Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on April 7, 2014 by Allahpundit

With eyes increasingly on him, Jeb Bush signaled on Sunday the kind of campaign he would mount if he runs for president, one arguing against ideological purity tests while challenging party orthodoxy on issues like immigration and education…

Even as he sharply criticized President Obama for his handling of foreign affairs and health care, Mr. Bush made clear that he would run against the style of politics that has characterized recent Republican nominating contests…

“We need to elect candidates that have a vision that is bigger and broader, and candidates that are organized around winning the election, not making a point,” Mr. Bush told an audience at the George Bush Presidential Library and Museum. “Campaigns ought to be about listening and learning and getting better. I do think we’ve lost our way.” He added, “I’m not being critical of my party, but campaigns themselves are reflective of this new America.”

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Some say that, if Bush decides to run, the Republican establishment will put pressure on Rubio to wait his turn. “This is the one window of opportunity for Governor Bush, and Senator Rubio will have many windows of opportunity in the future,” says American Conservative Union (ACU) president Al Cardenas, who served two terms as chairman of the Florida GOP when Bush was governor and Rubio was a state representative…

Though friends and analysts disagree about how the two will approach the pending decision, nearly all agree that a Bush candidacy is more likely now than it was a year ago. “Six months ago, I would have said it’s unlikely though not impossible that Governor Bush would run for president in 2016,” ACU president Cardenas says. “If you ask me today, my answer is different, it’s 50–50. That’s a significant moving of the needle.”

“We’re getting close to having to make a decision, and he’s warming up to the idea of it,” says Cardenas, who doesn’t deny there’s a lot of interest among the party’s top-dollar donors. “Nobody is receiving as many calls as he is,” Cardenas adds. “The best gauge of the intensity of support for somebody is whether the potential candidate is making calls as opposed to receiving calls. That’s probably the most interesting indicator of the intensity of the interest out there.”

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Republicans have but one savior ahead of 2016 and his name is Bush. That is the takeaway from watching much of MSNBC’s programming this Monday after former Republican Florida Gov. Jeb Bush issued the clearest signal yet this weekend that he is considering a presidential bid in 2016…

“He’s showing where people are at,” Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) told the hosts of Morning Joe regarding Bush’s position on immigration. Schumer added that, if the party does not embrace Bush’s version of immigration reform “this year,” the 2016 cycle is “almost certainly” already lost to Republicans…

“If they’re only going to be the party of older white people, they cannot win at a national level,” she added. “And that’s why, perhaps, Jeb Bush thinking of getting into the 2016 race is giving them a glimmer of hope, because he is talking about being more compassionate toward minorities, toward immigrants.”

“Most people agree — Republican, Democrat, independent, whoever you are — Jeb Bush would be a strong general election candidate for Republicans,” The Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza observed. He noted in passing, though, that the “brand problems” associated with his brother’s presidency persist though he did not seem believe that would be more of a disqualifier in a GOP primary than a general election.

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Jeb’s unspoken assumption is that people in the United States who can’t lawfully feed their children can rely on welfare, rather than shoplifting and car theft. Mexico, by his telling, is such a dysfunctional hell hole that even hard-working people can’t find honest work and will go hungry as a result. Prospective illegal aliens find themselves in a “Les Miserables” situation, stealing bread — i.e., jobs in the United States — to feed starving children.

This is horse flop. Mexico is an upper-middle-income country by world standards, with a per capita GDP, in purchasing-power parity terms, greater than that of Turkey, Brazil, Romania, Iran, South Africa, or Thailand. You want real poverty, try Congo or Zimbabwe, Somalia or Afghanistan. Funny that he’s not calling for unlimited immigration from those countries instead. For someone who makes a habit of assuring Mexicans that “I understand your people,” Jeb seems to have a remarkably one-dimensional view of the place…

But putting aside all the ignorance and illogic, Jeb’s view of the issue is clear from this fragment: “The way I look at this, someone who comes into our country because they couldn’t come legally . . .” In the decision tree of immigration policy-making, the first branch is this: Can everyone in the world move to the United States, or are there going to be legal limits, limits that must be enforced even against people engaged in “an act of love”? When Jeb excuses illegal immigration “because they couldn’t come legally,” he’s betraying his view that anyone in the world who wants to come here must be permitted to do so. Stopping them is the opposite of an “act of love.”

And so, Jeb Bush’s immigration policy in a single sentence: “Any limit on immigration is an act of hate.”

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Why is Bush going at his party’s base on two such hot-button issues? We have three theories.

1. He believes it. This is the line that Bush loyalists are shopping. Jeb isn’t like other politicians. He doesn’t play the D.C. game. He says what he thinks and doesn’t care about the consequences.

2. He’s throwing up trial balloons. Every time he talks about running for president — he did it again over the weekend — Jeb makes clear that he would want to do so “joyfully” and not get into a mudfight. While we tend to think that’s impossible given the modern process of running for president, it’s possible that what Jeb is doing with his statements on immigration and Common Core is seeing just how negatively those sorts of proposals are received and how much blowback he gets on them from the right. If it’s less than he expected, maybe he convinces himself he could run without having to get down and dirty with his rivals for the nomination.

3. He’s inoculating himself. Maybe Jeb has already decided he wants to run — or he’s strongly leaning that way. If he has, then making clear his support for Common Core and a more lenient national immigration policy now might well be a way to insulate himself from charges later on in the process that he is insufficiently conservative. You can imagine Bush in a primary debate sometime in late 2015 saying something like this: “My position is long held. Now, not everyone will agree with me but my thoughts on the issue are born of conviction not political positioning.” While that answer won’t convince hard core immigration opponents, it does have the potential to defuse the passion around the issue for others.

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Look at it this way: The GOP establishment is desperate to suppress Tea Party conservatives and also obtain the immigration amnesty they believe will win Latinos and relieve them of the need to do too much rethinking in other areas. The problem for the establishment is lack of candidates. Rubio was a favorite, but he sabotaged himself among core Republican primary voters with his disingenuous, flip-floppy championing of the Gang of 8′s bill. That left Christie–but then Christie got caught in a traffic jam. That left Jeb, probably the establishment’s original choice–but it turns out that Jeb is still a Bush, and even the Bushes are sick of the Bushes. That leaves … well, Rubio again. Maybe he can be rehabilitated in time for the primaries! How? Hmm. Well, if Jeb takes a stand way far out in a squishy idealistic pro-amnesty direction, that creates space for his quondam protege, Rubio, to stake out a position that’s seemingly tougher–e.g. “Jeb’s off base there. Saying it’s an ‘act of love’ obscures the very real problems illegal immigration can cause, which is why I am strong on border enforcement, etc.” Of course Rubio would still be for amnesty, and the establishment would know this. But it might help smuggle him through the primaries.

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It’s not a mystery why elites would totally dig a retro contest between two of the nation’s least-appealing families. It would mean that zombified pundits such as David Gergen, whose lack of cogency is directly proportional to the number of administrations in which he served, could push off retirement a few more years and writers such as Dowd, who peaked in terms of what passes for wit and originality during the Clinton era, could recycle old columns as unashamedly as Cate Blanchet recycles plastic bags at the local Safeway. GOP and Democratic apparatchiks and their big-money enablers wouldn’t have to struggle with the grim and unavoidable fact that fewer and fewer of us are willing to identify with either party – even to strangers on the phone…

We need to discuss openly and honestly the failed foreign policy of both the Bush and Obama administrations. Does anyone seriously think that the Middle East is more stable than it was pre-9/11? Or that the government under either 21st-century president is safeguarding American civil liberties in a way about which we can feel confident? Immigration and tax policy are just as beggared and threadbare and awful. In the areas in which the country is actually breaking with the dead hand of the past—when it comes to pot legalization, say, or marriage equality—the change is coming at the state level and typically from outside traditional party politics.

It’s safe to say that discussion of these and other issues will not come from well-ensconced party favorites. As Democratic consultant Joe Trippi put it, “I don’t see Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton having a big fight over the NSA.” Or much of anything else that really matters. If they were willing to stage those sorts of debates, they wouldn’t be the establishment favorites.

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The notion that Jeb Bush is going to be the Republican presidential nominee is a fantasy nourished by the people who used to run the Republican Party. Bush has been out of a game that changed radically during the 12 years(!) since he last ran for office. He missed the transformation of his brother from Republican savior to squish; the rise of the tea party; the molding of his peer Mitt Romney into a movement conservative; and the ascendancy of a new generation of politicians — Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan, Scott Walker, Ted Cruz, among them — who have been fully shaped by and trained in that new dynamic. Those men occasionally, carefully, respectfully break with the movement. Scorning today’s Republican Party is, by contrast, the core of Jeb’s political identity.

In that, Jeb is like ex-Republican Mike Bloomberg and like the failed GOP apostate Jon Huntsman: He’s deeply committed to centrist causes — federalized education, legal status for undocumented immigrants — that alienate key Republican groups; and he’s vaguely willing to go along with vestigial conservative issues that Republicans don’t care as much about, like standing up for Wall Street (Jeb was on a Lehman Brothers advisory board before that bank’s collapse, and now sits on a Barclay’s board) and opposing marriage equality, a stance he’s sought to downplay by focusing on states’ rights…

This is not to say Jeb doesn’t have assets. The Bush name is no longer toxic; indeed, his brother is now remembered fondly by most Republicans. He was a successful governor of a big key state, with a reputation for moderation, even if it’s been a while. And he can surely raise money. When I tweeted some skepticism about Jeb on Monday morning, two progressive journalists, Chris Hayes and Judd Legum, immediately responded with the conventional wisdom: Republicans “tend to go with moderates and known quantities,” as Legum said.

So that’s the best case: Mitt Romney. The worst case? Mitt with a dollop of Fred Thompson, the halfhearted victim of a halfhearted draft.

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“He’s the smartest guy I know on education,” McCain said in a brief interview in the U.S. Capitol. Asked if Bush’s support for Common Core was an issue, McCain deflected. “What he did for education in Florida … that’s a clear record of success.”

Is he a viable candidate for president, there’s a lot of question about the fact that …? “That his name is Bush?” McCain said, finishing the question. “Somebody else’s name is Clinton.”

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If we get Bush and Clinton as the nominees of each of their parties, dynastic rule would reign supreme. That truly is sickening.

tommy71 on April 8, 2014 at 12:11 AM

Donna Summer – Hot Stuff
And on that note, I bid Friends and Lurkers niters and sleep well!

Newtie and the Beauty on April 8, 2014 at 12:11 AM

I would vote for Rick Santorum over Jeb Bush in the primary. The idea of Jeb Bush being the Republican nominee is so repulsive that I would vote anyone else.

thuja on April 8, 2014 at 12:02 AM

I hope we have a much better Candidate in the Primaries. What I’m seeing tho, is a repeat of 2012. Every R Candidate was trashed by Romney and other Republicans, so he became the only one standing. My opinion has always been he was left standing for the fall.(guy) Whether he knew that or not, I’ve often wondered.

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 12:13 AM

I ain’t done

KCB on April 8, 2014 at 12:14 AM

If we get Bush and Clinton as the nominees of each of their parties, dynastic rule would reign supreme. That truly is sickening.

tommy71 on April 8, 2014 at 12:11 AM

I believe neither will be nominated, so I’m not too worried.

non-nonpartisan on April 8, 2014 at 12:14 AM

If we get Bush and Clinton as the nominees

of each of their parties, dynastic rule would reign supreme. That truly is sickening.

tommy71 on April 8, 2014 at 12:11 AM

I’ll just puke for about six months.

KCB on April 8, 2014 at 12:15 AM

G’night NB…

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 12:15 AM

Excuse me. do you have an ID?

KCB on April 8, 2014 at 12:10 AM

Badges? I don’t need no stinking badges.

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 12:15 AM

I believe neither will be nominated, so I’m not too worried.

non-nonpartisan on April 8, 2014 at 12:14 AM

Agreed.

KCB on April 8, 2014 at 12:15 AM

G’night NB…

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 12:15 AM

G’nite Nebraska?

That’s in Omaha!

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 12:16 AM

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 12:15 AM

Nice seeing you on the night shift. It’s cooler here!

KCB on April 8, 2014 at 12:17 AM

Did anybody see AMC’s new show ‘Turn’ about the American spy ring during the Revolutionary War?

trigon on April 8, 2014 at 12:17 AM

I would vote for Rick Santorum over Jeb Bush in the primary. The idea of Jeb Bush being the Republican nominee is so repulsive that I would vote anyone else.

thuja on April 8, 2014 at 12:02 AM

I would proudly vote for Rick Santorum, put up yard signs, make phone calls, and do it all while wearing one of his obnoxious campaign sweater vests.

Punchenko on April 8, 2014 at 12:17 AM

Steppenwolf – Born to be wild

RickB on April 8, 2014 at 12:18 AM

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 12:16 AM

That was for Newtie…

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 12:18 AM

Ratso needs a smoke and beer…

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 12:18 AM

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 12:05 AM

Yeah, um, we’re gonna need to keep our blue foxes away from our terryannons.

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 12:06 AM

I think she and I had a few rounds in 2012:-)

Oh, just to be clear, I’m an IEfox:-)

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 12:18 AM

I got news for you.
I voted for Santorum.

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 12:18 AM

Tucker, Marshall

KCB on April 8, 2014 at 12:19 AM

I think she and I had a few rounds in 2012:-)

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 12:18 AM

She’s young and pretty, so I cut her slack.

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 12:20 AM

Ratso needs a smoke and beer…

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 12:18 AM

Heh!

KCB on April 8, 2014 at 12:20 AM

Did anybody see AMC’s new show ‘Turn’ about the American spy ring during the Revolutionary War?

trigon on April 8, 2014 at 12:17 AM

Noooo! Dang it! Was it good?

31giddyup on April 8, 2014 at 12:21 AM

Nice seeing you on the night shift. It’s cooler here!

KCB on April 8, 2014 at 12:17 AM

Good to be here, even for just a little while.

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 12:21 AM

Recommended documentary:

Disinformation: Inside the Russian-born Science of Influence

Bonne nuit et au revoir, mes amis!

Resist We Much on April 8, 2014 at 12:21 AM

No

Skywise on April 8, 2014 at 12:22 AM

Newt Gingrich for Preezy!!!!! ;-)

tommy71 on April 8, 2014 at 12:22 AM

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 12:18 AM

She’s young and pretty, so I cut her slack.

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 12:20 AM

Wasn’t she a big Romney supporter? You wouldn’t cut her any slack if she was anti GW:-)

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 12:24 AM

Newt Gingrich for Preezy!!!!! ;-)

tommy71 on April 8, 2014 at 12:22 AM

…where’s 7%?

KOOLAID2 on April 8, 2014 at 12:25 AM

Joan Jett – Cherry bomb

RickB on April 8, 2014 at 12:26 AM

What does Santorum really stand for? He’s not any better than JEB.

non-nonpartisan on April 8, 2014 at 12:26 AM

Republicans have but one savior ahead of 2016 and his name is Bush.

That’s hilarious. He will lose more states than even McCain did.

cat_owner on April 8, 2014 at 12:27 AM

What does Santorum really stand for? He’s not any better than JEB.

non-nonpartisan on April 8, 2014 at 12:26 AM

He stands for big government. He proved it by supporting Part D and NCLB. He also lost his last race by about 18 points.

cat_owner on April 8, 2014 at 12:29 AM

Wasn’t she a big Romney supporter? You wouldn’t cut her any slack if she was anti GW:-)

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 12:24 AM

Prolly not. But she’s from Texas.

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 12:30 AM

Well, I see Microsoft didn’t turn my XP into a pumpkin.

I’m having a toast to the best Microsoft ever! Long Live XP!!

Thanks Fallon for the ginger syrup drink!!

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 12:31 AM

Resist We Much on April 8, 2014 at 12:21 AM

I love you! You are way too smart for me! Unless you noticed that I know there are two oo’s in the word “too”, and I used “there” correctly. Um, Is Axe “there?”

KCB on April 8, 2014 at 12:31 AM

He stands for big government. He proved it by supporting Part D and NCLB. He also lost his last race by about 18 points.

cat_owner on April 8, 2014 at 12:29 AM

He makes me feel like Charlie Crist does. Ick. Say no to JEB and Santorum. And let’s put Meghan McCain on a diet while we’re at it.

non-nonpartisan on April 8, 2014 at 12:33 AM

Newt Gingrich for Preezy!!!!! ;-)

tommy71 on April 8, 2014 at 12:22 AM

Dude, you have to cut down on the booze. just sayin’

KCB on April 8, 2014 at 12:34 AM

The hell with it. If it ain’t Cruzz or Palin I’m stayin’ home.

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 12:35 AM

31giddyup on April 8, 2014 at 12:21 AM

I liked it.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 12:36 AM

Sleep well, Sophie.

Schadenfreude on April 8, 2014 at 12:37 AM

Jeb Bush for FEMA Director, not POTUS…

Gohawgs on April 8, 2014 at 12:37 AM

Very nice.

KCB on April 8, 2014 at 12:37 AM

Why? Why can’t we have an even half way conservative?

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 12:38 AM

I liked it.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 12:36 AM

Glad to see you here darlin’

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 12:39 AM

SOME THOUGHTS ON 2016 FROM AN ANONYMOUS JOURNALIST READER: “As delighted as I am professionally at the prospect of a Bush-Clinton extravaganza, I see the pending spectacle as another sign of the decline and fall of the American empire. Two tired old dynasties running two ponderous bloodless parties with advanced cases of syphilis. Bush-Clinton is the best these people can do, on the heels of this current farce? I’d be more enthusiastic about Rand Paul but I have no tolerance for any whiff of isolationism, and I’m afraid the whack apple hasn’t rolled far enough from the whack tree.”

Posted at 11:46 pm by Glenn Reynolds

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 12:39 AM

Cuz our “betters” are addicted to cocktail parties, corruption and graft, Cindy…

Gohawgs on April 8, 2014 at 12:40 AM

Well, I see Microsoft didn’t turn my XP into a pumpkin.

I’m having a toast to the best Microsoft ever! Long Live XP!!

Thanks Fallon for the ginger syrup drink!!

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 12:31 AM

I’ll give your XP computer about 3 weeks before it is zombified, 4 if you have non-Microshaft anti-virus on it. Many of the security holes yet to be found on the newer versions of Windows also exists on XP, and those won’t be patched.

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 12:41 AM

One more

KCB on April 8, 2014 at 12:41 AM

Jeb Bush for FEMA Director, not POTUS…

Gohawgs on April 8, 2014 at 12:37 AM

Jeb Bush for PLO (Permanent Latrine Orderly as in “No time for Sergeants”)

VorDaj on April 8, 2014 at 12:43 AM

I suppose there is a framework remaining of his father and brother’s old network that could give him a formidable fundraising machine, but I strongly suspect his year to run would have been 2000 had W not made the decision. Now he’s already two full terms out of the Governor’s mansion.

But just like Christie, the real talking up of Jeb isn’t coming from the anonymous “Republican donors and insiders” who may well be completely fictional (who would need anonymity to “leak” positive info about a candidate?), it’s the media, who would like nothing better than to set up a center-right candidate as Republican “frontrunner.”

And like Christie, it’s all nonsense. Neither he nor Bush ever had that much chance of winning the nomination in 2016.

Of course, it’s possible the field will get fractured with other losers again, like Santorum or Huckabee, in which case the fight will go on for months and the best-funded candidates will have the best chances.

Adjoran on April 8, 2014 at 12:43 AM

I simply cannot understand this enthusiasm in certain quarters for a Jeb Bush candidacy. Is it his irresistible Jeb Bush charisma, his dashing Jeb Bush good looks, his devil-may-care Jeb Bush charm? No? Okay, how about his riveting, Lincolnesque rhetorical skills? Oh, I see: not exactly a barn-burner in that department, is he? Well, then, it must be his intellectual accomplishments–the books he’s written, the policy papers he’s authored? Wait, what’s that you said? Can’t name one? All right.

So to summarize, he was governor of Florida twelve years ago and his last name is Bush, which is (as we all know) a guaranteed vote magnet. I’m also told the GOP Establishment is big on the ‘It’s his turn’ method of selecting presidential nominees. Okay, fine, but who in the world decided it would be Jeb Bush’s turn?

A straight-ticket-voting, party of Lincoln Republican, I voted for McCain and Romney, but I just don’t think I have it in me to vote for a dumpy nonentity whose last name is Bush, sorry.

troyriser_gopftw on April 8, 2014 at 12:44 AM

That we’re even having this discussion simply proves that the GOP continue to be clueless.

After 2006 and 2008 disasters, we showed them what worked in 2010. They didn’t pay attention and had their a$$es handed to them in 2012, seem hell-bent to try the same crap again in 2014 and 2016 that has demonstrably not worked – not only failed to bring in new voters, but turned off what used to be a reliable conservative base.

Keep f*cking that chicken, GOP.

There may be electoral success in ’14, but it will have nothing to do with any genius or strategy on the part of the GOPe, it will be entirely because Obama helped the Dems step on their own d1cks, nothing more. But it will convince them more than ever to go with some milquetoast, squishy f*ckwit like Jeb or Christie in ’16, where they’ll be destroyed by a combination of a) the media propping up whatever piece of crap the Dems decide to put atop their ticket while simultaneously shitting all over whatever GOP candidate they had just gotten done praising as being a ‘reasonable moderate’, and b) ever more of the disenfranchised conservative base simply deciding to stay home.

Midas on April 8, 2014 at 12:44 AM

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 12:41 AM

I think bluefox will only use her XP desktop for offline tasks. She should be safe…

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 12:45 AM

Jeb Bush’s immigration policy in a single sentence: “Any limit on immigration is an act of hate.”

Micky Kaus is one of the clearer-thinking commentators writing today. Bush’s immigration policy is intellectually stupid and legally incoherent. It is simply Hispandering dopiness, which, given Jeb Bush’s perpetually dopey expression, works perfectly.

Jaibones on April 8, 2014 at 12:45 AM

Noooo! Dang it! Was it good?

31giddyup on April 8, 2014 at 12:21 AM

I thought it was. I had a little bit of a problem with the accents, but I think it will get better as I get my ear dialed into it. Looks like it may be pretty gritty.

trigon on April 8, 2014 at 12:46 AM

Jeb Bush for PLO (Permanent Latrine Orderly as in “No time for Sergeants”)

VorDaj on April 8, 2014 at 12:43 AM

How soon befor Jeb makes a commercial touting obamacare?

Gohawgs on April 8, 2014 at 12:47 AM

Why? Why can’t we have an even half way conservative?

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 12:38 AM

Because what the GOP’s *been* doing works so bloody well, apparently.

Midas on April 8, 2014 at 12:47 AM

I simply cannot understand this enthusiasm in certain quarters for a Jeb Bush candidacy. Is it his irresistible Jeb Bush charisma, his dashing Jeb Bush good looks, his devil-may-care Jeb Bush charm? No?

troyriser_gopftw on April 8, 2014 at 12:44 AM

Perfect.

Jaibones on April 8, 2014 at 12:47 AM

So to summarize, he was governor of Florida twelve years ago and his last name is Bush, which is (as we all know) a guaranteed vote magnet. I’m also told the GOP Establishment is big on the ‘It’s his turn’ method of selecting presidential nominees. Okay, fine, but who in the world decided it would be Jeb Bush’s turn?

troyriser_gopftw on April 8, 2014 at 12:44 AM

Rove, who created a new, powerful category in NextInLine™, offspring of a former President. It’s so powerful that it trumped both former VP (Dan Quayle) and 2nd in the previous primary (Steve Forbes) in 2000.

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 12:48 AM

How soon befor Jeb makes a commercial touting obamacare?

Gohawgs on April 8, 2014 at 12:47 AM

It will be his second Iowa spot.

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 12:49 AM

I think bluefox will only use her XP desktop for offline tasks. She should be safe…

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 12:45 AM

In that case, rock on.

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 12:50 AM

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 12:39 AM

Thank you very much. I have to work tomorrow so I won’t be here long.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 12:50 AM

Regarding Jeb: No More Kings!

Posted from Firefox Opera!

FloatingRock on April 8, 2014 at 12:50 AM

Good night HotAir!

KCB on April 8, 2014 at 12:50 AM

Speaking of Mozilla, I’m still looking for a replacement for Thunderbird. No, I will not use Microshaft Outlook/Live, and no, I will not use a web-based client (both for the same reason – lack of security).

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 12:52 AM

In that case, rock on.

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 12:50 AM

I will really miss, lament and mourn the loss of XP. It was my favorite OS…
RIP

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 12:52 AM

G’night Ken.

I’m just about out of here as well.

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 12:52 AM

It will be his second Iowa spot.

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 12:49 AM

His first being “I’m Jeb Bush and I support diverting corn from the food supply and instead using it to create a less efficient, dirty burning fuel!”

Gohawgs on April 8, 2014 at 12:53 AM

Midas on April 8, 2014 at 12:47 AM

You know just after I wrote that, I wonder who I thought would be at least a halfway conservative. I know a lot of folks I don’t want to run but can’t think of any I feel strongly about. Scott Walker?

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 12:53 AM

Speaking of Mozilla, I’m still looking for a replacement for Thunderbird. No, I will not use Microshaft Outlook/Live, and no, I will not use a web-based client (both for the same reason – lack of security).

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 12:52 AM

I am sticking with FF and add-ons for now…

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 12:54 AM

Hey, Miss Cindy and Trigon, thank you for letting me know. Hopefully, there will be re-runs. I

31giddyup on April 8, 2014 at 12:54 AM

I attributed Krikorian’s quote to Kaus; oops. Here’s Kaus:

Well, if Jeb takes a stand way far out in a squishy idealistic pro-amnesty direction, that creates space for his quondam protege, Rubio, to stake out a position that’s seemingly tougher–e.g. “Jeb’s off base there. Saying it’s an ‘act of love’ obscures the very real problems illegal immigration can cause, which is why I am strong on border enforcement, etc.” Of course Rubio would still be for amnesty, and the establishment would know this. But it might help smuggle him through the primaries.

It’s a little conspiratorial. I actually do think Bush is stupid enough to run openly as a RINO.

Jaibones on April 8, 2014 at 12:54 AM

His first being “I’m Jeb Bush and I support diverting corn from the food supply and instead using it to create a less efficient, dirty burning fuel!”

Gohawgs on April 8, 2014 at 12:53 AM

That goes without saying.

Of course, just how influential is Iowa nowadays? I mean Huckabee won it in 2008 and Santorum won it in 2012.

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 12:54 AM

Pat Benatar – Invincible

RickB on April 8, 2014 at 12:55 AM

I have to work tomorrow so I won’t be here long.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 12:50 AM

Hey, Cindy.

Jaibones on April 8, 2014 at 12:55 AM

Jaibones on April 8, 2014 at 12:55 AM

Hey! I thought you were on vacation.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 12:56 AM

Scott Walker?

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 12:53 AM

I like him more than anyone else who is talking about running.

Jaibones on April 8, 2014 at 12:56 AM

Just a day trip.

Jaibones on April 8, 2014 at 12:57 AM

I needed pie really, really bad.

Jaibones on April 8, 2014 at 12:57 AM

Hey, Miss Cindy and Trigon, thank you for letting me know. Hopefully, there will be re-runs. I

31giddyup on April 8, 2014 at 12:54 AM

It’s AMC – of COURSE there will be reruns (and reruns, and reruns…).

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 12:57 AM

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 12:24 AM

Prolly not. But she’s from Texas.

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 12:30 AM

Had a phone call. I’ll have to check if we’re talking about the same person.

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 12:59 AM

Scott Walker?

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 12:53 AM

I think he’s got the right temperament and his position on immigration is probably the only one I can abide.

Jaibones on April 8, 2014 at 12:59 AM

Recommended documentary:

Disinformation: Inside the Russian-born Science of Influence

Bonne nuit et au revoir, mes amis!

Resist We Much on April 8, 2014 at 12:21 AM

Sigh… I sure hope you have better luck getting people to pay attention to this than I had…

oscarwilde on April 8, 2014 at 1:00 AM

Had a phone call. I’ll have to check if we’re talking about the same person.

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 12:59 AM

Terryannonline lives in Corpus Christi.

Lanceman on April 8, 2014 at 1:00 AM

31giddyup on April 8, 2014 at 12:54 AM

Sometimes they will show the previous show before the new episodes. I don’t usually watch shows that require weekly attention but I’m going to give this on a try. At least there will actually be people worth rooting for.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:00 AM

I heard that Jeb was named after a racist Confederate War General

faraway on April 7, 2014 at 11:10 PM

Better than Jeb’s grandfather, Prescott, who made a fortune trading with the Nazis in the 1930s and was an early supporter of Planned Parenthood.

bw222 on April 8, 2014 at 1:02 AM

Speaking of Mozilla, I’m still looking for a replacement for Thunderbird. No, I will not use Microshaft Outlook/Live, and no, I will not use a web-based client (both for the same reason – lack of security).

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 12:52 AM

I am sticking with FF and add-ons for now…

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 12:54 AM

I’m running Waterfox 64, which is an unofficial 3rd party Browser based on Firefox. Just in case anyone cares…

oscarwilde on April 8, 2014 at 1:02 AM

Jaibones on April 8, 2014 at 12:59 AM

Why are they so stupid not to realize that we could have a serious conversation about immigration once they secure the border and get a handle on where the people are that came here legally? Instead they keep funding and defunding the border and not enforcing the laws like we won’t notice.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:03 AM

How soon befor Jeb makes a commercial touting obamacare?

Gohawgs on April 8, 2014 at 12:47 AM

It will be his second Iowa spot.

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 12:49 AM

(:->)
…to think…a decade or so ago…I liked Jeb…must have been when I was drinking the hard stuff!

KOOLAID2 on April 8, 2014 at 1:03 AM

oscarwilde on April 8, 2014 at 1:02 AM

?????

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:05 AM

Forgot about AMC reruns, Steve. :)

I don’t usually watch shows those kinds of shows either Cindy. I don’t watch a lot of television unless their old movies or historical series. I haven’t watch local news in years either.

31giddyup on April 8, 2014 at 1:06 AM

KOOLAID2 on April 8, 2014 at 1:03 AM

There is nothing wrong with liking him. Especially ten years ago.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:06 AM

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 12:31 AM

I’ll give your XP computer about 3 weeks before it is zombified, 4 if you have non-Microshaft anti-virus on it. Many of the security holes yet to be found on the newer versions of Windows also exists on XP, and those won’t be patched.

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 12:41 AM

Actually, the XP desktop hasn’t had any Anti-virus/spyware on it for sometime. Yeah, patch Tuesday, LOL

I just finished this evening burning all of my favs to CD, so I doubt I’ll be going online. I know the bad guys are waiting with baited breath:-)

bluefox on April 8, 2014 at 1:06 AM

Why are they so stupid not to realize that we could have a serious conversation about immigration once they secure the border and get a handle on where the people are that came here legally? Instead they keep funding and defunding the border and not enforcing the laws like we won’t notice.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:03 AM

Not a clue, but powerful evidence that they don’t actually listen to anyone except their K Street lobbyists and their expense accounts.

Jaibones on April 8, 2014 at 1:06 AM

Speaking of Mozilla, I’m still looking for a replacement for Thunderbird. No, I will not use Microshaft Outlook/Live, and no, I will not use a web-based client (both for the same reason – lack of security).

Steve Eggleston on April 8, 2014 at 12:52 AM

When I installed Opera a short while ago I read that it includes an email client but I haven’t played with it yet.

FloatingRock on April 8, 2014 at 1:07 AM

31giddyup on April 8, 2014 at 1:06 AM

I’m a bit sick of the anti-hero schtick. It’s one thing to be a flawed human but half the time I can’t find any redeeming value in the characters.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:08 AM

Cindy have you ever caught an episode of “Hell on Wheels”? It’s not your everyday western. Love the photography and music too.

31giddyup on April 8, 2014 at 1:10 AM

You know what I don’t like about Windows 8? I can’t get a plain old simple Solitaire program to play.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2014 at 1:10 AM

There is a de facto civil war going on. On our side: patriots, conservatives, border state governments (except Cali), law enforcement. On the other side: Democrat/Socialist-controlled city governments, Fortune 100 companies, racist diversity-mongers, and the various assorted conservative-haters.

We pass immigration law and pray for someone to enforce it; they undermine it and provide aid and comfort to illegal aliens.

Jaibones on April 8, 2014 at 1:10 AM

Sorry, I am with Lance, ALT, COL and others who are unprepared too ditch FF. I like what works…

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2014 at 1:11 AM

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