Bombshell: New York not inspecting most abortion clinics

posted at 12:41 pm on April 7, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Remember Kermit Gosnell? The main reason that the serial killer managed to elude detection for so long was that the state of Pennsylvania didn’t bother to inspect his facility for seventeen years, even though state law required it — and even though previous inspections showed significant causes for concern. The grand jury report specifically blamed politics in Pennsylvania for a lack of action. Had federal investigators not started probing Gosnell for his illegal trade in drugs, he’d still be cheerfully murdering babies that survived abortions and a few of their mothers, too.

One might think that other states would have learned a lesson from this grotesque example. Unfortunately, New York hasn’t, as the New York Post discovered:

The state Health Department is failing to inspect many of New York’s abortion clinics — with some facilities escaping scrutiny for more than a decade, bombshell documents obtained by The Post reveal.

Health inspectors regulate 25 diagnostic and treatment clinics and surgery centers that provide abortion services — though pro-choice advocates say there are 225 abortion service providers in New York state.

Eight of the 25 clinics were never inspected over the 2000-12 span, five were inspected just once, and eight were inspected only twice or three times — meaning once every four or six years.

Well, at least we know which clinics passed inspection, right? Women in New York can therefore make an informed choice about which abortion providers to choose with that information. Actually, they can’t, because the state refuses to name the clinics that have been inspected. The FOIA demand from a pro-life group had that identifying information redacted, because the state was concerned about the safety of clinics, rather than women.

Maybe this is a funding issue. New York just may not have the resources to inspect commercial facilities. Or …

By comparison, city eateries are inspected every year and graded, while a new law requires tanning salons to undergo inspections at least once every other year.

The Post points out that 130,000 abortions took place in 2012, the last year for which complete statistics are available. Almost 75,000 of those were performed in New York City alone. It’s a little more significant act than getting one’s skin bronzed or ordering a slice of pizza, and yet New York seems almost entirely disinterested in the safety of women who enter into these clinics.

How many more Gosnells would we find if New York conducted its required inspections? Maybe they’re afraid to find out.

Addendum: Let this serve also as a reminder to donate to the Gosnell Movie project at IndieGoGo. Perhaps if we get that story out, states like New York will face enough pressure to enforce the law.


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Not surprised since inspectors in NYC are bought.

workingclass artist on April 7, 2014 at 12:43 PM

The PP said “every child has a right to live”, or some such.

Schadenfreude on April 7, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Now why would they want to do that!??

They may find another GOSNELL…..can’t have that now..

ToddPA on April 7, 2014 at 12:45 PM

thuja will provide proof that it has become lower than Josef Mengele.

Schadenfreude on April 7, 2014 at 12:45 PM

For some light

Schadenfreude on April 7, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Hey Ed, it may be happening here in Minnesota. Dayton vetoed a bill that called for inspections and standards on a par with other medical clinics. Actually tattoo parlors and veterinary clinics have higher standards than the baby killer factories. Your dog or cat probably have better cleanliness standards when they see the vet than a woman that is being lied to about her abortion.

crosshugger on April 7, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Oh that rich… kinda like the Taliban ain’t practicing proper hygiene when they bust a cap or lop of a head of some poor soon to be departed towel head.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on April 7, 2014 at 12:50 PM

State of New York: “Who cares?”

Ward Cleaver on April 7, 2014 at 12:50 PM

crosshugger on April 7, 2014 at 12:50 PM

I know — wrote about that here.

Ed Morrissey on April 7, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Just another local story.

The reality is that barbershops get more scrutiny than an abortion factory. Something

Happy Nomad on April 7, 2014 at 12:56 PM

i really do hope and pray the gosnell movie gets enough funding. spread the word on social media networks!!

Sachiko on April 7, 2014 at 12:56 PM

When you practice the wholesale destruction of living human flesh, is there really a right way to do it”?

rplat on April 7, 2014 at 12:56 PM

‘Cos you know if we don’t keep abortion legal women will be forced to get them in unsafe back alley clinics!

Trafalgar on April 7, 2014 at 12:57 PM

So the Progressive War on Women has been going on for over a decade huh.
SHOCKING!
(sarc)

Pelosi Schmelosi on April 7, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Started a response for this one, but couldn’t do it.

Frank Lib on April 7, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Ed –
All claims aside, the real difference between pro-choice and pro-life is safe abortion services vs. unsafe abortion services.
All the clever dbl speak about admittance privileges, clinic guidelines, etc. aside, the pro-life movement has given up making arguments and has replaced it with forcibly and legally restricting access to services.
I can’t imagine there are many deluded enough to think this will stop abortions.
So Texas is now the incubator state for ‘more Gosnells’.
Tragic how lost that reality is on many in the pro-life movement.

verbaluce on April 7, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Bombshell: New York not inspecting most abortion clinics

…well no!…they have to make sure that kids are running sanitary “Lemonade Stands” in front of their houses…people have the necessary “Garage Sale” permits…etc. etc.

KOOLAID2 on April 7, 2014 at 1:05 PM

So it’s dirty back alley style.
Ok.

vityas on April 7, 2014 at 1:08 PM

Ed –

verbaluce on April 7, 2014 at 1:05 PM

…you have to address Ed now?

KOOLAID2 on April 7, 2014 at 1:08 PM

I’m telling you, if you want to engage in activities the government doesn’t approve of, there’s no base of operations less likely to get raided than an abortion clinic in a liberal state.

/snark

Aitch748 on April 7, 2014 at 1:08 PM

When you practice the wholesale destruction of living human flesh, is there really a right way to do it”?

rplat on April 7, 2014 at 12:56 PM

Yes. For starters you’ve got to cook the books so that the only federal funding appears to have been spent on administrative overhead for “counseling services” and not on the abortions themselves.

Happy Nomad on April 7, 2014 at 1:09 PM

I’m telling you, if you want to engage in activities the government doesn’t approve of, there’s no base of operations less likely to get raided than an abortion clinic in a liberal state.

/snark

Aitch748 on April 7, 2014 at 1:08 PM

True! And, for example, if you need more firepower during a turf war with another drug cartel……. Well you’re just beefing up security because you’ve had threats from pro-life activists.

Happy Nomad on April 7, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Started a response for this one, but couldn’t do it.

Frank Lib on April 7, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Some topics don’t led themselves to comfortable satire.

iurockhead on April 7, 2014 at 1:14 PM

All claims aside, the real difference between pro-choice and pro-life is safe abortion services vs. unsafe abortion services.

verbaluce on April 7, 2014 at 1:05 PM

No you moron. The real difference between pro-abortion and pro-life is if the child lives.

Thank God for Texas and Virginia and the handful of other states that hold the kill factories to any sort of clinical standard. VA’s kill factories were less regulated than barbershops before the laws changed.

Happy Nomad on April 7, 2014 at 1:14 PM

Hey Ed, it may be happening here in Minnesota. Dayton vetoed a bill that called for inspections and standards on a par with other medical clinics. Actually tattoo parlors and veterinary clinics have higher standards than the baby killer factories. Your dog or cat probably have better cleanliness standards when they see the vet than a woman that is being lied to about her abortion.

crosshugger on April 7, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Next time you’re at the grocery store, look down at the weigh scale/scanner at the checkout station. You will see a sticker on the back or side of it, plainly visible to customers, that shows it has been inspected regularly, -seems to be twice a year in Georgia.

slickwillie2001 on April 7, 2014 at 1:15 PM

The Progressive sacrament: choppin’ up babies.

Akzed on April 7, 2014 at 1:15 PM

War on Women

John the Libertarian on April 7, 2014 at 1:17 PM

Ed –
All claims aside, the real difference between pro-choice and pro-life is safe abortion services vs. unsafe abortion services.
All the clever dbl speak about admittance privileges, clinic guidelines, etc. aside, the pro-life movement has given up making arguments and has replaced it with forcibly and legally restricting access to services.
I can’t imagine there are many deluded enough to think this will stop abortions.
So Texas is now the incubator state for ‘more Gosnells’.
Tragic how lost that reality is on many in the pro-life movement.

verbaluce on April 7, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Unbelievably stupid. You got Gosnell in a state that required none of that. And Tiller in a state that actively supported him.
Two of (if not the) biggest serial killers in history.

irishgladiator63 on April 7, 2014 at 1:18 PM

This is NY right? They don’t think that all those black women need clean, sanitary clinics to get their abortions performed in?

That sure does seem racist. I mean, targeting black babies for abortion is pretty racist too, but not even giving those women the same level of sanitary clinics as white women?

That’s your 2014 Democrat progressive.

Murphy9 on April 7, 2014 at 1:19 PM

Egads! They could even be selling 16 oz. sodas at these clinics.

GreenBlade on April 7, 2014 at 1:20 PM

All claims aside, the real difference between pro-choice and pro-life is safe abortion services vs. unsafe abortion services. verbaluce on April 7, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Mmmmm… no. And what the hell does “all claims aside” even mean?

All claims aside [?], the real difference between pro-choice and pro-life is safe abortion services, you know, like Gosnell’s, vs. unsafe abortion services, you know, like Gosnell’s.

It’s always unsafe for the baby.

Akzed on April 7, 2014 at 1:21 PM

verbaluce on April 7, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Are you stuck on stupid? Do you really think we’re dumb enough to chase your squirrel? If you believed half of what you said, you would support inspections of abortion clinics which is the topic of this post. Stay on topic, stay on point, address the issue.

dominigan on April 7, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Lawlessness (moral) begets lawlessness (statutory).

Ricard on April 7, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Since we know what the demographics are of most of those getting one. And the plan is right in line with the unstated demoncrats goal for eugenics. Nothing to see here. Keep it up NYC.

jake49 on April 7, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Should the government be inspecting private businesses and medical clinics?

I thought we wanted the government out of our lives because the private sector can do it better and more efficiently.

antisense on April 7, 2014 at 1:39 PM

I find this hard to believe. Next thing you’ll tell me is that they’re not looking for voter fraud either.

crrr6 on April 7, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Ed –
All claims aside, the real difference between pro-choice and pro-life is safe abortion services vs. unsafe abortion services.
All the clever dbl speak about admittance privileges, clinic guidelines, etc. aside, the pro-life movement has given up making arguments and has replaced it with forcibly and legally restricting access to services.
I can’t imagine there are many deluded enough to think this will stop abortions.
So Texas is now the incubator state for ‘more Gosnells’.
Tragic how lost that reality is on many in the pro-life movement.

verbaluce on April 7, 2014 at 1:05 PM

huh? pro-lifers support more inspections of abortion centers, in order to increase safety and cleanliness standards. so you’re saying that more inspections of abortion centers will lead to more unsafe abortions?? that clearly makes absolutely no sense whatsoever…

Sachiko on April 7, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Should the government be inspecting private businesses and medical clinics?

I thought we wanted the government out of our lives because the private sector can do it better and more efficiently.

antisense on April 7, 2014 at 1:39 PM

Funny how the only government regulation you don’t want is when it comes to taking out a hit on your baby.

crrr6 on April 7, 2014 at 1:43 PM

This is NY right? They don’t think that all those black women need clean, sanitary clinics to get their abortions performed in?

That sure does seem racist. I mean, targeting black babies for abortion is pretty racist too, but not even giving those women the same level of sanitary clinics as white women?

That’s your 2014 Democrat progressive.

Murphy9 on April 7, 2014 at 1:19 PM

Hey, they were not in clean sanitary places when they got preggers. Why should the abortion be any different? /

The reality is that there is no valid defense of not inspecting the kill factories with as much regularity as medical clinics and outpatient facilities are inspected. But to acknowledge that, the left would have to admit that abortion is something a bit more than removing unwanted tissue or that abortion is a medical procedure.

Happy Nomad on April 7, 2014 at 1:45 PM

Should the government be inspecting private businesses and medical clinics?

I thought we wanted the government out of our lives because the private sector can do it better and more efficiently.

antisense on April 7, 2014 at 1:39 PM

nice try. the “government out of our lives” argument is such a weak excuse to justify gosnell and his killings, which happened because government did not inspect him strictly enough. the “government out of our lives” argument is about when govermnet overreaches.

Sachiko on April 7, 2014 at 1:48 PM

The reality is that there is no valid defense of not inspecting the kill factories with as much regularity as medical clinics and outpatient facilities are inspected. But to acknowledge that, the left would have to admit that abortion is something a bit more than removing unwanted tissue or that abortion is a medical procedure.

Happy Nomad on April 7, 2014 at 1:45 PM

exactly. the left will do ANYTHING to keep people from realizing what abortion truly is- the killing of innocent people. the left will ignore a person who cut spinal cords of babies, because if people were aware of that case, support for abortion in general might decrease and that absolutely cannot happen!! it’s way beyond sickening! this country is in the toilet.

Sachiko on April 7, 2014 at 1:52 PM

Addendum: Let this serve also as a reminder to donate to the Gosnell Movie project at IndieGoGo. Perhaps if we get that story out, states like New York will face enough pressure to enforce the law

.

Over $400,000 now pledged, but they’ll need over three times as many donor dollars to get this movie made.

Fallon on April 7, 2014 at 1:53 PM

Actually, the order to stop inspecting PA abortion clinics came down from Tom Ridge’s administration when he was governor.

butch on April 7, 2014 at 2:00 PM

Ah right, most here do support a Big State when convenient. Still, clearly New York is not doing its job here for political reasons.

Stories like this happen all the time in many different areas where the .gov really shouldn’t be involved. Corruption from bottom to top.

antisense on April 7, 2014 at 2:06 PM

How many more Gosnells would we find if New York conducted its required inspections? Maybe they’re afraid to find out.

But this is what the leftist’s want. So why should I care if more of them die in their own butcher shops? I’ve always said the only good commie is a room temperature commie. The same is true of leftists. They are inherently evil and more akin to a plague on humanity than anything else with their ideologies that spread nothing but misery to their moronically stupid followers. And that is the crux of the problem: it is their followers who reap the rotten fruit their leadership sows, not the leadership. For all of you with a religious streak, I have one question: how does that square with your idea of a benevolent God?

earlgrey on April 7, 2014 at 2:07 PM

All claims aside, the real difference between pro-choice and pro-life is safe abortion services vs. unsafe abortion services.

verbaluce on April 7, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Colossal idiocy on display, as per usual from Verbaldouche…The difference between pro-death and pro-life is one supports the right to live and y’all support the right to murder. There is no safe abortion service when the young baby dies. You are a ghoul.

bimmcorp on April 7, 2014 at 2:12 PM

I miscarried this past month. We found out at my 11 week 3 day appointment that the baby had stopped growing at 9 weeks 2 days and had no heartbeat. We did a Doppler, 3 ultrasounds (where the measurements were done and the heartbeat wasn’t found), and a blood test to be absolutely sure. The placenta was still firmly attached and my body had not recognized yet that the baby was gone. We decided to do a D&C.

They wheeled me down a hall with doors wide enough for the gurney to get through. I had a doctor, a anesthesiologist and 3 nurses there in a hospital surgical room. The doctor thought she was done, but she did another ultrasound to be sure that she had gotten it all, and had to do a bit more.

I was let go with a prescription for pain medication, an appointment for a follow up to be sure I was healthy and didn’t have an infection, and directions to take it easy and rest and heal. The baby was sent on for chromosomal testing, and we were able to have some tissue sent back so we could have it cremated and eventually buried with one of us when we finally kick off.

Shouldn’t all women get the same level of care when doing a D&C?

cptacek on April 7, 2014 at 2:16 PM

cptacek on April 7, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Absolutely they should. And may I offer my condolences on your loss?…

bimmcorp on April 7, 2014 at 2:24 PM

bimmcorp on April 7, 2014 at 2:24 PM

Thank you very much. It has been very hard to come to terms with it.

cptacek on April 7, 2014 at 2:26 PM

Thank you very much. It has been very hard to come to terms with it.

cptacek on April 7, 2014 at 2:26 PM

It must be particularly excruciating for you to have to listen to all these baby killers piss and moan about their ‘right’ to destroy the very gift that you so obviously cherished. I wish you and your husband the very best…

bimmcorp on April 7, 2014 at 2:31 PM

All claims aside, the real difference between pro-choice and pro-life is safe abortion services vs. unsafe abortion services.

verbaluce on April 7, 2014 at 1:05 PM

There isn’t a word in the English language for how incorrect this is.

The difference between pro-choice and pro-life, is negligence for the human right to life, negligence for the regulation people claim keeps women safe, and negligence for the long-term ramifications for the just-under-50% of people who survive the procedure; and people who recognize everyone’s right to live and the government’s role in protecting that right.

You want to talk about double-speak, look at all the distracting talk about social issues and “wanted pregnancies” and countless other things that I’m supposed to believe “make it okay”. In truth, it’s the pro-life movement that has the courage to say there’s another way to do this; that abortion should not be treated as salves for social ills.

The Schaef on April 7, 2014 at 2:33 PM

It must be particularly excruciating for you to have to listen to all these baby killers piss and moan about their ‘right’ to destroy the very gift that you so obviously cherished. I wish you and your husband the very best…

bimmcorp on April 7, 2014 at 2:31 PM

Yes. It is abhorrent to me at a level far above what I felt before last month. Life and healthy babies are an absolute miracle we take for granted every day. We found out on a Monday and after the last ultrasound/blood test on Thursday, we did the D&C on Friday. The week is a blur.

I knew the baby was already gone and I still didn’t want to go on Friday. I can’t imagine the horror and pain and sadness and grief women who get abortions done feel if/when they finally wake up to the fact that they killed their child.

cptacek on April 7, 2014 at 2:39 PM

Does anyone know of any patient advocacy watchdog groups? I’d be interested in donating some time to help them audit/collect data supporting the need for patient protections in the abortion industry.

lineholder on April 7, 2014 at 2:40 PM

To this specific topic, though, no, it doesn’t surprise me one bit that NY doesn’t inspect most abortion clinics. Kansas tried and has been blocked by lawsuits, activist judges and Planned Parenthood every step of the way. NY lawmaker haven’t even tried.

cptacek on April 7, 2014 at 2:42 PM

Shouldn’t all women get the same level of care when doing a D&C?

cptacek on April 7, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Absolutely, 100%, you should get all that care and more.

My wife’s second miscarriage, before any of our sons was born, was at a little over nine weeks, and the baby did not pass normally. We were forced to go to the ER for a D&C as well.

Your story illustrates exactly verb’s claim about Gosnells in Texas is nonsense, because in Texas, everyone would get what you got, whereas in Pennsylvania and New York, where they are championing women through this process, the authorities are TURNING A BLIND EYE and they are NOT MONITORING THE SAFETY OF THE WOMEN.

Given the choice between the two, I wonder if verb would be honest about which one is genuinely looking out for “safe services”. I know what I would take, and I believe I know what you would take. I also know it’s slim comfort in times like those, and my prayers are with you.

The Schaef on April 7, 2014 at 2:43 PM

cptacek on April 7, 2014 at 2:16 PM

You have my deepest condolences! I miscarried twins at five months. I had developed what seemed to be a cold early in my pregnancy, and with two other little ones to care for, it just dragged on for weeks. The babies were both poorly formed.

It’s been many years ago now, but…make sure that you let yourself grieve. It will come back on you many times over if you don’t.

lineholder on April 7, 2014 at 2:46 PM

All claims aside, the real difference between pro-choice and pro-life is safe abortion services vs. unsafe abortion services.

verbaluce on April 7, 2014 at 1:05 PM

You’re right – the pro-life side wants safe services if they have to suffer the existence of the procedure. The pro-choice side doesn’t even want to know.

Safe, legal, and rare. It’s plainly obvious you only care about one of those words and will sacrifice safety to keep it from being rare.

You inspect what you expect; inspect nothing, expect nothing.

Jeff Weimer on April 7, 2014 at 2:47 PM

antisense on April 7, 2014 at 1:39 PM

As long as the principle of corporate liability stands, there will be inspections of medical facilities.

lineholder on April 7, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Meat and poultry slaughterhouses receive more inspection and scrutiny than does your average, run of the mill abortion factory. The death/pro abortion crowd are no better than the butchers that perform this vital woman’s health procedure. The Bible is quite clear of the reward that awaits those who engage in the shame of infanticide.

bimmcorp on April 7, 2014 at 2:50 PM

As long as the principle of corporate liability stands, there will be inspections of medical facilities.

lineholder on April 7, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Gosnell and Tiller’s victims could not be reached for comment. Mostly because there were no inspections of their facilities.

Jeff Weimer on April 7, 2014 at 2:50 PM

The Schaef on April 7, 2014 at 2:43 PM

lineholder on April 7, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Thank you both.

cptacek on April 7, 2014 at 2:52 PM

verbaluce on April 7, 2014 at 1:05 PM

You can’t bring yourself to comment on the post.

itsspideyman on April 7, 2014 at 2:52 PM

verbaluce on April 7, 2014 at 1:05 PM

The healthcare industry doesn’t operate under the doctrine of charitable immunity anymore. The abortion industry has been allowed to continue to operate under that doctrine, but that has to change.

The reason why the kinds of regs (such as admitting privileges) put into place in TX are necessary is because federal/state health agencies that should be responsible for protecting the public by conducting facility inspections are guilty of gross negligence in upholding their duty.

Admitting privileges requires that the credentialing process be conducted. If anything goes awry, it is likely to be detected on external audit of the hospital granting the privileges.

It’s a safeguard that accomplishes at least some of what the state should be doing.

lineholder on April 7, 2014 at 2:54 PM

The states which are run by, drum roll please, DEMS the party that cares.

Kissmygrits on April 7, 2014 at 2:59 PM

Gosnell and Tiller’s victims could not be reached for comment. Mostly because there were no inspections of their facilities.

Jeff Weimer on April 7, 2014 at 2:50 PM

I know. It’s so disheartening.

Where there’s a will, there’s a way. There are third-party auditing groups involved in accreditation procedures that we can make use of to provide the protections that are needed (since the federal/state governments will not do so). I’m glad to see that option being considered.

lineholder on April 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM

Where there’s a will, there’s a way. There are third-party auditing groups involved in accreditation procedures that we can make use of to provide the protections that are needed (since the federal/state governments will not do so). I’m glad to see that option being considered.

lineholder on April 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM

Phil Klein tried on Tiller. Since Tiller was a personal friend of, and campaign contributor to, Kathleen Sebelius, Klein was sued, hounded out of office, and all the redacted records he had managed to compile were shredded under her direction.

cptacek on April 7, 2014 at 3:09 PM

verbaluce on April 7, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Actually, the truth is… the leftists WANT abortions done in back-alley conditions. How else could you interpret their wanting to block inspections? So now you have to wonder… if back-alley conditions are the desired leftist result, why not outlaw abortions? They get their desired result either way, and you get to placate pro-lifers also. How about that logic, verby?

dominigan on April 7, 2014 at 3:13 PM

For all of you with a religious streak, I have one question: how does that square with your idea of a benevolent God?

earlgrey on April 7, 2014 at 2:07 PM

God allows us to choose of our own accord what kind of person we will strive to become in life. Whether we will pursue things that are of good or things that are of evil.

But allowing us that choice doesn’t prevent us from being exposed to what is of evil in life. The two would be in total opposition, wouldn’t they?

And wouldn’t exposing ourselves to the desire to arbitrarily decide who deserves to live or die could become a form of evil in and of itself, couldn’t it?

We just have to fight against what is of evil in the best manner we can.

lineholder on April 7, 2014 at 3:15 PM

I simply cannot wrap my tiny brain around the lie that is verbaluce’s soul.

I tried writing it out to actually encompass the twisty bobcat nature of his logic, when it dawned on me-

His arguments about this post boil down to: abortion clinics cannot maintain the same levels of sanitation and professionalism as other medical facilities, so to require that they do maintain similar standards PUNISHES these abortion clinics, causing them to close down and make it harder for women to find abortions, i.e forcing them into unsanitary back alley abortions. o_O

The argument is IDENTICAL to Verb’s and the left’s opposition to Voter ID: people of color voting Democrat simply cannot be expected to behave with the same level of responsibility that white people do, so to require that they obtain photo ID will PUNISH these people of color voting Democrat by disenfranchising them.

It is an intellectual swamp of rock-bottom expectations. Abortion clinics CAN’T be sanitary, blacks CAN’T get photo ID.

To expect better is a typical racisss conservative trick.

Pless1foEngrish on April 7, 2014 at 3:20 PM

This is a surprise (‘bombshell’ – really?) to whom, exactly?

Midas on April 7, 2014 at 3:21 PM

Bombshell??? I don’t get this word. How about “What else were you expecting?”.

This all is an indication of how screwed up the left is. They make this huge noise about how abortions should be legal so they are safe. So why not follow through and make sure they are safe? Doesn’t this situation rather hurt public perception of the cause? What would be the downside of making sure abortion clinics were well run?

Just another example that big government is not capable of doing anything competently.

bartbeast on April 7, 2014 at 3:24 PM

cptacek on April 7, 2014 at 3:09 PM

Yes, that gross negligence on blatant display, with no one to call them on it. And ultimately, it is the patient (particularly women) who suffer from it.

I’d love to get my hands on the data behind it. How many women end up going to the ER due to complications of substandard care? What about the spread of infections diseases due to multiple use of single use instruments? Or what about long-term consequences of those infectious STDs that were contracted through contaminated instruments?

Do you remember the comments made in Gosnell’s trial about women contracting chlamydia after visiting Gosnell? Have you seen the national increase in chlamydia rates lately? Coincidental, perhaps. And it would be extremely difficult (if not impossible) to prove a causal outcome of abortion.

And those are just physical data…nothing in comparison to what the psychological data is likely to be.

We have to find a better way to fight against this!

lineholder on April 7, 2014 at 3:25 PM

It just occurred to me- who INSURES abortion clinics?

What are the rates abortion clinics pay?

How are the insurers willing to put up with the potential harm of an un-inspected facility?

Pless1foEngrish on April 7, 2014 at 3:25 PM

dominigan on April 7, 2014 at 3:13 PM

Except then they would lose PP as a money-contributing arm of the Democratic Party. (Gotta’ get to the taxpayers pockets somehow, don’t they?)

lineholder on April 7, 2014 at 3:28 PM

This post is a good demonstration of how poisonous social “conservative” ideology is to the cause of limited government. Rather than pointing out that onerous inspection requirements and other regulatory burdens simply drive up the cost of goods and services such as food and tanning without providing a justifiably large benefit to consumers in return, you instead lament that those same job-killing, price-inflating restrictions are supposedly not being equally applied to abortion clinics.

Armin Tamzarian on April 7, 2014 at 3:54 PM

lineholder on April 7, 2014 at 3:15 PM

My desire for leftists and commies to assume room temperature as soon as possible isn’t arbitrary. As I said those people are inherently evil. Maybe you think their intentions are good – I don’t. I think their intentions are misanthropic and evil and I wish them ill. Maybe you actually believe their lies when they say they are dong whatever for the benefit of whomever. I don’t believe their lies, and I no longer give them the benefit of the doubt after so many years of watching them destroy people, and communities, and this country.

earlgrey on April 7, 2014 at 4:33 PM

huh? pro-lifers support more inspections of abortion centers, in order to increase safety and cleanliness standards. so you’re saying that more inspections of abortion centers will lead to more unsafe abortions?? that clearly makes absolutely no sense whatsoever…

Sachiko on April 7, 2014 at 1:42 PM

But the agenda is to stop abortions – so why faux rationale offered when pushing for these regs?
Let me try and make it clearer –
for those who have pushed and advocated for these laws and regs…
would the victory be a clinic adhering to these ‘standards’, or would it be the clinic closing down because they are unable to afford the changes?
Of course a rhetorical questions – we both know the answer.

verbaluce on April 7, 2014 at 4:35 PM

Elevators get inspected every year. Imagine the uproar if someone got killed in an un-inspected elevator. And there’s gas pumps and restaurant kitchens and…..virtually everything except abortion “clinics”.

BillyRuffn on April 7, 2014 at 4:59 PM

All claims aside, the real difference between pro-choice and pro-life is safe abortion services vs. unsafe abortion services.

verbaluce on April 7, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Colossal idiocy on display, as per usual from Verbaldouche…The difference between pro-death and pro-life is one supports the right to live and y’all support the right to murder. There is no safe abortion service when the young baby dies. You are a ghoul.

bimmcorp on April 7, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Well, you see…I kind of think you are.
You wrap yourself in high minded self congratulatory back patting for your oh-so-’moral’ position, yet you can’t think past that to consider reality.
You want safe and legal services denied without bothering to think what the end result is of that. You think that result will be no abortion. You and those who ‘think’ alike can’t fathom your inhumanity and callousness, because you’re too busy being righteous while ignorantly damning others.
The pro-life movement bears huge responsibility for Gosnell.
It’s time for them to take a step back, and a deep breath..and to think.

verbaluce on April 7, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Babies in the womb aren’t welcome in New York.

– Andy “The Butcher” Cuomo

Dusty on April 7, 2014 at 5:24 PM

cptacek on April 7, 2014 at 2:26 PM

The Schaef on April 7, 2014 at 2:43 PM

Thank you for sharing. And I am sorry for your losses whether recently or years ago.

jazzuscounty on April 7, 2014 at 5:35 PM

This post is a good demonstration of how poisonous social “conservative” ideology is to the cause of limited government. Rather than pointing out that onerous inspection requirements and other regulatory burdens simply drive up the cost of goods and services such as food and tanning without providing a justifiably large benefit to consumers in return, you instead lament that those same job-killing, price-inflating restrictions are supposedly not being equally applied to abortion clinics.

Armin Tamzarian on April 7, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Right back atcha, bub. Liberals want to regulate the very air we exhale from our bodies and the two inch wide run off from the spring rain from the back 40, but under no circumstances want anyone poking their noses into certain “medical facilities”.

cptacek on April 7, 2014 at 5:38 PM

The pro-life movement bears huge responsibility for Gosnell.

verbaloon on April 7, 2014 at 5:00 PM

How so?

I would love to hear you tell us how the Republican pro-life movement was able to erect all of the legal barriers that forced poor women into Gosnell’s clinic.

Which was located in a Democrat City in a Democrat State.

F-

Del Dolemonte on April 7, 2014 at 6:50 PM

same job-killing, price-inflating restrictions are supposedly not being equally applied to abortion clinics.

Armin Tamzarian on April 7, 2014 at 3:54 PM

You have a stake in the baby killing game.

So let’s say I think your comment has just a little bias./

Your comments as usual are full of fallacious arguments. Look in the mirror….you are truly ill. I think you realize it but you don’t care. Another ghoul. I think you pay every day for your downright ugliness. I bet you’re not very liked.

CW on April 7, 2014 at 9:01 PM

The pro-life movement bears huge responsibility for Gosnell.

verbaluce on April 7, 2014 at 5:00 PM

lineholder on April 7, 2014 at 9:59 PM

The pro-life movement bears huge responsibility for Gosnell.

verbaluce on April 7, 2014 at 5:00 PM

What a gross falsehood this is!

I suppose it was the pro-life advocates on the right that caused pro-abort groups to bypass laws pertaining to patient safety as far back as the days of JANE, immediately after the passage of Roe v Wade.

That’s where they started bypassing the law where abortion is concerned, and they haven’t stopped since either.

Pretty obvious that the quality of care provided to females obtaining abortions does not now nor has it ever mattered to them.

lineholder on April 7, 2014 at 10:07 PM

Armin Tamzarian on April 7, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Do Conservative seek to protect and preserve the rule of law?

If Liberals want the abortion industry to be legally allowed to operate outside the scope of established laws protecting patient rights, then by all means, let them proceed in getting those laws established.

They won’t pursue it, though. It would deprive them of the “We’ll return to the days of coathangers if abortion is made illegal” narrative that they use to justify frightening people with every time they’re challenged.

lineholder on April 7, 2014 at 10:12 PM

earlgrey on April 7, 2014 at 4:33 PM

No, I don’t give them the benefit of the doubt. I can actually empathize with what you’re saying.

I guess it depends on how much you belief it is necessary for a person to guard their own heart, mind, spirit and soul against things that are of evil, and where you draw the lines on things of that sort.

lineholder on April 7, 2014 at 10:18 PM