Holder: Maybe lawful gun owners should have to wear electronic bracelets to use them

posted at 8:41 am on April 8, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

How old am I? I’m old enough to remember when the only people on whom government wanted to put electronic bracelets were criminals. Attorney General Eric Holder testified yesterday on Capitol Hill about gun-safety programs promoted by the Department of Justice, which wants almost $400 million in the next budget for “common sense” regulations like electronic bracelets for firearms:

“I think that one of the things that we learned when we were trying to get passed those common sense reforms last year, Vice President Biden and I had a meeting with a group of technology people and we talked about how guns can be made more safe,” he said.

“By making them either through finger print identification, the gun talks to a bracelet or something that you might wear, how guns can be used only by the person who is lawfully in possession of the weapon.”

“It’s those kinds of things that I think we want to try to explore so that we can make sure that people have the ability to enjoy their Second Amendment rights, but at the same time decreasing the misuse of weapons that lead to the kinds of things that we see on a daily basis,” Holder said.

First, the electronic bracelet concept has barely passed the theoretical stage, let alone made it into the commercial market. There is literally one pistol model being sold in one gun story in America which fits Holder’s “common sense” requirement. How exactly would that allow Americans to “enjoy their Second Amendment rights”?  Most gun owners — and there are over 60 million of them — handle and store their weapons safely. More people get murdered each year by body parts than by rifles, for instance, which had been the focus of gun-control efforts over the last sixteen months.

Drunk drivers kill nearly as many people each year as all firearms, and that figure may be seriously underestimated. Driving is already a government-regulated activity, so why not focus on installing breathalyzers in autos? Because when people need to drive, they don’t want a failing breathalyzer unit to keep their car from starting, and since most car owners don’t drink and drive in the first place, they don’t want to be treated like a criminal just to exercise their privilege of driving on public roads. Why should law-abiding citizens have to deal with the same kind of system malfunction at the precise moment they need a firearm to defend themselves or their families?

“Common sense” would be to leave law-abiding citizens alone. Of course, “common sense” would also be to not traffic rifles to drug cartels across the border into Mexico without any way to track them or retrieve them, so we know what role “common sense” plays in Eric Holder’s DoJ.

Update: I originally said that drunk drivers kill nearly twice as many people as those with firearms, but I was thinking specifically about handgun murders. I’ve changed the wording on that sentence; thanks to Tom W for the correction.


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Holder wants tracking bracelets on lawful gun owners but would go ape sh*t if it was suggested that be done to the illegals that he catches and releases.

BeachBum on April 8, 2014 at 8:43 AM

How about an instant blood chemical analysis for all the mentally deranged to make sure their meds are in order before leaving home–all be it equally ridiculous, you might be closer to a solution..

hillsoftx on April 8, 2014 at 8:45 AM

More people get murdered each year by body parts than by rifles,

But rifles overthrow governments.

DFCtomm on April 8, 2014 at 8:45 AM

It is my sincere hope and if there is any justice in the world Eric Holder will one day be wearing an ankle bracelet but only after a very long stint wearing a bright orange jumpsuit.

Happy Nomad on April 8, 2014 at 8:46 AM

How about Holder puts a bracelet around his neck so we know where hi is all the time? Jackwagon….

HomeoftheBrave on April 8, 2014 at 8:46 AM

hi = he, too early.

HomeoftheBrave on April 8, 2014 at 8:47 AM

How about an instant blood chemical analysis for all the mentally deranged to make sure their meds are in order before leaving home–all be it equally ridiculous, you might be closer to a solution..

hillsoftx on April 8, 2014 at 8:45 AM

Or how about putting a breathalizer interlock on firearms to ensure nobody can shoot drunk?

Happy Nomad on April 8, 2014 at 8:48 AM

Will the electronic bracelets be yellow and in the shape of a six-pointed star, by any chance?

Maddie on April 8, 2014 at 8:49 AM

The NSA already knows where everyone is.

albill on April 8, 2014 at 8:49 AM

Let’s just skip this step and go straight to tattooing a number on the forearm.

mankai on April 8, 2014 at 8:49 AM

Why don’t we require that gun owners hand load each cartridge immediately before firing? These camels keep looking for a way into the tent. No idea I’ve seen would ever solve the problem Holder is trying to solve but doesn’t dare utter outloud because that would be racist.

teejk on April 8, 2014 at 8:50 AM

No, I think they need to be branded or tattooed, that way we can visually see who is licensed.

Then we need to have them all move to the same area of the city, maybe even have, in each city, an area that is fenced off.

That way, when they leave, we can make sure the weapons are left behind to keep the rest of the population safe.

But one step at a time…first we have to make sure that guns are “evil”, need to be licensed.

One step at a time, little steps…then everyone will be safer…one step at a time, little by little, chipping away to help us be safer.

right2bright on April 8, 2014 at 8:51 AM

How about a pair of matching bracelets for Holder, with a short length of high-tensile steel chain between them.

CurtZHP on April 8, 2014 at 8:51 AM

“Drunk drivers kill nearly twice as many people each year as all firearms…”

How can that be? your link claims 10,000 drunk driver caused deaths, but I’m pretty sure firearm murders in the US are around 11,000, and all gun deaths including suicides are around 32k.

http://usconservatives.about.com/od/capitalpunishment/a/Putting-Gun-Death-Statistics-In-Perspective.htm

tomwinfl on April 8, 2014 at 8:52 AM

How about “voting bracelets”, how about that Holder?

I know, we will settle for just ID for voting…

right2bright on April 8, 2014 at 8:52 AM

Let’s just skip this step and go straight to tattooing a number on the forearm.

mankai on April 8, 2014 at 8:49 AM

Right next to the one showing support for the Koch brothers?

CurtZHP on April 8, 2014 at 8:52 AM

Maybe the LIBS should wear them,…..that way we could see them coming.

Offhanded on April 8, 2014 at 8:52 AM

Er … that would be an infringement, would it not?

OldEnglish on April 8, 2014 at 8:53 AM

How about we first put GPS tracking bracelets on Congress, and every other Federal employee, including the AG?

ConstantineXI on April 8, 2014 at 8:53 AM

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Murphy9 on April 8, 2014 at 8:53 AM

Let’s just skip this step and go straight to tattooing a number on the forearm.

mankai on April 8, 2014 at 8:49 AM

You meant forehead,….right?

Offhanded on April 8, 2014 at 8:54 AM

Holder: Maybe lawful gun owners should have to wear electronic bracelets to use them

Yeah but… use them on who?

Akzed on April 8, 2014 at 8:54 AM

Let’s just skip this step and go straight to tattooing a number on the forearm.

mankai on April 8, 2014 at 8:49 AM

FIRST!!! :-)

Maddie on April 8, 2014 at 8:54 AM

Fast forward 5 years. Libs will want to regulate the wearing of the bracelets too – as it is sure to scare the little progs at Starbucks & Whole Foods. “Oh noes, a gun owner, look at his bracelet.”

kevinkristy on April 8, 2014 at 8:56 AM

No, I think they need to be branded or tattooed, that way we can visually see who is licensed.

Then we need to have them all move to the same area of the city, maybe even have, in each city, an area that is fenced off.

That way, when they leave, we can make sure the weapons are left behind to keep the rest of the population safe.

But one step at a time…first we have to make sure that guns are “evil”, need to be licensed.

One step at a time, little steps…then everyone will be safer…one step at a time, little by little, chipping away to help us be safer.

right2bright on April 8, 2014 at 8:51 AM

That might work up to a point, but eventually, for their own safety and well-being, the gun-owners would have to be moved into special facilities outside major population centers. But not to worry. They’ll be well cared for and given gainful work.

Arbeit macht frei.

CurtZHP on April 8, 2014 at 8:56 AM

Why not make them wear a brightly colored collar or tattoo a number or mark on their foreheads?!

Another ‘great idea’ from the new ‘Hitler’ and his ‘Gestapo’!

easyt65 on April 8, 2014 at 8:57 AM

Holder can go to Hell and DIAF, of course. Any smart person will never comply and disable the “safety” mechanisms of “smart” weapon technology. But the bracelets are idiotic in another way as well. They identify an individual as carrying. Not only will law enforcement invent reasons to harass people wearing such bracelets, but criminals will have a better idea who the easy marks are. Of course those who don’t want to carry could just get a bracelet and pretend to carry.

NotCoach on April 8, 2014 at 8:57 AM

A better idea would be for Holder to be in a blaze-orange jumpsuit with a six-foot-five, three-hundred-and-fifty-pound roommate named Tiny.

Holder defines law-abiding citizens as threats. And gun owners as doubly so, because they are the ones least likely to support him and his Teleprompter Messiah.

He’s passed the point of ideologue and is now openly “gunning” for tyrant. He should remember how that ended in Athens.

clear ether

eon

eon on April 8, 2014 at 8:57 AM

…just heard on the news…”the government” is spending up to 2 BILLION dollars the research these bracelets to be worn…or the gun will not discharge with out them being worn. Why is taxpayer money being used?…more JugEarred cronies…getting money?
…Hell!…just rob us!

KOOLAID2 on April 8, 2014 at 8:58 AM

…that people have the ability to enjoy their Second Amendment rights.

Constitutional rights aren’t enjoyed. There are exercised, and Holder knows the difference.

RadClown on April 8, 2014 at 8:58 AM

Maybe lawful gun owners should have to wear electronic bracelets to use them

Maybe Holder should have to wear soap on the rope in the shower.

Bmore on April 8, 2014 at 9:01 AM

I say we should make them wear yellow Stars of David. That’s been used before, and quite successfully!

ldenton1 on April 8, 2014 at 9:01 AM

I hate the idea, and the the principle behind the idea. Just glad that something like this would be easy to remove from a firearm.

HarryBackside on April 8, 2014 at 9:02 AM

Maybe they can wear little patches, too!

Good Lt on April 8, 2014 at 9:02 AM

…Hell!…just rob us!

KOOLAID2 on April 8, 2014 at 8:58 AM

That happens a week from today.

CTSherman on April 8, 2014 at 9:04 AM

Maybe we should just wear a yellow star.

esr1951 on April 8, 2014 at 9:04 AM

Let’s just skip this step and go straight to tattooing a number on the forearm.

mankai on April 8, 2014 at 8:49 AM

You meant forehead,….right?

Offhanded on April 8, 2014 at 8:54 AM

Let ‘em start by modeling the German Progressives of the 30s first.

mankai on April 8, 2014 at 9:04 AM

Bad link. Sorry. Allow me to try again.

Maybe lawful gun owners should have to wear electronic bracelets to use them

Maybe Holder should have to wear soap on a rope in the shower.

Bmore on April 8, 2014 at 9:04 AM

Much better, or as Dire might say. Fixed!…; )

Bmore on April 8, 2014 at 9:05 AM

DIAF Eric.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 8, 2014 at 9:06 AM

Maybe citizens with mental health issues should wear patch on their shirt?

Maybe convicted felons should wear a …

hawkdriver on April 8, 2014 at 9:07 AM

If the repubs take the Senate erics impeachment should be number 1 business.

tim c on April 8, 2014 at 9:07 AM

Will the electronic bracelets be yellow and in the shape of a six-pointed star, by any chance?

Maddie on April 8, 2014 at 8:49 AM

I was just coming to post the exact same thing.

gophergirl on April 8, 2014 at 9:08 AM

Eric Holder must have his entire retirement portfolio sunk into firearm companies.

gwelf on April 8, 2014 at 9:08 AM

KOOLAID2 on April 8, 2014 at 8:58 AM

Well, he has to get them to market inside three years, if you catch my drift.

OldEnglish on April 8, 2014 at 9:08 AM

(CNSNews.com) – Attorney General Eric Holder, a longtime gun-control advocate, said many years ago that schools should repeat “anti-gun” messages every day.

The goal, he said at the time, was to “brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way.”

Akzed on April 8, 2014 at 9:08 AM

Did the guns you sent over the border to Mexico come with ankle bracelets Mr. Holder?

Rovin on April 8, 2014 at 9:09 AM

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2014/02/open-letter-to-legislative-tyrants-of.html?m=1

^^^must read if you haven’t seen it.

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

Murphy9 on April 8, 2014 at 9:09 AM

I think we should have all EBT recipients wear a “Moocher” bracelet… that way, by seeing these folks walk amongst us – we can better appreciate them when we pay for their groceries and McDonalds!

Key West Reader on April 8, 2014 at 9:10 AM

Holder knows this is BS and wouldn’t fly but he gets the money for the study in his budget.More tax dollars that can be steered to friends and his retirement.

docflash on April 8, 2014 at 9:11 AM

But rifles overthrow governments.

DFCtomm on April 8, 2014 at 8:45 AM

No. People overthrow governments.

People, with rifles…

JohnGalt23 on April 8, 2014 at 9:12 AM

Holder needs to be wearing a ball and chain and be busting rocks in the hot sun.

txdoc on April 8, 2014 at 9:14 AM

It is my sincere hope and if there is any justice in the world Eric Holder will one day be wearing an ankle bracelet but only after a very long stint wearing a bright orange jumpsuit.

Happy Nomad on April 8, 2014 at 8:46 AM

A bright orange jump suit is letting him off easy. A noose is more appropriate.

RandallinHerndon on April 8, 2014 at 9:14 AM

I was going to say they learned nothing from the past century but actually they learned and are following the lessons to a T.

vityas on April 8, 2014 at 9:14 AM

Key West Reader on April 8, 2014 at 9:10 AM

I spent a short time on food stamps. I most certainly was NOT a moocher. I also didn’t eat out while I was on them.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 8, 2014 at 9:15 AM

Next thing Moochelle will require fat people to wear bracelets that prevents them from going into Shipley’s and Dunkin Donuts

txdoc on April 8, 2014 at 9:15 AM

The only bracelets I’m interested in the government buying are the ones to be placed around Holder’s wrists and ankles.

I’ll pay for his orange jumpsuit.

Dusty on April 8, 2014 at 9:16 AM

Slightly O/T, but this article got me thinking about how criminals obtain firearms. From my limited research criminals obtain firearms in the following order.

(1). Straw purchase.
(2). Corrupt FFL holder.
(3). Firearms stolen from FFL holder place of business.
(4). Unlicensed gun dealer who acquires firearms from all sources listed here and from outside the US.
(5). Stolen from legal firearm owners.
(6). Transactions that appear legal to honest FFL holders.
(7). From the US government through programs like F&F.
(8). Military institutions.

Numbe six occurs when someone holds an unexpired CCL, but has committed a felon after said CCL was obtained. Most gun dealers do not run you through the instant background check if you have a “valid” CCL.

Firearms stolen from legal owners is way down the list………..that is not what the media has been telling us.

HonestLib on April 8, 2014 at 9:18 AM

Every time I hear this stuff it instantly reminds me of how weak the Republicans are that the jerks feel emboldened enough to express this stuff out loud. Can’t they impeach this guy? Why are the Republicans so terrified all time? It’s an unnatural kind of fear.

Buddahpundit on April 8, 2014 at 9:18 AM

I spent a short time on food stamps. I most certainly was NOT a moocher. I also didn’t eat out while I was on them.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 8, 2014 at 9:15 AM

I grew up on welfare and I wasn’t a moocher. My father was. Back in those days you could only buy staples with food coupons – milk, bread, butter, eggs, vegetables, meat … no candy, prepared foods, convenience foods and no fast foods. Back then moochers were pretty rare – today they are a Majority.

Key West Reader on April 8, 2014 at 9:19 AM

Let’s just skip this step and go straight to tattooing a number on the forearm.

mankai on April 8, 2014 at 8:49 AM

You meant forehead,….right?

Offhanded on April 8, 2014 at 8:54 AM

Its easy to get your marks of the Beast mixed up.

In Revelations, those who accept the mark on the forehead or hand will be allowed to live a normal life- those who reject it will be persecuted.

The Nazis did it just the opposite.

Eric wants to try a whole new system- and whadda ya bet there will be a FEW more electronic devices in those bracelets than just a simple interlock with the gun?

Pless1foEngrish on April 8, 2014 at 9:19 AM

This is scary for many reasons but mostly because it doesn’t violate the 2nd amendment, consequently leading to more of big brother getting his nose into the day to day coming and goings of private citizens.

oldernwiser on April 8, 2014 at 9:21 AM

“Common sense” would be to leave law-abiding citizens alone.

Haven’t seen any common sense around these parts for many a year now.

Cleombrotus on April 8, 2014 at 9:21 AM

Should have added from private sale. This one would have come after number 4. Oh well, not like I got cred anyway!

HonestLib on April 8, 2014 at 9:22 AM

Under a just law system Holder would be wearing an orange jump suit.
That would be a better use of our tax dollars.

Kissmygrits on April 8, 2014 at 9:22 AM

It is my sincere hope and if there is any justice in the world Eric Holder will one day be wearing an ankle bracelet but only after a very long stint wearing a bright orange jumpsuit.

Happy Nomad on April 8, 2014 at 8:46 AM

A bright orange jump suit is letting him off easy. A noose is more appropriate.

RandallinHerndon on April 8, 2014 at 9:14 AM

Happy Nomad –
Look what your flippancy bring.
You’re an inspiration to some.

verbaluce on April 8, 2014 at 9:22 AM

I spent a short time on food stamps. I most certainly was NOT a moocher. I also didn’t eat out while I was on them. annoyinglittletwerp on April 8, 2014 at 9:15 AM

Riiight… and someone who spent a short time using heroin was not a junkie.

Akzed on April 8, 2014 at 9:22 AM

Yeah this won’t open a Pandora’s box……if you carry concealed and your bracelet is visible are you still considered carrying concealed?

yada yada yada on April 8, 2014 at 9:25 AM

This man is one of the true enemies of freedom, and it is a travesty that he has this position of power.

WisCon on April 8, 2014 at 9:25 AM

Everyone is free to extrapolate all sorts of tin hat theories,
but worth noting Holder wasn’t in any way talking about or suggesting any type of tracking bracelet.
Or labor camps…or brain thought chips.
He was discussing safety measures the gun industry has introduced and promoted.
Fair enough that Ed let that idea hang in his misleading post headline and intro.

verbaluce on April 8, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Happy Nomad –
Look what your flippancy bring.
You’re an inspiration to some.
verbaluce on April 8, 2014 at 9:22 AM

A. Holder orchestrated gun running to the Sinaloa Cartel, the harassment of conservative orgs by the IRS, and more. You don’t think that he deserves a room at Leavenworth?

B. Why not go after RandallinHerndon, who should be banned?

Akzed on April 8, 2014 at 9:27 AM

In Revelations, those who accept the mark on the forehead or hand will be allowed to live a normal life- those who reject it will be persecuted. Pless1foEngrish on April 8, 2014 at 9:19 AM

Those who can’t spell the title of a biblical book surprise no one by misinterpreting it.

Akzed on April 8, 2014 at 9:29 AM

A related article:

Guns Don’t Kill People, Democrats Kill People

A quote from the article:

..what may be shocking is the near exclusivity of firearm-related homicides to a small subset of neighborhoods; neighborhoods that vote predominately for Democrat candidates.

And a follow up article by the same author:

A Localized Culture of Violence

A quote from that article:

The data for Minnesota, Virginia, and Louisiana indicate that 67% of the firearm homicides (a rate of more than 14 per 100,000 people) occurred in neighborhoods with a racial composition of more than 30% African American, a per capita income of less than $25,000, and a population density greater than 640 people per square mile. The firearm homicide rate in the remaining 99% of the land area was 1.3 per 100,000 people

.

climbnjump on April 7, 2014 at 5:16 PM

I posted the above in another thread yesterday.

If we are going to be issuing bracelets, there are really only two groups of people who need to wear them. The Dishonorable Mr. Holder belongs to both.

climbnjump on April 8, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Happy Nomad –
Look what your flippancy bring.
You’re an inspiration to some.

verbaluce on April 8, 2014 at 9:22 AM

Hey troll-

What flippancy? I’m serious that Eric Holder is a criminal and in a just world he would be doing a very long sentence for his crimes.

Happy Nomad on April 8, 2014 at 9:29 AM

Everyone is free to extrapolate all sorts of tin hat theories,
but worth noting Holder wasn’t in any way talking about or suggesting any type of tracking bracelet.
Or labor camps…or brain thought chips.
He was discussing safety measures the gun industry has introduced and promoted.
Fair enough that Ed let that idea hang in his misleading post headline and intro.

verbaluce on April 8, 2014 at 9:26 AM

You don’t make any sense.
If this is just some safety measure the gun industry has produced then why does the justice department care? The justice department is interested in what exactly? They want to fund some sort of advertisement campaign? They want to subsidize the technology? Those may be liberal approaches to a “problem” they see but it still has nothing to do with the DoJ.

gwelf on April 8, 2014 at 9:30 AM

verbaluce on April 8, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Good grief, but every time you post some of your nonsense
Samuel Adams’s quote immediately comes to mind, the one about..”go from us in peace, we desire neither your counsel or your arms…and let history forget that you were our countrymen.”

Here:

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
― Samuel Adams

Cleombrotus on April 8, 2014 at 9:31 AM

If requiring a picture ID to vote is blatantly racist, why isn’t this?

applebutter on April 8, 2014 at 9:31 AM

funny how he purposely did not put this tech onto the F&F weapons….yeah funny.
shall not be infringed.
its the one amendment that is extremely clear with no ambiguity yet its the one thats attacked most often.

dmacleo on April 8, 2014 at 9:31 AM

Holder wants to let felons out of jail because black and wants to track gun owners because white. I wonder if Holder wears the same bling as Jay Z? Message to Holder FOAD!

neyney on April 8, 2014 at 9:31 AM

He was discussing safety measures the gun industry has introduced and promoted.
Fair enough that Ed let that idea hang in his misleading post headline and intro.

verbaluce on April 8, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Or maybe he was discussing an electronic device that can be remotely interfered with and made inoperable by the powers that be that will make the firearm useless.

yada yada yada on April 8, 2014 at 9:32 AM

verbaluce on April 8, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Tin hat theories?

Like holder oversaw a gun running program that put guns in the hands of mexican drug cartels?

That he lied to a judge about a reporter being a terrorist threat in order to get surveillance approved on him? And that he then lied about his lie to Congress?

gwelf on April 8, 2014 at 9:32 AM

“I think that one of the things that we learned when we were trying to get passed those common sense reforms last year, Vice President Biden and I had a meeting with a group of technology people and we talked about how guns can be made more safe,” he said.

I don’t see this as saying the gun industry is all that heavily involved.

CurtZHP on April 8, 2014 at 9:33 AM

He was discussing safety measures the gun industry has introduced and promoted. Fair enough that Ed let that idea hang in his misleading post headline and intro. verbaluce on April 8, 2014 at 9:26 AM

When did the gun industry introduce this? I mean, it might be out there but I haven’t heard of it until now. But if so, why is Holder looking to throw money at re-inventing it?

Tell us how this is not an infringement on the 2nd Amendment.

I say that newsprint should be taxed a 100%. Would that be an infringement on newspapers’ 1st Amendment rights or not?

Akzed on April 8, 2014 at 9:33 AM

I’m serious that Eric Holder is a criminal and in a just world he would be doing a very long sentence for his crimes.

Happy Nomad on April 8, 2014 at 9:29 AM

In a just world he’d still be wondering how he’s going to pay off his college loans instead of becoming a millionaire on the backs of tax paying citizens.

Cleombrotus on April 8, 2014 at 9:33 AM

If requiring a picture ID to vote is blatantly racist, why isn’t this?

applebutter on April 8, 2014 at 9:31 AM

Excellent point.

Liberals freak out that picture ID is disenfranchising poor voters and denying them their right to vote…but somehow the gun regulatory regime doesn’t interfere with second amendment rights.

gwelf on April 8, 2014 at 9:34 AM

Everyone is free to extrapolate all sorts of tin hat theories,
but worth noting Holder wasn’t in any way talking about or suggesting any type of tracking bracelet.
Or labor camps…or brain thought chips.
He was discussing safety measures the gun industry has introduced and promoted.
Fair enough that Ed let that idea hang in his misleading post headline and intro.

verbaluce on April 8, 2014 at 9:26 AM

You are so gd stupid it’s not even funny.

HumpBot Salvation on April 8, 2014 at 9:34 AM

verbaluce on April 8, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Be sure to supply us with a list of a criminals who follow “safety measures” or any other gun laws for that matter.

Rovin on April 8, 2014 at 9:34 AM

Here’s What Happened to Crime in Chicago After Illinois Finally Passed Concealed Carry Law

On July 9, 2013, a bill to recognize Illinois gun owners’ right to carry concealed firearms was passed by both chambers of the state Legislature. Illinois became the last state in the nation to allow public possession of concealed guns.
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Gun control advocates warned that high-crime areas, like Chicago, would only see more violence if residents were allowed to carry guns in public.

In reality, the opposite may be happening.

On Tuesday, the Chicago Police Department announced that the city experienced its lowest murder rate since 1958 in the first quarter of 2014. There were 6 fewer murders than the same timeframe in 2013 — a 9 percent drop — and 55 fewer murders than 2012, police said.
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No word on bracelet usage in this piece.

Akzed on April 8, 2014 at 9:36 AM

Forget the commenting about his stupid idea about bracelets, go to the source – where are the calls to fire him?

► Fire Holden.

albill on April 8, 2014 at 9:38 AM

If Holder gets his wish, I pity the people who don’t wear a bracelet. Talk about being a walking target of criminals! In fact, I’m going to go into business manufacturing look-alikes for people who don’t carry a gun, but also don’t want to advertise to society’s riffraff that they aren’t armed.

CJ on April 8, 2014 at 9:39 AM

Forget the commenting about his stupid idea about bracelets, go to the source – where are the calls to fire him?

albill on April 8, 2014 at 9:38 AM

Good point. Recalls another famous quote:

“The only thing necessary for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing.”

Cleombrotus on April 8, 2014 at 9:40 AM

Everyone is free to extrapolate all sorts of tin hat theories,
but worth noting Holder wasn’t in any way talking about or suggesting any type of tracking bracelet.
Or labor camps…or brain thought chips.
He was discussing safety measures the gun industry has introduced and promoted.
Fair enough that Ed let that idea hang in his misleading post headline and intro.
verbaluce on April 8, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Obviously, the “gun industry” is much closer to representing your interests than it is mine. Happily, I have other representatives.

applebutter on April 8, 2014 at 9:41 AM

Happy Nomad –
Look what your flippancy bring.
You’re an inspiration to some.
verbaluce on April 8, 2014 at 9:22 AM

A problem you’ll never have…..

itsspideyman on April 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM

#FastAndFurious gun runner Holder(D-PardonGate) sez gun owners should wear chains like slaves… Democrats love Slavery.

DANEgerus on April 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM

Maybe democrats should have to wear electronic bracelets, just because…

PatriotRider on April 8, 2014 at 9:43 AM

Does this mean I’ll also get some cool mutant powers like Magneto?

Nutstuyu on April 8, 2014 at 9:45 AM

NotCoach on April 8, 2014 at 8:57 AM

Ah, but think of the commercial potential in placebo firearms bracelets. Now *everyone* you know can “carry”! Just slip on one of our faux “Glock Specials” – in classic black and safety yellow – and the bad guys will leave you alone. After all, if you’re not printing, they don’t know if you’re armed or not, do they? ;)

He was discussing safety measures the gun industry has introduced and promoted.

verbaluce on April 8, 2014 at 9:26 AM

No, he was talking about spending taxpayer money to fund a gun control measure and advocating it being mandatory. That would be an infringement of the 2d Amendment.

If requiring a picture ID to vote is blatantly racist, why isn’t this?

applebutter on April 8, 2014 at 9:31 AM

No picture, duh!

Or maybe he was discussing an electronic device that can be remotely interfered with and made inoperable by the powers that be that will make the firearm useless.

yada yada yada on April 8, 2014 at 9:32 AM

That’s certainly true of the one that is currently slated for sale in CA. They advertise that they will have suppressors so you could lock out firearms in, say, government buildings.

GWB on April 8, 2014 at 9:48 AM

verbaluce on April 8, 2014 at 9:26 AM

Verbs, I have a lot of friends that even you would consider liberal who own firearms for various reasons. They do have an understanding that government research often results in government mandates that are not really realistic or helpful. Seems the government (both when R and D’s are passing laws) is more agenda driven these days than being honest servants to us citizens who just happen to be the ones electing them.

Yes, you are correct that the industry is looking into safety features; (1) on their own accord and (2) by soft force from the government and other groups. To date, none have been both reasonable and accepted by the consumer. It is my belief that one day soon a firearms manufacturer will team up with an administration like G.E. has with the current WH; for a competitive advantage over other manufacturers. When this happens, then a lot of wishes of gun control folks will come to market, so to speak.

Post is too long, but the government will use 3-D printer technology against the firearms industry and get them on board with the government’s agenda of gun control; so that the government will pass laws making the manufacture of firearms illegal by private citizens using 3-D printer technology. This is already in the works.

This is my take on the article. Hope all is well with you and enjoy your posts from time to time.

HonestLib on April 8, 2014 at 9:50 AM

iirc the only real reason manufacturers were even looking into this was due to CA passing laws mandating it.

dmacleo on April 8, 2014 at 9:54 AM

Of course, the real reason for this proposal is to make everyone gay.

OldEnglish on April 8, 2014 at 9:56 AM

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