Manchin to Reid: Lay off the Koch brothers

posted at 10:41 am on April 10, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

This may be one reason why Republicans could woo Joe Manchin to the GOP after the midterms. Would Angus King ever go on Fox to defend Charles and David Koch from Harry Reid’s asinine demagoguery? Doubtful, but the West Virginia Democrat did just that earlier today (video via the Free Beacon):

“People want jobs. You don’t beat up people. I mean, I don’t agree with their politics or philosophically, but, you know, they’re Americans, they’re doing— paying their taxes,” Manchin said on Fox News’s “Fox & Friends.”

“They’re not breaking the law. They’re providing jobs,” he added. …

“If you’re trying to rally the base, the bases have already been rallied. The right and left bases have been rallied,” Manchin said. “It’s us in the middle that have to start making something happen here in Washington to move this country forward.”

So far, Reid hasn’t taken Manchin’s advice. In fact, the Senate Majority Leader went on the Senate floor to announce that the upper chamber might be able to take its recess later today, and oh by the way did you know Koch money stinks?

Mitch McConnell offered a jab in return:

National Journal’s Ron Fournier warns that Senate Democrats will pay a high price for Reid’s “lies” and demagoguery — and so will the media, if they don’t do a better job of pointing those out. “Shame on us” if that happens, says Fournier:

Shame on us if we in the media let him get away with this. First of all, his PAC has its own wealthy billionaires who are donating to him. Second of all, the ad is false, outright false. Representative Cassidy actually fought against the Koch brothers here — that’s not pointed out in the ad. The ad is a lie. Third, this is the third time in a row that Harry Reid’s PAC has had an ad that’s been labeled patently false by the Washington Post. He is making facts up. He is lying. Eventually it’s going to come around and get you. Even in this media environment we have now, I’ve got to believe that Stephen [F. Hayes of theWeekly Standard] is wrong and the Democrats will pay a high price for lying in these Senate ads. They’re lying.

That might be another good reason for Manchin to rethink his affiliation after the midterms.


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With as much money as some of the leading Dems make, I never understood their rabid hatred for the Koch brothers.

ImmigrantsWife on April 10, 2014 at 10:44 AM

As a conservative, I am opposed to this call for decency. I say more of the same. For example, I never would have known the actual ranking of donations of various groups were it not for Senile Harry braying about the Koch Bros.

This hysterical meme is a gift that keeps on giving and I would remind everyone about two turncoats – Spector and Crist – before we start chasing Manchin’s skirt.

platypus on April 10, 2014 at 10:50 AM

Just great let Manchin and King in the GOP. Two more RINOs that are not needed.

bgibbs1000 on April 10, 2014 at 10:51 AM

Harry Reid still hasn’t answered those rumors about being a pederast. Maybe he has no answer?

rbj on April 10, 2014 at 10:52 AM

Then why do you vote for him as leader, Joe?

ConstantineXI on April 10, 2014 at 10:53 AM

Harry Reid still hasn’t answered those rumors about being a pederast. Maybe he has no answer?

rbj on April 10, 2014 at 10:52 AM

Ignoring these Serious Charges isn’t going to make them go away either, Stoplight Harry.

Boy doesn’t Reid look like that creepy uncle your parents wouldn’t let you visit?

ConstantineXI on April 10, 2014 at 10:55 AM

National Journal’s Ron Fournier warns that Senate Democrats will pay a high price for Reid’s “lies” and demagoguery — and so will the media, if they don’t do a better job of pointing those out.

Personally, I think Reid over-reached with his demonization of the Kochs. It’s goes to some sort of a joke when you can’t make a speech without making it the fault of the Kochs- be it campaign activity, global warming, or the Lindberg baby kidnapping (Bruno Richard Hauptmann was framed by the Kochs!)

Happy Nomad on April 10, 2014 at 10:55 AM

Reid must be worried the Koch brothers have some really good dirt on Reid and Reid is doing some preemptive attacking hoping to dilute their credibility.

albill on April 10, 2014 at 10:56 AM

This hysterical meme is a gift that keeps on giving and I would remind everyone about two turncoats – Spector and Crist – before we start chasing Manchin’s skirt.

platypus on April 10, 2014 at 10:50 AM

I’m guessing Reid is suffering from the early stages of Alzheimer’s. It’s the only explanation that makes his insane rants something other than completely irrational.

Happy Nomad on April 10, 2014 at 10:57 AM

Can’t the Koch brother sue Reid?

darwin on April 10, 2014 at 10:57 AM

Personally, I think Reid over-reached with his demonization of the Kochs. It’s goes to some sort of a joke when you can’t make a speech without making it the fault of the Kochs- be it campaign activity, global warming, or the Lindberg baby kidnapping (Bruno Richard Hauptmann was framed by the Kochs!)

Happy Nomad on April 10, 2014 at 10:55 AM</blockquote

Socialists REQUIRE a Demon to rail against, mostly to distract people from their failures.

This is one reason why Socialist Regimes are Reds, the streets run red with the blood of their victims.

ConstantineXI on April 10, 2014 at 10:58 AM

The RNC needs to put billboards on major highways with Reids picture that says he’s lying.The media is dead and no help.Thousands see billboards every day.

docflash on April 10, 2014 at 11:00 AM

Didn’t Reid get some cash from a Koch Brothers PAC?

BuckeyeSam on April 10, 2014 at 11:01 AM

Can’t the Koch brother sue Reid?

darwin on April 10, 2014 at 10:57 AM

Not when he’s talking in the Senate during a session.

platypus on April 10, 2014 at 11:01 AM

I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you’re not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration.

Wait, where have we heard that before?

kenro85 on April 10, 2014 at 11:02 AM

They have to have an enemy. It’s the Harold Hill school of politics. Set up an enemy and tell voters only they can save them. These people are unscrupulous. They have no shame. I’m glad to see the Republicans are beginning to push back. If they say something dumb or something untrue hit back.

crankyoldlady on April 10, 2014 at 11:02 AM

Proof that Democrats are growing more desperate to hold every possible senate seat.

There is no way Manchin, who has voted down the line for every piece of the Reid-Obama agenda, did this on his own. I am certain this tact got the nod of his fellow Democrats.

Marcus Traianus on April 10, 2014 at 11:03 AM

This may be one reason why Republicans could woo Joe Manchin to the GOP after the midterms.

Oh, please. No, it wouldn’t be a reason.

And even if we could, why would we want a snake as slippery as Manchin on our team? The guy is worse than Arlen Specter.

Dusty on April 10, 2014 at 11:03 AM

Socialists REQUIRE a Demon to rail against, mostly to distract people from their failures.

This is one reason why Socialist Regimes are Reds, the streets run red with the blood of their victims.

ConstantineXI on April 10, 2014 at 10:58 AM

The left can’t run against ideas so they have to run against a made-up enemy. In 2012 it was the GOPs “war on women.” This time around, they’re making it all about fat cat supporters of the right.

Happy Nomad on April 10, 2014 at 11:04 AM

The RNC needs to put billboards on major highways with Reids picture that says he’s lying.The media is dead and no help.Thousands see billboards every day.

docflash on April 10, 2014 at 11:00 AM

I’ve been saying that for a long time. Billboards, bumper stickers, t shirts, whatever.

crankyoldlady on April 10, 2014 at 11:05 AM

Didn’t Reid get some cash from a Koch Brothers PAC?

[BuckeyeSam on April 10, 2014 at 11:01 AM]

LOL.

I denounce myself! — Harry Reid, 10 April 2014.

Dusty on April 10, 2014 at 11:05 AM

The truth is that Sen. Harry Reid has nothing useful to say

J_Crater on April 10, 2014 at 11:07 AM

This is straight up McCarthyism (if McCarthy had been wrong and guilty of everything the Left claims).

Resist We Much on April 10, 2014 at 11:07 AM

This, and Marcus? Is the water poisoned?

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2014 at 11:08 AM

OT – delusional reporter

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2014 at 11:08 AM

Manchin does what he thinks is best for his state. He’s speaking out against Reid because he thinks it’s bad for getting Democrats elected.

crankyoldlady on April 10, 2014 at 11:08 AM

On every important issue, Manchin has been a reliable Democratic vote in the Senate. I always feel his TV appearances where he appears to be more moderate or conservative are just campaign propaganda to be used in West Virginia.

pilsener on April 10, 2014 at 11:09 AM

That might be another good reason for Manchin to rethink his affiliation after the midterms.

Oh for crissakes, Ed, quit inviting every Tom, Dick, and Harry Barbarian to pull their wooden horse to our party.

Dusty on April 10, 2014 at 11:09 AM

this is the third time in a row that Harry Reid’s PAC has had an ad that’s been labeled patently false by the Washington Post. He is making facts up. He is lying. Eventually it’s going to come around and get you. Even in this media environment we have now

…he’ll keep doing it…if the media environment hasn’t changed over what JugEars and Holder have done to the Constitution in the last year or so…it isn’t going to change the media environment for stupid shit that comes out of Harry’s orifices!

KOOLAID2 on April 10, 2014 at 11:10 AM

“Koch Brothers’ money stinks but Soros’ money smells like roses and violets” — Harry Reid, the turd from Nevada

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2014 at 11:10 AM

Don’t sue Reid. Just throw him out.

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2014 at 11:11 AM

This may be one reason why Republicans could woo Joe Manchin to the GOP after the midterms.

Stop raising your hope so high that Republicans are going to win the Senate… First it is too difficult and second it is not an absolute requirement as the House is the most important thing to win and fortunately the Republicans are very highly likely to keep the House…

mnjg on April 10, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Don’t sue Reid. Just throw him out.

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2014 at 11:11 AM

I’m kind of hoping for something more, IYKWIMAITTYD.

**looks out of window and let’s out a soft ‘Phew! as there is not a lightning bolt in sight**

Resist We Much on April 10, 2014 at 11:15 AM

Here’s what happens…
GOP wins the Senate. Perhaps Manchin switches to GOP.
BUT…
Just like when Gorge W Bush was president with a GOP majority, “moderates” will receive profiles in courage for “bipartisan” votes like when McCain and other RINOs voted against making the Bush tax cuts permanent. After a series of betrayals by RINOs, Republican base voters will again become disheartened and the Democrats will retake the Senate in 2016.

philw1776 on April 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM

You know, when you have a Koch habit, you think everything you say is brilliant and you’re the smartest guy in the room.

And you’re friends just smile at you and wonder if you’ll ever come down.

itsspideyman on April 10, 2014 at 11:18 AM

Joe Manchin speak with forked tongue.

Philly on April 10, 2014 at 11:19 AM

Rather pathetic state of affairs when Ron Fournier and Joe Manchin are making more effective attacks on Harry Reid than the poobahs of the GOP.

rrpjr on April 10, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Joe’s allowed to stray off the Demoncratic reservation once in a while as a sop to the voters here in Almost Heaven. As long as the demoncrats are running things here, he won’t go GOP.

Royal Fizzbin on April 10, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Pssht – Those Kochs aren’t all that smart.
It’s easy to get rich when you live rent free in so many places…..

dentarthurdent on April 10, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Stop raising your hope so high that Republicans are going to win the Senate… First it is too difficult and second it is not an absolute requirement as the House is the most important thing to win and fortunately the Republicans are very highly likely to keep the House…

mnjg on April 10, 2014 at 11:13 AM

And so far, what has the eGOP done with control of the House?
If we take the Senate, that might open the door to some well deserved impeachments – if the eGOP had the guts to allow them to happen.

dentarthurdent on April 10, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Can’t the Koch brother sue Reid?

darwin on April 10, 2014 at 10:57 AM

Not when he’s talking in the Senate during a session.

platypus on April 10, 2014 at 11:01 AM

If they’re smart, they’ll hire a few minions to go to every public appearance Harry makes. Sooner or later, he’ll say something actionable, and won’t have the Senate to hide behind.

CurtZHP on April 10, 2014 at 12:20 PM

Resist We Much on April 10, 2014 at 11:15 AM

:)

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2014 at 1:15 PM

I’ve also wondered why Manchin is still a democrat.

COgirl on April 10, 2014 at 1:17 PM

Joe is starting to figure out, because he is rather slow on this, West Virginia is turning blood red.

It is kind of hard to be a union supporting democrat when the democrats killed the one big union controlled job in the state…coal mining. Not exactly a smooth move for your political prospects.

William Eaton on April 10, 2014 at 1:20 PM

And so far, what has the eGOP done with control of the House?
If we take the Senate, that might open the door to some well deserved impeachments – if the eGOP had the guts to allow them to happen.

dentarthurdent on April 10, 2014 at 12:01 PM

Stop the talk about the idiotic impeachment… It is not going to happen…

mnjg on April 10, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Stop the talk about the idiotic impeachment… It is not going to happen…

mnjg on April 10, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Of course not – not unless the eGOP grows a serious pair – which I doubt will happen soon.
And it definitely won’t happen as long as the Dems control the Senate.

But I can have fantasies, can’t I?

dentarthurdent on April 10, 2014 at 1:53 PM

What I don’t understand is why the republicans want the Republican National Convention in Vegas, when it puts money in Nevada’s/Reid’s pocket and supports the very people who keep putting this amoeba in office. Ya, I get the deep pockets of Adelson but still…

31giddyup on April 10, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Harry Reid owes his position to the money and muscle of big labor unions. He certainly is in no position to attack someone else for using their own money to influence politics. He claims his personal wealth came from making good investments, but he was steered into those by his political cronies. He’s as slimy as a slug and crooked as a side-winder.

flataffect on April 10, 2014 at 2:23 PM

What I don’t understand is why the republicans want the Republican National Convention in Vegas, when it puts money in Nevada’s/Reid’s pocket and supports the very people who keep putting this amoeba in office. Ya, I get the deep pockets of Adelson but still…

31giddyup on April 10, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Same goes for Denver – which is the only part of Colorado that keeps steering the state to the left.

dentarthurdent on April 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM

Mancbin is the only D who isn’t a loon.

cat_owner on April 10, 2014 at 2:43 PM

“Koch Brothers’ money stinks but Soros’ money smells like roses and violets” — Harry Reid, the turd from Nevada

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2014 at 11:10 AM

That’s a good one. The only reason Reid is doing this is because it is red meat for the looney base. I bet a large majority of people don’t even know who the Koch brothers are.

And in Reid’s warped way of thinking…. anyone who disagrees with him is “unAmerican”.

cat_owner on April 10, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Rather pathetic state of affairs when Ron Fournier and Joe Manchin are making more effective attacks on Harry Reid than the poobahs of the GOP.

rrpjr on April 10, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Anything the GOP says in attacking Reid will be routinely dismissed as “partisan politics” by Independents (whose voting choices are actually the target of Reid’s demagoguery, aside from riling the base) and so there is not always much value in making the attacks (which is not to argue they shouldn’t be made, just that they have little impact on Independents).

Hits from the Dem side do more damage.

AesopFan on April 10, 2014 at 3:18 PM

Can’t the Koch brother sue Reid?

darwin on April 10, 2014 at 10:57 AM

I assume he has some form of immunity given that his rants are usually delivered on the Senate floor. The man’s an insane coward anyways, but then the early onset of Alzheimer doesn’t help matters much…

jimver on April 10, 2014 at 3:29 PM

At this point can the Koch brothers sue Reid? At the very least is defamation at the most harassment of two private citizens using the bully pulpit of the Senate Majority leader.

neyney on April 10, 2014 at 4:44 PM

I don’t care if Manchin would be a RINO or not. If he had an R by his name, that’s worth two Dimwit seats. We’d be closer to taking back the Senate.

COgirl on April 10, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Can’t the Koch brother sue Reid?

darwin on April 10, 2014 at 10:57 AM

At this point can the Koch brothers sue Reid? At the very least is defamation at the most harassment of two private citizens using the bully pulpit of the Senate Majority leader.

neyney on April 10, 2014 at 4:44 PM

I believe it would revolve around whether the Koch brothers are ‘public figures’ or not, ie private citizens.

Second, there’s surely no paper trail to discover in order to show malice, because this crap just vomits whole from Dingy’s diseased brain.

slickwillie2001 on April 10, 2014 at 5:58 PM