Great news. Kentucky jail signing up exiting inmates for Obamacare

posted at 5:01 pm on April 6, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

Now this is a complete stroke of genius which I couldn’t have cooked up for a political fiction novel. Down in Louisville, as prisoners are being discharged from jail, they’re getting a little something extra by way of a going away present. They’re being signed up for Obamacare.

After three months in jail on a theft charge, Vincent Garcia had prepared last week to collect his wallet and keys and turn in his orange scrubs upon release.

But the 26-year-old will leave jail with something else — free health insurance.

Louisville Metro Department of Corrections last week began holding daily sign-ups for exiting inmates, and Garcia was among those qualifying for the newly expanded Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act.

Now, I know what you’re thinking here… But wait. Obamacare is already flooding the Medicaid rolls and these people are unlikely to pay anything into the system. Won’t this just bloat the system even further and drive it toward insolvency faster? And a lot of working people still can’t afford their rising premium costs. Won’t there be an outcry over these convicts getting it for free?

Well, not to worry. You’re right! But nobody cares! Well, I guess Mitch McConnell does.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said signing up those leaving jail or prison will add burdens to an already strained Medicaid program that is hard pressed to find enough doctors willing to accept Medicaid patients.

“This is yet another disturbing aspect of a profoundly troubling piece of legislation,” said McConnell.

Federal rules ban use of Medicaid while someone is incarcerated, but that doesn’t apply to inmates hospitalized for at least 24 hours. And all prisoners are constitutionally guaranteed health care while behind bars.

Instead of “navigators” being trained to sign people up, Kentucky has brought in some kynectors to sign up the inmates. (Get it? Kynectors? That’s hilarious.) So fear not… we should blow past any projected Obamacare enrollment numbers in no time flat. All is well, citizens!


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LegendHasIt on April 6, 2014 at 5:06 PM

I suspect some portion were released because they signed up for slavery.

BobMbx on April 6, 2014 at 5:07 PM

And the scary part is, both Liberal newspapers (Lexington and Louisville) here in Kentucky are crowing about this *victory*.

They actually think it is a good thing, along with giving felons their right to vote back the instant they are released from prison.

Johnnyreb on April 6, 2014 at 5:07 PM

you can get out of prison….if
you sign up for ohBumblecare,,,

sounds like a good deal..

going2mars on April 6, 2014 at 5:08 PM

We have a lot of whiners, but we seem powerless to change anything.

tomas on April 6, 2014 at 5:10 PM

I tell you what, why doesn’t HotAir just go into full Re-elect Mitch McConnell mode from now till November. Quit playing this stupid little game where you insert the wonderfulness of him in most every post. It would be a lot more honest then this cr*p.

lowandslow on April 6, 2014 at 5:12 PM

We can safely assume that these ObamaCare signups are not being done via the perpetually-broken web site. If they were, these prisoners would essentially be stuck serving life sentences.

clayj on April 6, 2014 at 5:13 PM

How about signing up all the members of America’s only native criminal class, congress, for ObumblerCare?

VorDaj on April 6, 2014 at 5:14 PM

They rounded up illegals and signed them up.

crankyoldlady on April 6, 2014 at 5:15 PM

Get out of jail “free” healthcare

Philly on April 6, 2014 at 5:16 PM

I imagine they get them signed up for all sorts of freebies like food stamps etc.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 5:17 PM

honey.. re-fire the meth lab daddy’s coming home…

and

if it blows up the house again…i’m covered..!!

going2mars on April 6, 2014 at 5:18 PM

It’s NOT free. They wont pay for long.

TX-96 on April 6, 2014 at 5:21 PM

How many dead have been enrolled?

Ruckus_Tom on April 6, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Old man Jazz Shaw is making it like those enrolled in Medicaid were counted as part of the seven plus million people who were enrolled in private health insurance. Which is grasping at straws to say the least. Even if Kentucky were to enroll millions of inmates to Medicaid it wouldn’t have been counted as part of the 7.1 million who signed up for healthcare in the private market. So the 7.1 million figure was reached quickly, w/o inmates or poor people enrolling in Medicaid.
The number of people signed up for healthcare through Medicaid were more than 3 million, and that’s w/o the participation of 24 GOP run states in the system. That brings Obamacare enrollment to more than 10 million people in just 6 months! Let that sink in a little bit Righties!

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Instead of “navigators” being trained to sign people up, Kentucky has brought in some kynectors to sign up the inmates. (Get it? Kynectors? That’s hilarious.) So fear not… we should blow past any projected Obamacare enrollment numbers in no time flat. All is well, citizens!

How long until some of the inmates figure out there is a lot of money to be made by becoming ‘navigators’ and harvesting personal information from the poor schmucks they are helping sign up?

s1im on April 6, 2014 at 5:43 PM

Nobody can do anything about it.
So should anyone care?

albill on April 6, 2014 at 5:47 PM

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Let’s hear it for another HA Open Enrollment troll!

Yay!

BigAlSouth on April 6, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Let that sink in a little bit Righties!

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM

And the mandates are still delayed till 2016. Let that sink in, lefties!

BobMbx on April 6, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM

You’re full of shit, of course. But don’t let that stop you from letting it squeeze out of every orifice in your head.

Midas on April 6, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM

How many of that “7.1 million” will pay their premium genius?

BeachBum on April 6, 2014 at 5:59 PM

That brings Obamacare enrollment to more than 10 million people in just 6 months! Let that sink in a little bit Righties!

Now, bow to my Cult Leader!

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Fixed.

Even your Cult Leader’s own website (whitehouse.gov) says you’re a Liar, but of course Lies are all you have. They only claim a number of 7 million enrollements.

Now, if you want us to stop laughing at you, please tell us what percentage of those who have enrolled have actually paid their first month’s premiums.

Take your time.

Oh, and

F-

Del Dolemonte on April 6, 2014 at 6:03 PM

That brings Obamacare enrollment to more than 10 million people in just 6 months! Let that sink in a little bit Righties!

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Nice try Jethro. Out of your 10million, only maybe 4 million have certificates of insurance, and 3 million of them are Medicaid. Good luck to all of them when they try to get some medical care.

NOMOBO on April 6, 2014 at 6:03 PM

BigAlSouth on April 6, 2014 at 5:50 PM

I may not comment on here that often, but I’ve been a member for 3 years now and been following the website since 2008. So if you don’t have anything to add to the debate, keep calm learn something

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:03 PM

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Let’s hear it for another HA Open Enrollment troll!

Yay!

BigAlSouth on April 6, 2014 at 5:50 PM

No, this Unit has been around longer. It was boring us before the most recent batch came aboard.

Del Dolemonte on April 6, 2014 at 6:04 PM

Aren’t these guys more than likely headed into Medicaid as opposed to going into the insurance market?

BuckeyeSam on April 6, 2014 at 6:04 PM

So if you don’t have anything to add to the debate, keep calm learn something

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:03 PM

All we’ve learned from you so far is that you have no problem with lying.

Care to entertain us with some actual facts?

Del Dolemonte on April 6, 2014 at 6:05 PM

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM

So, 3 million more on Medicaid, another 80% receiving subsidies….

Who is paying for it? The people that lost their previous insurance that they where happy with. Paying more for sh!tter coverage.

Barred on April 6, 2014 at 6:06 PM

But the 26-year-old will leave jail with something else — free health insurance.

Louisville Metro Department of Corrections last week began holding daily sign-ups for exiting inmates, and Garcia was among those qualifying for the newly expanded Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act

…it seems as if they are going out of their way…to bankrupt Medicaid as quickly as possible!

KOOLAID2 on April 6, 2014 at 6:07 PM

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM

Can you share your source data?
Thanks.

Mimzey on April 6, 2014 at 6:08 PM

How many of that “7.1 million” will pay their premium genius?

BeachBum on April 6, 2014 at 5:59 PM

We don’t know it for sure, but insurers estimate about 10-15% enrollees haven’t paid their premiums, yet. That means more 80% of customers already paid their premiums.

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:10 PM

keep calm learn something

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:03 PM

Aint nobody with two or more brains cells going to be learning nothing from you Salahdumdum..

oscarwilde on April 6, 2014 at 6:11 PM

All we’ve learned from you so far is that you have no problem with lying.

Del Dolemonte on April 6, 2014 at 6:05 PM

Well the lying is pretty much par for the course for someone with a nic of Salahuddin. Isn’t that what the religion of pieces calls taqiyya?

BeachBum on April 6, 2014 at 6:13 PM

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:10 PM

Funny, I’ve read in numerous articles that it’s more like 15 to 20%, nice little shaving of your facts jack.

BeachBum on April 6, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014

You received your talking points I see.

Get out there boy and do your thing! Please make sure the Dems run on this beautiful think called the ACA aka Obamacare!

CW on April 6, 2014 at 6:15 PM

think= thing

CW on April 6, 2014 at 6:16 PM

But the 26-year-old will leave jail with something else — free health insurance.

Uh why are they signing him up for Obamacare? Isn’t he on his parents insurance at age 26?

Johnnyreb on April 6, 2014 at 6:16 PM

Getting out of jail and being dumped into Medicaid…

Wouldn’t that be considered cruel and unusual punishment?

MichaelGabriel on April 6, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM

 
Let’s hear it for another HA Open Enrollment troll!
 
Yay!
 
BigAlSouth on April 6, 2014 at 5:50 PM

 
No, this Unit has been around longer. It was boring us before the most recent batch came aboard.
 
Del Dolemonte on April 6, 2014 at 6:04 PM

 
+1. Y’all keep calm learn something this guy.
 

There no such thing as “persecuted Christians” in the middle east.
 
Salahuddin on February 25, 2012 at 10:12 AM

 
I’m certain understanding Obamacare can count on equally sound.

rogerb on April 6, 2014 at 6:19 PM

So, 3 million more on Medicaid, another 80% receiving subsidies….

Who is paying for it? The people that lost their previous insurance that they where happy with. Paying more for sh!tter coverage.

Barred on April 6, 2014 at 6:06 PM

If it was up to me, we would have a Single-payer in which everybody participate and pays into through income tax. Private organizations will deliver the care, government will guarantee it.

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:20 PM

Let’s not forget about all the “undocumented” that they were signing up at the last minute at the Mexican embassies. Ain’t life grand.

BeachBum on April 6, 2014 at 6:21 PM

Facts:

Quinnipiac University. March 26-31, 2014. N=1,578 registered voters nationwide. Margin of error ± 2.5.

“Do you support or oppose the health care law passed by Barack Obama and Congress in 2010?”

Support: 41%
Oppose: 55%

The 41% support number is 4 points lower than this same poll’s results a year ago.

CBS News Poll. March 20-23, 2014. N=1,097 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.

“From what you’ve heard or read, do you approve or disapprove of the health care law that was enacted in 2010?”

Approve: 41%
Disapprove: 53%

Del Dolemonte on April 6, 2014 at 6:22 PM

Salahuddin, Jimmy Fallon would like a word with you.

“The White House says it has surpassed its goal for people enrolled in Obamacare. It’s amazing what you can achieve when you make something mandatory and fine people if they don’t do it and then keep extending the deadline for months,” Fallon quipped. “It’s like a Cinderella story. It’s just a beautiful thing. You make everyone do it.”

“If you still haven’t enrolled, you might have to pay a penalty called the ‘Individual Shared Responsibility Payment,’ which is 1 percent of your salary,” he continued. “Then Americans said, ‘Hey, good thing I don’t have a job.’”

You guys are a hoot. You have the power of the government, the IRS included, and you still have about 40,000,000 uninsured. You guys are genius. /

CW on April 6, 2014 at 6:23 PM

Uh why are they signing him up for Obamacare? Isn’t he on his parents insurance at age 26?

Johnnyreb on April 6, 2014 at 6:16 PM

Mom is probably already on Medicaid. Sperm Donor- who knows?

Pless1foEngrish on April 6, 2014 at 6:24 PM

If it was up to me, we would have a Single-payer in which everybody participate and pays into through income tax. Private organizations will deliver the care, government will guarantee it.

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:20 PM

Big surprise there. You have yet , for one day in your life, had an original thought.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 6:24 PM

rogerb on April 6, 2014 at 6:19 PM

This guy seems like a real peach. Figures he’s all in for his messiah the boy king who loves him some Muslim brotherhood.

BeachBum on April 6, 2014 at 6:25 PM

If it was up to me, we would have a Single-payer in which everybody participate and pays into through income tax.
 
Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:20 PM

 
So you support a massive increase in taxes on the poor who currently have no tax liability or even somehow receive money at tax time?

rogerb on April 6, 2014 at 6:25 PM

If it was up to me, we would have a Single-payer in which everybody participate and pays into through income tax. Private organizations will deliver the care, government will guarantee it.

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:20 PM

Big surprise there. You have yet , for one day in your life, had an original thought.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 6:24 PM

I should have pointed out as well that we see that little comment from you losers and leeches on a regular basis as you know down deep the ACA is one massive clusterfark.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 6:25 PM

If it was up to me, we would have a Single-payer in which everybody participate and pays into through income tax. Private organizations will deliver the care, government will guarantee it.

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:20 PM

Because our current government healthcare (Medicaid, VA and Medicare are just SO AWESOME!!!!

Pless1foEngrish on April 6, 2014 at 6:25 PM

What is wrong with Kentucky?? Why do they keep electing Democrats to all statewide offices???

Raquel Pinkbullet on April 6, 2014 at 6:26 PM

How many of that “7.1 million” will pay their premium genius?

BeachBum on April 6, 2014 at 5:59 PM

We don’t know it for sure, but insurers estimate about 10-15% enrollees haven’t paid their premiums, yet. That means more 80% of customers already paid their premiums.

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:10 PM

Which insurers? This one says you’re Lying (again).

April 2, 2014

One of the biggest players in Obamacare’s exchanges says 15 to 20 percent of its new customers aren’t paying their first premium—which means they’re not actually covered.

The latest data come from the Blue Cross Blue Shield Association, whose members—known collectively as “Blues” plans—are participating in the exchanges in almost every state.

Link.

Care to provide hyperlinks for your sources, or do they all end with “whitehouse.gov”?

Del Dolemonte on April 6, 2014 at 6:27 PM

So you support a massive increase in taxes on the poor who currently have no tax liability or even somehow receive money at tax time?

rogerb on April 6, 2014 at 6:25 PM

Good point. Saladhead , like Obama , know little of economics but dang it …that won’t stop them from their freebies.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 6:27 PM

rogerb on April 6, 2014 at 6:19 PM

This guy seems like a real peach. Figures he’s all in for his messiah the boy king who loves him some Muslim brotherhood.

BeachBum on April 6, 2014 at 6:25 PM

More like a peach pit…

Del Dolemonte on April 6, 2014 at 6:29 PM

Notice how the Saladheads have torn off their Question Authority bumper stickers and just eat up the crap Obama sells them?

CW on April 6, 2014 at 6:29 PM

Notice how the Saladheads are not bothered in the least when their own Government cannot tell us statistics that should be easily obtainable about the ACA. They just know they want theirs. Such lapdogs.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 6:33 PM

Notice how when stats and challenges to his lies come his way the Saladhead slinks away.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 6:34 PM

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:20 PM

So you support a massive increase in taxes on the poor who currently have no tax liability or even somehow receive money at tax time?

rogerb on April 6, 2014 at 6:25 PM

Because our current government healthcare (Medicaid, VA and Medicare are just SO AWESOME!!!!

Pless1foEngrish on April 6, 2014 at 6:25 PM

They said it as well as I could.

Barred on April 6, 2014 at 6:34 PM

If it was up to me, we would have a Single-payer in which everybody participate and pays into through income tax.
 
Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:20 PM

 
So you support a massive increase in taxes on the poor who currently have no tax liability or even somehow receive money at tax time?
 
rogerb on April 6, 2014 at 6:25 PM

 
We’re very interested in hearing more about your tax increase on the working poor, Salahuddin.
 
What’s your back-of-the-napkin estimate for their new rate? No more EITC and about 15%? More than 15%?
 
And is that 15% on non-cash income (section 8, food stamps, CHIP, etc.) as well?
 
Please give us details on your plan.

rogerb on April 6, 2014 at 6:37 PM

So you support a massive increase in taxes on the poor who currently have no tax liability or even somehow receive money at tax time?

rogerb on April 6, 2014 at 6:25 PM

Those on low incomes should get exemption.

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:38 PM

*wipes boot*

F*cking trolls.

Midas on April 6, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Those on low incomes should get exemption.

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Have you thought this out? Or are you making up this shite as you go?

Doh.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 6:44 PM

Because our current government healthcare (Medicaid, VA and Medicare are just SO AWESOME!!!!

Pless1foEngrish on April 6, 2014 at 6:25 PM

Every one of those programs has high favorability ratings among it’s users, so I don’t see your point there.

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:48 PM

If it was up to me, we would have a Single-payer in which everybody participate and pays into through income tax.
 
Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:20 PM

 
So you support a massive increase in taxes on the poor who currently have no tax liability or even somehow receive money at tax time?
 
rogerb on April 6, 2014 at 6:25 PM

 
Those on low incomes should get exemption.
 
Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:38 PM

 
So if it was up to you you’d make things pretty much exactly the way they were before Obamacare?

rogerb on April 6, 2014 at 6:49 PM

Those on low incomes should get exemption.

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Define low income. …but first admit that you didn’t really know when you posted that.

Every one of those programs has high favorability ratings among it’s users, so I don’t see your point there.

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:48 PM

Of course, that’s the only measuring stick. Right Einstein? You’re young . I can tell. Ignorant , yet you think you know it all.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 6:51 PM

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:48 PM

Do you have Any idea of what Medicaid is? Do you know how few doctors and hospitals even accept it? You aren’t too bright.

BeachBum on April 6, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Do you have Any idea of what Medicaid is? Do you know how few doctors and hospitals even accept it? You aren’t too bright.

BeachBum on April 6, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Lest we forget:

For three years, an incredibly nerdy—but consequential—debate has raged among health policy researchers regarding Medicaid, America’s government-run health-care program for the poor. Piles of studies have shown that people on Medicaid have health outcomes that are no better, and often worse, than those with no insurance at all. But supporters of Obamacare were cheered in 2011 when a lone study, out of Oregon, purported to show that Medicaid was better than being uninsured. Yesterday, however, the authors of the Oregon study published their updated, two-year results, finding that Medicaid “generated no significant improvement in measured physical health outcomes.” The result calls into question the $450 billion a year we spend on Medicaid, and the fact that Obamacare throws 11 million more Americans into this broken program.FORBES.COM

CW on April 6, 2014 at 6:58 PM

Idiots like Saladhead think money grows on trees.

Say Saladhead when was the last time you thanked the tax payer for paying for your food, your rent, and for your healthcare? That might go a ways to better the mood of the country.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 6:59 PM

Because our current government healthcare (Medicaid, VA and Medicare are just SO AWESOME!!!!

Pless1foEngrish on April 6, 2014 at 6:25 PM

Every one of those programs has high favorability ratings among it’s users, so I don’t see your point there.

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:48 PM

I was only able to find one relatively recent (2014) poll that asked people if they liked Medicare. A single poll result does not make it settled science.

http://www.pollingreport.com/health.htm

I could not find a single poll result from 2014 showing peoples’ opinion of Medicaid or VA care.

Keep making it up…maybe s shovel for each hand?

Del Dolemonte on April 6, 2014 at 7:04 PM

AND you have to love comments like Saladheads about Medicare as well. They are happy with it compared to what? Do you even know how Medicare works?

If you are 65 and receiving Social Security retirement benefits or Railroad Retirement benefits, you will be automatically enrolled in both Medicare Part A and Part B

Also,not everything is peachy.

WASHINGTON — New rules proposed by the Obama administration to limit the array of antidepressants and other prescription drugs currently available to millions of seniors have set off an intense round of lobbying by patient advocates clamoring to preserve access and by pharmaceutical companies eager to preserve profits.

Under the proposed guidelines for Medicare prescription drug benefits, seniors who currently have access to about 57 antidepressants and anti-psychotics could see their choices dwindle to 15, according to a pharmaceutical industry-backed group.

Federal officials have said the policy change would save $720 million over five years, between 2015 and 2019. By proposing the change, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services said it also aims to rein in over-prescribing of some expensive drugs.
-BOSTON GLOBE

Keep reading. You might learn something.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Keep making it up…maybe s shovel for each hand?

Del Dolemonte on April 6, 2014 at 7:04 PM

I was going to say ….I think he pulled that out of his arse.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Every one of those programs has high favorability ratings among it’s users, so I don’t see your point there.

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:48 PM

We can’t simply put more people into a broken system that doesn’t work.

~~Barack Obama about Medicaid, 2009

lynncgb on April 6, 2014 at 7:12 PM

I was going to say ….I think he pulled that out of his arse.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 7:09 PM

Maybe he saw it on a recent Family Feud, you know, something like Survey Says 65% of those asked say apple is their favorite fruit.

BeachBum on April 6, 2014 at 7:15 PM

Come on Saladhead! Where are those links boy?

CW on April 6, 2014 at 7:15 PM

Every one of those programs has high favorability ratings among it’s users, so I don’t see your point there.

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:48 PM

Jethro, fewer and fewer of those users are doctors. When Medicaid was a smaller and more controlled system we treated it kind of like pro bono. When you considered the paperwork and regulations we never made a profit from our Medicaid patients. As the program progressed and grew larger many doctors, myself included, stopped seeing Medicaid patients. Now that it’s exploded with ObysmalCare good luck finding providers.

So the point is, nobody is going to like it, not give it a very favourable rating.

NOMOBO on April 6, 2014 at 7:17 PM

Every one of those programs has high favorability ratings among it’s users, so I don’t see your point there.

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 6:48 PM

Now you are just outright making $hit. Myself, my wife and about 100 of my friends us the VA and not a single one of us have a *high favorability* rating of it. Walk a mile in one of our shoes and come back and brief us about VA healthcare shipmate.

Wait about 60 days for a routine appointment and get 10 minutes with the Doc who tosses pills at you because they don’t have time to spend with you to figure out what is wrong…yeah right, high favorability rating my A$$.

Johnnyreb on April 6, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Instead of “navigators” being trained to sign people up, Kentucky has brought in some kynectors to sign up the inmates. (Get it? Kynectors? That’s hilarious.)

Hilarious where? Are they laughing their asses off in trailer parks all over the Blue Grass State?

Becauase from where I sit, if you’re already in the South it’s stupid. The “smart” people on the coasts already deduct IQ points based on zip code. It doesn’t help if you decide to use words like kynectors which one would wonder is intentionally mis-spelled for cuteness or a indictment of Kentucky’s education system.

Happy Nomad on April 6, 2014 at 7:29 PM

Bye Saladhead I knew you were a big nothing burger crap sammich. Hilarious.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 7:34 PM

Had a most interesting experience with a medicaid chiropractor recently on our way through Laredo, TX (Laredo is an outpost of Mexico now- you’ll never hear the English language unless you speak it first yourself).

Anyway, found myself in need of a neck adjustment, and picked this guy out of the phone book. The office of this chiropractor was jam-packed, but mostly with Hispanic mothers and school-age children. They’d go in, spend a few minutes and come out clutching some paperwork, one after another after another.

I had to conclude that this “doctor” was signing some sort of certifications for …what?… disability for the kids? SSI stuff? I understand if you get your child labeled with the correct diagnosis du jour, the gubmint checks are bigger.

Anyway, not something I’d run into before.

Pless1foEngrish on April 6, 2014 at 7:45 PM

It’s funny how you guys point to all of the shortcomings of our healthcare system, and yet not one single of you or your elected officials from the right have proposed any tangible solution to the problem. At least the Democrats are putting solutions on the table.
Whether you agree with them or not. They are unified and put their names behind an idea. And this is not new, Democrats have always been the Party of Social Safety net, big long lasting programs and ideas.
They may pay a small political price in the short run (see 2010) but they are playing for the long run and their initiatives will last for generations to come.
While the Party of stupid is stuck in a permanent minority in the foreseeable future!

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 7:47 PM

If it was up to me, we would have a Single-payer in which everybody participate and pays into through income tax.

Those on low incomes should get exemption.

We spend over $10,000 per capita on healthcare in this country. Take out those under 18 and say those over 70 and those low income people and we would have to enact a $15,000 a year tax on everyone else.
You ready for that?

lowandslow on April 6, 2014 at 7:47 PM

CW on April 6, 2014 at 7:34 PM

Why u mad, bro?

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 7:48 PM

*points to the ‘DONT FEED THE MORONIC TROLLS’ sign*

Midas on April 6, 2014 at 7:51 PM

At least the Democrats are putting solutions on the table.
Whether you agree with them or not. They are unified
Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 7:47 PM

Run on it !!!

Funny how you ignore the facts, stats, studies, etc that fly in the face of your “victory”. Such a little man. So expected. That is who you are.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 7:57 PM

We spend over $10,000 per capita on healthcare in this country. Take out those under 18 and say those over 70 and those low income people and we would have to enact a $15,000 a year tax on everyone else.
You ready for that?

lowandslow on April 6, 2014 at 7:47 PM

We spend that amount of money because #1- We do not have universal healthcare (covering preventive care) which will reduce the huge medical bills we pay, because people will get care before they are terminally ill and cost 10x more. #2- We overpay for everything, whether it’s doctors or prescription drugs compared to every other developed country out there.

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 7:57 PM

Saladhead I was laughing at you. Psst not anger. Let’s see : You cannot define “mad” or ” low income’. Hmmm someone has some homework to do.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 7:58 PM

because people will get care before they are terminally ill and cost 10x more.
Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 7:57 P

I’d love to see that link! Bring it.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 7:59 PM

It’s funny how you guys point to all of the shortcomings of our healthcare system, and yet not one single of you or your elected officials from the right have proposed any tangible solution to the problem.

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 7:47 PM

But wait. You need to talk to your buddies. The ACA was a GOP idea right? Really you guys need to get together with your talking points.

In reality, you’re a liar.

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/GOPHealthPlan_061709.pdf

You really are too easy. Thanks for playing. So fun.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 8:02 PM

It’s funny how you guys point to all of the shortcomings of our healthcare system, and yet not one single of you or your elected officials from the right have proposed any tangible solution

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 7:47 PM

lalalalalala I can’t hear you I can’t hear you lalalalalala shut up shut up lalalalalalalalalal shut up

*Edited for emotional accuracy.*

tort reform
allowing selling health insurance across state lines
decoupling insurance from employment

Simple steps that would have an enormous lowering effect on health care costs and the affordability of health insurance.

So there’s three, pumpkin.

Pless1foEngrish on April 6, 2014 at 8:02 PM

Saladhead–Yeh , you’re a liar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FFyzc4LGUM

CW on April 6, 2014 at 8:06 PM

It’s funny how you guys point to all of the shortcomings of our healthcare system, and yet not one single of you or your elected officials from the right have proposed any tangible solution to the problem. At least the Democrats are putting solutions on the table.
Whether you agree with them or not. They are unified and put their names behind an idea. And this is not new, Democrats have always been the Party of Social Safety net, big long lasting programs and ideas.
They may pay a small political price in the short run (see 2010) but they are playing for the long run and their initiatives will last for generations to come.
While the Party of stupid is stuck in a permanent minority in the foreseeable future!
 
Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 7:47 PM

 
Oh good. For a minute I thought we might get links and data supporting a position, but we got a fairly standard “the earth is only 6000 years old” post instead.

rogerb on April 6, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Too funny. Weak sauce that one.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 8:09 PM

Definitely not the brightest troll under the bridge.

Midas on April 6, 2014 at 8:14 PM

Wow, that one must have just come out of the OFA talking points class. What a moron.

BeachBum on April 6, 2014 at 8:15 PM

OT, but fascinating.

We’ve been getting those “Are you covered?” emails from Get Covered America, Enroll America and other Obamacare robots. Today I decided to unsubscribe rather than just delete, but first I checked their privacy policy.

Buried was this interested caveat about who they share your personal information with:

For example, we may share personal information as follows: with organizations, groups or causes that we believe support the Affordable Care Act or otherwise have similar viewpoints, principles, activities or objectives;

They don’t even hide it any more.

Pless1foEngrish on April 6, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Tip of the iceberg, I’m sure. If any investigative reporters (assuming there are any left) want something to investigate, this is the story of our time.

flataffect on April 6, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Per the Guardian….no, not a conservative paper:

What the emails are leaving out: enroling in healthcare, and actually being covered, are two different things.

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/mar/31/obamacare-health-enrolment-coverage-difference-insurance

CW on April 6, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Overall, the Federal government reports that 32% of on-exchange enrollees as of March 1st are under the age of 34. And many of these are teenagers who are part of family policies, not the young yuppies that Obamacare is fervently targeting. Earlier estimates showed only 20% of enrollees were between the ages 18 and 34.

The final number of young enrollees is well below the required cohort. Premiums will rise next year as a result of the adverse selection of older, and probably less healthy consumers. Why are young adults staying away? In one word, economics.Forbes.com

Saladhead, look up that word too.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 8:30 PM

HHS “Started” Individual Obamacare Applications Prior To Deadline,Obtained Personal Info From States Posted by: Javier Manjarres on April 4, 2014

Read more at: http://www.shark-tank.com/2014/04/04/hhs-started-individual-obamacare-applications-prior-to-deadlineobtained-personal-info-from-states/ | The Shark Tank

Huh???

I wonder if Saladhead helped.

CW on April 6, 2014 at 8:32 PM

**Note to Salahuddin

Dems Wise to Flee the Coming Tsunami

It’s clear, now, that every promise Democrats made about Obamacare was false. You can’t always keep your doctor if you want to. Health insurance premiums for many people have gone way up, not down. So has government spending on health care. Many of the uninsured don’t like Obamacare and don’t plan to buy it.

And it’s clear, too, that this administration couldn’t organize a two-car funeral.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/04/06/dems_wise_to_flee_the_coming_tsunami_122190.html

The reckoning cometh.

Green eyed Lady on April 6, 2014 at 8:46 PM

We spend that amount of money because #1- We do not have universal healthcare (covering preventive care) which will reduce the huge medical bills we pay, because people will get care before they are terminally ill and cost 10x more. #2- We overpay for everything, whether it’s doctors or prescription drugs compared to every other developed country out there.

Salahuddin on April 6, 2014 at 7:57 PM

You are truly an idiot, and now you’ve got me angry. I hope you tell your neurosurgeon that he’s overpaid just before he works on you.
Oh, and did I say you are truly an idiot?

NOMOBO on April 6, 2014 at 8:49 PM

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