 2014 at 6:21 PM

Good grief, if they reward RINO Cantor for his idiotic fake vote with the speaker-ship, I’ll puke. Lots of tremendous conservative thinkers in the House who should be able to muster full support, certainly Jim Jordan or Gowdy. Awesome.

Cantor? Might as well leave Boehner in there.

Jaibones on April 10, 2014 at 6:21 PM

Don’t assume that your ideal would want such a thankless position. Becoming Speaker makes you a huge target of the Democratic-Liberal media machine. You had better be squeaky clean and stay squeaky clean.

You also have to come from an absolutely safe district, because they are only up for two years and the Democratics will pour money into your district to take you down the very next election.

slickwillie2001 on April 10, 2014 at 7:12 PM

Gohmert, Amash… is Bachmann running again?

Those would be worthy Boneless replacements.

TMOverbeck on April 11, 2014 at 7:54 AM