Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on April 6, 2014 by Allahpundit

Can you hear the piteous weeping? The wronged tears? Those poor bigots are under attack. Those who are prejudiced against gay people are having their constitutional right to say so trampled. It’s a terrible injustice: you can’t believe that gay people are lesser without some pesky homosexual objecting and “bullying” you into believing that equality under the law is a venerable aim…

While there is nothing to celebrate in somebody losing their job, we should be celebrating that we have reached a time where homophobia is being questioned and challenged. Instead—please laugh or cry at this point—people bitch about their right to be homophobic being constrained

This conflation of the bully-turned-to-victim neatly clouds the admirable baseline mainstream America is edging towards: the “shame” axis around homosexuality has positively shifted from those who are gay to those who are anti-gay.

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App developers Hampton and Michael Catlin, a gay couple, distanced themselves from Mozilla after Eich’s hiring, a move that helped bring Eich’s support of Prop. 8 to light.

“This really was a personal statement of boycott, and it seems to be getting carried as if we are organizing a boycott or that we think Mozilla is evil or that we think Brendan Eich is the devil. None of those things are true,” Hampton Catlin tells Beta News, which broke the story. “We just were hurt as developers who were committing our time and energy to their platform, that they would go pick someone with an unresolved anti-same-sex-marriage controversy. If he had apologized years ago, this would be a non-issue.”

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The view that Eich was just expressing his opposition to marriage equality, a common stance at the time, strikes me as naive. Because Prop 8 is now dead, and because its passage was largely overshadowed by President Barack Obama’s election victory, it’s easy to forget the vicious tactics of the pro-Prop 8 campaign. Or, I should say, it’s easy to forget them if you’re not gay—because almost every gay person I know remembers the passage of Prop 8 as the most traumatic and degrading anti-gay event in recent American history…

This message of belittlement cut across pretty much every pro-Prop 8 ad—ads that ran incessantly in the state for months. The campaign’s strategy was to debase gay families as deviant and unhealthy while insinuating that gay people are engaged in a full-scale campaign to convert children to their cause. This strategy worked. And it worked because wealthy donors like Brendan Eich flooded the campaign with the money it needed to run ads like the ones above. Eich wasn’t just a casual opponent of marriage equality. He was a major contributor to the most vitriolic anti-gay campaign in American history, one that set the standard of homophobic propaganda that continues to this day. When we talk about Eich’s anti-gay stance, we aren’t just talking about abstract beliefs. We’re talking about concrete actions that harmed thousands of gay families and informed innumerable gay Americans that they were sinful, corrupted predators.

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Oddly, however, I don’t see defenders of Eich also criticizing the Boy Scouts for excluding gay men because the organization disagrees with their conduct and beliefs. Nor do I even see conservatives taking Mozilla’s rights as a private corporation seriously—a predictable hypocrisy made especially obnoxious in light of last week’s widespread right-wing praise of the corporate plaintiff’s claim in Hobby Lobby. This is the conservative double standard in the realm of corporate rights: When the corporation supports a right-wing pet project—say, denying women reproductive care—conservatives pen encomia to the First Amendment’s corporate protections. But when a corporation dares to support a progressive cause like gay rights, conservatives cry foul at its alleged censorship of individual views.

It’s really no surprise, of course, that the right wing views Mozilla’s objections to Eich’s anti-gay activities as censorship and Hobby Lobby’s objection to birth control as religious liberty. We’ve known all along that conservatives’ quiver of defenses for corporate rights have only been employed to further its own agenda. The right wing’s backlash over Mozilla’s move only further proves that opportunism, rather than principled dissent, drives its frantic charge for full corporate personhood. Keep that in mind as the conservative outrage machine takes aim at Mozilla for daring to exclude a man whose values and conduct it finds unacceptable.

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I get it. Brendan Eich is a bad man. So, don’t play golf with him, and don’t have a beer with him. You can even leave him off the invitation list for your birthday party. But, don’t hold all of Mozilla, and all of its employees, and the entire ecosystem of third-party developers who rely on the Firefox Web browser accountable just because you disagree with the views of one person who works at the company—even if he is the CEO.

Better yet—do invite Brendan Eich for a round of golf and a beer. Sit down and get to know the man and try to understand his position and why he holds the beliefs he does.

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Becker mentioned what she called a rebranding of the [gay-marriage] movement over the last five years, with two important components. First, gay marriage was framed in terms of family values. Second, advocates didn’t shame opponents and instead made sympathetic public acknowledgment of the journey that many Americans needed to complete in order to be comfortable with marriage equality.

There was no such acknowledgment from Mozilla employees and others who took to Twitter to condemn Eich and call for his head. Writing about that wrath in his blog, The Dish, Andrew Sullivan said that it disgusted him, “as it should disgust anyone interested in a tolerant and diverse society.” A leading supporter of gay marriage, Sullivan warned other supporters not to practice “a fanaticism more like the religious right than anyone else.”

I can’t get quite as worked up as he did. For one thing, prominent gay rights groups weren’t part of the Mozilla fray. For another, Mozilla isn’t the first company to make leadership decisions (or reconsiderations) with an eye toward the boss’s cultural mind-meld with the people below him or her. And if you believe that to deny a class of people the right to marry is to deem them less worthy, it’s indeed difficult to chalk up opposition to marriage equality as just another difference of opinion.

But it’s vital to remember how very recently so many of equality’s promoters, like Obama and Clinton, have come around and how relatively new this conversation remains. It’s crucial not to lose sight of how well the movement has been served by the less judgmental posture that Becker pointed out.

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Some of the very same people who have jumped up and down with delight as Brandon Eich lost his job will doubtless be backing Hillary Clinton for president in 2016 if she runs. The “Ready for Hillary” ranks are crowded with gay men – and good for them. But it’s worth considering some consistency here. If it is unconscionable to support a company whose CEO once donated to the cause against marriage equality, why is it not unconscionable to support a candidate who opposed marriage equality as recently as 2008, and who was an integral part of an administration that embraced the Defense Of Marriage Act, signed into law by Bill Clinton? How do you weigh the relative impact of a president strongly backing DOMA – even running ads touting his support for it in the South – and an executive who spent $1000 for an anti-marriage equality Proposition?

Hillary Clinton only declared her support for marriage equality in 2013. Before that, she opposed it. In 2000, she said that marriage “has a historic, religious and moral context that goes back to the beginning of time. And I think a marriage has always been between a man and a woman.” Was she then a bigot? On what conceivable grounds can the Democratic party support a candidate who until only a year ago was, according to the latest orthodoxy, the equivalent of a segregationist, and whose administration enacted more anti-gay laws and measures than any in American history?

There is a difference, of course, between Brendan Eich and Hillary Clinton. Eich has truly spoken of the pain he once caused and owned up to it[.]

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Yes, the culture war has been raging for a long time, except people didn’t notice it because it seemed to take place on the edges or in fringe settings. All the Eich affair did was make it obvious.

Ironically many people, even in the homosexual community, don’t want this culture war and are dismayed by the Eich witchunt. They don’t want it not only because … but I’ll get to that in a moment … especially since the Eich affair is not about gay marriage, except incidentally, any more than the Summers affair was about racism or feminism; or that Steyn’s suit has anything to do with warmism or denialism or the gunowners map was about school safety; or still less that the 2013 IRS persecution of Tea Party groups was to do with Citizen’s United.

The removal of Eich is about fascism. It’s about one group of people forcing everyone else to bow to their hat on a pole; it s about book burning, compelling obeisance to, as Jame Surowiecki put it, “a universal ideology” in a manner so bald that even those who might gain politically in the short term from it are horrified by its crudity.

Perceptive gays understand now, if they hadn’t noticed before, that a whole mechanism now exists for persecuting people whose views are deemed unacceptable. Today it is directed against Eich; once it was directed against Summers; on other occasions it was employed against Clarence Thomas. But sooner or later, probably sooner, they understand it will be directed against them — or us — or someone. And if it can get a corporate CEO who is widely regarded as the father of Javascript it can get pretty darned anyone.

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Welcome to the Liberal Gulag.

That term may be perverse, but it is not an exaggeration. Mr. Weinstein specifically called for political activists, ranging from commentators to think-tank researchers, to be locked in cages as punishment for their political beliefs. “Those denialists should face jail,” he wrote. “You still can’t” — banality alert! — “yell ‘fire’ in a crowded theater. You shouldn’t be able to yell ‘balderdash’ at 10,883 scientific journal articles a year.” “Balderdash” — a felony. At the risk of being repetitious, let’s dwell on that for a minute: The Left is calling on people to be prosecuted for speaking their minds regarding their beliefs on an important public-policy question that is, as a political matter, the subject of hot dispute. That is the stuff of Soviet repression…

“They think that to be a Fascist you must have some sort of shirt uniform, must drill and goose-step, must have a demonstrative salute, must hate the Jews, and believe in dictatorship,” John T. Flynn wrote many years ago. Mr. Flynn was an America First founder who had a high-profile falling out with the editors of this magazine back in 1955, but he offered some fruitful insights: “Fascism is not the result of dictatorship. . . . Dictatorship is the product of Fascism.” Mr. Flynn probably would not be surprised to see the Left coming around — again — on hating Jews, even if Occupy rituals have replaced the traditional pseudo-Roman salute. Their shirts come in many colors, but their true colors never change: an ugly, ignorant, power-hungry mob utterly committed to crushing dissent by any means it can. Mr. Weinstein and his ilk want to put us in camps, and crass totalitarians of similar stripe may be found everywhere from the executive suites at Mozilla to the halls of power at the IRS. It’s a shameful spectacle, and an unworthy one.

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I’m feelin’ ya.

Murphy9 on April 6, 2014 at 8:50 PM

I dunno. I post on other sites as well as yahoo. If I stopped to say something to every jerk on the internets I’d getting nothing else done.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 8:44 PM

I am old and have been around and one thing I have learned is that smart folks say “I dunno” or something similar with ease and folks that want to appear smart always have an answer.

Hey, just something I have noticed over time. BTW, I always have an answer! Chuckle!!

HonestLib on April 6, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Jay-Z causes controversy by wearing gaudy medallion of ‘Five Percent Nation’ group who believe whites are ‘wicked and weak’

The Brooklyn-born rapper wore a medallion representing the Five Percent Nation at a Nets game last week

One of the main tenets of the Nation of Islam offshoot is that white people are ‘weak and wicked’ and that black men hold the power of God

When asked if the medallion holds any importance to him, Jay-Z said: ‘A little bit’

Um, let us know if you see any white hoods at the CMAs, k? Otherwise, I will just ignore you as I have until now.

Resist We Much on April 6, 2014 at 8:50 PM

RATSO!

OmahaConservative on April 6, 2014 at 8:51 PM

She blaaaaaaaa’. She gon’ show whitey how it done, dawg. Daff’right.

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 8:51 PM

“The first lesson I learned from the Five Percent was simple: F–k white people. Seriously. White people are devils,” Knight, 36, who is white and converted to ­Islam as a teenager, once wrote.

So what exactly do Five Percenters believe?

“The rationale is that the black man is God and created the universe, and is physically stronger and intellectually stronger and more righteous naturally,” says Michael Muhammad Knight, an author of two books on the radical group.
“Whiteness is weak and wicked and inferior — basically just an errant child who needs to be corrected.”

The group was founded in 1964 in Harlem by Clarence Smith, who later changed his name to Allah, a former student of Malcolm X who disagreed with the Nation of Islam over the nature of God.

Smith rejected the notion of a supernatural deity and instead believed that all black men had God in them and that black women were “earths” who took on a complementary yet subordinate role to their gods.

The idea is empowering, Knight says.

Murphy9 on April 6, 2014 at 8:52 PM

I am so scared.

i_am_liberal on April 6, 2014 at 8:47 PM

That you are desperately typing tripe here proves it.

cozmo on April 6, 2014 at 8:52 PM

She BLAAAAAAAA’!
Dawg!

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 8:53 PM

BBL, gotta tend to my whitefish and asparagas dinner.

Murphy9 on April 6, 2014 at 8:53 PM

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Quiet, you!!!

ladyingray on April 6, 2014 at 8:53 PM

“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.” -Martin Luther King, Jr.

Where do today’s Democrats show they believe in this message? Minorities are labeled “race traitors” by leftists when they espouse conservative ideas, yet they complain and fail to understand why more minorities don’t associate in public with conservatives.

Until you admit this, i_am_liberal, there is no room for intellectual discussion. I doubt that’s what you’re looking for, anyway.

non-nonpartisan on April 6, 2014 at 8:53 PM

I wonder what that witless member of royalty would have to say if all us at hotair tried sneaking into his home and said it was an act of love? Does anyone think he would let us stay? This creep is becoming more like an inbred than even Prince Charles.

VorDaj on April 6, 2014 at 8:39 PM

He’d probably be cool with it as long as we agreed to do his yard and pool work for free, lived in the back and didn’t show our faces after 3:00 PM.

kcewa on April 6, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Oh, no way! If this cat thinks she’s getting any of my white-deva’d eggs, she cwazy!
Dawg!

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 8:55 PM

That Will Never Do – Magic Slim

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2014 at 8:56 PM

Um, let us know if you see any white hoods at the CMAs, k? Otherwise, I will just ignore you as I have until now.

Resist We Much on April 6, 2014 at 8:50 PM

YES!

{{{{{ Sophie Ro }}}}}

I mean — I agree with . . . that.

Hey, um — you have some busted links on that page thing. I was cruising by with my homies — I’m a pretty big deal — and I noticed. Left you a note.

Axe on April 6, 2014 at 8:56 PM

Well, thank God that HA is finally posting a thread about the gays and their needs! I think the HA drought on this issue has been about eight hours.

I’m disappointed that there’s been no threads about how Russia wants to invade Miami.

vlad martel on April 6, 2014 at 8:57 PM

How’s Mrs. Fred?

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Hi MG. Hope you are getting along ok with the shakin’ and all.

She’s still in hospital. Been nearly 3 weeks now. Still tryin’ to get infection under control amongst other problems.

Fred

jrsrigmvr on April 6, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Whatever.
Lubbock is actually getting RAIN!!!
*Lubbock has been hit by a drought.*

annoyinglittletwerp on April 6, 2014 at 8:41 PM

.
I’m happy for you. We have a surplus here and more tomorrow..

crankyoldlady on April 6, 2014 at 8:44 PM

.
What’s this I hear about Lubbock not having any “tornado sirens”?

listens2glenn on April 6, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Grateful Dead – Not Fade Away–Goin’ Down the Road Feeling Bad

American band, American land…

kcewa on April 6, 2014 at 8:58 PM

Do you like cowboy poetry?
Electrongod on April 6, 2014 at 8:50 PM

I don’t even know what that is but I love country music though. I am yet to hear a country music track I don’t like.

i_am_liberal on April 6, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Fred

jrsrigmvr on April 6, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Praying for Her. I know how tough infections can be.

kcewa on April 6, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Fun story. Went to go see Captain America with my son and during the movie there was a couple of shots of planes inside the Air and Space Museum and my son turns to me and whispers “there’s granddad’s plane”. Cool part of the story is not that the bird is one that he flew, but the exact plane he flew. Just by chance his plane ended up hanging from the ceiling. Son told the wife and made her smile.

HonestLib on April 6, 2014 at 9:00 PM

jrsrigmvr on April 6, 2014 at 8:57 PM

I’m sorry, indeed, to hear that she’s having such a rough time of it and still struggling, Fred. I’ve been thinking of you both and I’d hoped she’d be recovered and home by now. She’s a very strong woman and she’s got the love of a very good man.

I hope you’re taking good care of yourself while you’re taking care of her and the family, Fred.

Tell Mrs. Fred that I’m wishing her a swift and complete recovery and hope she’s home with you soon.

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2014 at 9:01 PM

I da blond-haired blue-eyed devah. Da blaaaack man da father of da earf!

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Rant 1–Diversity

I can’t stand this term. When I was in school, I had a variety of types of people in all my classes. It never made one bit of difference. PV=nRT, E=mc2, V=IR, and all the rest remained the same. Same with the other sciences. The only diversity I gave a damn about was how many different types of hawt chicks were in the class…

“Diversity” is just a cover term to justify some sort of utopian racial distribution in a group. It is otherwise meaningless. It is just backdoor affirmative action.

Doc Holliday on April 6, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Fun story. Went to go see Captain America with my son and during the movie there was a couple of shots of planes inside the Air and Space Museum and my son turns to me and whispers “there’s granddad’s plane”. Cool part of the story is not that the bird is one that he flew, but the exact plane he flew. Just by chance his plane ended up hanging from the ceiling. Son told the wife and made her smile.

HonestLib on April 6, 2014 at 9:00 PM

That’s really neat.And you didn’t know that?

crankyoldlady on April 6, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Oddly, however, I don’t see defenders of Eich also criticizing the Boy Scouts for excluding gay men because the organization disagrees with their conduct and beliefs. Nor do I even see conservatives taking Mozilla’s rights as a private corporation seriously—a predictable hypocrisy made especially obnoxious in light of last week’s widespread right-wing praise of the corporate plaintiff’s claim in Hobby Lobby. This is the conservative double standard in the realm of corporate rights: When the corporation supports a right-wing pet project—say, denying women reproductive care—conservatives pen encomia to the First Amendment’s corporate protections. But when a corporation dares to support a progressive cause like gay rights, conservatives cry foul at its alleged censorship of individual views.

What can be said in response to this?

libfreeordie on April 6, 2014 at 9:02 PM

I don’t even know what that is but I love country music though. I am yet to hear a country music track I don’t like.

i_am_liberal on April 6, 2014 at 8:59 PM

I’m a white chick and I LOATHE country music. What is the word for a white ‘Ahhntie Thomasina’?

These preconceived notions and stereotypes really must end.

Resist We Much on April 6, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Just occurred to me that I’m shoveling this down with no idea what it is.

. . . it’s wrapped in a tortilla, though, so –heh, it must be food. :)

Well, here’s hoping.

*clink*

Axe on April 6, 2014 at 9:03 PM

HonestLib on April 6, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Useless information without more detail.

Meanie!

cozmo on April 6, 2014 at 9:03 PM

What can be said in response to this?

libfreeordie on April 6, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Hold it. Once again: You said you had papers to grade, people to annoy. And you said you were never coming back WTF, man?

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 9:03 PM

I da blond-haired blue-eyed devah. Da blaaaack man da father of da earf!

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 9:01 PM

White abolitionists were devils too, I’m sure.

non-nonpartisan on April 6, 2014 at 9:03 PM

And you said you were never coming back WTF, man?

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Leftists lie, constantly.

cozmo on April 6, 2014 at 9:04 PM

I’ll Take Care of You – Hart/Bonamassa

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2014 at 9:05 PM

I’m still waiting on my answers, i_am_liberal. Just waiting….

Doc Holliday on April 6, 2014 at 9:05 PM

What can be said in response to this?

libfreeordie on April 6, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Strictly speaking, there is no First Amendment argument to be made against Mozilla.

On the other hand, what does it say about the Diversity and Tolerance Brigade that they have become that which they despised?

Resist We Much on April 6, 2014 at 9:05 PM

When do you let junk like that pass, and when do you make a point that what some folks say ain’t cool?

HonestLib on April 6, 2014 at 8:42 PM

I say call’em as you see’em, Honest One.

It keeps the internet damninteresting.

lynncgb on April 6, 2014 at 9:06 PM

Um, let us know if you see any white hoods at the CMAs, k? Otherwise, I will just ignore you as I have until now.

Resist We Much on April 6, 2014 at 8:50 PM

YES!

{{{{{ Sophie Ro }}}}}

I mean — I agree with . . . that.

Hey, um — you have some busted links on that page thing. I was cruising by with my homies — I’m a pretty big deal — and I noticed. Left you a note.

Axe on April 6, 2014 at 8:56 PM

I have a funny joke about the Pope looking like he is a hat change away from looking like a grand wizard, but tonight looks like a tough crowd and the veal ain’t selling and I will only be here tonight. Oh, and tip the wait staff.

HonestLib on April 6, 2014 at 9:06 PM

If he had apologized years ago, this would be a non-issue.”

I am so f’ing sick of this. Why does anyone who doesn’t agree with gay marriage have to apologize to these people for anything? I’m tired of all the “politically correct” groups shoving their agendas into the faces of the rest of us and demanding we see it their way or else apologize.. or be labeled bigots, homophobes, sexists, etc. This country is going to hell in a handbasket..

vamp57mw on April 6, 2014 at 9:06 PM

What can be said in response to this?

libfreeordie on April 6, 2014 at 9:02 PM

I hope Mozilla is enjoying the backlash it’s receiving. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of lunatics.

non-nonpartisan on April 6, 2014 at 9:06 PM

White abolitionists were devils too, I’m sure.

non-nonpartisan on April 6, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Here’s the problem: You all attempt to use reason with Chioma and she simply does not have the mental capacity to understand.

Me? I’ll go with talking down to her kind. It’s much more fun than getting yourself worked up over an undesirable.

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 9:06 PM

“Diversity” is just a cover term to justify some sort of utopian racial distribution in a group. It is otherwise meaningless. It is just backdoor affirmative action.

Doc Holliday on April 6, 2014 at 9:02 PM

+1

bazil9 on April 6, 2014 at 9:07 PM

I hope Mozilla is enjoying the backlash it’s receiving. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of lunatics.

non-nonpartisan on April 6, 2014 at 9:06 PM

I installed Opera, but I’m still using Firefox.

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Ratso’s mom just got home. We are thrilled, so far I ain’t in trouble. I used the french fry scooper today to break it back in…

OmahaConservative on April 6, 2014 at 9:08 PM

I installed Opera, but I’m still using Firefox.

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 9:08 PM

So am I…

OmahaConservative on April 6, 2014 at 9:09 PM

I did get busted smoking inside…

OmahaConservative on April 6, 2014 at 9:09 PM

Dammit! What the hell am I gonna do with no Walking Dead?!?!?

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 9:09 PM

Good evening Jackster!

bazil9 on April 6, 2014 at 9:09 PM

jrsrigmvr on April 6, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Oh, and that shakin’ doesn’t bother me, Fred. Those little one’s don’t even register after living in California. :)

When it gets up to 5.0 or so, I’ll probably take notice. ;)

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2014 at 9:11 PM

You white and straight people* better check yourself.

That’s all I’m saying.

brb — need DP.

*Includes some Hispanics. Check with your local Diversity is Unity office for details.

Axe on April 6, 2014 at 9:11 PM

That’s really neat.And you didn’t know that?

crankyoldlady on April 6, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Yea I knew. Tomorrow morning I will tell you a cool story that relates. Too many hard tails here at night to share sappy stories with! Chuckle.

HonestLib on April 6, 2014 at 9:11 PM

So am I…

OmahaConservative on April 6, 2014 at 9:09 PM

I don’t like the way it scrolls and I cannot find a bookmarks tab.

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 9:11 PM

Fun story. Went to go see Captain America with my son and during the movie there was a couple of shots of planes inside the Air and Space Museum and my son turns to me and whispers “there’s granddad’s plane”. Cool part of the story is not that the bird is one that he flew, but the exact plane he flew. Just by chance his plane ended up hanging from the ceiling. Son told the wife and made her smile.

HonestLib on April 6, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Cool. ;)

We saw the movie Thursday night – was pretty good, better than I expected.

Midas on April 6, 2014 at 9:12 PM

bazil9 on April 6, 2014 at 9:09 PM

Good evening, B9. :) It’s great to see you, as always. :)

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2014 at 9:12 PM

Here’s the problem: You all attempt to use reason with Chioma and she simply does not have the mental capacity to understand.

Me? I’ll go with talking down to her kind. It’s much more fun than getting yourself worked up over an undesirable.

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 9:06 PM

I have not been exerting myself, and I am not worked up. i_am_liberal doesn’t want to be reasonable, and I’m fine with that.

non-nonpartisan on April 6, 2014 at 9:12 PM

thatsafaouctjack on April 6, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Praying for Her. I know how tough infections can be.

kcewa on April 6, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Thank you

Fred

jrsrigmvr on April 6, 2014 at 9:12 PM

Good evening, B9. :) It’s great to see you, as always. :)

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2014 at 9:12 PM

You as well. =)

bazil9 on April 6, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Stevie Nicks on the CMAs? I don’t really get it.

Not a great show so far…

Fallon on April 6, 2014 at 9:13 PM

i_am_liberal on April 6, 2014 at 8:38 PM

LL Cool J is there. Does he look afraid to you?

ladyingray on April 6, 2014 at 9:13 PM

It is just backdoor affirmative action.

Doc Holliday on April 6, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Apropos of this thread.

Midas on April 6, 2014 at 9:14 PM

YES!

{{{{{ Sophie Ro }}}}}

I mean — I agree with . . . that.

Hey, um — you have some busted links on that page thing. I was cruising by with my homies — I’m a pretty big deal — and I noticed. Left you a note.

Axe on April 6, 2014 at 8:56 PM

Hiya, luv. How are you this fine, delightful evening?

With which post are you having trouble? I haven’t checked my blog or email today (ha! on the email part since you already know it might not be read until next year or something. hehehe).

Anyhoo, I’ve spent most of the day reading. Disinformation by Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa (MUST READ) and Our Mutual Friend, which is weird because I don’t read a lot of fiction nor can I remember the last time that I picked up a Dickens book.

Resist We Much on April 6, 2014 at 9:14 PM

I made some homemade ginger syrup today. A shot of Captain Morgan Special Stock, 1/4 c ginger syrup and the juice from a whole lime… over ice. Quite nice.

Fallon on April 6, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Axe on April 6, 2014 at 9:11 PM

KK. :) I’ll be over hear chanting ‘happy, happy, joy, joy, diversity is our hope and joy’ per regulation #3,429,672… ’till you get back. :)

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2014 at 9:15 PM

What can be said in response to this?

libfreeordie on April 6, 2014 at 9:02 PM

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I hope Mozilla is enjoying the backlash it’s receiving. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of lunatics.

non-nonpartisan on April 6, 2014 at 9:06 PM

.
Can anyone say “Carbonite“?

listens2glenn on April 6, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Oddly, however, I don’t see defenders of Eich also criticizing the Boy Scouts for excluding gay men because the organization disagrees with their conduct and beliefs. Nor do I even see conservatives taking Mozilla’s rights as a private corporation seriously—a predictable hypocrisy made especially obnoxious in light of last week’s widespread right-wing praise of the corporate plaintiff’s claim in Hobby Lobby. This is the conservative double standard in the realm of corporate rights: When the corporation supports a right-wing pet project—say, denying women reproductive care—conservatives pen encomia to the First Amendment’s corporate protections. But when a corporation dares to support a progressive cause like gay rights, conservatives cry foul at its alleged censorship of individual views.

Good night, nurse! What a moron!

One steaming pile of stupid at a time, please…

Oddly, however, I don’t see defenders of Eich also criticizing the Boy Scouts for excluding gay men because the organization disagrees with their conduct and beliefs.

No, what you see is parents pulling their boys out of the organization in droves.

Nor do I even see conservatives taking Mozilla’s rights as a private corporation seriously—a predictable hypocrisy made especially obnoxious in light of last week’s widespread right-wing praise of the corporate plaintiff’s claim in Hobby Lobby.

They have every right to fire someone. The problem here is that what he did had nothing to do with his employment there. And what’s more unsettling is that it was the newly weaponized-for-political-purposes IRS spilling the beans that led to the whole thing in the first place. In the case of Hobby Lobby, it’s not just bullying by the gay mafia that has a company bending over and grabbing their ankles; it’s the full force of the federal government. Big difference.

When the corporation supports a right-wing pet project—say, denying women reproductive care—conservatives pen encomia to the First Amendment’s corporate protections.

Ah, yes! The usual leftist cannard that refusing to pay for something is the same as denying access to it. By that logic, my employer wants to deny me my Second Amendment rights (which, unlike the birth control, is actually covered in the Constitution) because they refuse to provide me with firearms.

But when a corporation dares to support a progressive cause like gay rights, conservatives cry foul at its alleged censorship of individual views.

That company can take whatever position on whatever issue they want. That’s not the problem. It’s when they push someone out because of pressure from an outside group with absolutely no personal stake in their position. That’s right. The gay mafia has nno personal stake in how any private company chooses to take a position on the matter. They can always take their business elsewhere.

CurtZHP on April 6, 2014 at 9:15 PM

I have not been exerting myself, and I am not worked up. i_am_liberal doesn’t want to be reasonable, and I’m fine with that.

non-nonpartisan on April 6, 2014 at 9:12 PM

She is Chioma. A Haiti-an immigrant. Probably one of those boat peoples. She’s been liberal4life and most recently LiberalRules. Ed just banned her again last month.

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Here’s the problem: You all attempt to use reason with Chioma and she simply does not have the mental capacity to understand.

Me? I’ll go with talking down to her kind. It’s much more fun than getting yourself worked up over an undesirable.

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 9:06 PM

What’s a ‘Chioma’?

Midas on April 6, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Prayers ascending, Fred…

OmahaConservative on April 6, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Ah, that’s it’s name irl?

Midas on April 6, 2014 at 9:16 PM

I installed Opera, but I’m still using Firefox.

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 9:08 PM

I’m not giving up FF over this. I fully support anyone else who wants to.

I don’t like Opera, nor Google Chrome, nor any other variation of Chromium. FF lets its users have complete control of how it looks and functions, and I like that.

non-nonpartisan on April 6, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Fallon on April 6, 2014 at 9:15 PM

YUM!

bazil9 on April 6, 2014 at 9:17 PM

Beautifully Broken – Govt Mule

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2014 at 9:17 PM

What a joke. Karl tries to draw an analogy between SSM and interracial marriage. Race is an immutable characteristic. We don’t know what homosexuality is, but that’s beside the point because it’s the CONDUCT, not the existence, that’s objectionable.

When are we going to hear from doctors about how healthful sodomy is?

BuckeyeSam on April 6, 2014 at 9:17 PM

I’m not giving up FF over this. I fully support anyone else who wants to.

I don’t like Opera, nor Google Chrome, nor any other variation of Chromium. FF lets its users have complete control of how it looks and functions, and I like that.

non-nonpartisan on April 6, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Agreed. FF is the best browser ever…

OmahaConservative on April 6, 2014 at 9:17 PM

Racist singing racist song.

RickB on April 6, 2014 at 9:18 PM

YUM!

bazil9 on April 6, 2014 at 9:17 PM

Let me pour you one.

*clink*

Fallon on April 6, 2014 at 9:18 PM

What’s a ‘Chioma’?

Midas on April 6, 2014 at 9:16 PM

That’s her real first name. She’s on Twitter as liberal4life. If you think she sounds intelligent, you should read her followers.

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 9:19 PM

Magic Sam – That’s All I Need

kcewa on April 6, 2014 at 9:19 PM

jrsrigmvr on April 6, 2014 at 8:57 PM

I’m sorry, indeed, to hear that she’s having such a rough time of it and still struggling, Fred. I’ve been thinking of you both and I’d hoped she’d be recovered and home by now. She’s a very strong woman and she’s got the love of a very good man.

I hope you’re taking good care of yourself while you’re taking care of her and the family, Fred.

Tell Mrs. Fred that I’m wishing her a swift and complete recovery and hope she’s home with you soon.

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Prayers said for Mrs. Fred.

…And Mr. Fred.

climbnjump on April 6, 2014 at 9:20 PM

bazil9 on April 6, 2014 at 9:17 PM

Let me pour you one.

*clink*

Fallon on April 6, 2014 at 9:18 PM

Thx Fallon… =)
I love a ginger and Capt. Homemade ale must really make it extra tasty.
*clink*

bazil9 on April 6, 2014 at 9:21 PM

That’s her real first name. She’s on Twitter as liberal4life. If you think she sounds intelligent, you should read her followers.

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 9:19 PM

I can only imagine.

Midas on April 6, 2014 at 9:21 PM

Hiya, luv. How are you this fine, delightful evening?

With which post are you having trouble? I haven’t checked my blog or email today (ha! on the email part since you already know it might not be read until next year or something. hehehe).

Anyhoo, I’ve spent most of the day reading. Disinformation by Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa (MUST READ) and Our Mutual Friend, which is weird because I don’t read a lot of fiction nor can I remember the last time that I picked up a Dickens book.

Resist We Much on April 6, 2014 at 9:14 PM

I’m fantastic, if you’re here tonight. :)

re. the site, It’s no big thing. At the bottom of Pelosi’s latest, greatest hits, the links to related posts actually link to the editor instead of where you wanted them. :) No reason to mess up a fantastic skipping the blog and email day. :) I wouldn’t, anyway.

. . . have to go dig through your book references a sec

Axe on April 6, 2014 at 9:21 PM

I’m still waiting on my answers, i_am_liberal. Just waiting….
Doc Holliday on April 6, 2014 at 9:05 PM

A pointless exercise because you will have an excuse for any example I give. One question you do have to ask yourself is this though, why do 95% of blacks who tend to be very socially conservative and hardworking BTW tend to vote against a party that claims to be for those things? If your answer is well they are addicted to government handouts then I don’t know what else to tell you.

i_am_liberal on April 6, 2014 at 9:21 PM

I installed Opera, but I’m still using Firefox.

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 9:08 PM

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So am I…

OmahaConservative on April 6, 2014 at 9:09 PM

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So am I . . . . . but keep that to yourselves, ’cause I don’t want anyone thinking I’m a “closet supporter” of gays.

listens2glenn on April 6, 2014 at 9:21 PM

LL Cool J is there. Does he look afraid to you?

ladyingray on April 6, 2014 at 9:13 PM

LL only looks black. He’s really a honkey, according to people like i_am_liberal.

Anyway, I’m so racist, when I noticed that the audience wasn’t 100% white, I stopped watching.

non-nonpartisan on April 6, 2014 at 9:21 PM

Wait, wait – that nitwit is actually equating the Eich ousting with the Boy Scouts not wanting gay men as troop leaders of young boys? *Really*?

Is there a leftist out there that is capable of expressing an intelligent thought?

Midas on April 6, 2014 at 9:23 PM

I am not about to flip out and give up features I need and appreciate over something like this. The whole computer industry is liberal and crazy. I did register my complaints, however…

OmahaConservative on April 6, 2014 at 9:25 PM

You would think Chioma and her kind would attempt to fix Africa before wreaking havoc and destruction here. There’s a continent that’s run correctly!

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 9:25 PM

listens2glenn on April 6, 2014 at 9:21 PM

So am I.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 6, 2014 at 9:25 PM

What’s a ‘Chioma’?

Midas on April 6, 2014 at 9:16 PM

That’s her real first name. She’s on Twitter as liberal4life. If you think she sounds intelligent, you should read her followers.

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 9:19 PM

Wasn’t Rachel Jeantel also a Haitian immigrant? Let see, liberal4life disappeared during the whole GZ affair. Maybe, she was getting her nails done for court.

Speaking of the recent dearly departed from Court TV

Rachel Jeantel has a new job. She’s become one of the translators at the United Nations. Her first day on the job went like this:

Senegalese Ambassador: ‘What did the Uzbek Ambassador say?’

Rachel Jeantel: ‘I don’t know. I don’t hear cursive, Mr AssHO!’

I’s bad and nu skool. lolz

Resist We Much on April 6, 2014 at 9:26 PM

A pointless exercise because you will have an excuse for any example I give.

i_am_liberal on April 6, 2014 at 9:21 PM

Translation: “I’ve got nothing. You will refute my redundant, tired, ignorant, biased, bigoted and misinformed soundbites with facts, and I will be embarrassed further.”

Midas on April 6, 2014 at 9:27 PM

i_am_liberal on April 6, 2014 at 8:38 PM
LL Cool J is there. Does he look afraid to you?
ladyingray on April 6, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Interesting. I haven’t seen him there.. If he truly is, that is good news.

i_am_liberal on April 6, 2014 at 9:27 PM

A pointless exercise because you will have an excuse for any example I give. One question you do have to ask yourself is this though, why do 95% of blacks who tend to be very socially conservative and hardworking BTW tend to vote against a party that claims to be for those things? If your answer is well they are addicted to government handouts then I don’t know what else to tell you.

i_am_liberal on April 6, 2014 at 9:21 PM

As I said you would, you ducked the question. Here they are again, if you’d like to give it another try…

Ok, so would you like to provide specific instances of how the tea party is “anti minority” or are you just going to call names? And who is “we” as there are black and other minority members of the tea party?

I’ve got the feeling you’ll be a lot like nonpartisan and just duck the questions.

Doc Holliday on April 6, 2014 at 9:27 PM

I made some homemade ginger syrup today. A shot of Captain Morgan Special Stock, 1/4 c ginger syrup and the juice from a whole lime… over ice. Quite nice.

Fallon on April 6, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Have one for me as I have never had such a thing. Sounds different.

HonestLib on April 6, 2014 at 9:27 PM

Resist We Much on April 6, 2014 at 9:26 PM

liberal4life was banned. Ed recently banned LiberalRules, but it’s apparent she banked more than one name last go-round.

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 9:28 PM

Is there a leftist out there that is capable of expressing an intelligent thought?

Midas on April 6, 2014 at 9:23 PM

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Some conservatives believe they’re “mutually exclusive”, but it all comes down to the definitions of “leftist” and “intelligent thought” … and possibly the definition of “expressing”.

listens2glenn on April 6, 2014 at 9:28 PM

I am not about to flip out and give up features I need and appreciate over something like this. The whole computer industry is liberal and crazy. I did register my complaints, however…

OmahaConservative on April 6, 2014 at 9:25 PM

;*shrug*

I’ve been using Opera for two days, and not missing any FF ‘features’. Maybe there was more there than I was using, hehe.

Midas on April 6, 2014 at 9:28 PM

Now. Where’d libie get off to?

Lanceman on April 6, 2014 at 9:29 PM

;*shrug*

I’ve been using Opera for two days, and not missing any FF ‘features’. Maybe there was more there than I was using, hehe.

Midas on April 6, 2014 at 9:28 PM

I use Adblock plus, Do Not Track Me and noscript…

OmahaConservative on April 6, 2014 at 9:30 PM

Damn that was some good whitefish.

Murphy9 on April 6, 2014 at 9:30 PM

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