Question for Marco Rubio: What’d you think of Jeb Bush’s “act of love” comment about illegals?

posted at 6:41 pm on April 9, 2014 by Allahpundit

I want to pick up where Guy left off, with the last little bit from Rubio’s Fox appearance this morning. Skip to 4:15 of the clip below. Simple question from Bill Hemmer: Thumbs up or thumbs down to Jeb Bush calling illegal immigration an “act of love”? Here, for the sake of comparison, is what Rep. Raul Labrador said yesterday when asked the same thing:

“When you trivialize the fact that these people have broken the law, I think your message is a little bit off. I think it’s unfortunate,” Labrador said at a Tuesday event sponsored by The Heritage Foundation…

“I think comments from Jeb Bush and other Republicans — what they’re doing is they’re pandering to a certain group of people,” Labrador said. “And I’ve got news for you. If we pass immigration reform tomorrow like members of the Republican conference want us to do, they’re not going to vote for the Republican Party.”

Tough (but accurate!) stuff. In fact, Mickey Kaus had a theory that the whole point of Jeb’s comments was to set Rubio up to say something similar. Bush isn’t running for president, Kaus speculates, but he’d like to do what he can to make it easier for his friend Marco to run by making himself a convenient punching bag for Rubio on immigration. The squishier he sounds, the easier it is for Rubio to impress tea partiers by beating up on him. Kaus:

Look at it this way: The GOP establishment is desperate to suppress Tea Party conservatives and also obtain the immigration amnesty they believe will win Latinos and relieve them of the need to do too much rethinking in other areas. The problem for the establishment is lack of candidates. Rubio was a favorite, but he sabotaged himself among core Republican primary voters with his disingenuous, flip-floppy championing of the Gang of 8′s bill. That left Christie–but then Christie got caught in a traffic jam. That left Jeb, probably the establishment’s original choice–but it turns out that Jeb is still a Bush, and even the Bushes are sick of the Bushes. That leaves … well, Rubio again. Maybe he can be rehabilitated in time for the primaries! How? Hmm. Well, if Jeb takes a stand way far out in a squishy idealistic pro-amnesty direction, that creates space for his quondam protege, Rubio, to stake out a position that’s seemingly tougher–e.g. “Jeb’s off base there. Saying it’s an ‘act of love’ obscures the very real problems illegal immigration can cause, which is why I am strong on border enforcement, etc.” Of course Rubio would still be for amnesty, and the establishment would know this. But it might help smuggle him through the primaries.

Here’s a perfect test of that theory. Hemmer sets Rubio up to spike the ball on Jeb and … he politely declines, saying that the issue is complex, that the rule of law is important, but that the human side of immigration is also important and Bush’s comment “shines light” on that. If, in other words, the “act of love” business was all about making Rubio look good by drawing a contrast, Jeb forgot to clue Rubio himself in to their nascent “good cop, bad cop” routine. What you’re actually seeing here is a guy being very careful not to alienate a big-name Republican who could be an asset for him in 2016 assuming he doesn’t run for president himself. There’s a piece at National Journal today speculating that Rubio could be the establishment’s choice in 2016 if Jeb passes on the race and Christie’s campaign ends up DOA. Rubio’s well positioned to win Bushworld’s backing — hawkish, “reasonable” on immigration, friends with Jeb, the whole package. He even has some claim to the mantle of “compassionate conservatism” that marked Dubya’s first campaign. He’ll be the “Bush” in the race if there’s no real Bush to choose from. In which case, why go picking fights with Jeb, especially this early?



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I’d rather ask Jeb if he’s been in South Texas for any appreciable amount of time to understand just WHY illegal immigration is such a problem here.

It’s not the legal immigrants, and no, I don’t have a problem with Hispanic people, what I have a problem with is people coming here illegally. Period. Follow the law, and you will be welcomed with open arms. Problem is, break the law, and you’re also welcomed with open arms.

john1schn on April 9, 2014 at 6:49 PM

the left has a way of stereotyping people in a way that benefits them, this is a perfect example. they would have you believe that all illegals are here just because they love their families. as if many aren’t currently in our jails after committing numerous, heinous crimes on society.

there are some hardworking, decent illegals who are just trying to feed their family, but having lived in a town dominated by illegals, I really doubt they are a majority.

jetch on April 9, 2014 at 6:54 PM

Jeb said what he said because that’s what he believes.

Like Rand, Jeb holds contempt for pro-immigration law enforcement and anti-amnesty people, and he feels he can get away with saying what he thinks.

The real question is whether we the voters will act accordingly and make sure that no pro-amnesty candidate gets the nomination.

bluegill on April 9, 2014 at 6:57 PM

Interesting that we wouldn’t even hear Harry Reid saying what Jeb Bush said about illegals. But regardless of what Rubio says on Jeb we can’t forget Rubio’s straight out betrayal of the those that got him elected. Over and over Rubio said he’s all for legal immigration, but totally against amnesty. Then the180°. We pretty much know that this betrayal on amnesty was what Rubio had in mind from the beginning, even as he was saying the opposite. How do we know this? Because he hired the immigration laywer and long time amnesty pusher Cesar Conda as his Chief of Staff. So amnesty was going to be Rubio’s chief focus, based on his Chief of Staff selection. Yet he kept on saying the opposite. Not good. Here’s the google on Cesar Conda.

anotherJoe on April 9, 2014 at 6:57 PM

It’s not the legal immigrants, and no, I don’t have a problem with Hispanic people, what I have a problem with is people coming here illegally. Period.

john1schn on April 9, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Exactly. People from all over the world try to enter America unlawfully, yet the issue is played up almost entirely from a racial angle because of politicians who prefer to pander for votes from a single segment of the voting population. It’s sickening.

Aizen on April 9, 2014 at 6:58 PM

What did Rubio think about it? When he heard it, he had multiple orgasms, and in spite of what he may say to the contrary, he is still having them. He won’t tell you that, of course, for obvious reasons, but I just did, and so now you know.

VorDaj on April 9, 2014 at 6:58 PM

I swear this whole ‘act of love’ phrase has gotten to the point that I feel like I need a shower every time that I see it.

Resist We Much on April 9, 2014 at 6:58 PM

the left has a way of stereotyping people in a way that benefits them, this is a perfect example. they would have you believe that all illegals are here just because they love their families.
jetch on April 9, 2014 at 6:54 PM

They want us to believe that illegal aliens are poor, victimized souls who work harder than anyone else and that Americans who condemn them are racist.

To hell with that BS! I want every last one of them deported. The failure to enforce our border is destroying the country.

bluegill on April 9, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Amigos – comrades – muchachos – friends – and all others who feel the Bush and Rubio love, we are gathered here as an edifice of the great glory that is now vanishing before our very eyes and the intuitive feeling, based on the assumption as Mencken once proclaimed, “He who underestimates the American public will never go broke.” This is merely a small indication to behold and to perceive that which has gone way into the behind and to that which might project .. I mean go forward … out of the mouth … i mean .. the future…we’ve got to rip up the constitution so we can rip down those outdated and inconvenient borders! This is the main detergent … I mean main deterrent … upon which we have gathered our strength and to all the others who say, “What the hell did that get?” – We don’t yet know.

Clearly today we must all be gravely aware that political expediency, latino ethnicity and the Chamber of Commerce’s need for serf labor take precedence over rule of law and constitutional procedure. However you say – WTF ! – what the Hell does this mean… in relation to the tabulation whereby we must finally realize that the great reconquesta story is now being rehearsed before our very eyes, in the rise of Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan… indicating that only two-faced … I mean fork-faced … I mean bi-faced … I mean bi-polar … I mean a bi-lingual hombre and his faithful amigo can receive…the award for reconquesta, unlike Kenyan Hussein Obama whose reconquesta plans don’t drink water.

And as Miller once said in one of his great novels- what did he … that language is only necessary when bilingual communication is endangered. And you sit there bewildered, and Pinter who went further said “It is not the lack of communication, but fear of communication.” That’s what the damn thing is that we fear – communication – especially all the Spanish communication that’s even on a box of Wheaties now. Damn it! And through all this John McCain has attained, and has created for himsself serenity, and it is only his senility that is keeping him alive in his insanity. And Jeb Bush has discovered that he is in love with every man and woman in Mexico and will marry them all just as soon as polygamy becomes legal in America.

Moving right along in my brief remarks … … Senors y Senoritas, Ladies and Gentlemen, Peeps and Peepettes, Rulers and Ruled, the time will soon come when a first world America will outlive its usefulness. Marx, either Groucho or Karl, I can’t remember which, maybe it was both or maybe it was Harpo, once said that America is the opiate of the people. I say that when America outlives its usefulness and becomes a majority Mexican nation , then opium…will be the opiate…Ahh that’s not a bad idea… we are going to need that badly especially when all the booze runs out …

And the completely and totally unbiased and bi-partisan panel, has determined to give the grand prize to Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan for their EARNESTY’S RAINBOW. Now EARNESTY’S RAINBOW is a token of these men’s genius…they told me so themselves and repeatedly … that they could change perceptions by calling their plan for knocking down those pesky borders EARNESTY …in other words, they could have been a little more specific, but rather than allude to an articulation of the mundane, they have come to the conclusion that brevity is the importance of our nation’s shallow and selfish first world existence. God damn!

Marco Rubio’s and Paul Ryan’s. EARNESTY’S RAINBOW – is a small contribution to a certain degree, since there are over seven billion people in the world today. 315 of them … million live in the United States which is a very, very small amount compared to those who will be miserable and enslaved and dying elsewhere…Well, I say that you will be on the road to new horizons, for we who live in a society where citizenship is a commodity and a politician can become a TV personality and very wealthy, it’s not easy to conform if you have any morality at all…I, I, I said that myself many years ago…

But I do want to thank la Raza…I mean the DNC … I mean the Chamber of Commerce … I mean the RNC … I mean la Raza and the DNC and the Chamber of Commerce and their wholly bought and paid for subsidiary the RNC, the organization for the $500 in affirmative action latino scholarships they’ve given out…today they took in over $5,000,000, but they do have expenses for their brilliant consultants you know, and I think that I have another appointment. I certainly hope so. I would like to stay here, but for the sake of brevity I, I must leave. I do want to thank you, and I want to thank the founding fathers for all the sacrifices they made however much they were in vain but now, most of all, and looking into the failure … I mean the future .. I want to thank Marco Rubio – acting el Presidenta of Juarez la Raza Mexiamerica and Paul Ryan – acting First Lady of Juarez la Raza Mexiamerica and also Mr. Obama – acting Pharaoh and Peeping Tom … I mean Spy Master and Drone Commander of the World – and also I want to thank Professor Irwin Corey and again, thank you. …
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RasThavas on April 9, 2014 at 7:07 PM

The “act of love” comment can be used in some great future tv ads.

bluegill on April 9, 2014 at 7:07 PM

How many acts of love did this guy commit?

The night in 1997 when Ramiro Hernandez-Llanas bludgeoned to death a Kerrville rancher who employed him, then assaulted and terrorized the man’s widow at knifepoint, he mimicked injecting a syringe into his arm — an apparent reference to lethal injection.

Authorities learned after the slaying that killing hadn’t been new to the defendant. He came to Kerrville after escaping prison in Mexico, where he was serving 25 years in prison for a 1989 bludgeoning death in his hometown of Nuevo Laredo.

Hernandez had been living and working on the ranch in southern Kerr County for about 10 days when he knocked on Lich’s door about 10 p.m. on Oct. 14. Under the pretence of an emergency, he lured Lich outside.

Lera Tyler Lich never saw her husband of 26 years alive again.
Hernandez used a piece of rebar to repeatedly hit Glen Lich in the head. He was found about 60 yards from his home.

“There was blood everywhere,” Deputy Randell Sanders testified at trial. “I did not even recognize that there was a head.”
Covered in blood, Hernandez then made his way inside the home and held Lich’s widow captive, promising her that if she gave him $15,000 he would return her husband.

Lera Lich testified that Hernandez tied her to the bed, held a knife to her throat and threatened to kill her daughter and her elderly mother, who was sleeping in another room, if she didn’t cooperate with his demands.

She was able to escape and run to a neighbor for help after he fell asleep.

“It’s not like in town where you’ve got next-door neighbors, or small five-acre plots,” said Wilke, the prosecutor. “This is in the country. The nearest home was a considerable distance away.”

Prior to the murder, Hernandez had raped at knifepoint a 15-year-old Kerrville girl. She testified at his capital murder trial that she knew him as the brother of her friend and accepted a ride from him to go get a hamburger.

“But instead he took her to a ranch where he worked and sexually assaulted her,” Wilke said. “He threatened to kill her and her mother if she told anyone.”

In 1998, while awaiting trial for the slaying, Hernandez assaulted a jailer when he didn’t get eggs for breakfast. He was sentenced to 40 years in prison for that crime. It took several other jailers armed with pepper spray to subdue the man and wrestle away a homemade shank, Kerr County Sheriff Rusty Hierholzer recently recalled.

“Part of it was an escape attempt, and part of it is just he’s an evil, extremely violent man,” Hierholzer said. “Definitely, the wishes of the jury should be carried out.”

After Hernandez’s sentence was assessed in 2000, the native Spanish speaker was confronted in court by some of Glen Lich’s relatives.
Nancy Jones, the victim’s sister, asked the condemned killer to look at her. Then, like Hernandez did years earlier while still covered in blood, she alluded to his eventual execution.

“Vaya con Dios,” she said. Go with God.

And the drugs should be flowing right now…

Blake on April 9, 2014 at 7:10 PM

The “act of love” comment can be used in some great future tv ads.

bluegill on April 9, 2014 at 7:07 PM

It can be used for just about anything. And it should always be attributed to Jeb Bush, it’s author. If an illegal alien kills someone while driving drunk, just say “Jeb Bush says it’s an act of love”. If a muslim stones his daughter, just say “Jeb Bush says it’s an act of love”. It will fit with any and everything.

VorDaj on April 9, 2014 at 7:17 PM

For guys like Hernandez, I’d be willing to bring back ol’ Sparky.

john1schn on April 9, 2014 at 7:18 PM

Let’s you and I make a trip to Mexico. Let’s demand housing, food, healthcare, and the right to vote.

Now you see my severed head about a dozen yards down the stretch of a desolate, dusty road? Yeah, that’s what will happen if Americans dared tried to “do the jobs that Mexicans won’t do.”

Brian in Titletown on April 9, 2014 at 7:21 PM

According to Jeb-Jeb if the illegal has no family and he crosses the border too many times he’ll go blind.

Flange on April 9, 2014 at 7:22 PM

To hell with that BS! I want every last one of them deported. The failure to enforce our border is destroying the country.

bluegill on April 9, 2014 at 7:00 PM

I do not hear anyone, including Sarah Palin or Ted Cruz, calling for 12 million+ illegals to be deported.

What evidence, other than your own desires, shows that it is possible?

RUexperienced on April 9, 2014 at 7:26 PM

“Act of Love” has doomed Jeb, as it should.

Here’s an act of love: a friend (lawyer), after years of living in Europe and dating a very successful man, married him. After starting the paperwork to allow him to live and work in the US, she returned home (for her work), Now, after 1 year of jumping through incredible hoops (including having to PROVE over and over that if the husband, who has a great job, would not go on welfare if the wife/lawyer were ever to lose her job) he is still stuck there and she here, and they are emotionally struggling.

They tried to follow the rules and feel screwed, mainly because every day they read and hear about the tens of millions who have blatantly broken our laws and are lauded as some kind of family-loving heroes.

Suck it Obama. And suck it, Jeb.

LASue on April 9, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Considering at one point in her childhood Jeb’s wife was probably an illegal (according to her dad), Jeb is definitely blinded by the whole ‘act of love’ thing.

uatu1878 on April 9, 2014 at 7:28 PM

Jeb said something about winning…We want to Win…it is not about making a point. Pretty cynical. the RINOs are out of ideas, have been running on fumes since Reagan.

The corporate oligarchs and the leftist fascists pretty much expect for everyone to play by their rules. To be fair to the leftists… at least they pay people to vote for them. RINOs simply expect blind followership. Hubris

r keller on April 9, 2014 at 7:30 PM

Commenters who say they have no issues with legal immigration, just illegal because it is breaking the law are missing one thing.

Legality is something that isn’t written in stone – i.e., if immigration laws are written with such low barriers to entry would you be ok with tons of ‘legal immigration’? afterall, the future influx now is ‘legal’ in this scenario.

When making immigration policy one needs to discuss all facets of it because just making it illegal vs. legal allows tptb to make legal immigration so easy that they can come back and say “look you can’t complain now, everyone is legal”.

uatu1878 on April 9, 2014 at 7:31 PM

Like Rand, Jeb holds contempt for pro-immigration law enforcement and anti-amnesty people, and he feels he can get away with saying what he thinks.

bluegill

I think ink you’re a RINO plant..I’ve believe this from way back based on your big GOP warhawk rants as seen in other posts – story had nothing to do with Rand Paul…but here you are spreading propaganda on a subject not related to the thread at hand.

celt on April 9, 2014 at 7:31 PM

The squishier he sounds, the easier it is for Rubio to impress tea partiers by beating up on him.

oh sure , because TEA Partiers are such stupid and ignorant people , right Yeb ?
BTW, Yeb is just plain old poozzzy whipped ( hia wife is mexican) elitist moron.
Remember, this is the Bush that is LOVED by marxists.

burrata on April 9, 2014 at 7:32 PM

So Yeb, what acts of luv brought Hussein’s drunkel and now dead moochanty to USA ?

burrata on April 9, 2014 at 7:37 PM

– story had nothing to do with Rand Paul…but here you are spreading propaganda on a subject not related to the thread at hand.

celt on April 9, 2014 at 7:31 PM

It is unfortunate to note, but Rand Paul has boarded the Amnesty Train with Mrs Garcia and her nephew.

VorDaj on April 9, 2014 at 7:44 PM

I think ink you’re a RINO plant..I’ve believe this from way back based on your big GOP warhawk rants as seen in other posts – story had nothing to do with Rand Paul…but here you are spreading propaganda on a subject not related to the thread at hand.
celt on April 9, 2014 at 7:31 PM

The post is partially about Jeb’s motivation to say such a thing. I say the “act of love” comment represents what Jeb believes and that he doesn’t fear speaking so bluntly. In fact, Jeb is motivated and unafraid because he, like Rand, holds pro-immigration law enforcement and anti-amnesty people in contempt. Therefore, my comment was totally relevant.

And how has Rand expressed his contempt? See for yourself: http://youtu.be/pxQjlS7JwMo

Ms. Celt, I’m sorry you’re ignorant and frustrated.

bluegill on April 9, 2014 at 7:46 PM

Didn’t want to vote for Rubio before and want to vote for him even less now.

Ukiah on April 9, 2014 at 8:12 PM

He’ll be the “Bush” in the race if there’s no real Bush to choose from. In which case, why go picking fights with Jeb, especially this early?

Because the Bushes are still unpopular?

terryannonline on April 9, 2014 at 8:15 PM

Ms. Celt, I’m sorry you’re ignorant and frustrated.

bluegill on April 9, 2014 at 7:46 PM

bluegill, whatever your issues are, you definitely are not a RINO plant. I still think with a little discipline you would be fine. :)

arnold ziffel on April 9, 2014 at 9:13 PM

I still think with a little discipline you would be fine. :)

arnold ziffel on April 9, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Discipline is overrated.

VorDaj on April 9, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Discipline is overrated.

VorDaj on April 9, 2014 at 9:16 PM

lol, she needs a little.

arnold ziffel on April 9, 2014 at 9:24 PM

Bush isn’t running for president, Kaus speculates, but he’d like to do what he can to make it easier for his friend Marco to run by making himself a convenient punching bag for Rubio on immigration.

Marco gets the nomination and selects his mentor, Jeb Bush, to be VP. Jeb becomes the power behind the stuffed suit in the White House.

Punchenko on April 10, 2014 at 12:07 AM

I think there was a real campaign in Bush World to get Romney to choose Marco for his VP so that when Romney inevitably lost Marco would be GOP Heir Apparent. Sean Hannity even gave Marco his own little special on Fox News.

Punchenko on April 10, 2014 at 12:10 AM

LASue on April 9, 2014 at 7:26 PM

Aside from the national security argument, and the drain on our resources argument, and the violent criminals argument, the biggest argument against “feeling the love” for illegals is the great number of people who are patiently waiting to enter this country legally.

My former husband was a legal immigrant (brought here by me) and we could not bring any of his family here, other than on a tourist visa. Not even his mother.

I currently know a woman who is a legal immigrant who has been waiting for years for her husband to get permission to join her. Has spent thousands of dollars in legal fees. Still waits.

Just because your country is on the other side of a fence or a river, instead of an ocean and a continent, shouldn’t give you special privileges.

ncinca on April 10, 2014 at 1:35 AM

Just because your country is on the other side of a fence or a river, instead of an ocean and a continent, shouldn’t give you special privileges.

ncinca on April 10, 2014 at 1:35 AM

A Statist/Leftist looks across that fence or river and sees millions of new wards of the state voters.

In this brave new world, law abiding citizens don’t stand a chance. The proverbial game isn’t just rigged, it’s phuqued harder than a Las Vegas hooker.

/sigh

Wanderlust on April 10, 2014 at 6:20 AM

A Statist/Leftist looks across that fence or river and sees millions of new voters.

Wanderlust on April 10, 2014 at 6:20 A

Geez, how could I forget the permanent Democrat voting bloc argument?

ncinca on April 10, 2014 at 10:48 AM

I think just about every occurrence of breaking a law is an ‘act of love’.

It is love of one’s self in general, but still an ‘act of love’.

That doesn’t make it a good thing, and I wouldn’t recommend using that defense in court.

s1im on April 10, 2014 at 11:45 AM

It is appalling that businessmen and politicians have no problem selling out the future of the country to make a buck or maintain their power. It’s apparent that money is such a corruptible commodity, they will sell their own children out if that what it takes. The concept of patriotism and integrity is lost on them. They are as reprehensible as any other criminal to me. The fools in this country give them the power and the platform to screw over the people over and over again. There’s a reason they mock guys like Ted Cruz. Guys like him are a threat to their entire operation.

cajunpatriot on April 10, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Bull!

Shamnesty was always Jeb’s agenda not Marco’s.

Marco is a legend in his own mind. He sold his soul for 30 pieces of silver and did what Jeb told him to do. He’s pretty STUPID because Jeb took him out by making him do his dirty work. Somebody that STUPID doesn’t deserve to be POTUS, duh! That’s Obama 2.0 Putin will wipe the floor with the idiot.

Jeb’s lapdog Waterboy is toast here in Florida as is Jeb.

The Bush Mafia ordered the hit on Krispy Kreme. He was just supposed to be running interference for Jeb. Fat Boy got carried away thinking he could run for POTUS himself and his wife being a Wall Street executive he could get the financial backing to do it. He was a threat to Jeb’s Wall Street money that he needs to run.

The plan always was to shove Obama down our throats, allow him to do the Bush Mafia’s dirty work and shove progressivism in our face. Etch-A-Sketch was their patsy. He was the only one, being the father of socialized medicine in this country, who could not beat Obama. After 8 years of Obama the country would be ready for another Bush, Jeb.

Both McLame and Etch-A-Sketch were stupid enough to allow the Bush Mafia machine political consultants get involved in running their campaigns. They sabotaged them.

The Bush Family is despicable.

W spent money like a drunken sailor. It wasn’t just the war. He had a GOP Congress and Senate for 6 years. All he did was grow government. The only one who spent more money than Bush was Obama.

There were 6373 pieces of pork attached to 1 bill that W signed off on. His reign was one of gross corruption.

Jeb has already told us he will govern like corrupt LBJ. One of his daddy’s BFFs.

Jeb always was the one who was supposed to run for POTUS not his brother. His brother beat him to it. TFB!

Jayrae on April 10, 2014 at 4:37 PM

cajunpatriot on April 10, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Bravo! You get it.

Jayrae on April 10, 2014 at 4:39 PM