Time: Hank Aaron would’ve faced more racism today because Twitter

posted at 9:21 pm on April 7, 2014 by Mary Katharine Ham

For a moment I thought, “Well, he must mean Aaron would have faced more racism if the racists of the mid-century had had Twitter and other social media tools at their disposal.” That would make more sense. There was a larger segment of the population that had a problem with black people, and they would have been given quicker, more public access to Aaron to make their voices heard. But that’s not what he means.

Nope, here’s the last paragraph:

As he pursued Babe Ruth’s historic home-run record, bigots, racists and haters chased him. Only he can know how painful that ordeal must have been. Still, he is lucky it didn’t happen today.

Among other silly things, Jon Friedman alleges, “Aaron got off easy four decades ago, long before social media dominated every facet of our lives.”

I’m betting Aaron probably doesn’t agree he “got off easy.” The writer also concludes the famously rather reticent Aaron would not have thrived on Twitter:

He likely would have flopped on Twitter. Aaron is by his nature an articulate and measured speaker, but articulate and measured speakers are not exactly revered in social media. Aaron’s dignity and integrity would have gone unappreciated on Twitter.

Yes, keep him away from Twitter. Better for him to live to see the smart, dignified way his legacy is treated in a national newsweekly.

In this construction, America has progressed not at all on race since 1974. This is, in a word, insane.

There are plenty of measures that refute this, including the elections of 2008 and 2012, but let me just leave this here:

PRINCETON, NJ — Continuing to represent one of the largest shifts of public opinion in Gallup history, 87% of Americans now favor marriage between blacks and whites, up from 4% in 1958.

If you’d like to know what Aaron actually did face in a world without Twitter (and a good, thorough portrait of a sometimes prickly sports hero), instead of this nonsense, “The Last Hero” is a great read.

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Most racists on twitter that I have seen are of the left and/or black.

jukin3 on April 7, 2014 at 9:25 PM

My oldest brother’s favorite player…

OmahaConservative on April 7, 2014 at 9:25 PM

Twittering TwitProgTards Tweeting Stupid Tweets!!

canopfor on April 7, 2014 at 9:28 PM

I call b.s.

Cindy Munford on April 7, 2014 at 9:29 PM

Sticks and stones…..

these race mongers just kill me.

CW on April 7, 2014 at 9:29 PM

He likely would have flopped on Twitter. Aaron is by his nature an articulate and measured speaker, but articulate and measured speakers are not exactly revered in social media. Aaron’s dignity and integrity would have gone unappreciated on Twitter.
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WishCasting/Projection OverLoads!!

canopfor on April 7, 2014 at 9:30 PM

…you’re talking “TIME” here!…does anybody believe anything they read…from TIME that isn’t slanted?

KOOLAID2 on April 7, 2014 at 9:32 PM

Picture says it all….

Welcome to the new America….

Electrongod on April 7, 2014 at 9:33 PM

Time: Hank Aaron would’ve faced more racism today because Twitter

Wow, this is something you would normally associate with Salon/Slate/Mother Jones/Rolling Stone…

Good Job Time!!!!

DIAF. All of you.

BigWyo on April 7, 2014 at 9:34 PM

Comparing today’s mores with yesterday’s mores is a useless exercise?

Herb on April 7, 2014 at 9:34 PM

I still consider Henry Aaron to be the all time Home Run King, because Barry Bonds CHEATED.

Does that make me a RAAAAACIST!?

Rhetorical question: of course it does!

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 9:34 PM

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Herb on April 7, 2014 at 9:35 PM

In this construction, America has progressed not at all on race since 1974. This is, in a word, insane.

There are plenty of measures that refute this, including the elections of 2008 and 2012, but let me just leave this here:

Mary Katharine Ham, is that a joke?

Nearly 100% of blacks voted for one candidate in 2008 and 2012 likely because of skin color. You call that progress?

Affirmative action candidate Barack Obama and his supporters encouraged racism against whites, while suggesting that opposition to Obama must be based on racial prejudice.

Obama would never have gotten a second look if he had been a white man and had the same unimpressive credentials and experience.

I hardly consider a presidential campaign built around skin color and a cult of personality to be a sign of progress.

bluegill on April 7, 2014 at 9:36 PM

NIce piece, MKH.

Midas on April 7, 2014 at 9:38 PM

As long as our media keeps stirring the pot, it’s going to get worse. That’s the problem.

Corporal Tunnel on April 7, 2014 at 9:39 PM

Well, not all black voters who went for Obama did so based on skin color, but it was clearly a driving factor. It’s an embarrassment and shows an obsession with skin color among these people. Absolutely pathetic.

bluegill on April 7, 2014 at 9:43 PM

Straw man, paging straw man.

neyney on April 7, 2014 at 9:43 PM

Riiight, ‘cuz, like, um, ya know, Jay-Z faces tremendous racism – more so than, say, Sammy Davis, Jr ‘cuz Twitter or something.

OTOH, Twitter, etc, has helped the black supremacist-Five Percent Nation ‘little bit’ adherent, Jay-Z, become a billionaire and man feted as royalty around the world.

Resist We Much on April 7, 2014 at 9:44 PM

Well, not all black voters who went for Obama did so based on skin color, but it was clearly a driving factor. It’s an embarrassment and shows an obsession with skin color among these people. Absolutely pathetic.

bluegill on April 7, 2014 at 9:43 PM

It’s either black racism or extreme stupidity on their part that is the cause of Obama continuing to have 90%+ support of blacks.

There is no third possibility.

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 9:45 PM

PRINCETON, NJ — Continuing to represent one of the largest shifts of public opinion in Gallup history, 87% of Americans now favor marriage between blacks and whites, up from 4% in 1958.

OT – on this quote

I need to educate the millennials for a sec.

Of course those views in ’58 are antiquated and wrong but just to keep it all clear -
Many Whites and Blacks were against mixed marriages. As someone with childhood memories of when those views could still , rarely, be found, believe me, they were not limited to white people. I have personal experience in this regard.

So when the libs and 1/2lib rino SSM advocates bring up the mixed marriage nonsense as if it was all jim crow KKK Bubbas in overalls stuff – That’s just their ignant BS. Plenty of Black people were against mixing also.

BoxHead1 on April 7, 2014 at 9:45 PM

PRINCETON, NJ — Continuing to represent one of the largest shifts of public opinion in Gallup history, 87% of Americans now favor marriage between blacks and whites, up from 4% in 1958.

whaaaaat?? there are still 13% of people who don’t support it?? who the heck are these people??! i seriously would never have guessed the number was that high.

Sachiko on April 7, 2014 at 9:46 PM

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 9:34 PM

Yer racist because you said Barry Bonds cheated. (He did).

Mcqwire cheated.
Giambi cheated.
Sosa cheated (yer a racist and xenophobe).

And just to head off any of the ‘Steroids really didn’t help’ crowd.

Why did they do it then????

See any 60 home run players out there right now???

BigWyo on April 7, 2014 at 9:49 PM

whaaaaat?? there are still 13% of people who don’t support it?? who the heck are these people??! i seriously would never have guessed the number was that high.

Sachiko on April 7, 2014 at 9:46 PM

While I am not against the idea of marrying a black woman per se, I simply do not find very many of them attractive at all. Is that racist? I don’t think so. I don’t find a lot of white women attractive either…

Natalie Portman or Michelle Obama. Yeah, not a contest. Even if you turned back the clock and put her back in her early 30′s…

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 9:50 PM

OT – on this quote

I need to educate the millennials for a sec.

Of course those views in ’58 are antiquated and wrong but just to keep it all clear -
Many Whites and Blacks were against mixed marriages. As someone with childhood memories of when those views could still , rarely, be found, believe me, they were not limited to white people. I have personal experience in this regard.

So when the libs and 1/2lib rino SSM advocates bring up the mixed marriage nonsense as if it was all jim crow KKK Bubbas in overalls stuff – That’s just their ignant BS. Plenty of Black people were against mixing also.

BoxHead1 on April 7, 2014 at 9:45 PM

goodness, i can’t possibly imagine any reason why black people in the 1950s would have any hesitation about marrying white people!

Sachiko on April 7, 2014 at 9:50 PM

Living victims of racism aren’t enough so lets create hypothetical dead ones with a time machine.

wolly4321 on April 7, 2014 at 9:51 PM

While I am not against the idea of marrying a black woman per se, I simply do not find very many of them attractive at all. Is that racist? I don’t think so. I don’t find a lot of white women attractive either…

Natalie Portman or Michelle Obama. Yeah, not a contest. Even if you turned back the clock and put her back in her early 30′s…

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 9:50 PM

oh really? what is it about us that makes us so unattractive?? i want to know.

because i think people of all races are equally attractive. it’s weird to me that people think that certain races are less attractive than others.

Sachiko on April 7, 2014 at 9:51 PM

It’s either black racism or extreme stupidity on their part that is the cause of Obama continuing to have 90%+ support of blacks.

There is no third possibility.

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 9:45 PM

Whoa!! Just hold on there. Black Racism??

C’mon now. Everyone knows there’s no such thing.

Just ask Spike Lee.

BigWyo on April 7, 2014 at 9:54 PM

Aaron would’ve faced more racism today because Twitter

You’re right. The Dem Congress that voted against Civil Rights would have been all over Twitter.

And the Republican Lincoln would have faced mean words on Twitter also.

faraway on April 7, 2014 at 9:54 PM

goodness, i can’t possibly imagine any reason why black people in the 1950s would have any hesitation about marrying white people!

Sachiko on April 7, 2014 at 9:50 PM

I personally experienced ,devades after the 50s, plenty of anti White bigotry from Black people due to my relationships so… Don’t preach to me if that’s what you are doing.

BoxHead1 on April 7, 2014 at 9:55 PM

oh really? what is it about us that makes us so unattractive?? i want to know.

because i think people of all races are equally attractive. it’s weird to me that people think that certain races are less attractive than others.

Sachiko on April 7, 2014 at 9:51 PM

I find Halle Berry very attractive. Same for Vanessa Williams, Beyonce, and so forth. I’m not saying there are black women I am not attracted to. Have I ever met one in real life? Not one.

And yes, I have dated inter-racially in the past. I dated a very lovely Filipino girl in high school. The reason it didn’t go as far as I would have liked? Her parents, both DOCTORS mind you, made it very clear to me that they didn’t want their daughter marrying a white guy…

So it goes both ways, but RAAAAACISM! is only ever assumed when it’s the WHITE PERSON isn’t it?

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 9:55 PM

In this construction (context ?), America has progressed not at all on race since 1974. This is, in a word, insane.

Mary Katharine Ham on April 7, 2014 at 9:21 pm

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It’s not “insane”, Mary . . . . . it’s calculated and deliberate “political gamesmanship”, AKA a “con job”.

I’ve said in previous threads at hotair.com that the Rev & Dr Martin Luther King Jr was assassinated by leftists for the intentional purpose of hijacking the ‘Civil Rights’ movement, and using it (abusing, actually) to promote their political ideology. It has unfortunately worked rather well, to their advantage … so they don’t dare openly agree (concede, actually) in any way that there’s been any real success in “the war on white bigotry”, ’cause the moment they do, they can’t use it any more.

I believe “white guilt” has been their most successful weapon for 35+ years now, and they ain’t gonna let go of it, until it is forcibly taken from them.

listens2glenn on April 7, 2014 at 9:55 PM

I have two words for Time… Micheal Jordan…

oscarwilde on April 7, 2014 at 9:56 PM

This was up in the Headlines earlier today. As an example of modern-day racism, the author referred to the public’s reaction to Richard Sherman’s rant following the NFC championship. Really? If I remember correctly, there was a lot of talk about Sherman being a jerk, but nothing about his race.

The left, the democrat party, the liberal media, and this Obama regime continue to stir up racial tension. They are ripping this country apart – for political purposes.

TarheelBen on April 7, 2014 at 9:57 PM

Whoa!! Just hold on there. Black Racism??

C’mon now. Everyone knows there’s no such thing.

Just ask Spike Lee.

BigWyo on April 7, 2014 at 9:54 PM

Blacks are FAR more racist these days than whites.

For one thing, whites have had racism literally BEAT out of them over the last 40 years. Does it still exist? Sure, but its’ dying.

Blacks, on the other hand, have been fed a line of BULL about their own superiority, and that whites have victimized them for all time, continuing to this day when institutionalized racism HAS BEEN DEAD FOR HALF A CENTURY.

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 9:58 PM

whaaaaat?? there are still 13% of people who don’t support it?? who the heck are these people??! i seriously would never have guessed the number was that high.

Sachiko on April 7, 2014 at 9:46 PM

I suspect that a good many of the 13% are blacks, who oppose interracial marriage, especially black men marrying white women. While I was still quite young and only reading about the case in British papers, I recall that there was some discussion about this during the OJ Simpson trial. While many African-Americans acknowledged that OJ hadn’t really done much for their community, they defended him profusely and, for some, this was made easier given the fact that his dead ex-wife was white.

I don’t know. Perhaps, this sentiment isn’t as strong as it once was in the black community, but I do know that many black women resented black men marrying ‘outside of their race.’ Also, recall the Alabama state representative who recently said that one of the main reasons that he hates Clarence Thomas is because he is married to a white woman.

Resist We Much on April 7, 2014 at 9:59 PM

Just out of college (and service), I worked for MacGregor Sporting Goods in the summer of 1973. MacGregor was a major manufacturer of baseball gloves back then. Hank Aaron, Pete Rose and Don Sutton were a few star players who were on our advisory staff and used MacGregor gloves.

We had a major promotion featuring “Hank Aaron 714″ gloves in sporting goods stores. As a sub promotion, Aaron agreed to meet with a group of kids after one game in each of the National League cities who won sweepstakes in sporting goods stores. Aaron reneged on the deal and ended up waving to the kids who won the sweepstakes (and tickets) from his position in the outfield.

bw222 on April 7, 2014 at 9:59 PM

I have two words for Time… Micheal Jordan…

oscarwilde on April 7, 2014 at 9:56 PM

Shh… You aren’t supposed to point that out… that it was a bunch of white people who made Jordan rich because we admired his excellence, bought his overpriced shoes, etc…

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 9:59 PM

Rochester from the Jack Benny Show would have been harassed a lot more with laser pointers too, if there were laser pointers back then. Which there weren’t. So theres that.. He dodged a bullet there.

Mimzey on April 7, 2014 at 9:59 PM

The most common racist epithet in the Twitter era is “white boy”.

There are pervasive, legally and socially enforced rules stigmatizing and disadvantaging by race. They are directed to the detriment of whites.

Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white.

David Blue on April 7, 2014 at 10:00 PM

Picture says it all….

Welcome to the new America….

Electrongod on April 7, 2014 at 9:33 PM

That picture is from a Hank Aaron baseball card. But if you actually do an image search for Hank’s cards thru the years, he’s one of those dudes who never took a really good picture. That’s not a racist statement, just an observation from a photographer. He has the exact same expression each and every year, and that’s about it. BTW when you do the search one of the results is a baseball card for Thurman Monson. Racism?

Here’s a White Guy who didn’t take a very good baseball card picture either

Del Dolemonte on April 7, 2014 at 10:01 PM

My thinking is Hank would do fine. Pretty much in any environment. HeII of a ballplayer. Great swinger.

Bmore on April 7, 2014 at 10:02 PM

I don’t know. Perhaps, this sentiment isn’t as strong as it once was in the black community, but I do know that many black women resented black men marrying ‘outside of their race.’ Also, recall the Alabama state representative who recently said that one of the main reasons that he hates Clarence Thomas is because he is married to a white woman.

Resist We Much on April 7, 2014 at 9:59 PM

This. Black women are VERY hostile to the idea of black men preferring white women to them.

You don’t see nearly as many white men marrying black women as you see black men with white women.

Why is that?

Could it be the fault of (and this is VERY un PC to suggest!) black women themselves? Of course not, it’s RAAAAACISM! So then, are the black men who seem to not find black women attractive enough to desire RAAAAACIST? Or is that exclusive to whites only?

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 10:03 PM

Moses would have faced more racism during Exodus as well. There’s that.

faraway on April 7, 2014 at 10:04 PM

Continuing to represent one of the largest shifts of public opinion in Gallup history, 87% of Americans now favor marriage between blacks and whites, up from 4% in 1958.

Too bad Michael Jackson didn’t live to see this day.
Now that marriage is being redefined into oblivion, & now that a majority favor blacks marrying whites, he could have legally married himself.

itsnotaboutme on April 7, 2014 at 10:05 PM

Too bad Michael Jackson didn’t live to see this day.
Now that marriage is being redefined into oblivion, & now that a majority favor blacks marrying whites, he could have legally married himself.

itsnotaboutme on April 7, 2014 at 10:05 PM

Michael Jackson proved that a poor, black boy could die as a rich, white woman. :-)

Resist We Much on April 7, 2014 at 10:07 PM

Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white.
David Blue on April 7, 2014 at 10:00 PM

Yep.

bluegill on April 7, 2014 at 10:07 PM

Resist We Much on April 7, 2014 at 9:59 PM

I have read several articles about the plight of educated, professional black women. There are far more college-educated professional black women than educated, professional black men. Many black men at their level prefer white women.

Professional black women often remain unmarried or end up marrying a black man who is less educated than they are.

bw222 on April 7, 2014 at 10:07 PM

Moses would have faced more racism during Exodus as well. There’s that.

faraway on April 7, 2014 at 10:04 PM

Moses married a “Cushite” woman, & his siblings did not approve.

itsnotaboutme on April 7, 2014 at 10:09 PM

I personally experienced ,devades after the 50s, plenty of anti White bigotry from Black people due to my relationships so… Don’t preach to me if that’s what you are doing.

BoxHead1 on April 7, 2014 at 9:55 PM

i’m talking about during the 50′s, not after. obviously black people in that time period had good reason to not be comfortable with the idea of marrying white people.

I find Halle Berry very attractive. Same for Vanessa Williams, Beyonce, and so forth. I’m not saying there are black women I am not attracted to. Have I ever met one in real life? Not one.

And yes, I have dated inter-racially in the past. I dated a very lovely Filipino girl in high school. The reason it didn’t go as far as I would have liked? Her parents, both DOCTORS mind you, made it very clear to me that they didn’t want their daughter marrying a white guy…

So it goes both ways, but RAAAAACISM! is only ever assumed when it’s the WHITE PERSON isn’t it?

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 9:55 PM

i didn’t assume anything. you implied that you found black women unattractive. i wondered why so many people today were uncomfortable with interracial marriages and you were the one who felt the need to make a comment about black women being unattractive. i never even said you were white. i don’t care what race anyone is- i hate when anyone talks about certain races not being attractive or being more attractive, it’s one of my biggest pet peeves. so i’m saying, hopefully you will meet women of all races whom you find attractive, that’s all i’m saying.

Sachiko on April 7, 2014 at 10:14 PM

Moses married a “Cushite” woman, & his siblings did not approve.

itsnotaboutme on April 7, 2014 at 10:09 PM

The bigger the Cushite
The sweeter the Pushite

vlad martel on April 7, 2014 at 10:17 PM

One day I was VERY pregnant with Al, I stopped by the ‘rents house for a visit. I was waiting outside for my then-husband when one of the neighbor girls came out to ‘chat’ with me. At the time,we were both in our early 20′s. She was black Her interrogation went something like this:
Her:When are you due?
Me:March 31st.
her: What are you having?
Me: A boy.
Her: Do you know who the baby daddy is?(Yes-she really asked that.)
me(kinda stunned by that question):Um…my husband.
Her:Is your husband black?
Me: No-he’s a white guy.
Her: YOU RACIST!
She actually called me a racist because me-a white woman-had the audacity to fall in love with a white man.
The NERVE of me. ///

annoyinglittletwerp on April 7, 2014 at 10:18 PM

i didn’t assume anything. you implied that you found black women unattractive. i wondered why so many people today were uncomfortable with interracial marriages and you were the one who felt the need to make a comment about black women being unattractive. i never even said you were white. i don’t care what race anyone is- i hate when anyone talks about certain races not being attractive or being more attractive, it’s one of my biggest pet peeves. so i’m saying, hopefully you will meet women of all races whom you find attractive, that’s all i’m saying.

Sachiko on April 7, 2014 at 10:14 PM

I find attractive women attractive. It’s a combination of physical attractiveness (anyone who says it isn’t is lying) as well as attractiveness of personality (no one wants to marry an over demanding impossible to satisfy shrew). Skin color in and of itself has nothing to do with it.

Moochelle “The Scowl” Obama pretty much is ICONIC of what I would consider an unattractive woman, her blackness actually has nothing to do with it.

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 10:18 PM

Continuing to represent one of the largest shifts of public opinion in Gallup history, 87% of Americans now favor marriage between blacks and whites, up from 4% in 1958.

Too bad Michael Jackson didn’t live to see this day.
Now that marriage is being redefined into oblivion, & now that a majority favor blacks marrying whites, he could have legally married himself.

itsnotaboutme on April 7, 2014 at 10:05 PM

Michael Jackson proved that a poor, black boy could die as a rich, white woman. :-)

Resist We Much on April 7, 2014 at 10:07 PM

Hmmm…Trying to remember the chorus from Black Or White.
I think it went like this:

Well I think I’m a guy
But I don’t know if I’m black or white…

itsnotaboutme on April 7, 2014 at 10:19 PM

Blacks are FAR more racist these days than whites.
For one thing, whites have had racism literally BEAT out of them over the last 40 years. Does it still exist? Sure, but its’ dying.
Blacks, on the other hand, have been fed a line of BULL about their own superiority, and that whites have victimized them for all time, continuing to this day when institutionalized racism HAS BEEN DEAD FOR HALF A CENTURY.
ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 9:58 PM

This is so true.

Unfortunately, liberals and others like to push the lie that “only whites can be racist.” Democrats thrive on white guilt.

I’m sick of the white guilt, and I think it’s time that more people started regularly calling out the anti-white racism.

Reminds me of this exchange when CNN’s Don Lemon mocked a guest for discussing white guilt:
http://youtu.be/QOgQrM6GwC8

Sadly, I don’t have much faith that this blog will call out the racial double standard:
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/08/26/should-conservatives-resist-the-race-tu-quoque/

bluegill on April 7, 2014 at 10:20 PM

See any 60 home run players out there right now???

BigWyo on April 7, 2014 at 9:49 PM

If Miguel Cabrera played in one of those little band-boxes instead of Comerica National Park he probably could do it.

Flange on April 7, 2014 at 10:21 PM

MKH:

Next week in Time Magazine: “Thomas Jefferson never could have written The Declaration of Independence if there was Twitter in the late 18th Century.

@SallyHemmings would have sunk him…

Bobnox

bobnox on April 7, 2014 at 10:21 PM

i hate when anyone talks about certain races not being attractive or being more attractive, it’s one of my biggest pet peeves. so i’m saying, hopefully you will meet women of all races whom you find attractive, that’s all i’m saying.
Sachiko on April 7, 2014 at 10:14 PM

Why do you hate it? Can’t people have preferences? How does it affect you if someone else tends to be primarily attracted to certain kinds of people?

bluegill on April 7, 2014 at 10:24 PM

Aaron once famously replied to a critic who found fault with the fact the future Hall-of-Famer did not hold his bat with the label up (makes it more likely a wooden bat would crack, you see) by saying “I don’t go up there (to the batter’s box) to read.”

This advice also works well if applied to Time “magazine.”

Marxism is for dummies on April 7, 2014 at 10:25 PM

If Miguel Cabrera played in one of those little band-boxes instead of Comerica National Park he probably could do it.

Flange on April 7, 2014 at 10:21 PM

Babe Ruth hit his 60 when Yankee Stadium had these monstrous dimensions:

Left Field Line: 285′
Straightaway Left: 395′
Left Center: 460′
Center: 520′
Right Center: 425′
Straightaway Right: 350′
Right Field Line: 295′

Now granted, Yankee Stadium did allow cheap home runs down the lines, (as it does today) but most power hitters aren’t stroking them straight down the lines constantly…

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 10:30 PM

Sachiko on April 7, 2014 at 10:14 PM

You think the taboo in the 50s only went one way. Have you talked to some old folks?

BoxHead1 on April 7, 2014 at 10:34 PM

If you’d like to know what Aaron actually did face in a world without Twitter (and a good, thorough portrait of a sometimes prickly sports hero), instead of this nonsense, “The Last Hero” is a great read.

Why deify someone because they could hit a ball?

bluegill on April 7, 2014 at 10:37 PM

Of course, he would have agreed with blacks that say there is now more racism in black people than in white people, right?

More Americans View Blacks As Racist Than Whites, Hispanics

Among black Americans, 31% think most blacks are racist, while 24% consider most whites racist and 15% view most Hispanics that way.

slickwillie2001 on April 7, 2014 at 10:38 PM

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 10:30 PM

I think those are the dimensions of the old Polo Grounds, a real quick search of the old Yankee Stadium shows…
Left Field 318′
Left Center 399′
Center 408′
Right Center 385′
Right Field 314′
The Yank’s had stopped playing at the Polo Grounds after the 1922 season, Ruth’s 60 came in 1927. But my comment was directed to no one hitting 60 now. Comerica has…
Left-field fence, 345 feet
Left-field power alley, 370 feet
Center field, 420 feet
Right-field power alley, 365 feet
Right-field fence, 330 feet

Flange on April 7, 2014 at 10:43 PM

The straw men are now zombies.

SouthernGent on April 7, 2014 at 10:46 PM

I see they are trying to move this thread down column as quick as they can – lol :)

Anyway, Sach, I’m attracted to black women. So take that, you H8ters!

BoxHead1 on April 7, 2014 at 10:47 PM

If Miguel Cabrera played in one of those little band-boxes instead of Comerica National Park he probably could do it.

Flange on April 7, 2014 at 10:21 PM

The Comerica Park playing field is actually smaller than it was when it opened in 2000 with the auxiliary fence in left field.

If the Tigers were smart, they would have built a team to fit Comerica’s original dimensions (good pitching and fast, high average position players). Instead, they signed Juan Gonzalez for the 2000 season.

bw222 on April 7, 2014 at 10:47 PM

Instead, they signed Juan Gonzalez for the 2000 season.

bw222 on April 7, 2014 at 10:47 PM

I wish they had kept the original dimensions, but thank God it was enough to keep Juan Gonzalez from signing that 8 year $140 million offer. They would still be struggling to win 70 games a season.

Flange on April 7, 2014 at 10:51 PM

Flange on April 7, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Nope, those were from the pre-1974 renovation Yankee Stadium. The field was shrunk a little in 1937 (Ruth’s last year with the Yankees was 1934) most notably in center which moved back to 460′, wile left center shrank to 415′.

That was the configuration it kept until basically being rebuilt in 1973-4.

The Polo Grounds had even more ridiculous dimensions:

Left Field: 279 ft (85 m)
Left-Center: 450 ft (137 m)
Center Field: 483 ft (147 m)
Right-Center: 449 ft (136 m)
Right Field: 258 ft (78 m)

Basically the outfield was a rectangle… Short down the lines, nearly the same distance deep!

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 10:52 PM

If the Tigers were smart, they would have built a team to fit Comerica’s original dimensions (good pitching and fast, high average position players). Instead, they signed Juan Gonzalez for the 2000 season.

bw222 on April 7, 2014 at 10:47 PM

The Cincinnati Reds (my team) pretty much designed Great American Ballpark for Ken Griffy Jr’s left handed power (and he was traded for the year before the park opened):

Left Field – 328 ft (100 m)
Left-Center – 379 ft (116 m)
Center Field – 404 ft (123 m)
Right-Center – 370 ft (113 m)
Right Field – 325 ft (99 m)

Riverfront Stadium, which preceeded it, had these dimensions for all but it’s last years when the outfield was partially demolished to make room for the new park:

Left field – 330 ft (100 m)
Left-center field – 375 ft (114 m)
Center field – 404 ft (123 m)
Right-center field – 375 ft (114 m)
Right field – 330 ft (100 m

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 10:56 PM

i hate when anyone talks about certain races not being attractive or being more attractive, it’s one of my biggest pet peeves. so i’m saying, hopefully you will meet women of all races whom you find attractive, that’s all i’m saying.

Sachiko on April 7, 2014 at 10:14 PM

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Why do you hate it? Can’t people have preferences? How does it affect you if someone else tends to be primarily attracted to certain kinds of people?

bluegill on April 7, 2014 at 10:24 PM

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Nobody can stop anybody from having secretive, personal decision related “preferences”.
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But I believe the rest of us reserve the right to criticize, or complain about anyone’s personal preferences if they’re going to deliberately ‘broadcast’ or otherwise make their preferences publicly known.

listens2glenn on April 7, 2014 at 11:10 PM

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Opened: 1923
Closed for renovation: 1973
Location: East 161st Street and River Avenue, Bronx
Teams that played there: New York Yankees (1923-73)
Field dimensions (1923): 285 feet to left field, 395 to left-center, 460 to deep left-center, 490 to center, 425 to deep right-center, 350 to right-center, 295 to right

You had 520 for CF, that’s what was messing with me. But those are little league distances down the lines. I don’t think Cabrera will ever be in Ruth or Cobb’s level of greatest hitter ever,but he has a real shot at being the best hitter since Williams.
A neat link I just found you might like comparing all the fields, past and present.

Flange on April 7, 2014 at 11:11 PM

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Nobody can stop anybody from having secretive, personal decision related “preferences”.
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But I believe the rest of us reserve the right to criticize, or complain about anyone’s personal preferences if they’re going to deliberately ‘broadcast’ or otherwise make their preferences publicly known.

listens2glenn on April 7, 2014 at 11:10 PM

If this were to be carried to the extreme the Gaystapo has demonstrated, white men who aren’t married to or dating black women will be automatically RAAAAACIST!!! and whites who are married to other whites will have to keep their marriage secret or lose their jobs.

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 11:12 PM

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 10:56 PM

That new ballpark looks like a great place to watch a game. It’s on my list of stadiums that I haven’t been to yet that I’d like to see. That and Pittsburgh’s new one.

Flange on April 7, 2014 at 11:14 PM

You had 520 for CF, that’s what was messing with me. But those are little league distances down the lines. I don’t think Cabrera will ever be in Ruth or Cobb’s level of greatest hitter ever,but he has a real shot at being the best hitter since Williams.
A neat link I just found you might like comparing all the fields, past and present.

Flange on April 7, 2014 at 11:11 PM

CF moved in to 460 in 1937 (where it pretty much stayed until 1973). But to my point, those dimensions were the ones Ruth played his whole career with the Yankees, after they moved from the Polo Grounds that is.

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 11:14 PM

So when the libs and 1/2lib rino SSM advocates bring up the mixed marriage nonsense as if it was all jim crow KKK Bubbas in overalls stuff – That’s just their ignant BS. Plenty of Black people were against mixing also.

BoxHead1 on April 7, 2014 at 9:45 PM

Exactly. Look no further than the reaction from the black community towards Clarence Thomas’ decision to marry a white woman.

Hill60 on April 7, 2014 at 11:24 PM

listens2glenn on April 7, 2014 at 11:10 PM

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If this were to be carried to the extreme the Gaystapo has demonstrated, white men who aren’t married to or dating black women will be automatically RAAAAACIST!!! and whites who are married to other whites will have to keep their marriage secret or lose their jobs.

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 11:12 PM

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They’re not allowed to “punish” beyond criticizing, and once they criticize, we can “counter-crititize”!

It’ll be great . . . . . we’ll just have a neverending barrage of constant criticism, going back ‘n’ forth.
Kinda’ like at hotair.com.

listens2glenn on April 7, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Where are you getting this 520 from? The link I posted says in 1927 CF is 490 (as if that’s not deep enough), I just love baseball and it’s history. Everything I’m seeing says 490.

Flange on April 7, 2014 at 11:32 PM

PRINCETON, NJ — Continuing to represent one of the largest shifts of public opinion in Gallup history, 87% of Americans now favor marriage between blacks and whites, up from 4% in 1958.

whaaaaat?? there are still 13% of people who don’t support it?? who the heck are these people??! i seriously would never have guessed the number was that high.

Sachiko on April 7, 2014 at 9:46 PM

Anecdotally, I’ve listened to a number of conversations between black women. In almost all of them they blamed the white, blonde b!tches for stealing their men away.

Mitoch55 on April 8, 2014 at 12:27 AM

I wonder how many of the 13% who don’t like interracial marriage are minorities.

Othniel on April 8, 2014 at 12:38 AM

Henry Aaron is many things, including the undisputed Home Run King and the most consistent power hitter of his era. He has always been generous with his time, money, and name for kids and good causes. One of the last of the big stars who would actually seek out the kids wanting balls autographed, and sign them free.

But if he is “thoughtful and articulate,” it is a development of his retirement. As a player, he was quiet and had little to say to the press or anyone else outside the clubhouse. His “Brut” commercial was hard to watch, you felt bad for him.

But it was certainly worse for him in the ’70s than it would have been now. Twitter can be brutal, but most big time celebrities have someone else watching their accounts. As World Chess Champion Magnus Carlsen said when asked about critical tweets, “I never see them.”

Adjoran on April 8, 2014 at 12:54 AM

As he pursued Babe Ruth’s historic home-run record, bigots, racists and haters chased him. Only he can know how painful that ordeal must have been. Still, he is lucky it didn’t happen today.

He would be lucky if it happen today because he would have found at most “dog whistles” of racism. He might have been accused of taking steroids, but can you actually imagine being hounded by racists?

Of course if he gave $1000 in a political campaign to limit marriage between a man and a woman, then I could imagine the haters coming after him and twitter may have made it worse for him. But of course recognizing that the racism faced by Aaron would be as impossible today as the hate that would have come in his day for supporting marriage between a man and a woman. Of course expecting a MSM reporter to actually report an accurate picture of the world would be asking a bit much.

yetanotherjohn on April 8, 2014 at 1:24 AM

If the worst thing that black people have to face is anonymous epithets on social media, then racism is not much of a problem.

myiq2xu on April 8, 2014 at 1:56 AM

Somebody needs to rent “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner?”

Both sets of parents were extremely upset with the idea, and for the same wrong reasons.

Aaron was a pure class ballplayer and an excellent human being.
Barry Bonds is a selfish pile of garbage and a cheat.
Babe Ruth was a rude, obnoxious braggart, regularly tasteless, and a womanizer, but also an incredible ballplayer.

I’m pretty sure that skin color had nothing to do with any of the above.

42 forever.

Freelancer on April 8, 2014 at 4:39 AM

Mary Katherine, you hit this one out of the park, so to speak.

SC.Charlie on April 8, 2014 at 6:00 AM

I still consider Henry Aaron to be the all time Home Run King, because Barry Bonds CHEATED.

Does that make me a RAAAAACIST!?

Rhetorical question: of course it does!

ConstantineXI on April 7, 2014 at 9:34 PM

No it doesn’t and I agree with your assessment. Today all the major league ball players are still juiced up. I remember when Roger Maris passed Ruth for the one season record in 1961. He was hated by some baseball fans. Read the following link to hear about what he went through.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/feats/feats12b.shtml

From the link: 1961: The year a record was broken, hearts were broken, and a man’s life was changed forever. Roger Maris will forever be known as the man that took Babe Ruth’s record. The man that changed the record books. Maris was hated, booed, cussed, and generally abused by the press and fans for his chase of the most well-known mark in all of baseball: Babe Ruth’s sixty single season home runs.

SC.Charlie on April 8, 2014 at 6:14 AM

Talk about manufactured controversies…

zoyclem on April 8, 2014 at 7:40 AM

“if you…set out to write a social history of the Obama years, one that captured the day-to-day experience of political life, you would find that race has saturated everything as perhaps never before.” — Jonathan Chait

A day without Obama is therefore a day without faux ‘ad hominem’ racial claims.

So if Obama was all about race, why should America elect a woman, so it can be all about the sex of the POTUS for 4 or 8 years ?

Hasn’t 2 terms of faux ‘ad hominem’ claims been enough ?

J_Crater on April 8, 2014 at 11:51 AM

From Ken Burns – Baseball … (re: Henry Aaron)
George Will mentioned a story about a pregame meeting of the Dodgers managers in preparation for a game with the Braves. They sat around discussing the Atlanta lineup and reviewing all they knew about each hitter the Dodger pitching would face and what they could do to counter each hitter. Each batter got a series of recommendations about what they liked and what pitches caused them trouble in their carriers and recommended sequence of pitches to get them out. Then they got to the clean-up spot (Aaron) and every one fell silent. After a length of time Tommy Lasorda starts with … “Well?” … and a voice from the group says matter-of-factly … “Make sure the bases are empty when he hits it out.”
Only dumbshiite bigots (but I repeat myself) would criticize the person of Henry Aaron. He is a remarkable and virtuous man of character.

Missilengr on April 8, 2014 at 2:38 PM