Bill Kristol: C’mon, there’s no way Jeb Bush will be the nominee

posted at 3:21 pm on April 8, 2014 by Allahpundit

Ben Smith said the same thing yesterday, writing that “the notion that Jeb Bush is going to be the Republican presidential nominee is a fantasy nourished by the people who used to run the Republican Party.” Used to? We went into battle against ObamaCare in 2012 with the guy who signed a law that paved the way for ObamaCare. We faced an electorate that was war-weary after five years of Iraq in 2008 with the most hawkish possible candidate we could find. Never, ever underestimate the establishment’s ability to sell a bad candidate to the masses of Republican primary voters who don’t pay much attention to politics and are eager for a familiar, theoretically “electable” choice. Tell ‘em what’s up, Ramesh:

As I’ve argued in several Bloomberg columns, the party since 1984 has given its presidential nomination only to people who are at its ideological center of gravity or to its left, and never to anyone to its right. There are reasons for that pattern — having to do with, among other things, the perennial inability of the party’s right to agree on a candidate — and those reasons haven’t disappeared.

Neither Perry nor Huntsman had the support of the party’s establishment, or the national network of funders and supporters, that Bush would have. Perry’s notorious immigration comment during the 2012 campaign — he called some of his opponents heartless on the issue — harmed him so badly because he needed to solidify the conservative end of the party against an establishment candidate, Mitt Romney…

Bush’s position within the primary electorate, in other words, would be more like that of Senator John McCain — who won the nomination not so long ago, in 2008. Actually, it would be better than McCain’s, as McCain’s record included a lot more deviations from the party line than Bush’s does.

Let me paint you a picture. Bush announces he’s running. Soon after, Rubio announces that he isn’t, having concluded that too many of his potential advisors and fundraisers will gravitate towards Jeb. Paul Ryan likewise decides he’ll pass, figuring his best bet at influence is as the next Ways and Means chairman. Bush hits the trail, talking up education reform and ticking off a few well-chosen points of disagreement with his brother’s foreign policy. Meanwhile, Christie, his main rival for establishment support, is too damaged by Bridgegate and never gathers much momentum. Neither does Jindal, who’s overshadowed by bigger-name candidates both to his left (Bush) and his right (Rand Paul and Ted Cruz) and can’t quite find a niche. Bush, now largely unchallenged in the center and center-right, consolidates their support. Over on the right, Rand Paul and Ted Cruz bash each other’s brains in on foreign policy and the NSA until one of them emerges as the conservative choice. That’s when Bush’s backers launch a ferocious campaign attacking Cruz/Paul as fringe material — government shutdowns! a disarmed military! — who’ll never stand a chance against Hillary. It works and Jeb sweeps to the nomination, only to lose badly in the general when voters are forced to decide whether they want to return to “the Clinton era” or “the Bush era.” The only X factor in all this is Scott Walker, who’s prominent enough after his big fight with the unions to find the sort of niche that’ll elude Jindal. He could be a compromise candidate between the right, which fears that Cruz and Paul really aren’t electable, and the center, which fears that the Bush brand will be poison in the general election. Bushworld will have to deal with Walker somehow. If he loses his bid for reelection as governor in Wisconsin, that’ll do it, but no one expects him to. How do you destroy him on the launch pad?

When push comes to shove, I think the GOP establishment in the tea-party era regards its first and most important duty to be stopping conservative candidates in the primary. Partly that’s because they think ideologues can’t win a national election, partly it’s because they fear the diminution of their own power if someone like Paul becomes president, and partly it’s because I think they’d feel more comfortable with center-leftists like the Clintons, who won’t do anything “unpredictable,” than they would with GOP wild cards like Paul or Cruz. If you want to stop Jeb, you need to give them a better centrist alternative. Thanks to Bridgegate, there probably isn’t one — although maybe Walker, betting that tea partiers won’t turn on him after winning the war over labor in Wisconsin, will position himself ostentatiously as a centrist for the presidential race. And if you want them to support a right-wing nominee in the general, in the unlikely event that we end up with a right-wing nominee, you need the left to nominate an “unpredictable” liberal so that they can embrace the GOP nominee as the lesser of two evils. Elizabeth Warren would fit the bill. But that’s probably not happening either.


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Sure thing.

Bmore on April 8, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Oh, and Meow.

Bmore on April 8, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Paul Ryan is a big spender.

You people are no different than the Kos crowd who branded Joe Lieberman a NEOCON despite the fact that his voting record was to the left Hillary Clinton. You are just two peas at the opposite ends of the same pod as the kosites.

jerryofva on April 8, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Paul Ryan calls illegal immigrants ‘Undocumented Americans.’ As a naturalised American, you have no idea how profoundly offencive I find that.

Resist We Much on April 8, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Meow.

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Crap.

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Sorry Lance, didn’t even see the turn coming. My apologies. ; )

Bmore on April 8, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Sorry Lance, didn’t even see the turn coming. My apologies. ; )

Bmore on April 8, 2014 at 5:20 PM

You sir, will never beat this.

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 5:22 PM

You don’t speak for all “people.”

No, I don’t, which is why I didn’t include the word all. But, you know, I didn’t.

You said no one can win the nomination while opposing amnesty. Obviously, you are completely wrong.

You might choose to make excuses for pro-amnesty candidates, since you couldn’t care less about mass illegal alien amnesty, but that doesn’t mean the rest of us will.

bluegill on April 8, 2014 at 5:13 PM

Sorry, let me rephrase that then. No one can win the nomination who seriously takes a very hard line approach to amnesty. Romney was not serious and tried to walk it back in the debates with Obama. That was primary posturing by Romney.

Every candidate they are talking about is pro-amnesty to some degree. It’s a question of how easily or to what extent they cave on the issue.

Rocks on April 8, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Jeb is the choice of the neocons and Karl Rove it’s a done deal, especially with the Bridgetender out of the picture

Brock Robamney on April 8, 2014 at 5:27 PM

Sorry, let me rephrase that then. No one can win the nomination who seriously takes a very hard line approach to amnesty. Romney was not serious and tried to walk it back in the debates with Obama. That was primary posturing by Romney.
Every candidate they are talking about is pro-amnesty to some degree. It’s a question of how easily or to what extent they cave on the issue.
Rocks on April 8, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Romney did not walk-back his position on amnesty during the debates with Obama.

bluegill on April 8, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 5:22 PM

I saw that, nice job! ; ) Hey, if you have a chance and are so inclined follow this link. When you get there, just keep hitting the next page button. : )

Bmore on April 8, 2014 at 5:35 PM

The Constitution is a statist document

That might be the single most laughably ignorant thing I’ve read here in some time.

MTF on April 8, 2014 at 5:43 PM

If he represents the best than why didn’t he know that Libertarians support open borders?

Enough said.

jerryofva

He never said he didn’t know libertarians were for open borders. Those were your words, not his.

If you represent the best of libertarians, it’s no wonder you guys never win elections.

xblade on April 8, 2014 at 5:47 PM

If you represent the best of libertarians, it’s no wonder you guys never win elections.
xblade on April 8, 2014 at 5:47 PM

Poor Jerryofva is a legend in his own mind.

bluegill on April 8, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Romney did not walk-back his position on amnesty during the debates with Obama.

bluegill

And even if he had, those debates came AFTER he secured the nomination as an anti-amnesty candidate, something the person you’re responding to says can’t be done.

And here’s a newsflash….the candidate that comes out against amnesty will get the nomination again.

xblade on April 8, 2014 at 5:49 PM

Poor Jerryofva is a legend in his own mind.

bluegill on April 8, 2014 at 5:49 PM

True! You my dear have been made into an actual legend. A thank you would be nice.

Bmore on April 8, 2014 at 5:52 PM

He never said he didn’t know libertarians were for open borders. Those were your words, not his.

If you represent the best of libertarians, it’s no wonder you guys never win elections.

xblade on April 8, 2014 at 5:47 PM

bluegill on April 8, 2014 at 5:49 PM

I see the moron brigade is out in force.

He clearly didn’t know because he branded Paul “a Leftest” for supporting open immigration. That’s how I know he is an idiot and you two morons accolites are even dumber them he is.

jerryofva on April 8, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Romney did not walk-back his position on amnesty during the debates with Obama.

bluegill on April 8, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Yeah, I said tried, not did. The press was having none of it and he realized he had to stick with it. You never heard the words self deport come out of him that was for sure.

Rocks on April 8, 2014 at 5:56 PM

Ot

Bmore

Have you checked on the eaglets lately? Watched the 3rd one hatch yesterday.

Barred on April 8, 2014 at 5:59 PM

And even if he had, those debates came AFTER he secured the nomination as an anti-amnesty candidate, something the person you’re responding to says can’t be done.

No one took that seriously, other than democratic strategists, from Romney. Certainly not the establishment types and big money who were backing him and are all for amnesty. If they did he would not have got their money or support. Even the chairman of the RNC was calling it a horrific to say “self deport” in the summer of 2012. My point about the debates was to show that Romney was never really serious about it.

And here’s a newsflash….the candidate that comes out against amnesty will get the nomination again.

xblade on April 8, 2014 at 5:49 PM

And here’s another newsflash – There won’t be a single candidate that doesn’t support what most people would refer to as amnesty in some form in the 2016 primary. None. You know how I know that? Because there are none now. So unless some complete unknown comes out of the woodwork it isn’t going to happen.

Rocks on April 8, 2014 at 6:03 PM

Barred on April 8, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Yes. Gonna be busy. Three mouths to feed. Lolz!

Bmore on April 8, 2014 at 6:05 PM

When push comes to shove, I think the GOP establishment in the tea-party era regards its first and most important duty to be stopping conservative candidates in the primary.

Exactly.

David Blue on April 8, 2014 at 6:10 PM

he branded Paul “a Leftest”

jerryofva on April 8, 2014 at 5:54 PM

What’s a ‘Leftest’?

Resist We Much on April 8, 2014 at 6:11 PM

Resist We Much on April 8, 2014 at 6:11 PM

Infection?

Bmore on April 8, 2014 at 6:12 PM

What’s a ‘Leftest’?

Resist We Much on April 8, 2014 at 6:11 PM

Left testicle? AKA, a nut.

Pork-Chop on April 8, 2014 at 6:15 PM

Somehow conservatives and libertarians must unite and back one candidate if they want to stop the GOP elite’s choice, does not matter who that is, Bush or Christie. They will clear their side of the field to give their man all their votes, our side always ends up dividing votes and squabbling over who is the best. That is how we end up with: Bush I, Dole, Bush II, McCain and Romney since Reagan.

If the Tea Party wing of the GOP is ever going to gel as a power on par with the money elite of the GOP elite it will have to do the same thing. This is where Palin could really help if Cruz and Paul can’t decide among themselves. She may have to play kingmaker and play it early.

William Eaton on April 8, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Cruuuuuuzzzz! He can win. Conservative must finally nominate a conservative. What a concept!

milemarker2020 on April 8, 2014 at 6:20 PM

And here’s another newsflash – There won’t be a single candidate that doesn’t support what most people would refer to as amnesty in some form in the 2016 primary. None. You know how I know that? Because there are none now. So unless some complete unknown comes out of the woodwork it isn’t going to happen.

Rocks

And if they do, the won’t really be against it, right, lol?

xblade on April 8, 2014 at 6:30 PM

. Bush, now largely unchallenged in the center and center-right, consolidates their support.

Bush will never consolidate the center. The people in the center, like every other remotely sentient life form on this planet, do not want another Bush as President.

thuja on April 8, 2014 at 6:31 PM

If anyone still is deluded that HA is still a conservative website, the contention that jeb bush and chris christie are center-right candidates and this thinly veiled condemnation of Ted Cruz should burst that bubble. allah has always been a grenwich village dwelling hillary supporter and now his real work has just begun. jeb bush will be crushed by hillary clinton but allah will line up behind him and ed will probably dredge up pawlenty (still grasping at the hope of being his press secretary)as our savior against the hildebeast.

peacenprosperity on April 8, 2014 at 6:31 PM

I see the moron brigade is out in force.

jerryofva

Yes, you’re making quite the effort, lol.

He clearly didn’t know because he branded Paul “a Leftest” for supporting open immigration. That’s how I know he is an idiot and you two morons accolites are even dumber them he is.

jerryofva

He is a “leftest” for supporting amnesty, among other things. Most liberaltarians are.

xblade on April 8, 2014 at 6:33 PM

No one took that seriously, other than democratic strategists, from Romney.

Rocks

And yet, people voted for him in the primary instead of going for an openly pro-amnesty candidate. I guess someone took him seriously.

xblade on April 8, 2014 at 6:38 PM

I thought Jeb Clampett was dead.

faraway on April 8, 2014 at 6:46 PM

And if they do, the won’t really be against it, right, lol?

xblade on April 8, 2014 at 6:30 PM

What do you mean by really? Really, as in they are sincerely against amnesty or really as in it’s something they will cave on given the right deal? If you mean the latter than yes, in reality they are against the idea that amnesty is something for which there is no compromise. The best that can be hoped for is we get real security PRIOR to any deal. Some, like Cruz, may actually stick to their guns on that.

Rocks on April 8, 2014 at 6:52 PM

And yet, people voted for him in the primary instead of going for an openly pro-amnesty candidate. I guess someone took him seriously.

xblade on April 8, 2014 at 6:38 PM

I would say they voted for him hoping he’d honor it more than truly believing he would. What choice did they have? No one else was willing to even pretend to be against it.

Rocks on April 8, 2014 at 6:53 PM

I have to wonder what goes on in Jeb’s head about proving himself.

Back in 1994 both GWB and Jeb first ran for governor in TX and FL. GWB won in TX, beating high profile Dem Governor Ann Richards. Jeb lost in FL to high profile Dem Governor Lawton Chiles who had already been a U.S. Senator. Jeb didn’t win the governorship until 1998 after Lawton died.

What prompted Jeb to think he could beat Florida favorite son Walkin’ Lawton? Why is Jeb considering running for President? Is he trying to measure up to dad and big brother? How is Jeb going to feel if he runs and doesn’t even get the nomination? And how is he going to handle the MSM bringing back past problems with his own family?

INC on April 8, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Jeb is a pro life democrat. Anyone claiming he is a right of center republican is completely clueless.

aniptofar on April 8, 2014 at 7:39 PM

If anyone still is deluded that HA is still a conservative website, the contention that jeb bush and chris christie are center-right candidates and this thinly veiled condemnation of Ted Cruz should burst that bubble.

peacenprosperity on April 8, 2014 at 6:31 PM

While there are plenty of conservative posters, there hasn’t been a conservative author since Bryan Preston. That’s Michelle Malkin’s fault. HA shifted away from conservatism long before Malkin sold the site to Salem.

bw222 on April 8, 2014 at 7:47 PM

xblade on April 8, 2014 at 5:47 PM

bluegill on April 8, 2014 at 5:49 PM

I see the moron brigade is out in force.

He clearly didn’t know because he branded Paul “a Leftest” for supporting open immigration. That’s how I know he is an idiot and you two morons accolites are even dumber them he is.

jerryofva on April 8, 2014 at 5:54 PM

…I resent that you callxblade a moron!

KOOLAID2 on April 8, 2014 at 7:55 PM

Why is Jeb considering running for President? Is he trying to measure up to dad and big brother? How is Jeb going to feel if he runs and doesn’t even get the nomination? And how is he going to handle the MSM bringing back past problems with his own family?

INC on April 8, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Lots of questions, INC. I believe Jeb is running for numerous reasons: 1) the patrician Bush family believes common folk need the elites to make decisions for them; 2)he’s supposed to be the “smart Bush” and his dumber brother was President for 8 years; 3) the donor class (people like Sheldon Adelson are pushing Jeb and they think they can control him) 4) the U.S. Chamber of Commerce loves Jeb (amnesty, crony capitalism and Common Core) and 5) people like Andy Card want to be in power in Washington again. Bush probably thinks he can win (the nomination) because the moneyed class and the media will support him (worked for McCain and Romney).

bw222 on April 8, 2014 at 7:57 PM

Then of course the faux Libertarians stayed home because Romney “was just another socialist” revealing a preference for electing socialists over Republicans.
It is time to stop catering to the faux Libertarians and letting them define who is a real Republican.. They aren’t Republicans and they are not on the right. They are little more than market oriented radical syndicalist — sort of Wobblies for the upper middle class and the rich.
Jeb Bush is a bogyman and a diversion. He will have little support in the primaries.
jerryofva on April 8, 2014 at 3:33 PM

jerryofva on April 8, 2014 at 3:44 PM

I like where you’re coming from, jerryofva — enjoyed those two comments of yours.

The “socially liberal, fiscally conservative” line is worn thin. Glib, entertaining, loquacious and usually very big personalities, the Libertarian ID makes the most noise but is and always has been essentially Liberal, Left. But unlike your points, I do think most Republican politicians are that: Liberal, Left, Progressive.

The energy used by them to malign the few Conservatives in Right Politics today does the work of the Left — an is, thereby, Left in action. It’s a shame.

Lourdes on April 8, 2014 at 8:28 PM

And the Chamber of Commerce is led by Leftwing goals, Left/Liberal ideology. Those under their influence among the GOP are also.

My impression is that they need to destroy the idea of the USA as ‘by the rule of law’: do whatever, whenever, if it makes ya’ a buck. And that’s really Libertarian-think, in my experience.

As to Jeb Bush, he IS a pro-life Democrat (someone earlier in comments here wrote that and I agree).

Lourdes on April 8, 2014 at 8:31 PM

My impression is that they need to destroy the idea of the USA as ‘by the rule of law’: do whatever, whenever, if it makes ya’ a buck. And that’s really Libertarian-think, in my experience.

Making profit doesn’t have to involve denouncing the construct of the nation as Constitutionally created and led. But the open-borders, amnesty, Libertarian positions do, in their heart, resent the construct of the nation as such (thus, “open borders, etc.”).

Lourdes on April 8, 2014 at 8:34 PM

I believe Jeb is running for numerous reasons: 1) the patrician Bush family believes common folk need the elites to make decisions for them; 2)he’s supposed to be the “smart Bush” and his dumber brother was President for 8 years; 3) the donor class (people like Sheldon Adelson are pushing Jeb and they think they can control him) 4) the U.S. Chamber of Commerce loves Jeb (amnesty, crony capitalism and Common Core) and 5) people like Andy Card want to be in power in Washington again. Bush probably thinks he can win (the nomination) because the moneyed class and the media will support him (worked for McCain and Romney).

bw222 on April 8, 2014 at 7:57 PM

I don’t agree with the class-perceptions there, that the Bush Family “believes common folk need the elites” and all. I think they’re skilled by, mostly, experience in government and they literally act out on those experiences, are bureaucratically familiarized.

It’s not a compliment, but that’s a difference with people who are “class” activists and demean others for being “lesser” with themselves as “more deserved” (which is how I’d describe the class-activists such as Obama, many on the Left).

However, I agree that once in government, most remain there AS Liberals and seek to close the circle of access to others out of self-preservation. It produces and has produced a bad governmental pool of usery…Andy Card, Holder, Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Kerry, etc. are examples of that, they stay in office by whatever hook-or-crook they can wrangle.

Lourdes on April 8, 2014 at 8:39 PM

You all know I will vote for ANY Republican nominee in the general.

For Jeb Bush, I stay home.

There are 300 million+ (300*.40=120 million reasonably intellligent people) in America. I would vote for any of them (minus Mochelle, Hillary, Chelsea, etc) before I help establish another Dynasty.

WryTrvllr on April 8, 2014 at 8:58 PM

He could be a compromise candidate between the right, which fears that Cruz and Paul really aren’t electable

They are electable if a lot of people vote for them. Duh.

It doesn’t help when “conservative” bloggers keep saying they’re not electable. I believe Cruz could run a great campaign mainly because he wouldn;t have the establishment working for him.

He would need to find some contributors like the Kochs though to fund a major campaign push and a willing ground army.

Vince on April 8, 2014 at 9:48 PM

If you want to stop Jeb, you need to give them a better centrist alternative.

No thanks.

And please, let’s remove any remaining official references to ‘Hot Air’ as ‘conservative’, shall we? lol

Midas on April 8, 2014 at 10:28 PM

bw222 on April 8, 2014 at 7:57 PM

Lourdes on April 8, 2014 at 8:39 PM

A few weeks ago Barbara Bush had a comment on Michelle’s food agenda, “Someone’s got to tell these people what to eat.”

I’m not saying the entire family is that way, but what kind of a mindset do you have to say something like this? Barbara and GHWB are from wealthy northeastern families, and their life experience is outside the ken of most Americans.

INC on April 8, 2014 at 10:33 PM

” The only X factor in all this is Scott Walker, who’s prominent enough after his big fight with the unions to find the sort of niche that’ll elude Jindal. ”

Hm. What about Palin, Perry or Pence?

cs89 on April 8, 2014 at 11:08 PM

The GOP candidate will be whoever the establishment Ayatollahs say it is.

There are too many conservative slaves out there that will vote for a liberal republican simply because he’s the “lesser of two evils”. The GOP never nominates anyone to the right because they don’t have to. They can always nominate leftward and then tell the conservative slaves on the plantation … “There’s your choice … vote for our guy or the Socialist Democrat will destroy your lives.”

And the Conservatives swallow it hook, line, and sinker.

As a result – we have more than $17 Trillion in debt piled up from this kind of voting behavior.

Only way you break that cycle – is to vote for another party or stay home when they nominate a liberal.

HondaV65 on April 9, 2014 at 5:26 AM

As a result – we have more than $17 Trillion in debt piled up from this kind of voting behavior.
Only way you break that cycle – is to vote for another party or stay home when they nominate a liberal.
HondaV65 on April 9, 2014 at 5:26 AM

The Kristol Neocons don’t care what we think. They believe replacing conservatives with Illegal aliens is the way to go.

Brock Robamney on April 9, 2014 at 5:50 AM

We went into battle against ObamaCare in 2012 with the guy who signed a law that paved the way for ObamaCare. We faced an electorate that was war-weary after five years of Iraq in 2008 with the most hawkish possible candidate we could find. Never, ever underestimate the establishment’s ability to sell a bad candidate to the masses of Republican primary voters who don’t pay much attention to politics and are eager for a familiar, theoretically “electable” choice.

Once again, it is the way that the primary system is set up wherein the more liberal states with open primaries which allow Democrats to pick our nominees giving, in many cases, Democrats a greater say in the process than Republicans. Until this system is changed, we will continue to nominate “electable, moderate” losers.

The states should vote their Republican primaries in the order of percentage total voted for the Republican in the previous Presidential Election going from the greatest percentage to the least percentage. The states which will vote most dependably for the party should have the earliest and best say in who the party nominates. Anything else is insanity and/or archaic nonsense.

Theophile on April 9, 2014 at 6:13 AM

Any state that has open primaries better change to closed primaries and fast. Otherwise, you can guarentee dems/libs will be lining up to get Jeb Bush voted in as the nominee. They know that if he is the nominee he will be destroyed. LIV still think that Bush caused unemployment to skyrocket and the economy to crumble even though it didn’t happen until a year after the dems took control of both houses.

DethMetalCookieMonst on April 9, 2014 at 7:24 AM

As an ‘act of love,’ I will not be supporting Jeb.

racquetballer on April 9, 2014 at 8:23 AM

What’s a ‘Leftest’?

Resist We Much on April 8, 2014 at 6:11 PM

Left, lefter, leftest.

racquetballer on April 9, 2014 at 8:36 AM

My impression is that they need to destroy the idea of the USA as ‘by the rule of law’: do whatever, whenever, if it makes ya’ a buck. And that’s really Libertarian-think, in my experience.

Making profit doesn’t have to involve denouncing the construct of the nation as Constitutionally created and led. But the open-borders, amnesty, Libertarian positions do, in their heart, resent the construct of the nation as such (thus, “open borders, etc.”).

Lourdes on April 8, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Broad brushes paint wide swaths. As a libertarian, I am a strong defender of the rule of law and don’t want the country destroyed in order for anyone to make a profit. Well, unless the country moves so totally in the direction of making a profit impossible or a crime. At that point, it would need to be destroyed…just like the Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea, etc. Hell, at this point, I bet that you’d find a sizable percentage of the French population, who are nearing that point because the government has become so regulated, bureaucratic, and oppressive. In addition to what it has done to its economy, the French government criminally penalises speech. Ask Brigitte Bardot (criticising Islam’s treatment of animals…specifically, the practise of halal) or former Christian Dior designer John Galliano, who was convicted after a drunken, anti-semitic rant. Whether you agree or disagree with either or both, criminalisation of speech is a crime against humanity and the individual.

Resist We Much on April 9, 2014 at 9:40 AM

Damon (the Missing) Linkner from the ultra-Liberal The Week chimes in – The GOP realizes Jeb is its only option:

http://theweek.com/article/index/259530/republicans-are-realizing-that-jeb-bush-is-their-only-option-in-2016

Don’t you just love how the left tries (and succeeds at) picking our candidates?

bw222 on April 9, 2014 at 10:09 AM

A few weeks ago Barbara Bush had a comment on Michelle’s food agenda, “Someone’s got to tell these people what to eat.”

INC on April 8, 2014 at 10:33 PM

Ah, Barbara Bush, the 85 year old woman with the 125 year old face. Old Lady Bush should take the advice she gave Sarah Palin – stay home and shut up.

bw222 on April 9, 2014 at 10:14 AM

Here’s my analysis. People who want to return to the Clinton era will be disappointed because we won’t have a Speaker and House like Gingrich, et al. I don’t think Cruz has any intention of running, as long as there is a chance Republicans could take over the Senate. He needs to stay where he is. Rubio’s only chance for the Presidency is if he is nominated as V.P., which I’m sure has been discussed with the Establishment.

Conservatives need to concentrate on their local State races as well as the Congress and Senate primaries. Turning the states is the only way to fight the Establishment Feds.

I do think that Jeb Bush is thinking of running because he has started the vetting process in order to get it out in the open. The next issue will be Common Core.

I would not write off Rand Paul.

lea on April 9, 2014 at 10:50 AM

Damon (the Missing) Linkner from the ultra-Liberal The Week chimes in – The GOP realizes Jeb is its only option
bw222 on April 9, 2014

He states in the article how the Republican primary in 2012 was a “freak show”. The Republican freak show in my mind is McCain, Romney, and now Jeb Bush. I won’t vote for anymore freaks.

lea on April 9, 2014 at 10:55 AM

The only thing worse that a Bush like candidate winning the nomination is actually winning the election as well. That would mean 4-8 years of neostatist psuedo-republican mish-mash. Call it Obama lite if you will. Far more damaging to this nation than a full on socialist like Obama or Clinton.

paulsur on April 9, 2014 at 10:57 AM

Jeb Bush does not support the rule of law for illegal immigrants, yet isn’t the definition of a Republic, the rule of law? Isn’t the definition of a Democracy, the majority rules? The Bush’s are in the wrong party.

lea on April 9, 2014 at 10:58 AM

What’s a ‘Leftest’?
Resist We Much on April 8, 2014 at 6:11 PM

An indicator of the amount of liberalism a politician possesses

Brock Robamney on April 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM

I would not write off Rand Paul.

lea on April 9, 2014 at 10:50 AM

Yes, for sure, Rand has a place in The Bush Family’s plans. That was decided way back in 2010 before he ever ran for Senate. And Pops sealed it with his deals with Romney in 2012. Rand is now Rove’s best friend, dontcha’ know.

Keep an eye on just how Rand is used by the Bushes. Probably Jeb/Rand 2016.

No thanks.

hrh40 on April 9, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Keep an eye on just how Rand is used by the Bushes. Probably Jeb/Rand 2016.

No thanks.

hrh40 on April 9, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Hmmm. Well, he hides it well. I know Rand Paul is close to Mitch McConnell, so I will keep your comments in mind.

lea on April 9, 2014 at 2:00 PM

I have said for a long time that in 2000, the GOP nominated the wrong Bush son.

Jeb was always much more conservative than GW.

But years later, I still cannot fathom or support another Bush presidency.

I am glad to see Kristol saying this.

RUexperienced on April 9, 2014 at 7:19 PM

If Kristol says Jeb Bush will not be the nominee, Jeb Bush will not be the nominee. Kristol is the head of the political Straussians, having inherited the mantle from his father Irvin.

Kristol just named who he finds acceptable, and his number one choice in the video was Mike Pence. You therefore ought to be very suspicious of Mike Pence and what he agreed to behind closed doors with them. I do not care if you think Mike Pence is a good guy who was a good conservative. Straussians are soft totalitarians, and they will not support anyone who is not on board with their agenda.

Observation Post on April 10, 2014 at 12:20 AM

Making profit doesn’t have to involve denouncing the construct of the nation as Constitutionally created and led. But the open-borders, amnesty, Libertarian positions do, in their heart, resent the construct of the nation as such (thus, “open borders, etc.”).

The anarchist libertarians are not politically significant. The Straussians are anti-Westphalian system, and they are politically significant – more than significant. They want to take the world back to a time before the Renaissance and Enlightenment. The Straussians were formed by ideas outside of the Anglosphere, and these psychotics are willing to work over many generations for their ultimate vision of breaking the world down into little “blood-and-soil” ethnic or religion-based city-states and territories (preferably non-Christian). Though it may be hard for you to imagine today, your grandchildren may well one day live in a different country from you without ever having moved. The Republican Party minus the Tea Party politicians follows their ideas because politicians are not capable of producing big ideas and grand strategy, and the Straussians are. The Straussians get away with it because they do not tell the truth about their core beliefs. They know if their ideas were widely known, they would literally be impaled on pitchforks.

Observation Post on April 10, 2014 at 12:51 AM

Jeb is the choice of the neocons and Karl Rove it’s a done deal, especially with the Bridgetender out of the picture

No, see my other comment above. Kristol is the decider, and he has already decided it will be Mike Pence, and as first alternate, Scott Walker. Kelly Ayotte will be the VP pick. She is an imbecile, very pliable, so she is an ideal plant in the White House. Plus, her face will allow Republicans to fake being pro-women to the general public.

Unless Rand Paul has enough popular support on the Right to overcome Kristol’s picks, it will be Pence-Ayotte.

Observation Post on April 10, 2014 at 1:01 AM

Yes, for sure, Rand has a place in The Bush Family’s plans. That was decided way back in 2010 before he ever ran for Senate. And Pops sealed it with his deals with Romney in 2012. Rand is now Rove’s best friend, dontcha’ know.

Keep an eye on just how Rand is used by the Bushes. Probably Jeb/Rand 2016.

No thanks.

hrh40 on April 9, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Congratulations, you out tin-foiled the circa 2008 Paulbots. I didn’t think that was possible.

midgeorgian on April 10, 2014 at 3:08 PM

Bill Kristol said Ted Cruz would be a better candidate then Jeb? Really?

MWC_RS on April 28, 2014 at 10:39 PM

If Kristol says Jeb Bush will not be the nominee, Jeb Bush will not be the nominee. Kristol is the head of the political Straussians, having inherited the mantle from his father Irvin.

Kristol just named who he finds acceptable, and his number one choice in the video was Mike Pence. You therefore ought to be very suspicious of Mike Pence and what he agreed to behind closed doors with them. I do not care if you think Mike Pence is a good guy who was a good conservative. Straussians are soft totalitarians, and they will not support anyone who is not on board with their agenda.

Observation Post on April 10, 2014 at 12:20 AM

He also included Cruz on his list.

Honest to goodness there is a lot of Paulbot crazy on this thread.

MWC_RS on April 28, 2014 at 10:39 PM

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