Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on April 7, 2014 by Allahpundit

With eyes increasingly on him, Jeb Bush signaled on Sunday the kind of campaign he would mount if he runs for president, one arguing against ideological purity tests while challenging party orthodoxy on issues like immigration and education…

Even as he sharply criticized President Obama for his handling of foreign affairs and health care, Mr. Bush made clear that he would run against the style of politics that has characterized recent Republican nominating contests…

“We need to elect candidates that have a vision that is bigger and broader, and candidates that are organized around winning the election, not making a point,” Mr. Bush told an audience at the George Bush Presidential Library and Museum. “Campaigns ought to be about listening and learning and getting better. I do think we’ve lost our way.” He added, “I’m not being critical of my party, but campaigns themselves are reflective of this new America.”

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Some say that, if Bush decides to run, the Republican establishment will put pressure on Rubio to wait his turn. “This is the one window of opportunity for Governor Bush, and Senator Rubio will have many windows of opportunity in the future,” says American Conservative Union (ACU) president Al Cardenas, who served two terms as chairman of the Florida GOP when Bush was governor and Rubio was a state representative…

Though friends and analysts disagree about how the two will approach the pending decision, nearly all agree that a Bush candidacy is more likely now than it was a year ago. “Six months ago, I would have said it’s unlikely though not impossible that Governor Bush would run for president in 2016,” ACU president Cardenas says. “If you ask me today, my answer is different, it’s 50–50. That’s a significant moving of the needle.”

“We’re getting close to having to make a decision, and he’s warming up to the idea of it,” says Cardenas, who doesn’t deny there’s a lot of interest among the party’s top-dollar donors. “Nobody is receiving as many calls as he is,” Cardenas adds. “The best gauge of the intensity of support for somebody is whether the potential candidate is making calls as opposed to receiving calls. That’s probably the most interesting indicator of the intensity of the interest out there.”

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Republicans have but one savior ahead of 2016 and his name is Bush. That is the takeaway from watching much of MSNBC’s programming this Monday after former Republican Florida Gov. Jeb Bush issued the clearest signal yet this weekend that he is considering a presidential bid in 2016…

“He’s showing where people are at,” Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) told the hosts of Morning Joe regarding Bush’s position on immigration. Schumer added that, if the party does not embrace Bush’s version of immigration reform “this year,” the 2016 cycle is “almost certainly” already lost to Republicans…

“If they’re only going to be the party of older white people, they cannot win at a national level,” she added. “And that’s why, perhaps, Jeb Bush thinking of getting into the 2016 race is giving them a glimmer of hope, because he is talking about being more compassionate toward minorities, toward immigrants.”

“Most people agree — Republican, Democrat, independent, whoever you are — Jeb Bush would be a strong general election candidate for Republicans,” The Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza observed. He noted in passing, though, that the “brand problems” associated with his brother’s presidency persist though he did not seem believe that would be more of a disqualifier in a GOP primary than a general election.

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Jeb’s unspoken assumption is that people in the United States who can’t lawfully feed their children can rely on welfare, rather than shoplifting and car theft. Mexico, by his telling, is such a dysfunctional hell hole that even hard-working people can’t find honest work and will go hungry as a result. Prospective illegal aliens find themselves in a “Les Miserables” situation, stealing bread — i.e., jobs in the United States — to feed starving children.

This is horse flop. Mexico is an upper-middle-income country by world standards, with a per capita GDP, in purchasing-power parity terms, greater than that of Turkey, Brazil, Romania, Iran, South Africa, or Thailand. You want real poverty, try Congo or Zimbabwe, Somalia or Afghanistan. Funny that he’s not calling for unlimited immigration from those countries instead. For someone who makes a habit of assuring Mexicans that “I understand your people,” Jeb seems to have a remarkably one-dimensional view of the place…

But putting aside all the ignorance and illogic, Jeb’s view of the issue is clear from this fragment: “The way I look at this, someone who comes into our country because they couldn’t come legally . . .” In the decision tree of immigration policy-making, the first branch is this: Can everyone in the world move to the United States, or are there going to be legal limits, limits that must be enforced even against people engaged in “an act of love”? When Jeb excuses illegal immigration “because they couldn’t come legally,” he’s betraying his view that anyone in the world who wants to come here must be permitted to do so. Stopping them is the opposite of an “act of love.”

And so, Jeb Bush’s immigration policy in a single sentence: “Any limit on immigration is an act of hate.”

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Why is Bush going at his party’s base on two such hot-button issues? We have three theories.

1. He believes it. This is the line that Bush loyalists are shopping. Jeb isn’t like other politicians. He doesn’t play the D.C. game. He says what he thinks and doesn’t care about the consequences.

2. He’s throwing up trial balloons. Every time he talks about running for president — he did it again over the weekend — Jeb makes clear that he would want to do so “joyfully” and not get into a mudfight. While we tend to think that’s impossible given the modern process of running for president, it’s possible that what Jeb is doing with his statements on immigration and Common Core is seeing just how negatively those sorts of proposals are received and how much blowback he gets on them from the right. If it’s less than he expected, maybe he convinces himself he could run without having to get down and dirty with his rivals for the nomination.

3. He’s inoculating himself. Maybe Jeb has already decided he wants to run — or he’s strongly leaning that way. If he has, then making clear his support for Common Core and a more lenient national immigration policy now might well be a way to insulate himself from charges later on in the process that he is insufficiently conservative. You can imagine Bush in a primary debate sometime in late 2015 saying something like this: “My position is long held. Now, not everyone will agree with me but my thoughts on the issue are born of conviction not political positioning.” While that answer won’t convince hard core immigration opponents, it does have the potential to defuse the passion around the issue for others.

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Look at it this way: The GOP establishment is desperate to suppress Tea Party conservatives and also obtain the immigration amnesty they believe will win Latinos and relieve them of the need to do too much rethinking in other areas. The problem for the establishment is lack of candidates. Rubio was a favorite, but he sabotaged himself among core Republican primary voters with his disingenuous, flip-floppy championing of the Gang of 8′s bill. That left Christie–but then Christie got caught in a traffic jam. That left Jeb, probably the establishment’s original choice–but it turns out that Jeb is still a Bush, and even the Bushes are sick of the Bushes. That leaves … well, Rubio again. Maybe he can be rehabilitated in time for the primaries! How? Hmm. Well, if Jeb takes a stand way far out in a squishy idealistic pro-amnesty direction, that creates space for his quondam protege, Rubio, to stake out a position that’s seemingly tougher–e.g. “Jeb’s off base there. Saying it’s an ‘act of love’ obscures the very real problems illegal immigration can cause, which is why I am strong on border enforcement, etc.” Of course Rubio would still be for amnesty, and the establishment would know this. But it might help smuggle him through the primaries.

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It’s not a mystery why elites would totally dig a retro contest between two of the nation’s least-appealing families. It would mean that zombified pundits such as David Gergen, whose lack of cogency is directly proportional to the number of administrations in which he served, could push off retirement a few more years and writers such as Dowd, who peaked in terms of what passes for wit and originality during the Clinton era, could recycle old columns as unashamedly as Cate Blanchet recycles plastic bags at the local Safeway. GOP and Democratic apparatchiks and their big-money enablers wouldn’t have to struggle with the grim and unavoidable fact that fewer and fewer of us are willing to identify with either party – even to strangers on the phone…

We need to discuss openly and honestly the failed foreign policy of both the Bush and Obama administrations. Does anyone seriously think that the Middle East is more stable than it was pre-9/11? Or that the government under either 21st-century president is safeguarding American civil liberties in a way about which we can feel confident? Immigration and tax policy are just as beggared and threadbare and awful. In the areas in which the country is actually breaking with the dead hand of the past—when it comes to pot legalization, say, or marriage equality—the change is coming at the state level and typically from outside traditional party politics.

It’s safe to say that discussion of these and other issues will not come from well-ensconced party favorites. As Democratic consultant Joe Trippi put it, “I don’t see Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton having a big fight over the NSA.” Or much of anything else that really matters. If they were willing to stage those sorts of debates, they wouldn’t be the establishment favorites.

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The notion that Jeb Bush is going to be the Republican presidential nominee is a fantasy nourished by the people who used to run the Republican Party. Bush has been out of a game that changed radically during the 12 years(!) since he last ran for office. He missed the transformation of his brother from Republican savior to squish; the rise of the tea party; the molding of his peer Mitt Romney into a movement conservative; and the ascendancy of a new generation of politicians — Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan, Scott Walker, Ted Cruz, among them — who have been fully shaped by and trained in that new dynamic. Those men occasionally, carefully, respectfully break with the movement. Scorning today’s Republican Party is, by contrast, the core of Jeb’s political identity.

In that, Jeb is like ex-Republican Mike Bloomberg and like the failed GOP apostate Jon Huntsman: He’s deeply committed to centrist causes — federalized education, legal status for undocumented immigrants — that alienate key Republican groups; and he’s vaguely willing to go along with vestigial conservative issues that Republicans don’t care as much about, like standing up for Wall Street (Jeb was on a Lehman Brothers advisory board before that bank’s collapse, and now sits on a Barclay’s board) and opposing marriage equality, a stance he’s sought to downplay by focusing on states’ rights…

This is not to say Jeb doesn’t have assets. The Bush name is no longer toxic; indeed, his brother is now remembered fondly by most Republicans. He was a successful governor of a big key state, with a reputation for moderation, even if it’s been a while. And he can surely raise money. When I tweeted some skepticism about Jeb on Monday morning, two progressive journalists, Chris Hayes and Judd Legum, immediately responded with the conventional wisdom: Republicans “tend to go with moderates and known quantities,” as Legum said.

So that’s the best case: Mitt Romney. The worst case? Mitt with a dollop of Fred Thompson, the halfhearted victim of a halfhearted draft.

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“He’s the smartest guy I know on education,” McCain said in a brief interview in the U.S. Capitol. Asked if Bush’s support for Common Core was an issue, McCain deflected. “What he did for education in Florida … that’s a clear record of success.”

Is he a viable candidate for president, there’s a lot of question about the fact that …? “That his name is Bush?” McCain said, finishing the question. “Somebody else’s name is Clinton.”

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31giddyup on April 8, 2014 at 1:10 AM

Oh, yeah, I’ve seen that. It’s pretty good. Kind of surprised they killed off the blonde English lady

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:11 AM

I got news for you.

I voted for Santorum.

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 12:18 AM

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I still insist he would have won the (R) nomination, were it not for the “cross-over” votes in open-primary states.
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ABOLISH OPEN PRIMARIES ! . . . . . . . . ABOLISH THE DEMOCRAT “SUPER DELEGATES” !

listens2glenn on April 8, 2014 at 1:12 AM

I don’t know why these Bushes keep accentuating the fact that Mexicans love their families. We get it, but that’s no a basis for setting immigration policy.

cimbri on April 8, 2014 at 1:12 AM

Sorry, I am with Lance, ALT, COL and others who are unprepared too ditch FF. I like what works…

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 1:11 AM

According to Unclesmongrel from last night, if you don’t use their toolbar, which I do not, I use Yahoo’s on my homepage, it’s just like removing FF.

I think it was Unclesmonbgrel that told me that.

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 1:13 AM

Good Night, I am going to bed…

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 1:13 AM

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 1:11 AM

I’m sticking with it until the geeks here can point me step by step to something new with a good AdBlock.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:14 AM

Speaking of Mozilla, I’m still looking for a replacement for Thunderbird. No, I will not use Microshaft Outlook/Live, and no, I will not use a web-based client (both for the same reason – lack of security).

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 12:52 AM

I’m looking for a decent email service myself. May see what the paid ones are. Outlook.com has some quirks and don’t care for Windows live either. Been on the Microsoft Commnunity Forum, which is a joke and a waste of time.

I’m IE all the way, so don’t have any change with browsers.

What do you think about Outlook Express? I’ve never used it.

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:14 AM

oscarwilde on April 8, 2014 at 1:02 AM

?????

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:05 AM

It’s an alternative to Firefox.

oscarwilde on April 8, 2014 at 1:14 AM

ABOLISH OPEN PRIMARIES ! . . . . . . . . ABOLISH THE DEMOCRAT “SUPER DELEGATES” !

listens2glenn on April 8, 2014 at 1:12 AM

Amen!

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:14 AM

I think it was Unclesmonbgrel that told me that.

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 1:13 AM

It was, I clicked the link…

oscarwilde on April 8, 2014 at 1:15 AM

oscarwilde on April 8, 2014 at 1:14 AM

I thought you were making a joke. Like a parody browser.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:15 AM

Night OC.

I’m taking leave too!

G’nite

31giddyup on April 8, 2014 at 1:16 AM

I’m sticking with it until the geeks here can point me step by step to something new with a good AdBlock.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:14 AM

No one can accuse us of being pro-homosexual darlin’

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 1:16 AM

You know what I don’t like about Windows 8? I can’t get a plain old simple Solitaire program to play.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:10 AM

Does your version of Windows 8 happen to be 64bit? I just fixed the same problem for someone 2 days ago with Windows 7 64bit.

non-nonpartisan on April 8, 2014 at 1:17 AM

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 1:13 AM 31giddyup on April 8, 2014 at 1:16 AM

Sweet dreams!

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:17 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:18 AM

I will really miss, lament and mourn the loss of XP. It was my favorite OS…
RIP

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 12:52 AM

Me too. Win7 is very similar tho and I’ve used it since 2011. In fact I may get another Win7, since Microsoft is shutting it down after Oct/2014. I don’t want Win8 and Win9 won’t be out for a year the last I heard.

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:18 AM

I thought you were making a joke. Like a parody browser.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:15 AM

No joke. I just installed it on oscar’s endorsement.

Jaibones on April 8, 2014 at 1:18 AM

I installed Cyberfox, not Waterfox, on the same guy’s computer, too.

non-nonpartisan on April 8, 2014 at 1:20 AM

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:17 AM

What in the world are you doing up young lady?..:)

PS..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:20 AM

non-nonpartisan on April 8, 2014 at 1:17 AM

I have no idea. My desk top is Windows 7 and my lap top is Windows 8. I haven’t figured out most of Windows 8 but as long as I can go to Hot Air and read my email, I’m mostly okay. I notice on the games they have loaded on Windows 8 EVERYONE is b!tching about plain old Solitaire. The desk top is just acting so crazy lately.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:20 AM

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 12:59 AM

Terryannonline lives in Corpus Christi.

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 1:00 AM

Is that the actual name, or have you added to it?

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:21 AM

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:20 AM

I don’t know. It’s always the evenings that I shouldn’t be here that I am wide awake.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:21 AM

It was, I clicked the link…

oscarwilde on April 8, 2014 at 1:15 AM

That was nice of you. My hands are full of Dorito dust.

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 1:22 AM

What do you think about Outlook Express? I’ve never used it.

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:14 AM

If you hate Outlook/Live, you’ll hate OE. Besides, OE has been replaced twice over, first by Mail and then by Live Mail.

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 1:22 AM

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:21 AM

I think it is just terryanneonline. She is passionate about moderates. Which is really funny when you give it some thought.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:22 AM

Me too. Win7 is very similar tho and I’ve used it since 2011. In fact I may get another Win7, since Microsoft is shutting it down after Oct/2014. I don’t want Win8 and Win9 won’t be out for a year the last I heard.

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:18 AM

That really sucks. I will miss Win7…

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 1:22 AM

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:21 AM

Great to see you..I hope you and yours are doing well..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:23 AM

Is that the actual name, or have you added to it?

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:21 AM

That’s her screen name. Click it next time. It takes you to her blog.

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 1:23 AM

…to think…a decade or so ago…I liked Jeb…must have been when I was drinking the hard stuff!

KOOLAID2 on April 8, 2014 at 1:03 AM

Probably that Captain Morgan? LOL

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:23 AM

I’m sticking with it until the geeks here can point me step by step to something new with a good AdBlock.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:14 AM

You do not have to get rid of your Firefox. You merely have to neuter it.

After all, why throw away a perfectly good piece of free software, even if it’s made by rabid gays. Use their work, but you don’t have to pay them.

unclesmrgol on April 8, 2014 at 1:23 AM

In fact I may get another Win7, since Microsoft is shutting it down after Oct/2014.
bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:18 AM

Where the hell’d you hear that? DorkCurrent has assured me I will be dead and buried before they quit supporting 7.

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 1:25 AM

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:22 AM

Just a point..Jeb is not running..Jeb is looking at running..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:26 AM

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 1:16 AM

Well, I’m not exactly anti-homosexual. What I really want to be is ignorant of everyone’s sex life. I’m having a hard time figuring why life as it has been known forever has to be changed for a minority of people with out of the main stream personal preferences.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:27 AM

You know what I don’t like about Windows 8? I can’t get a plain old simple Solitaire program to play.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:10 AM

That’s strange. You’d think that would be on every computer:-)
My sis went to an iMac a few years ago and is so unhappy because Free Cell isn’t on it!

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:27 AM

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:26 AM

Well, he can keep on looking.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:28 AM

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 1:25 AM

I’m with you..Looks like the “scare tatics” have began..:)

PS..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:28 AM

good evening all.. hope everyone is well

going2mars on April 8, 2014 at 1:29 AM

I have no idea. My desk top is Windows 7 and my lap top is Windows 8. I haven’t figured out most of Windows 8 but as long as I can go to Hot Air and read my email, I’m mostly okay. I notice on the games they have loaded on Windows 8 EVERYONE is b!tching about plain old Solitaire. The desk top is just acting so crazy lately.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:20 AM

I would think you probably have a 64bit system. Does the game start, and then crash?

A solution that should work is to copy the Games folder elsewhere, and then run the copied individual games in Windows 7 Compatibility Mode.

non-nonpartisan on April 8, 2014 at 1:29 AM

Well, he can keep on looking.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:28 AM

lolz..There is a group of GOP that are well financed that like Jeb..So there you go..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:30 AM

going2mars on April 8, 2014 at 1:29 AM

Good evening..:)

PS..Logano is doing well..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:31 AM

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 1:25 AM

They are going to stop supporting XP this month I believe. I had not heard anything about 7

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:32 AM

I’m with you..Looks like the “scare tatics” have began..:)

PS..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:28 AM

You’d better believe it. 8 totally blow’d and from what I hear, 9 ain’t hardly any better.

Totally different than fightthesmears.com or flag.gov
(actually it’s pretty much the same thing only with shittier design.)

ATTACKWAAAAAATCH!

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 1:32 AM

They are going to stop supporting XP this month I believe. I had not heard anything about 7

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:32 AM

From what I understand..Windows 7 is safe for now..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:33 AM

After all, why throw away a perfectly good piece of free software, even if it’s made by rabid gays. Use their work, but you don’t have to pay them.

unclesmrgol on April 8, 2014 at 1:23 AM

This is my attitude also.

non-nonpartisan on April 8, 2014 at 1:33 AM

non-nonpartisan on April 8, 2014 at 1:29 AM

I’ll get the youngest Boy Wonder to look.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:33 AM

Dire Straits on April 8

yes he is…Penske has both those boys with a win now..
did you notice that only 5 of the top 10 have wins..
someone with a high points finish and no wins
will be tossed out at years end…
for a bottom dweller with one win…

going2mars on April 8, 2014 at 1:35 AM

unclesmrgol on April 8, 2014 at 1:23 AM
This is my attitude also.

non-nonpartisan on April 8, 2014 at 1:33 AM

Good points..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:35 AM

unclesmrgol on April 8, 2014 at 1:23 AM

I know how to do that and already don’t use their toolbar on my desk top (Windows 7) but it will take me a bit to figure it out on my lap top. I need to explore this thing.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:35 AM

XP came out in 2001, and it was supported until now. The sales of 7 will stop later this year, but support will still be around for a while. Maybe not for 13 years, but for a good number of them at least.

non-nonpartisan on April 8, 2014 at 1:36 AM

going2mars on April 8, 2014 at 1:35 AM

Agreed..I am not a fan of the new points system..:(

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:37 AM

The GOPe frat theme song

Remember, gambling is illegal at Bushwood sir…

Gohawgs on April 8, 2014 at 1:37 AM

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:30 AM

I wonder if these people on K Street really know what is good for them in the long run? They have only themselves to blame for the majority of the stifling regulations by trying to screw the competition.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:38 AM

Gohawgs on April 8, 2014 at 1:37 AM

Good evening..It has been awhile..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:39 AM

In fact I may get another Win7, since Microsoft is shutting it down after Oct/2014.

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:18 AM

Wait…what?

Jaibones on April 8, 2014 at 1:39 AM

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:14 AM

If you hate Outlook/Live, you’ll hate OE. Besides, OE has been replaced twice over, first by Mail and then by Live Mail.

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 1:22 AM

Ugh! Thanks for the info. Outlook.com is great at keeping spam out as Hotmail always was. I’ve been having problems not being able to open attachments, either text or pics. Since tax season is about over, I’ll take the time to call MSFT.

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:39 AM

did you notice that only 5 of the top 10 have wins..
someone with a high points finish and no wins
will be tossed out at years end…
for a bottom dweller with one win…

going2mars on April 8, 2014 at 1:35 AM

Each iteration of the Chase keeps getting worse and worse.

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 1:41 AM

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:21 AM

I think it is just terryanneonline. She is passionate about moderates. Which is really funny when you give it some thought.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:22 AM

Thanks. I’ll check my notes. The name sounds familiar but I want to be sure. All I remember is she was a strong supporter of Romney early on.

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:41 AM

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:38 AM

I see your point..But they are not only on K street..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:41 AM

Agreed..I am not a fan of the new points system..:(

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:37 AM

I mean, what was wrong with what they had between 1973 and 2003?

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 1:42 AM

I’m sticking with it until the geeks here can point me step by step to something new with a good AdBlock.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:14 AM

Opera works with Adblock plus. I’ve been trying it out. It seems to run fine. maybe a little quicker than Firefox.

trigon on April 8, 2014 at 1:42 AM

Each iteration of the Chase keeps getting worse and worse.

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 1:41 AM

Hear!..Hear!..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:42 AM

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:37 AM

they will change it quickly when a Gordon or Johnson
is sitting 3rd in points…no wins
and Kurt Busch is 25th with one win…
if there is someone lower in points ahead of position 16
he will drop out and Gordon/Johnson will shuffle down..
if you have 15 winners in the top 16…
Gordon/Johnson (with a great 3rd in points standing)
will be dropped and Busch from 25 will move to the 16th seed..
its coming…

going2mars on April 8, 2014 at 1:43 AM

I just got a new computer with Windows 8.1 on it. I have a bunch of different Solitaire games on it, but no classic Solitaire. WTF?

trigon on April 8, 2014 at 1:44 AM

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:18 AM

That really sucks. I will miss Win7…

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 1:22 AM

They won’t stop support, just it won’t be available to buy after that. I have a Dell, new in Nov 2011. What I need to do is get a new battery before they become hard to find.

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:44 AM

She is passionate about moderates. Which is really funny when you give it some thought.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:22 AM

Heh.

Jaibones on April 8, 2014 at 1:44 AM

I mean, what was wrong with what they had between 1973 and 2003?

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 1:42 AM

Nothing at all sir..Bill France Jr. wanted tomake a change..Big mistake by him..imho..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:44 AM

That’s her screen name. Click it next time. It takes you to her blog.

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 1:23 AM

I’ll just check my notes tho. Thanks.

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:45 AM

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:41 AM

There’s terryannonline, Terrie and Terry. One of the Terrie/Terry’s liked Mitt cuz he spoke French which made her swoon. One was a dairy farmer from Indiana who liked Mitch Daniels…

Gohawgs on April 8, 2014 at 1:45 AM

Dire,

JtL has been sending cards and letters imploring me to return…

Gohawgs on April 8, 2014 at 1:46 AM

Nothing at all sir..Bill France Jr. wanted tomake a change..Big mistake by him..imho..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:44 AM

Could have swore it was Brian who wanted that change to benefit Team Hendrick.

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 1:46 AM

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:18 AM

Where the hell’d you hear that? DorkCurrent has assured me I will be dead and buried before they quit supporting 7.

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 1:25 AM

Sorry, I should have said it won’t be available to buy. They won’t stop support.

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:47 AM

Each iteration of the Chase keeps getting worse and worse.

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 1:41 AM

all things touched by the France family get worse..
Big Bill sr and jr must be rolling over about now..
this current crop of Frances knows nothing of racing..
its all hype and tv time..

look what they have done to sportscar racing in the US…debacle..!!

going2mars on April 8, 2014 at 1:47 AM

going2mars on April 8, 2014 at 1:43 AM

You could very well be right..I’m with Steve Eggleston..What was wrong with the Winston Cup points system?..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:47 AM

trigon on April 8, 2014 at 1:44 AM

It’s a plot. Probably by the Democrats.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:49 AM

The Romantic Warrior – Return to Forever

Stay with it until 2 minutes in, when the fun starts. After 100-150 listens, you’ll really start to get a feel for it.

Jaibones on April 8, 2014 at 1:49 AM

My 7 Windows 3.1 floppys will never get a virus.

Good luck with your FlynnOS.

Murphy9 on April 8, 2014 at 1:49 AM

Just a point..Jeb is not running..Jeb is looking at running..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:26 AM

I had read earlier this year that he was getting organized for a run in almost every State. Can’t remember where, but I know I did:-)

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:50 AM

Gohawgs on April 8, 2014 at 1:46 AM

lolz..It is great to see you back..You have been missed..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:50 AM

Sorry, I should have said it won’t be available to buy. They won’t stop support.

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:47 AM

I think you mean they will stop production of keys. There should be a ton of surplus for several years.

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 1:50 AM

Nothing at all sir..Bill France Jr. wanted tomake a change..Big mistake by him..imho..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:44 AM

jr was out in 2000…brian took over in 2003..

William Clifton France (April 4, 1933 – June 4, 2007), nicknamed “Bill Jr.” and “Little Bill,” was an American motorsports executive who served from 1972 to 2000 as the head of NASCAR, the sanctioning body of US-based stock car racing. He succeeded the founder of NASCAR, his father Bill France, Sr., as its head. His son Brian France has been NASCAR CEO since 2003.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_France%2C_Jr.

going2mars on April 8, 2014 at 1:51 AM

Gohawgs on April 8, 2014 at 1:45 AM

How odd that they all like moderates.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:51 AM

That’s what SHE said, Murphy9…

Gohawgs on April 8, 2014 at 1:51 AM

going2mars on April 8, 2014 at 1:51 AM

That’s what I thought.

And on that bombshell, I’m calling it a night.

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 1:52 AM

Could have swore it was Brian who wanted that change to benefit Team Hendrick.

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 1:46 AM

You are correct that Team Hendrick has a lot of pull..When Dale Jr. missed out on making the chase..Things changed..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:53 AM

They have to change everything they did since the Winston series because cigarettes……

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:53 AM

Microsoft has set a firm date of October 31st for final sale of consumer Windows 7 machines, but business machines are another story. The official website has been updated as such to reflect this, with Microsoft noting that October 31, 2014 is the new end-of-sale date for Windows 7

http://www.maximumpc.com/microsoft_pushing_users_adopt_windows_8_over_windows_7_2014

I think it was on some of the other Tech sites also.

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:53 AM

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:51 AM

And, detested a certian female politician…

Gohawgs on April 8, 2014 at 1:53 AM

going2mars on April 8, 2014 at 1:51 AM

You are correct..My Bad..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:55 AM

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:47 AM

I think Brian also married the same blonde gold digger….twice..
so perhaps grandpa dropped him on his head in a few pit lanes..

going2mars on April 8, 2014 at 1:55 AM

I see your point..But they are not only on K street..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:41 AM

I know, it’s the Chamber of Commerce and whatever local big money in their districts/states.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:55 AM

I’ll get the youngest Boy Wonder to look.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:33 AM

I just posted a reply to this @approximately 1:51 with some links to save him time looking, but it got held in moderation for some reason. If you are interested, you can come back later to see them I guess.

non-nonpartisan on April 8, 2014 at 1:56 AM

Murphy9 on April 8, 2014 at 1:49 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:57 AM

They have to change everything they did since the Winston series because cigarettes……

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:53 AM

evening CM…
for that they had to change Series Sponsors
not points systems…
Winston left years before Brian took over I believe.. let me look >>

going2mars on April 8, 2014 at 1:58 AM

going2mars on April 8, 2014 at 1:55 AM

rofl..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:58 AM

wiki says 2003 was Nextell (are they still in business?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Cup

going2mars on April 8, 2014 at 1:59 AM

I’ve never been much for ideological purity tests, but if Jeb is the nominee in 2016, I’m staying the hell home. I’m not voting for another Bush. I’m just not.

Caiwyn on April 8, 2014 at 1:59 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 1:57 AM

Hi. HA hasn’t been loading most of the day. I got so much done today!

Murphy9 on April 8, 2014 at 2:00 AM

Gohawgs on April 8, 2014 at 1:53 AM

They really take what they hear in the media to heart. I can’t believe the number of people who parrot the MSM remarks to me about said female politician. I have come to the conclusion that the media has that scalp on its belt, Cruz is their next object.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 2:00 AM

I know, it’s the Chamber of Commerce and whatever local big money in their districts/states.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:55 AM

There are a lot of “Blue Bloods” out there..They will have a candidate in 2016..You can count on it..:)

Dire Straits on April 8, 2014 at 2:01 AM

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