Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on April 5, 2014 by Allahpundit

Six years ago, when Eich donated to an anti-marriage equality initiative, less than 40% of Americans favored marriage for same-sex couples. Today 54% do, including nearly 70% of people ages 18-29. That latter number is particularly important to Mozilla because 1) no group goes online more than millennials, 2) no group supports marriage equality more than millennials, and 3) millennials are a significant portion of current and future employees. The Eich fallout is less about the First Amendment and more about a business not understanding its business…

Mozilla is an activist organization more than a money-making corporation. The Apples and Googles of the world can lure top young talent with money and perks. Mozilla’s recruiting success depends on its ability to sell its mission. Thus the effectiveness of the CEO rests heavily on his or her ability to foster a community, not just make a buck.

And generally speaking, discrimination is a community buzzkill.

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At this point, a tech company having a C.E.O. who opposes gay marriage is not all that different from a company in 1973 having a C.E.O. who donated money to fight interracial marriage: even if there were plenty of Americans who felt the same way at the time, the C.E.O. would still have been on the wrong side of history. And since the role of a C.E.O. as a public face of an organization is more important than ever these days, Eich’s personal views were inevitably going to shape his ability to run the company.

That’s especially true because of the unusual nature of Mozilla. Mozilla is not like most companies. It’s a wholly-owned subsidiary of the nonprofit Mozilla Foundation, and is just one part of the broader Mozilla community, which includes thousands of open-source software developers and other volunteers around the world. These people still do much of the work behind Mozilla’s products—contributing code, technical support, design improvements, and so on. This means that Mozilla depends on the goodwill of its supporters more than most corporations do; it relies on their willingness to donate their services in pursuit of the broader Mozilla project, which is all about keeping the Web transparent and accessible. If it alienates them, Mozilla’s entire mission will be at risk…

The real mystery here, then, is not why Eich stepped down but why he ever got hired in the first place.

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At Mozilla, the leadership’s main job isn’t to set a strategy that makes the firm a lot of money. The chief executive’s primary purpose is to hold a community together, and then to motivate it to do great things in the absence of a lot of money — all while competing for talent with firms like Apple, Google, and Microsoft, which shower workers with dollars and perks. Mozilla offers no stock options, no lavish perks, no hope of a billion-dollar acquisition. Instead, it offers its prospective employees a single overarching advantage: the chance to work on a mission.

In such an environment, it isn’t out of bounds to consider how a certain leader’s political views might affect employees’ passion for their mission. If the community’s cohesiveness is Mozilla’s primary advantage over its rivals, the fact that Mr. Eich’s views on gay marriage might have posed some danger to that community was almost by definition disqualifying. If his job was to motivate people, and he was instead causing people to question the community’s ethic—well, at the least, you can say he wasn’t doing a good job.

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The main accusation against Eich rests on his donation to Prop 8, a California law that prohibited gay marriage, five years ago. The argument goes that this is a reflection of his personal beliefs and this belief system runs contrary to the Foundation’s values of openness and tolerance.

Incidentally, as the Recode story mentions, Brendan Eich is a co-founder of the Mozilla Foundation. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that Eich had a hand in establishing the value framework there. Given the absence of demarcation between personal and professional lives, one can argue the openness and collaboration are also reflective of his personal beliefs.

The second problem with this approach are the ramifications of this ethic to workplace diversity. Research after research has shown the benefits of workplace diversity; an organization made up of employees with identical personal and professional beliefs is an organization in stasis. Great ideas are born out of diversity and exchange of opinions, howsoever uncomfortable and complicated they may be.

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I would never defend a homophobe—but does “pure hate” homophobia include dedicating oneself to outreach to “marginalized” LGBT developers, as Eich did almost immediately? Does Mozilla further its cause — privacy uber alles and the free flow of information — by making its pioneers into pariahs in social media, while issuing blatantly hypocritical statements which claim to treasure “religious diversity” at Mozilla? (And did anyone flinch when Mark Zuckerberg held GOP fundraisers?) Is what we want ”politically correct web browsing” where the Twittersphere and “socially conscious corporations” determine whose ideas are disseminated? Is this the open internet, or shall the open-source web be verboten to those “on the wrong side of history”?

It is undeniable that public opinion is rapidly shifting toward LGBT equality, marriage included. But it should be equally undeniable that the organization dedicated to the internet as “global public resource” should understand that the “global public” also contains people who—on their own time—espouse, advocate, and sometimes monetarily support foreign, even ugly, views. Brendan Eich, who “kept his views” (which he called irrelevant to his mission) on LGBT marriage “out of Mozilla for 15 years,” should not have his life’s work invalidated by bygone donations.

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It’s no surprise that this publicity stunt by OKCupid comes on the heels of Eich being promoted to CEO – apparently they were fine with his actions while he was just the CTO of Mozilla. While it’s a helpful thing to do to highlight homophobia and let the public know the kind of people they’re supporting, let’s not pretend that this was in the public’s best interests; Eich donated in 2008 and it’s been widely known for a long time. They could have dropped this ‘bombshell’ at any time but instead waited for maximum impact…

Building awareness of LGBTQ issues is always great but, so far, all that’s happened from this is that one man lost his job and OKCupid got worldwide attention again. But their publicity came at the price of one man’s personal and political choices. It isn’t right that Brendan Eich lost his job because of his personal beliefs, anymore than I should lose my job because I’m a lesbian.

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In addition to being evidence, redundant evidence, that progressives are for diversity in everything but thought, it’s an illustration of a new phenomenon. No one likes sore losers, but now we have sore winners. The gay rights movement is winning, particularly with regard to same-sex marriage, with a speed and breadth that simply takes your breath away. In Oklahoma and Utah and elsewhere. Yet unsatisfied with victory, they want to stamp out and punish people for their previous views.

This is relevant to an issue that is live in this town, that is campaign finance reform. And People who want to reform our finances and increase government control over political speech and spending say, ‘Well, everyone can surely be in favor of full disclosure of campaign contributions.’ This case is an example of why some of us who used to be for full disclosure no longer are. The people advocating full disclosure in campaign contributions say we just want voters to be able to make an informed choice. That’s not what they’re doing at all. They really want to enable themselves to mount punitive campaigns and to tear people and chill political speech.

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Both writers seem concerned that Eich’s resignation is a defeat for freedom of expression. If anything, it is a victory – the ouster of a founder and CEO by his own people, at a foundation based on open and equal expression, should be the new textbook example of the system working exactly as it should…

The end of Eich need not be a defeat for free expression, or an open culture. He was absolutely free to make his donation, to have his own beliefs, even to decline to discuss them. Mozilla’s supporters, advocates and, unusually, even its own employees were equally free to express their concerns, support or dismay at the choice. Mozilla was absolutely free to appoint anyone – whether nudist, buddhist, activist, or biblist – as CEO. It still is.

Yes, it’s messy. But that’s freedom for you.

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While 59 percent of Americans now support marriage equality, the same percentage opposed it just 10 years ago. In other words, today’s society is no longer a comfortable place for homophobes. And that’s a good thing.

But it won’t—and shouldn’t—necessarily end careers. Take the late Sen. Robert Byrd, who joined the Ku Klux Klan at a time when it had significant political clout across the American South. After years of publicly promoting virulently racist ideologies, Byrd came to see the harm he had caused, eventually noting in his memoir, “It has emerged throughout my life to haunt and embarrass me and has taught me in a very graphic way what one major mistake can do to one’s life, career, and reputation.” But he didn’t stop there. In fact, he never stopped apologizing, once saying in 2005: “I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times … and I don’t mind apologizing over and over again. I can’t erase what happened.” By acknowledging his past racism so candidly and emphatically, Byrd salvaged not just his career but also his dignity.

None of this means that the LGBTQ community shouldn’t hold people accountable for their actions. There is no congratulations owed for sharing past homophobia. We’ve come to expect the scripted apology after a famous athlete or celebrity lets slip a gay slur. So how do we measure actual sincerity in the aftermath of such an occurrence? By making room for reconciliation. The same patience and understanding that LGBTQ individuals have shown to homophobic family members, friends, congregations, and co-workers should extend to the public at large, even to CEOs who actively helped to overturn marriage equality—provided they want to make things right again.

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Even people who favor same-sex marriage and accept the civil-rights analogy, however, should think twice about the precedent being set by the Eich case. The civil-rights movement did not, in fact, conduct itself in this fashion. It did not seek to marginalize those who opposed it, or had reservations about it, when those holdouts made up more than a third of the population. It did not insist on public recantations by all of them.

The anti-racist consensus is today enforced through intense social pressure, but it wasn’t achieved that way. And it’s hard to see how the civil-rights movement would have succeeded had it adopted the purge as a tactic in, say, 1966.

Maybe today’s effort will be more successful. But it sure seems like an odd way to advance a healthy sense of “community.”

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Via RCP.

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Via the Corner.


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Mozilla makes up to a million dollars a day from Google because of the default search in Firefox going to Google (and its advertisements). This deal ends in Dec 2014 and Mozilla is planning to start including ads in the blank new tab/windows of Firefox.
And maybe other revenue generators. For now you can reconfigure your Firefox to use another search provider–I have had good results with duckduckgo.com over the past few years as the
google search results have decayed due to paid search results, search ads, and personal data mining at Google. – mozillian

Comment thread at Patterico

workingclass artist on April 5, 2014 at 9:35 PM

Changing the default search engine away from Google is a good idea if you want to keep using FF and not benefit them. Changing the user agent string to another browser isn’t a bad idea, either.

non-nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 11:03 PM

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 11:01 PM

LOVE Mars bars!!

Wait, what?

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:04 PM

non-nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 11:03 PM

Ixquick and Duck Duck Go here…

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:04 PM

Also, I turn off all automatic updating within FF.

non-nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 11:04 PM

Have you tried petting her, giving her a treat? Did you remember to feed her and change the water bowl?

CoffeeLover on April 5, 2014 at 10:59 PM

No, Ratso has been claiming all of my attention. Kitten just seems to lay around, avoid Ratso and lick her paws…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 11:04 PM

I just assumed the nest was incubating. My apologies.

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:57 PM

None necessary. I didn’t know if you recalled the riff a couple weekends back where I said that Mrs. Alien and I ate the kids.

But we’re spawn-less by choice. We had our galactic-traveling career to consider. You know, Mars ain’t the kind of place …

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Ah yes, I ‘member that…but it meant different things between cultures ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:06 PM

So is Naw! Naw! Naw! Not God bless AmeriKKKa, God damn AmeriKKKa…!!!!

Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 11:02 PM

I got to correct that. He kept saying things like, “It’s in the text,” and the translations read, “[unintelligible],” and I sent corrections in and got the text updated.

So, Jeremiah Wright diatribes, The “It’s in the text” in transcripts — all H/T Axe. :)

–Unless you aren’t talking about that, in which case, duh, hello, boots.

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 11:07 PM

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 11:03 PM

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LOL good one COL

CoffeeLover on April 5, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Ah yes, I ‘member that…but it meant different things between cultures ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:06 PM

“Eating one’s young” — unfortunately a figurative phrase in human culture.

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 11:09 PM

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 11:03 PM

[Grabs sham-wow to mop up coffee mess...hands COL jacket and welcomes her to The Club...]

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:10 PM

Ace reminds us that it is international pillow fight day.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 11:10 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:05 PM

Climb aboard, Sporky’s party train is leaving the station.

Party Train

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 11:10 PM

unfortunately a figurative phrase in human culture.

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 11:09 PM

o ****

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Ace reminds us that it is international pillow fight day.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 11:10 PM

Tell Ace that’s it’s his fault when someone gets their eye put out, and we’ll all be sorry.

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Ace reminds us that it is international pillow fight day.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 11:10 PM

it just

the spring canoodling just doesnt end

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 11:12 PM

Are you talking about the cat or the wife?

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 11:03 P

LOLZ! You really are a crank ol’ lady darlin’

I love you, glad you came aboard…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 11:12 PM

o ****

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Just imagine — you’re on a long car trip and the kids are acting up in the back seat. You turn around and in your sternest parent voice say,

“If I have to pull this car over, someone’s going to get eaten!”

You think they’re gonna keep it up?

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 11:14 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Heh. I soaked that french fry scooper in bleach and it is in the dishwasher as we speak. Just wish I’d thought to put the other dirty dishes in with it…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 11:15 PM

I love you, glad you came aboard…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 11:12 PM

You remind me of some of the hapless little boys I used to teach. I enjoyed them.

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 11:15 PM

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 11:09 PM

Lord knows there’s some out there who’s parents should’ve reconsidered their decision…

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:16 PM

The real mystery here, then, is not why Eich stepped down but why he ever got hired in the first place.

Ummm… he was a founder and the creator of javascript I’m given to understand. He wasn’t hired from outside, as the CTO, he was one of the tech brains that built the company.

All to be forced out because of the screeching of a an activist gay sub-community that wildly overestimates its value to Mozilla. Whats more they underestimate the positive qualities of a good man whose personal opinion has exactly zero instances of bigoted actions.

The gay mafia is as abhorrent to me as anti-gay bigots. A pox on both their houses.

Irritable Pundit on April 5, 2014 at 11:17 PM

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 11:15 PM

It’s not too late, OC–just stop the dishwasher, put the dirty dishes in it, refill the detergent dispenser and re-start it. ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 11:14 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:16 PM

I budded you into this world, and I can reabsorb you!

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Heh. I soaked that french fry scooper in bleach and it is in the dishwasher as we speak. Just wish I’d thought to put the other dirty dishes in with it…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 11:15 PM

It will be the cleanest tool in the drawer. Now try to stay out of trouble until she comes home.

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Ixquick and Duck Duck Go here…

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:04 PM

Anytime Google is deprived, it’s a good thing.

non-nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 11:18 PM

It’s not too late, OC–just stop the dishwasher, put the dirty dishes in it, refill the detergent dispenser and re-start it. ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Oh, OK. Gotcha. BBL…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Alls I know is that barrock KNOWS what iss like to be livin’ and workin’ in a country run by RICH. WHITE. PEEPLE!!

Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 11:18 PM

It’s not too late, OC–just stop the dishwasher, put the dirty dishes in it, refill the detergent dispenser and re-start it. ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Don’t tell him to do complicated things like that.

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Use denatured alcohol.

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Wrong, Skeezix. WD40.

Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Geez… what amateurs… Know what you adhesive is, know what your contact surface is before attempting to remove any adhesive.

Acetone will melt any 1,1tripolychloriaacitate.
Alcohol will melt any nitropolygelitate
Naptha will melt any paramethylchromite
Methonol will melt any polystyrithiniate

oscarwilde on April 5, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 11:14 PM

I HAVE pulled the car over, after making sure there was a policeman behind me, to get the kids to behave! Lord Bless FHP, MCPD and all of the other police departments that have unknowingly obliged to help get my Dear Sons to behave…at least for a few minutes. :-D

Ain’t nuthin’ like Mom pulling the car over then having a policeman come up to the window and ask if everything’s alright… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:20 PM

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 11:19 PM

I tried to make it easy for him, COL. Which word(s) threw him off?

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Sophie and I have decided not to have kids. Right now. Actually, strictly speaking, Sophie and I have decided that if I mention having kids, I lose my testicles. Actually, to speak even more strictly, Sophie decided that if I mentioned reproduction again, she would remove my testicles, and then informed me, in the form of a question, of her decision.

Our relationship is fantastic, but it has boundaries.

She’s a lawyer. She wrote them down.

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Heh. I soaked that french fry scooper in bleach and it is in the dishwasher as we speak. Just wish I’d thought to put the other dirty dishes in with it…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 11:15 PM

I can see circumstances where this does not end well… <— Insert maniacal laughter here…

oscarwilde on April 5, 2014 at 11:22 PM

Geez… what amateurs… Know what you adhesive is, know what your contact surface is before attempting to remove any adhesive.

Acetone will melt any 1,1tripolychloriaacitate.
Alcohol will melt any nitropolygelitate
Naptha will melt any paramethylchromite
Methonol will melt any polystyrithiniate

oscarwilde on April 5, 2014 at 11:20 PM

What about paint thinner and a blowtorch?

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 11:23 PM

The gay mafia is as abhorrent to me as anti-gay bigots. A pox on both their houses.

Irritable Pundit on April 5, 2014 at 11:17 PM

How many gay CEOs have the latter fired?

Schadenfreude on April 5, 2014 at 11:24 PM

oscarwilde on April 5, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Yeah, thanks O-Scar. Perhaps I should tell you the difference between molarity and molality.

Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 11:24 PM

oscarwilde on April 5, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Why do you think I suggested orange oil, Oscar? :P

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:24 PM

oscarwilde on April 5, 2014 at 11:20 PM

What about paint thinner and a blowtorch?

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 11:23 PM

That will melt pretty much anything…

oscarwilde on April 5, 2014 at 11:25 PM

Baby Blue.

Badfinger. The world’s most tragic band?

hawkdriver on April 5, 2014 at 11:25 PM

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Better used for antiquing, Dear Fenris

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:25 PM

You were implanted through a human esophagus, and I can feed you back through a human esophagus.

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 11:26 PM

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 11:21 PM

Supplied the notary and knows a judge, too, yes?

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:27 PM

Ain’t nuthin’ like Mom pulling the car over then having a policeman come up to the window and ask if everything’s alright… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:20 PM

It’s especially touchy when the officer looks into the back seat and notices the terrified look on the face of the one spawn remaining there.

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 11:27 PM

oscarwilde on April 5, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Yeah, thanks O-Scar. Perhaps I should tell you the difference between molarity and molality.

Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Bah… We don’t need no stink moles… <— Insert demented laughter here…

oscarwilde on April 5, 2014 at 11:28 PM

I found out what Kitten was wanting, affection and attention. She was rubbing and purring on me when I loaded the dishwasher, I scratched her head and petted her. She doesn’t usually care for me…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Sophie and I have decided not to have kids. Right now. Actually, strictly speaking, Sophie and I have decided that if I mention having kids, I lose my testicles. Actually, to speak even more strictly, Sophie decided that if I mentioned reproduction again, she would remove my testicles, and then informed me, in the form of a question, of her decision.

Our relationship is fantastic, but it has boundaries.

She’s a lawyer. She wrote them down.

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 11:21 PM

lol, is this thread banter or are you guys really a thing? :-)

hawkdriver on April 5, 2014 at 11:28 PM

That will melt pretty much anything…

oscarwilde on April 5, 2014 at 11:25 PM

Except the heart of a Democrat politician. Oh, they’ll pretend they got burnt and all, but the truth is they’re made of clinker and it has no affect.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 11:28 PM

More heads will roll.

Schadenfreude on April 5, 2014 at 11:29 PM

Supplied the notary and knows a judge, too, yes?

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:27 PM

She said that wasn’t necessary. She just left a pair of pruning shears on the table and said, “Sign.”

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 11:29 PM

No matter What You Do.

Badfinger MN Special.

hawkdriver on April 5, 2014 at 11:29 PM

I found out what Kitten was wanting, affection and attention. She was rubbing and purring on me when I loaded the dishwasher, I scratched her head and petted her. She doesn’t usually care for me…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 11:28 PM

She figures her favorite isn’t coming back and you’ll do. Or she’s asking you where she is.

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 11:30 PM

It’s not too late, OC–just stop the dishwasher, put the dirty dishes in it, refill the detergent dispenser and re-start it. ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Don’t tell him to do complicated things like that.

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 11:19 PM

I put in a Tide pod and some extra powder to make sure it is good and clean…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 11:30 PM

You were implanted through a human esophagus, and I can feed you back through a human esophagus.

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 11:26 PM

You humanist! I find that very offensive. I wouldn’t discuss the “ins and outs” of how you came about to be conceived on a public forum, now, would I?

Oh, wait, I just did … carry on.

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Except the heart of a Democrat politician. Oh, they’ll pretend they got burnt and all, but the truth is they’re made of clinker and it has no affect.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 11:28 PM

Bah… democrat ai9nt gots no heart to melt, can’t be done wiff nofin…

oscarwilde on April 5, 2014 at 11:31 PM

OK all my tech savvy friends. Can anyone recommend a search engine that is run or invented by conservatives? Google Chrome is super leftist, bing leans left and I uninstalled Mozilla. How I wish some conservative geek would build the browser version of Fox News. How delicious if half the country that are conservative could vote with our feet and leave these leftist browsers in the dust.

neyney on April 5, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Better used for antiquing, Dear Fenris

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:25 PM

I dated a gal once who liked to go antiquing. I tried to like it, really I did. If she had let me use a blowtorch while we were wandering around looking at stuff it would’ve been a lot more fun.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 11:29 PM

You got the better part of that deal, Axe…

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:31 PM

I have really enjoyed this tonight. You all made me laugh and I needed to laugh. I have to go to bed.

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Who will be fired now?

Schadenfreude on April 5, 2014 at 11:32 PM

She figures her favorite isn’t coming back and you’ll do. Or she’s asking you where she is.

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 11:30 PM

I need to be nice to her. I swiped her from a bad family and brought her in during the bitter winter eight years ago. She is a champion mouser…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Harry Nilsson – Without You

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:30 PM

This was always my favorite Nilsson song.

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 11:33 PM

G’night COL. You are a real doll…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 11:34 PM

Harry Nilsson – Without You

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:30 PM


(Badfinger Song)

hawkdriver on April 5, 2014 at 11:35 PM

I need to be nice to her. I swiped her from a bad family and brought her in during the bitter winter eight years ago. She is a champion mouser…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 11:32 PM

Christmas Eve one year a black kitten came to my door and wanted in. Turned out later on I found out he had belonged to the hillbillies next door. They went away for Xmas and left him outside with no food in winter. I had him a couple of years and he died mysteriously.

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 11:36 PM

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Niters and sleep well, COL! Hope you feel better in the morning!

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:36 PM

Bad Company – Bad Company

RickB on April 5, 2014 at 11:36 PM

neyney on April 5, 2014 at 11:31 PM

I don’t know duckduckgo’s politics, but I like them because they don’t keep track of your searches. If you get an ad based on your search, it’s only for the search you just did, not a history of searches that alters your results or ads.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 11:37 PM

oscarwilde on April 5, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Exaxtly. I tried to tell Lanceman that but her was too busy tickling his pickle and Merming people.

I wuv B9 the way he wuvs Pickles.

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 11:37 PM

hawkdriver on April 5, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Would make for an interesting night of music, Hawk–like “Who Did It Better?”

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:38 PM

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 11:36 PM

Why do awful people acquire good pets? Kitten is an outstanding and mellow cat…
I do not regret swiping her and giving her a good life, even if I am second best…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 11:39 PM

This was always my favorite Nilsson song.

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 11:33 PM

It’s a good one.

non-nonpartisan on April 5, 2014 at 11:39 PM

RickB on April 5, 2014 at 11:36 PM

*smooooch!*

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:39 PM

Hollies

Long Cool Woman.

hawkdriver on April 5, 2014 at 11:40 PM

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 11:39 PM

I’d relax and enjoy that tonight you’re THE Best, OC…

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:40 PM

I’d relax and enjoy that tonight you’re THE Best, OC, if I were you…

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:40 PM

*whew!*

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:41 PM

What about paint thinner and a blowtorch?

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 11:23 PM

Know what makes a good blowtorch? Hairspray and a lighter. Just sayin.’

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 11:41 PM

WILDCATS TO PLAY FOR NUMBER NINE!!!!!

GO BIG BLUE!!!!

ConstantineXI on April 5, 2014 at 11:42 PM

oscarwilde on April 5, 2014 at 11:20 PM

Exaxtly. I tried to tell Lanceman that but her was too busy tickling his pickle and Merming people.

I wuv B9 the way he wuvs Pickles.

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 11:37 PM

And now he’s trying to molerate the whole subject…

oscarwilde on April 5, 2014 at 11:42 PM

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 11:37 PM

That’s one reason I like ixquick, Fenris.

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:42 PM

LOVE Mars bars!!

Wait, what?

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:04 PM

what??..you made me promise not to say a word about it…sheesh..

on another note..
look to the west and you’ll enjoy Jupiter…just above the moon..

http://neave.com/planetarium/

going2mars on April 5, 2014 at 11:43 PM

hawkdriver on April 5, 2014 at 11:35 PM

Would make for an interesting night of music, Hawk–like “Who Did It Better?”

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:38 PM

Well, Nilsson covered it to a billboard hit. But it was a Pete Ham song. Who do you think did it better?

hawkdriver on April 5, 2014 at 11:44 PM

WILDCATS TO PLAY FOR NUMBER NINE!!!!!

GO BIG BLUE!!!!

ConstantineXI on April 5, 2014 at 11:42 PM

Should be a good game.

kcewa on April 5, 2014 at 11:44 PM

I highly recommend tea partiers watch the following debates with Nigel Farage from last week, you’ll really enjoy them both and probably pick up some great ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkhtn_NtDZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd9rsmD4HiM

FloatingRock on April 5, 2014 at 11:45 PM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on April 5, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:41 PM

Thanks darlin’
You have been a lifesaver tonight. Kitten is in my lap and doesn’t seem to mind my smoking in the house, she is purring like a motor. I will air the house out in the morning…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Joe Walsh – Life’s Been Good

RickB on April 5, 2014 at 11:46 PM

Hey dire…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 11:47 PM

look to the west and you’ll enjoy Jupiter…just above the moon..

http://neave.com/planetarium/

going2mars on April 5, 2014 at 11:43 PM

If you have a thing for big gas-balls …

Mars, on the other hand, is not the kind of place …

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 11:47 PM

Boston Pops performs ON ON U OF K

Kentucky Fight Song

On! On! U of K

On, on, U of K, we are right for the fight today,
Hold that ball and hit that line;
Ev’ry Wildcat star will shine;
We’ll fight, fight, fight, for the blue and white
As we roll to that goal, Varsity,
And we’ll kick, pass and run, ’till the battle is won,
And we’ll bring home the victory.

NINE!!!!!!

ConstantineXI on April 5, 2014 at 11:47 PM

The theme song of our clumsy bigfoot IT guy “Mike”

BOC Godzilla.

hawkdriver on April 5, 2014 at 11:48 PM

Enemy of the State

Watch the Fox special, this weekend, same title.

You’ll really hate your gov’t.

Schadenfreude on April 5, 2014 at 11:48 PM

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