Scarborough: Reid, Dems “too stupid to be in politics”

posted at 10:01 am on April 5, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

“Politics and governing aren’t for the stupid or the fainthearted,” Joe Scarborough wrote in the preface of his book The Right Path. But is Harry Reid trying to prove him wrong on the former point? It depends on whether one considers Kochsteria a round of truth-telling, or just a desperation play to get Democratic donors into the mix. On yesterday’s Morning Joe, Scarborough dominated and dedicated a segment to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to call him a liar, equate him with “those cheap, dirty political consultants, and declare him “embarrassing.” The Blaze notes that his panel didn’t exactly rush to Reid’s defense, either:

Co-host Mika Brzezinski, and in-studio panelists Jim Vandehei of Politico, and “Morning Joe” regulars Willie Geist, and Katty Kay were silent for much of the segment, speaking only when called upon to join the uncomfortable conversation.

At the 7:00 point of the clip, Joe actually referred to the leader of the U.S. Senate by saying, “He’s like one of those cheap, dirty, political consultants you stay away from because they would embarrass you.”

Not a voice was raised to object to Scarborough’s argument.

The usually unapologetic Democratic supporter, Mika Brzezinski said nothing for most of the segment. In fact, it was 10 minutes into the clip before Mika finally shared her feelings on Reid’s relentless attack on the Koch brothers by saying, “I cringed watching it,” and then criticizing his comments’ “destructive tone.”

But what is the “bigger strategy” in play, and is it as “stupid” as Scarborough says? Michael Steele and Chuck Todd explain the strategy as a fundraiser and distraction in the next segment, and Todd tells the panel that he’s heard nothing from Democrats dissenting from Reid’s strategy. In the end, Scarborough just isn’t buying it, and even David Gregory acknowledges that demagoguery may be Democrats’ “only hope” in motivating their base and their donors:

If you want to hear Reid (accurately) described as “McCarthyite” on MSNBC, you’ve got to get up pretty early in the morning. Scarborough still isn’t impressed at the end of this explanation, suggesting that anyone backing this strategy might be too stupid to be trusted with household appliances. Perhaps voters will conclude that, at the least, they shouldn’t be trusted with control of the Senate.

As for turning the Kochs into Bain, let’s not forget that the Bain attacks didn’t do nearly as much damage as Mitt Romney’s “47%” comments, and Bain related directly to the Republican nominee. On top of that, Obama only eked by Romney as an incumbent President, with his massive GOTV organization the key difference. If nouveau-Bain really is the Democratic strategy in 2014, then Gregory’s right — they really are more desperate than we knew.

Besides, one has to wonder about this as a fundraising strategy. Are all of the wealthy donors on the Democratic side taking notes about the McCarthyism launched against their opponents, and perhaps wondering if certain precedents are being set in politics that might come back against them down the road? Because the more Democrats embrace Reid in his Kochsteria, the more likely Republicans are to return the favor when they take control of the Senate floor, and that’s not going to be good for anyone’s interests.


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They can be as stupid as they want. Their media cheerleaders will cover for them.

bgibbs1000 on April 5, 2014 at 10:10 AM

Not only stupid but immoral…..

crosshugger on April 5, 2014 at 10:12 AM

Stupid is as stupid does votes.

Mojave Mark on April 5, 2014 at 10:15 AM

“Bain?” Don’t you mean “Emmanuel Goldstein?”

TB on April 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM

many in the nation were fervent supporters of a hockey mom with lipstick who could see russia from her house, so not sure intelligence (or lack thereof) is a bar to public office…

nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM

Joe is wrong. Dems are politically brilliant. They are perfect for politics because they are natural demagogues. That they often lack other intellectual attributes is not relevant in a society that has been thoroughly infantilized. It is the Republicans that are too stupid to be in politics, regardless of how book smart they are.

Nomennovum on April 5, 2014 at 10:17 AM

“those cheap, dirty political consultants, and declare him “embarrassing.”

Reid’s a hack and a joke. Pretty typical lefty.

CW on April 5, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Hairy needs to get the folks at Mozilla working on his next election…

vnvet on April 5, 2014 at 10:19 AM

many in the nation were fervent supporters of a hockey mom with lipstick who could see russia from her house, so not sure intelligence (or lack thereof) is a bar to public office…

nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM

This should be good……

BallisticBob on April 5, 2014 at 10:20 AM

And yet, as stupid as they are, they keep winning elections. Go figure.

MJBrutus on April 5, 2014 at 10:20 AM

“those cheap, dirty political consultants, and declare him ‘embarrassing’.”

Don’t know if the period is in the right place, but the punctuation nazi that lives deep within me abhors three quotation marks together. I feel the same about parentheses. Meh. We all have our quirks.

Fallon on April 5, 2014 at 10:21 AM

many in the nation were fervent supporters of a hockey mom with lipstick who could see russia from her house, so not sure intelligence (or lack thereof) is a bar to public office…

nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM

Tina Fey was running? You are a liar as well as an idiot.

VegasRick on April 5, 2014 at 10:24 AM

…how bad can it be…if you have even lost MSLSD?
…you have to LOL that the worthless MSM… hasn’t jumped on Reid’s senile ranting’s!

KOOLAID2 on April 5, 2014 at 10:24 AM

Leave it to Morning Shmoe to bring up a point that everyone else brought up a decade ago.

Myron Falwell on April 5, 2014 at 10:27 AM

many in the nation were fervent supporters of a hockey mom with lipstick inexperienced America-hating, economics-challenged empty suit who could see russia from her golf courses and unicorns and 57 states and dead people in his audience from his house, so not sure intelligence (or lack thereof) is a bar to public office…

nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM

FIFY. You’re welcome.

MrKleenexMuscles on April 5, 2014 at 10:27 AM

many in the nation were fervent supporters of a hockey mom with lipstick who could see russia from her house, so not sure intelligence (or lack thereof) is a bar to public office…

nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM

This should be good……

BallisticBob on April 5, 2014 at 10:20 AM

I’m very reluctant to label some a troll. But when somebody repeats such an obvious lie, for so long, on an unrelated thread …I give up. Nonpartisan has to be HotAir’s official sockpuppet.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 10:28 AM

And yet, as stupid as they are, they keep winning elections. Go figure.

MJBrutus on April 5, 2014 at 10:20 AM

So you’re in the “Idiocracy was a documentary” camp.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 10:29 AM

Oh my. Rachael Maddow isn’t going to be happy about this. She loves parroting the Koch Brothers Boogeyman story.

VinceOfDoom on April 5, 2014 at 10:30 AM

I’m very reluctant to label some a troll. But when somebody repeats such an obvious lie, for so long, on an unrelated thread …I give up. Nonpartisan has to be HotAir’s official sockpuppet.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 10:28 AM

I think in nonp’s case it should be referred to as suckpuppet.

VegasRick on April 5, 2014 at 10:30 AM

“…Obama only eked by Romney as an incumbent President, with his massive GOTV organization the key difference.”

Or, maybe it was the 40,000 + voters identified in NC, who voted more than once around the country. Or the woman who voted 6 times; or maybe those felons who put Al Franken in office, multiplied in several states–like Ohio and Florida and then there is Philadelphia, where there were curiously NO voters for Romney.

At the very least, let us stipulate that there was something extraordinarily FISHY about the results of the 2012 Presidential election, and pray that it cannot replicate itself in local and state midterms, eh? Because I still am very skeptical about that highly touted “massive GOTV organization” that everyone, apparently, including you, thinks is the reason Obama won. They were just so good at GOTV then, but everything else before and since is the height of nincompoop INCOMPETENCE–to wit, that ObamaCare website debacle?!? I mean, come on, GIMME A BREAK.

Something smells about it. Admit it.

mountainaires on April 5, 2014 at 10:32 AM

VegasRick on April 5, 2014 at 10:30 AM

Ha!

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 10:32 AM

MSNBC is still covering for Harry Reid, they didn’t even talk about his pedophilia habit.

cat-scratch on April 5, 2014 at 10:32 AM

Someone let me know when these leftist gazillionaires donate to something other than hard-left think tanks.

Seems to me that the Kochs actually do something to improve their communities.

BuckeyeSam on April 5, 2014 at 10:38 AM

Even for Harry Reid, this is shocking.

It’s the MO of the left all over the land. It’s not about gay marriage or winning elections any more. It’s just mad, frenzied hate.

PattyJ on April 5, 2014 at 10:40 AM

Pretty good analysis overall, but here is where it breaks down:

Besides, one has to wonder about this as a fundraising strategy. Are all of the wealthy donors on the Democratic side taking notes about the McCarthyism launched against their opponents, and perhaps wondering if certain precedents are being set in politics that might come back against them down the road?

No, they are not wondering. These are DONKS you’re talking about, remember? They know that they can punch below the belt with impunity, and face no in-kind response. That’s why they go on doing it.

Spurius Ligustinus on April 5, 2014 at 10:41 AM

So, other than cmsinaz and two other people, who saw this?

Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 10:44 AM

Oh my. Rachael Maddow isn’t going to be happy about this. She loves parroting the Koch Brothers Boogeyman story.

VinceOfDoom on April 5, 2014 at 10:30 AM

Actually I caught the last part of her show last night and she teased a segment before the break about “disgusting politicians and the sanity to kick them out of office” and during the commercial and I said “Let me guess, it’s all about the DEMOCRAT gun runner, yeah right” and you could have knocked me over with a feather when it WAS about the three California Senate Democrats including the gunrunner. Of course, it was the final 10 minutes of her show.

Marcus on April 5, 2014 at 10:45 AM

nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM

She’s one Hell of a lot smarter than you, idiot.

The story is about Harry Reid’s despicable abuse of his office, smearing his opponents with slanderous, preposterous lies on the floor of the Senate. Lies so stupid that they offend the intelligence of any normal, decent human being. I guess that leaves you out.

Now that I think of it, you are a pathetic, depraved liar and a moron yourself. Is Harry your father?

novaculus on April 5, 2014 at 10:45 AM

Reid (and his ilk – Obama comes to mind) are a prime example of the saying, “Absolute power corrupts absolutely”. Political desperation is an ugly thing to watch.

retiredtom on April 5, 2014 at 10:46 AM

many in the nation were fervent supporters of a hockey mom with lipstick who could see russia from her house,

nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM

What she really said you loathsome POS liar:

They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXL86v8NoGk

CW on April 5, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Politics and governing aren’t for the stupid

Increasingly, they have replaced religious cultism as the chosen outlet for those who lust after power but have no discernible ability to achieve anything through actual merit.

The fanatical, the delusional, and the inbred offspring of the elite’, now flock to government as they once did to the church, in the belief that there they can have that power over others their aberrant mental processes tell them they deserve merely on the basis of their existence and self-perceived “innate superiority”.

The moral here is that while Nature may not abhor a vacuum, power does. If you remove one group- a movement, or a nation- from the nexus of same, that nexus will not remain vacant. Somebody or something will move into it.

The One has doe his utmost to remove the United States from that nexus in the world. Now the rest of the world is gearing up to decide who gets to occupy it next. It will be neither peaceful, nor pretty, especially as old scores and feuds are settled in the process, and those who hate everyone else’s chromosomes do their best to remove said chromosomes from the human gene pool.

Progressives here dream of removing everyone else who isn’t exactly like them from power, and/or erasing them from the face of the earth and the history books. That won’t be pretty, either, for precisely the same reasons.

Besides, one has to wonder about this as a fundraising strategy. Are all of the wealthy donors on the Democratic side taking notes about the McCarthyism launched against their opponents, and perhaps wondering if certain precedents are being set in politics that might come back against them down the road? Because the more Democrats embrace Reid in his Kochsteria, the more likely Republicans are to return the favor when they take control of the Senate floor, and that’s not going to be good for anyone’s interests.

They aren’t thinking that far ahead, if indeed they are “thinking” at all. Reid is throwing them the bloody meat they crave. The progressive elite’ of today is neither particularly well-educated or particularly logical; they haven’t needed to be either one, in an environment where they receive kudos for what would be labelled irrational beliefs and behaviors outside of their little cliques’.

All they know is what they feel. Which amounts to a steadfast belief in their own perfection, and an abject “fear and loathing” of anyone not part of their “superior” group.

Like any other fanatic cult, the fastest way to get their support is to vilify someone they don’t like. This allows them to indulge in wonderful, ecumenical language like “I HATE YOU ALL! YOU ALL MUST DIE! YEEAAARRRGGH!”- thus experiencing the “catharsis” of being able to hate with a clear conscience. The Eich/Mozilla mess is another example.

Reasoned discussion finishes a very poor second to the appeal of that. Especially to those who have power, and seek more of it, mainly to indulge their own basest desires.

clear ether

eon

eon on April 5, 2014 at 10:49 AM

nonpartisan you intelligent windbag…just for you:

https://www.google.com/maps/@65.7471874,-168.5085324,10z

CW on April 5, 2014 at 10:49 AM

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CW on April 5, 2014 at 10:50 AM

It’s nothing new. Remember the evil Halliburton?

One could have fun researching ties to Clinton back then, and present day contracts with this administration.

I guess it’s all timing and where the money flows.

The right has plenty of ammo they never seem to use, because thier pockets get lined too.

I don’t know all that much about it. But enough to reconize the pattern.

wolly4321 on April 5, 2014 at 10:50 AM

nothing more than joe cleaning up his resume for 2016 run, hay look i stuck up for conservatives. And the reason the rest of the panel kept their mouth shut was because they wanted to be invited back. silence doesn’t mean agreement.

phatfawzi on April 5, 2014 at 10:50 AM

This is actually a mitigating circumstance for the general moderate blandness of the current Republican congressional leadership.

Boehner and McConnell don’t want to rock the boat, and because they’re such milquetoasts, it makes it hard for the Democrats to fundraise off them, in the way they did when Bill Clinton was president and Newt Gingrich was the Republicans’ face in Congress. So the Democrats need a new demon, and since there’s a limit to how far they can take hating on Ted Cruz (who wasn’t on their radar until 20 months ago, anyway), they’ve seized on the ‘evil billionares’ strategerie with the Koch Brothers.

Their problem is unless the Koches decide to run for office themselves, go on “Dancing With The Stars” or buy a major market pro sports team and run it into the ground, the low-info voters the Democrats want to become outrageously outrages over the brothers just isn’t going to care. They don’t know who they are, and they’re more interested in non-political things to care about learning who they area.

jon1979 on April 5, 2014 at 10:51 AM

Harry Reid isn’t stupid. Despicable and feckless, yes. But he’s playing the same game he did with with Romney not paying taxes…he figures he can say whatever he wants to and nothing will happen to him. And he’s right. Nothing will happen to him.

scalleywag on April 5, 2014 at 10:51 AM

No, they are not wondering. These are DONKS you’re talking about, remember? They know that they can punch below the belt with impunity, and face no in-kind response. That’s why they go on doing it.

Spurius Ligustinus on April 5, 2014 at 10:41 AM

For now. If the Democrats ever do become secure enough in their goal of one party of the elites rule, then the infighting will heat up. But that’s still a long way off, so ya, plenty of time to jockey for position.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 10:52 AM

I thought all the dems were going to run on the wildly successful obamacare, especially since they hit their magic number.

jaywemm on April 5, 2014 at 10:53 AM

Tina Fey was running? You are a liar as well as an idiot.

VegasRick on April 5, 2014 at 10:24 AM

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It’s amazing how the “party of science” and the “champions of the inept and incompetent” continue to refuse to correct their own ignorance and deception on this issue, isn’t it? Nothing they can say or write is as convincing as a Tina Fey joke on a has-been TV show.
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No one should take liberals seriously and if they were not buying votes left and right from LiVs they wouldn’t be.

ExpressoBold on April 5, 2014 at 10:53 AM

he figures he can say whatever he wants to and nothing will happen to him. …….
scalleywag on April 5, 2014 at 10:51 AM

How true.

Much like sopartisan.

CW on April 5, 2014 at 10:54 AM

And yet, as stupid as they are, they keep winning elections. Go figure.

MJBrutus on April 5, 2014 at 10:20 AM

So you’re in the “Idiocracy was a documentary” camp.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 10:29 AM

Actually, here’s one single instance where I will agree with Bruti.

Mountainaires spoke of voter fraud possibly getting obama re-elected. Maybe it did and maybe it didn’t. If we consider even 10% voter-fraud, that’s still 59 million votes this a$$hole got. 59 million idiots voted to give a proven failure back into office. that’s 4 million more votes that W. got in ’04, the most in history.

Read the comments on the boards even at this late date. This failure and his party are still being taken seriously. I’d say that’s a pretty good documentary. The Rethuglicans could take a lesson. America, at this point, is too stupid for reason anymore.

Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 10:55 AM

Is PARTiSan an attention whore? Is he ignorant enough to make such a slanderous statement to obtain attention? How can such a stupid person graduate from Harvard?

garydt on April 5, 2014 at 10:58 AM

many in the nation were fervent supporters of a hockey mom with lipstick who could see russia from her house, so not sure intelligence (or lack thereof) is a bar to public office…
nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM

Nonpartisan opens with the red herring ejector, it has no effect.

Cliff by the Ford on April 5, 2014 at 10:59 AM

eon on April 5, 2014 at 10:49 AM

Great post.

It’s like little krystalnaughts popping up all over the place. It’s what brownshirts do.

It’s going to get much worse, in any case. They get more power, they’ll use it. They lose any power, they act in even greater desperation.

wolly4321 on April 5, 2014 at 11:00 AM

Well, it seems Joe Jerkoff is trying to ‘butch it up’ a little in an appeal to the base as he ponders a run for office.

Pffft.

Yeah Joe, we know Harry’s a complete lying scumbag. And we know your a worthless RINO.

M240H on April 5, 2014 at 11:00 AM

…America, at this point, is too stupid for reason anymore.

Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 10:55 AM

Ya but, MJBrutus was being sarcastic, so we’re not really agreeing with him.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 11:05 AM

wake me up when morning schmoe criticizes obama.

renalin on April 5, 2014 at 11:05 AM

The strategy is:

They know they are going to lose big in the midterms, so they are setting up their excuse that the evil Koch Brothers corrupted the election.

uncle jj on April 5, 2014 at 11:05 AM

many in the nation were fervent supporters of a hockey mom with lipstick who could see russia from her house, so not sure intelligence (or lack thereof) is a bar to public office…

noforeskin on April 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM

I’m very reluctant to label some a troll. But when somebody repeats such an obvious lie, for so long, on an unrelated thread …I give up. Nonpartisan has to be HotAir’s official sockpuppet.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 10:28 AM

…I think it’s Harry Reid!

KOOLAID2 on April 5, 2014 at 11:11 AM

Obama only eked by Romney as an incumbent President, with his massive GOTV Voter fraud organization the key difference.

FIFY

Huckabye-Romney on April 5, 2014 at 11:11 AM

the distance from policy advisor (Axelrod, Emmanuel) to nutrooter (Yglesias, Beutler) to troll is a rather narrow one, why would Searchlight Harry feel any reservations about such a course of action,

narciso on April 5, 2014 at 11:13 AM

…I think it’s Harry Reid!

KOOLAID2 on April 5, 2014 at 11:11 AM

But Harry Reid might be going senile and is just repeating what his staffers tell him to say …oh wait, maybe you’re right.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 11:17 AM

You know Harry is bottom feeding when he can’t get a defense from Mika and some others, but of course the slimey Reid is addressing the retarded part of the voters, the fools who voted for Obama and naturally playing up to the degenerate leftist media.

arand on April 5, 2014 at 11:19 AM

I did take note at how silent the liberal Democrats were on this. Take the reverse and have this have been McConnell talking about George Soros, how many direct questions would there be to the conservative guest (or in MSNBC’s case the RINO guest) asking if he/she supported what was said. I can’t even begin to imagine how many times that question would be asked.

I wish Watters would go after all the Democrats leadership and get them on the record for these Koch Attacks. You know Schumer would love to attack the Kochs and so wouldn’t Durbin, so let’s get them on the record joining Harry Reid in the scorched earth strategy he’s using and then nail them.

bflat879 on April 5, 2014 at 11:26 AM

many in the nation were fervent supporters of a hockey mom with lipstick who could see russia from her house, so not sure intelligence (or lack thereof) is a bar to public office…

nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM

Just to state the obvious …

http://snopes.com/politics/palin/russia.asp

Instead of calling nonpartisan the official sockpuppet of HotAir, why not call him the official Harry Reid?

Or Joe Biden.

Pythagoras on April 5, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Just to state the obvious …

http://snopes.com/politics/palin/russia.asp

Instead of calling nonpartisan the official sockpuppet of HotAir, why not call him the official Harry Reid?

Or Joe Biden.

Pythagoras on April 5, 2014 at 11:27 AM

nonp can see it’s colon from it’s viewpoint.

VegasRick on April 5, 2014 at 11:34 AM

nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM

She’s one Hell of a lot smarter than you, idiot.

The story is about Harry Reid’s despicable abuse of his office, smearing his opponents with slanderous, preposterous lies on the floor of the Senate. Lies so stupid that they offend the intelligence of any normal, decent human being. I guess that leaves you out.

Now that I think of it, you are a pathetic, depraved liar and a moron yourself. Is Harry your father?

novaculus on April 5, 2014 at 10:45 AM

Given NP’s politics, I doubt if she has ever met her father.

slickwillie2001 on April 5, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Is PARTiSan an attention whore? Is he ignorant enough to make such a slanderous statement to obtain attention? How can such a stupid person graduate from Harvard?

garydt on April 5, 2014 at 10:58 AM

yes. yes. because he never attended Harvard.

Flora Duh on April 5, 2014 at 11:38 AM

It’s wishful thinking that the media will go after Harry Reid, Wasserman-Schultz, Nancy Pelosi or any of the other countless Democratic talking-heads.

Republicans, especially conservatives, and even more so rich Republican conservatives have been recognized as evil incarnate by the mainstream media. The MSM will casually throw in Koch references, and never mention McCarthyism (unless aimed at conservatives).

The NARRATIVE is written, the NARRATIVE is strong, the NARRATIVE shall prevail. All bow down and hail the NARRATIVE and those who spread its TRUTH.

pilsener on April 5, 2014 at 11:39 AM

On balance, I don’t think Reid’s drivel is aimed at the truly LIV.

They not only don’t know who the Koch brothers are, LIVs don’t know who Harry Reid is, or what a Senate Majority Leader is. They certainly don’t watch anything remotely political on TV or internet.

Possibly the Evil Republican Billionaires meme may seep into late-night comedy or the Yahoo! News headlines, but its an old and well-worn accusation. Yeah, yeah, ‘Pubs are the party of the rich, they hate poor people, blacks, gheys and … whatever.

It may just be an attempt to do an Eich maneuver on the Kochs; make them social pariahs in the circles that they inhabit.

Or I dunno- Reid could be just the malevolent gnome he appears to be.

Pless1foEngrish on April 5, 2014 at 11:40 AM

Jesus Christ.No matter how many times I point out nonparisian is fake, you all still react to it.

Meh. I guess it’s like me reacting to frank, I guess.

Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 11:40 AM

many in the nation were fervent supporters of a hockey mom with lipstick who could see russia from her house, so not sure intelligence (or lack thereof) is a bar to public office…

nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM

You have been corrected so many times about this falsehood that your intelligence (or lack thereof) should be a bar to all activities requiring anything harder than picking your nose.

“They’re our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.”

- Governor Sarah Palin, interview with ABC News’s Charles Gibson, 11 September 2008, transcript provided by ABC News

“I can see Russia from my house!”

- Tina Fey, Saturday Night Live, 13 September 2008

As to the question of whether one can actually see Russia from Alaska, Governor Palin was correct: such a view is possible from more than one site in that state. A Slate article on the topic noted that:

In the middle of the Bering Strait are two small, sparsely populated islands: Big Diomede, which sits in Russian territory, and Little Diomede, which is part of the United States. At their closest, these two islands are a little less than two and a half miles apart, which means that, on a clear day, you can definitely see one from the other.

Also, a 1988 New York Times article reported that:

To the Russian mainland from St. Lawrence Island, a bleak ice-bound expanse the size of Long Island out in the middle of the Bering Sea, the distance is 37 miles. From high ground there or from the Air Force facility at Tin City atop Cape Prince of Wales, the westernmost edge of mainland North America, on a clear day you can see Siberia with the naked eye.

Resist We Much on April 5, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Given NP’s politics, I doubt if she has ever met her father.

slickwillie2001 on April 5, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Sure she has. His name is ‘Brother.’

Resist We Much on April 5, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Resist We Much on April 5, 2014 at 11:45 AM

That was that interview where Gibson looked down his nose at Palin, wunnit? Over those half-moon glasses?

Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 11:46 AM

So the dems think they can raise money by publicizing the lies of a pederast, dementia- riddled, stink-breathed, corrupt old man?

I say , “Carry on, dems!”

LASue on April 5, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Jesus Christ.No matter how many times I point out nonparisian is fake, you all still react to it. Meh. I guess it’s like me reacting to frank, I guess. Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 11:40 AM

Lance, Lance, Lance,,,

Pretty much.

Wonder what Ivy league Frank went to?

We should ask.

wolly4321 on April 5, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Yes, indeed. He also asked her to define the ‘Bush Doctrine.’ She gave one version of it and he said that wasn’t correct. Unfortunately for Charlie, Palin was correct. She correctly stated one of the 4/5 Bush Doctrines. He assumed that there was only one. I think Charles Krauthammer has determined the number and may even be the coiner of the term ‘Bush Doctrine,’ IIRC.

Resist We Much on April 5, 2014 at 11:50 AM

“those cheap, dirty political consultants, and declare him ‘embarrassing’.”

Don’t know if the period is in the right place, but the punctuation nazi that lives deep within me abhors three quotation marks together. I feel the same about parentheses. Meh. We all have our quirks.

Fallon on April 5, 2014 at 10:21 AM

I laughed right out loud at your comment, I’m the exact same way. Seventh grade English habits from parochial school die HARD!

Chilly day in Chicago today, but the birds are singing : ))))))

herm2416 on April 5, 2014 at 11:56 AM

Resist We Much on April 5, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Maybe for emphasis we could conjure up some Biden talking about Roosevelt on TV.

wolly4321 on April 5, 2014 at 11:56 AM

Are we really paying any attention to this RINO dope as he cravenly attempts to curry favor with conservatives and pretend he are one? Really?!

Jaibones on April 5, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Or, maybe it was the 40,000 + voters identified in NC, who voted more than once around the country

That was pretty curious, wasn’t it, in a nation where Dims repeatedly insist that voter fraud is a “myth” and less common than alien abductions.

35,000 people with the same name, birthdate, and last four Social Security numbers voted in North Carolina and also voted in the same election in a different state. And N.C. was only able to compare its voter records with 28 other states, so there may have been — and probably were — thousands more duplicate votes in the 22 states that did not participate in the study. Makes one wonder how many thousands (millions?) of illegitimate votes were cast in other states too.

It’s no accident that Dims fight tooth and nail against any measures to making voting more secure (e.g., voter ID requirements). They know damn well which party is getting the benefit from all these illegal votes, and its not Republicans.

AZCoyote on April 5, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Are we really paying any attention to this RINO dope as he cravenly attempts to curry favor with conservatives and pretend he are one? Really?!

Jaibones on April 5, 2014 at 11:58 AM

Not really. It’s just kinda funny to to see an obambi fluffer duke it out with another obambi fluffer and never mention obambi by name.

VegasRick on April 5, 2014 at 12:03 PM

Leave it to Morning Shmoe to bring up a point that everyone else brought up a decade ago.

Myron Falwell on April 5, 2014 at 10:27 AM

Joe want’s to up his GOP street cred for a POTUS run. Ergo, his new found “voice” on this stuff.

JetBoy on April 5, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Biden, Roosevelt, TV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jf17Yo7hBM&feature=youtube_gdata_player.

Kinda makes Tina Fey seem smart.

wolly4321 on April 5, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Wonder what Ivy league Frank went to?

We should ask.

wolly4321 on April 5, 2014 at 11:50 AM

Lower case ‘f’. Don’t get our franks mixed up.

Unfortunately for Charlie, Palin was correct. She correctly stated one of the 4/5 Bush Doctrines. He assumed that there was only one. I think Charles Krauthammer has determined the number and may even be the coiner of the term ‘Bush Doctrine,’ IIRC.

Resist We Much on April 5, 2014 at 11:50 AM

I believe you are right about Krauthammer. The roundtable with Bret, Mara, and Juan.

Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 12:12 PM

And what’s with Mika Zhuzhinski’s white hair?

Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Is PARTiSan an attention whore?

garydt on April 5, 2014 at 10:58 AM

Is a pig’s ass pork??

bimmcorp on April 5, 2014 at 12:13 PM

many in the nation were fervent supporters of a hockey mom with lipstick who could see russia from her house, so not sure intelligence (or lack thereof) is a bar to public office…

nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM

Let’s take this one nonpartisan point at a time…

many in the nation were fervent supporters of a hockey mom…

nonpartisan attacks hockey and the moms that enable it.

…with lipstick…

nonpartisan attacks women.

…who could see russia from her house…

nonpartisan believes SNL is news instead of parody/comedy; may be considered mentally incompetent to operate household items since he/she cannot differentiate between news and a comedy show.

…so not sure intelligence (or lack thereof) is a bar to public office…

Obviously HotAir does not have a bar to prevent liberals from demonstrating their stuck-on-stupid lemming talking points.

dominigan on April 5, 2014 at 12:16 PM

Faceplam.

Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 12:18 PM

The picture you used for the main page is like a parody of Pajama Boy with those two in their identical hipster glasses. Ironic thick-framed eyeglasses actually add a dozen points to your IQ.

Zoomie on April 5, 2014 at 12:29 PM

Does Harry Reid wear lipstick? Did he support his kids when they played sports? I have it on good authority that that is a basic intelligence test.

hopeful on April 5, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Mika looks/acts too stupid to be on TV. Imagine her as FLOTUS.

Schadenfreude on April 5, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Leave it to Morning Shmoe to bring up a point that everyone else brought up a decade ago.

Myron Falwell on April 5, 2014 at 10:27 AM

.
10 years ago, this crap woulda never have flown. Lies about Bush, Iraq yada yada- yes and expected.
BUT having this creep turn the Senate floor into his own personal vendetta pulpit – despicable and that’s truly UN-American.
Not a fan of Shmoe…..but I can’t believe he used the term “McCarthyism”…..kudos there…..he just earned himself a few dis-invites from his lying liberal colleagues. He may even see a few days of suspension from MSNBS.
McCarthy IS the tool of the Left, that’s reserved for them!……turning the tables on these despicable Democrats using this buzzword -uttering “McCarthyism” is quite a big step in the push back to stop the Propaganda being forced on a supposedly Free Society.
Again, not a fan.

FlaMurph on April 5, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Mika looks/acts too stupid to be on TV. Imagine her as FLOTUS.

Schadenfreude on April 5, 2014 at 12:47 PM

If Scarborough becomes President, she will be.

Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 12:56 PM

They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.
NoGkCW on April 5, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Reminds me of the joke back in my airforce days with the American and Russian soldiers watch each other thru binoculars and then the American decides to use a little sign language to try and communicate with the Russian. The Russian misunderstands and runs in to tell the commander that the Americans plan to attack and hear the lamentations of their women, more or less. Anyhoo, yes from certain points one can see Russia from here. Also reminds me of the one book by Louis L’Armour set in the modern age where an American pilot escapes Russia by crossing over at those points. Can’t remember if he walked over on ice or kayaked over. Oh well.

AH_C on April 5, 2014 at 1:00 PM

many in the nation were fervent supporters of a hockey mom with lipstick who could see russia from her house, who stated, accurately, that Russia and Alaska were separated only by a short distance, so not sure intelligence (or lack thereof) is a bar to public office…
none of the rest of my post makes sense.
nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM

See how this works is, if you keep saying stupid stuff, we’ll keep calling you out for your stupidity.

massrighty on April 5, 2014 at 1:03 PM

And yet, as stupid as they are, they keep winning elections. Go figure.

MJBrutus on April 5, 2014 at 10:20 AM

Stupid is as stupid does votes.

Mojave Mark on April 5, 2014 at 10:15 AM

And there you are!

HiJack on April 5, 2014 at 1:18 PM

nonp can see lick it’s colon from it’s viewpoint.

VegasRick on April 5, 2014 at 11:34 AM

Fixed.

HiJack on April 5, 2014 at 1:26 PM

And yet, as stupid as they are, they keep winning elections. Go figure.

MJBrutus on April 5, 2014 at 10:20 AM

With the help of flukers like you, go figure!

Schadenfreude on April 5, 2014 at 1:38 PM

many in the nation were fervent supporters of a hockey mom with lipstick who could see russia from her house, so not sure intelligence (or lack thereof) is a bar to public office…

nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM

You God-damned Liar, and shame to higher education – and I don’t even care for SP in any office – she never said that. The chick on SNL said it.

Schadenfreude on April 5, 2014 at 1:39 PM

many in the nation were fervent supporters of a hockey mom with lipstick who SNL’s Tina Fey said could see russia from her house, so not sure intelligence (or lack thereof) is a bar to public office…

nonintelligent on April 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM

Fixed.

Your Democrat Party is the Party that lost the college graduate vote in 2012, while greatly increasing its share of the high school dropout vote from 70% to 80% in just 4 years.

If your Democrat Party is so intellectually superior, why won’t your Cult Leader tell us what he got for grades in college? After all, we already know what Sarah Palin’s college grades are.

Using your own feeble “logic”, it could credibly be argued that Ms. Palin is in fact smarter than O’bama is!

Thanks again for your post, which continues your admirable tradition of amply exposing the intelligence gap between Republicans and Democrats. Your side loses each and every time!

A+

O, and PS: Remember to capitalize the word “Russia” the next time you use it. Make you look even more clueless!

Del Dolemonte on April 5, 2014 at 1:43 PM

I’m sure the producers of all of FOX News primetime shows called Reid’s people asking for some face time to answer for his remarks. I’m just as sure nobody at CBS,ABC,NBC, MSNBC, CNN, etc. made a call like that. It’s easier just to spend twenty minutes bitching about it then to hold the guy responsible to answer for his lies and defamation.

lowandslow on April 5, 2014 at 1:49 PM

The title s/b “Voters too stupid to breathe”.

Schadenfreude on April 5, 2014 at 1:50 PM

many in the nation were fervent supporters of a hockey mom with lipstick who could see russia from her house, so not sure intelligence (or lack thereof) is a bar to public office…

nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM

So, you get your news from Saturday Night Live, eh Hahvahd boi?

Obviously, your “lack thereof” (re: intelligence) is no bar to you making an ass of yourself here.

I’m amazed that your parents allow you access to a computer; when your every post is an embarrassing reminder that the money they paid for your college experience (which certainly cannot be called an education) would have been put to better, more rewarding use by being utilized as toilet paper. Have they no sense of shame?

Solaratov on April 5, 2014 at 1:51 PM

many in the nation were fervent supporters of a hockey mom with lipstick who could see russia from her house, so not sure intelligence (or lack thereof) is a bar to public office…

nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM

At least we got a liberal to admit that Tina Fey is stupid.

Spliff Menendez on April 5, 2014 at 1:54 PM

It’s nothing new. Remember the evil Halliburton?

One could have fun researching ties to Clinton back then, and present day contracts with this administration.

I guess it’s all timing and where the money flows.

The right has plenty of ammo they never seem to use, because thier pockets get lined too.

I don’t know all that much about it. But enough to reconize the pattern.

wolly4321 on April 5, 2014 at 10:50 AM

That’s my cue!

Some Halliburton Fun Facts:

1. (Democrat) Lyndon Johnson climbed into bed with a future part of Halliburton, KBR, back in 1936, and never left. That’s years before Dick Cheney was even born.

During the Vietnam War, then-President LBJ gave Halliburton/KBR all sorts of no bid work, and his widow remained a member of the Board until she died a few years ago.

2. President Clinton also gave Halliburton no-bid work during his own War of Choice in the Balkans.

3. George Soros bought $61 million worth of Halliburton in 2006.

4. President O’bama gave Halliburton a no-bid contract in Iraq but changed his mind. The Democrats who run the Google search engine obliged and scrubbed all reference to this contract.

Del Dolemonte on April 5, 2014 at 1:55 PM

many in the nation were fervent supporters of a hockey mom with lipstick who could see russia from her house, so not sure intelligence (or lack thereof) is a bar to public office…

nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM

Never get tired of proving your abject ignorance, eh?

Go f*ck yourself.

Midas on April 5, 2014 at 2:00 PM

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