Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on April 5, 2014 by Allahpundit

Six years ago, when Eich donated to an anti-marriage equality initiative, less than 40% of Americans favored marriage for same-sex couples. Today 54% do, including nearly 70% of people ages 18-29. That latter number is particularly important to Mozilla because 1) no group goes online more than millennials, 2) no group supports marriage equality more than millennials, and 3) millennials are a significant portion of current and future employees. The Eich fallout is less about the First Amendment and more about a business not understanding its business…

Mozilla is an activist organization more than a money-making corporation. The Apples and Googles of the world can lure top young talent with money and perks. Mozilla’s recruiting success depends on its ability to sell its mission. Thus the effectiveness of the CEO rests heavily on his or her ability to foster a community, not just make a buck.

And generally speaking, discrimination is a community buzzkill.

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At this point, a tech company having a C.E.O. who opposes gay marriage is not all that different from a company in 1973 having a C.E.O. who donated money to fight interracial marriage: even if there were plenty of Americans who felt the same way at the time, the C.E.O. would still have been on the wrong side of history. And since the role of a C.E.O. as a public face of an organization is more important than ever these days, Eich’s personal views were inevitably going to shape his ability to run the company.

That’s especially true because of the unusual nature of Mozilla. Mozilla is not like most companies. It’s a wholly-owned subsidiary of the nonprofit Mozilla Foundation, and is just one part of the broader Mozilla community, which includes thousands of open-source software developers and other volunteers around the world. These people still do much of the work behind Mozilla’s products—contributing code, technical support, design improvements, and so on. This means that Mozilla depends on the goodwill of its supporters more than most corporations do; it relies on their willingness to donate their services in pursuit of the broader Mozilla project, which is all about keeping the Web transparent and accessible. If it alienates them, Mozilla’s entire mission will be at risk…

The real mystery here, then, is not why Eich stepped down but why he ever got hired in the first place.

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At Mozilla, the leadership’s main job isn’t to set a strategy that makes the firm a lot of money. The chief executive’s primary purpose is to hold a community together, and then to motivate it to do great things in the absence of a lot of money — all while competing for talent with firms like Apple, Google, and Microsoft, which shower workers with dollars and perks. Mozilla offers no stock options, no lavish perks, no hope of a billion-dollar acquisition. Instead, it offers its prospective employees a single overarching advantage: the chance to work on a mission.

In such an environment, it isn’t out of bounds to consider how a certain leader’s political views might affect employees’ passion for their mission. If the community’s cohesiveness is Mozilla’s primary advantage over its rivals, the fact that Mr. Eich’s views on gay marriage might have posed some danger to that community was almost by definition disqualifying. If his job was to motivate people, and he was instead causing people to question the community’s ethic—well, at the least, you can say he wasn’t doing a good job.

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The main accusation against Eich rests on his donation to Prop 8, a California law that prohibited gay marriage, five years ago. The argument goes that this is a reflection of his personal beliefs and this belief system runs contrary to the Foundation’s values of openness and tolerance.

Incidentally, as the Recode story mentions, Brendan Eich is a co-founder of the Mozilla Foundation. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that Eich had a hand in establishing the value framework there. Given the absence of demarcation between personal and professional lives, one can argue the openness and collaboration are also reflective of his personal beliefs.

The second problem with this approach are the ramifications of this ethic to workplace diversity. Research after research has shown the benefits of workplace diversity; an organization made up of employees with identical personal and professional beliefs is an organization in stasis. Great ideas are born out of diversity and exchange of opinions, howsoever uncomfortable and complicated they may be.

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I would never defend a homophobe—but does “pure hate” homophobia include dedicating oneself to outreach to “marginalized” LGBT developers, as Eich did almost immediately? Does Mozilla further its cause — privacy uber alles and the free flow of information — by making its pioneers into pariahs in social media, while issuing blatantly hypocritical statements which claim to treasure “religious diversity” at Mozilla? (And did anyone flinch when Mark Zuckerberg held GOP fundraisers?) Is what we want ”politically correct web browsing” where the Twittersphere and “socially conscious corporations” determine whose ideas are disseminated? Is this the open internet, or shall the open-source web be verboten to those “on the wrong side of history”?

It is undeniable that public opinion is rapidly shifting toward LGBT equality, marriage included. But it should be equally undeniable that the organization dedicated to the internet as “global public resource” should understand that the “global public” also contains people who—on their own time—espouse, advocate, and sometimes monetarily support foreign, even ugly, views. Brendan Eich, who “kept his views” (which he called irrelevant to his mission) on LGBT marriage “out of Mozilla for 15 years,” should not have his life’s work invalidated by bygone donations.

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It’s no surprise that this publicity stunt by OKCupid comes on the heels of Eich being promoted to CEO – apparently they were fine with his actions while he was just the CTO of Mozilla. While it’s a helpful thing to do to highlight homophobia and let the public know the kind of people they’re supporting, let’s not pretend that this was in the public’s best interests; Eich donated in 2008 and it’s been widely known for a long time. They could have dropped this ‘bombshell’ at any time but instead waited for maximum impact…

Building awareness of LGBTQ issues is always great but, so far, all that’s happened from this is that one man lost his job and OKCupid got worldwide attention again. But their publicity came at the price of one man’s personal and political choices. It isn’t right that Brendan Eich lost his job because of his personal beliefs, anymore than I should lose my job because I’m a lesbian.

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In addition to being evidence, redundant evidence, that progressives are for diversity in everything but thought, it’s an illustration of a new phenomenon. No one likes sore losers, but now we have sore winners. The gay rights movement is winning, particularly with regard to same-sex marriage, with a speed and breadth that simply takes your breath away. In Oklahoma and Utah and elsewhere. Yet unsatisfied with victory, they want to stamp out and punish people for their previous views.

This is relevant to an issue that is live in this town, that is campaign finance reform. And People who want to reform our finances and increase government control over political speech and spending say, ‘Well, everyone can surely be in favor of full disclosure of campaign contributions.’ This case is an example of why some of us who used to be for full disclosure no longer are. The people advocating full disclosure in campaign contributions say we just want voters to be able to make an informed choice. That’s not what they’re doing at all. They really want to enable themselves to mount punitive campaigns and to tear people and chill political speech.

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Both writers seem concerned that Eich’s resignation is a defeat for freedom of expression. If anything, it is a victory – the ouster of a founder and CEO by his own people, at a foundation based on open and equal expression, should be the new textbook example of the system working exactly as it should…

The end of Eich need not be a defeat for free expression, or an open culture. He was absolutely free to make his donation, to have his own beliefs, even to decline to discuss them. Mozilla’s supporters, advocates and, unusually, even its own employees were equally free to express their concerns, support or dismay at the choice. Mozilla was absolutely free to appoint anyone – whether nudist, buddhist, activist, or biblist – as CEO. It still is.

Yes, it’s messy. But that’s freedom for you.

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While 59 percent of Americans now support marriage equality, the same percentage opposed it just 10 years ago. In other words, today’s society is no longer a comfortable place for homophobes. And that’s a good thing.

But it won’t—and shouldn’t—necessarily end careers. Take the late Sen. Robert Byrd, who joined the Ku Klux Klan at a time when it had significant political clout across the American South. After years of publicly promoting virulently racist ideologies, Byrd came to see the harm he had caused, eventually noting in his memoir, “It has emerged throughout my life to haunt and embarrass me and has taught me in a very graphic way what one major mistake can do to one’s life, career, and reputation.” But he didn’t stop there. In fact, he never stopped apologizing, once saying in 2005: “I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times … and I don’t mind apologizing over and over again. I can’t erase what happened.” By acknowledging his past racism so candidly and emphatically, Byrd salvaged not just his career but also his dignity.

None of this means that the LGBTQ community shouldn’t hold people accountable for their actions. There is no congratulations owed for sharing past homophobia. We’ve come to expect the scripted apology after a famous athlete or celebrity lets slip a gay slur. So how do we measure actual sincerity in the aftermath of such an occurrence? By making room for reconciliation. The same patience and understanding that LGBTQ individuals have shown to homophobic family members, friends, congregations, and co-workers should extend to the public at large, even to CEOs who actively helped to overturn marriage equality—provided they want to make things right again.

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Even people who favor same-sex marriage and accept the civil-rights analogy, however, should think twice about the precedent being set by the Eich case. The civil-rights movement did not, in fact, conduct itself in this fashion. It did not seek to marginalize those who opposed it, or had reservations about it, when those holdouts made up more than a third of the population. It did not insist on public recantations by all of them.

The anti-racist consensus is today enforced through intense social pressure, but it wasn’t achieved that way. And it’s hard to see how the civil-rights movement would have succeeded had it adopted the purge as a tactic in, say, 1966.

Maybe today’s effort will be more successful. But it sure seems like an odd way to advance a healthy sense of “community.”

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Via RCP.

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Via the Corner.


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Cats love to play with strings. An old shoelace is good. Keep one at hand in case you need to catch Ratso again. It might only work a couple of times until he catches on.

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 10:21 PM

Good idea, COL. Sometimes I cannot even tie my shoes without Ratso attacking and biting and kicking…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:23 PM

close call.

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:22 PM

Saved again.

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 10:23 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Got any more hotties? The last one you sent was smokin.

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:24 PM

To hell with “tolerance” it does not exist if it’s one sided and full on delusional or authoritarian in nature. Which is basically what these fed judges are doing these days with homosexual marriage. Your opinion does not matter if you believe in well let’s call it what it is natural reproduction…

sorrowen on April 5, 2014 at 10:25 PM

So Alphapundit is pro homosexual marriage despite the fact it has zero biological use outside of giving divorce lawyers more money.

sorrowen on April 5, 2014 at 10:12 PM

I really do not care about gay marriage one way or they other. I care about freedom.

If some town or state wants to recognize gay marriage.. go for it. You are free to leave that state. If another town or state wants to ban it.. go for it. You are free to leave that state.

I am a Christian.. but no man is Jesus. So.. until he returns we will never have perfect government so I will error in the side of freedom.. let each man, community, town, city and state determine how they choose to live.,

JellyToast on April 5, 2014 at 10:25 PM

He’ll puke it up only if it doesn’t agree with his (it’s?) delicate tummy, OC. And guess who will get to clean it up–unless you have a doggie around…

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:22 PM

I’m not the type to clean up something like that. If it is a bachelor weekend I’ll just leave it until it dries…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:25 PM

^ That guy. :)

lol — “Fascist liar.”

You used to get to laugh like that every other day. :) I was beginning to think you killed them all. I dunno — maybe it’s just the off season. I just haven’t seen you get to romp like that since Cabo.

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 10:20 PM

That guy is an oldie from Townhall. Despite his stated vaunted intellect, he has yet to recognise who it is with whom he is dealing.

You’re right. It’s been a while, but there’s a lot of caked Troll blood on Ed’s banhammer. In the case of survival of the fittest, we can see exactly what would happen to them.

Resist We Much on April 5, 2014 at 10:25 PM

In a lesbians case I guess it’s $&@ sex…man I’m still shocked that community was big brother in their bedroom which is why im against. Why do you want big brother in their bedroom Alphapundit?

sorrowen on April 5, 2014 at 10:20 PM

What? Try again as I like to talk about Lesbians…with or without lipstick.

HonestLib on April 5, 2014 at 10:25 PM

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:22 PM

Could’ve been worse…could’ve had the alarm set for break time and the notification set to “Vibrate”…works wonders when you’re among a group of people and your phone goes off… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:26 PM

Late to the party; still using Firefox…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 9:08 PM

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Same here. Did I miss the usual calling-out? Or is that passe these days?

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 10:12 PM

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Sort of . . . . .
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Late to the party; still using Firefox…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 9:08 PM

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I bet you’re “ghey”.

listens2glenn on April 5, 2014 at 9:18 PM

listens2glenn on April 5, 2014 at 10:27 PM

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:25 PM

You DO like living dangerously, don’t you. Have you priced ideas for redoing the basement yet?

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:28 PM

Cats love to play with strings. An old shoelace is good. Keep one at hand in case you need to catch Ratso again. It might only work a couple of times until he catches on.

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 10:21 PM

They catch on, in fact they know already. But the string is magic. They cannot resist the string. I’ve found orange paracord works best, something about the neon color, and the claws stick in it. They like that. If there’s some grass around left growing 2-3 feet high, that works too.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 10:28 PM

Attention K-Mart shoppers, BLUE light special, Caked Troll blood cleanser on sale now, aisle 10.

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:28 PM

What? Try again as I like to talk about Lesbians…with or without lipstick.
HonestLib on April 5, 2014 at 10:25 PM Lesbians aren’t hot as this isn’t the L word and gay pride pradas are kind of like magic mike just with more bad acting.

sorrowen on April 5, 2014 at 10:30 PM

I’m not the type to clean up something like that. If it is a bachelor weekend I’ll just leave it until it dries…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:25 PM

And then pretend you didn’t see it. I know all about it.

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 10:30 PM

So if you disagree with the Gay-stasi, you’re a so called “homophobe”.

Kjeil on April 5, 2014 at 10:30 PM

Yes, it’s messy. But that’s freedom for you.

Freedom my arse in the way Kim Jung Un gets 100 percent of the vote is democracy. It’s straight up Brownshirt bullying, and the hypocrisy of not asking Obama to step down is STAGGERING. Pile on that steaming load the OKStupid is still heavily relying on the evil homophobic emotionally painful and anguishing software code javascript, and you have the reason why Dante wrote his masterpiece.

John the Libertarian on April 5, 2014 at 10:31 PM

You DO like living dangerously, don’t you. Have you priced ideas for redoing the basement yet?

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:28 PM

I would never redo the basement, I like it just fine as it was built 132 yrs ago. I’d sweep up the dried puke before I got caught letting it dry out. We have hardwood oak floors…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:32 PM

The homosexual rights groups took some lessons from Stalin and Moa and Marx.

sorrowen on April 5, 2014 at 10:32 PM

To the guy who wondered about Pale Moon – it uses the Firefox engine. At the moment it’s still pretty much FF in new clothes. The developer will likely evolve it further away from FF over time.

There’s rumor going around that FF 29 will now have a feature that prevents it from running in households where a man and woman have exchanged vows. The sticking point apparently is that the version can’t distinguish between vows and separation agreements.

Skip2014 on April 5, 2014 at 10:33 PM

Attention K-Mart shoppers, BLUE light special, Caked Troll blood cleanser on sale now, aisle 10.

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:28 PM

That reminds me of something I read recently.

I can’t quite place it.

I’m thinking of Sophie in thigh-high boots and probably will be for the rest of the night, but I get an extra neuron, I’m using it to try to remember that.

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 10:34 PM

And then pretend you didn’t see it. I know all about it.

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 10:30 PM

Yeah, that too…
I found the deep fryer thing and scooped the litter box today…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:35 PM

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:24 PM

You’re on your own, Sparkie ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:35 PM

i remember

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 10:35 PM

omg — i think sparkplug is hestering

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 10:36 PM

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:32 PM

You might want to reconsider letting it sit there and dry, OC–hardwood oak flooring is a PITA to resand and varnish.

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:37 PM

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:35 PM

Two words: Clorox Bleach.

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:38 PM

OC–hardwood oak flooring is a PITA to resand and varnish.

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:37 PM

Yeah, I remember doing these floors when we moved here, a lot of work…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:39 PM

Two words: Clorox Bleach.

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:38 PM

Won’t that make a mark?

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 10:39 PM

Attention K-Mart shoppers, BLUE light special, Caked Troll blood cleanser on sale now, aisle 10.

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:28 PM

Attention passengers! Welcome to the fundamentally transformed U.S. of A. As you work your way through the current state of America, for you own safety please make sure that any inconvenient facts and associated criticisms are stored neatly within yourself. Otherwise, Pharaoh Hussein Louie Obamalini, the IRS SS, the ever expanding and all seeing [except when it comes to actual terrorists] BIG STASI NSA, and the always dedicated TSA Gropestapo and their newly invigorated branch called the Gaystapo, and if necessary the ever expanding DroneForce, will come to help you reorder your priorities. You are welcome to file a complain via the soon to be Islamic regulated Internet. We apologize if your federal officials cannot respond to every inquiry. They may merely be previously committed to representing other more lucrative interests more relevant to their own pocketbooks and their own secrecy. And as always, have a nice day and think happy thoughts as because of your wonderful and caring government you are safe and protected and all of your thinking is being done for you.

Cheshire Cat on April 5, 2014 at 10:39 PM

omg — i think sparkplug is hestering

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 10:36 PM

What is hestering? Whenever I hear the name Hester, I think of the Scarlet Letter.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 10:39 PM

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:35 PM

that made me spittle out my coffee!

CoffeeLover on April 5, 2014 at 10:39 PM

Two words: Clorox Bleach.

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:38 PM

Oh, I just threw it away with the litter…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:40 PM

Thank you Stanley tools for gluing a giant sticker to the transparent lid on the product I bought today. Your stupid sticker wouldn’t come off easily. And it left a huge splotch of glue residue.

Cripes how many gallons of glue did you use to affix the stupid label?

Fortunately I had some denatured alcohol and I decimated all your glue and got my lid to be transparent the way it is supposed to be.

I bet you are pissed off I won’t have to look at the Stanley tools sticker anymore. BTW its in the garbage.

I can see through the lid now you idiots. I dare you to glue some more stuff for me to buy. I got an arsenal of solvents in case you are brave enough to pull your glue trick again.

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:40 PM

no Clorox on Oak Floors please.

CoffeeLover on April 5, 2014 at 10:41 PM

Oh, I just threw it away with the litter…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:40 PM

D’oh! Guess I need to get a new one and replace it…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:41 PM

But honestLib the homosexual movement is more based on emotionalism rather then actual logic it’s based on feeling good and giving divorce lawyers more work. Jane Lynch recently split from her “wife” again the divorce lawyer got paid well but that’s all this “movement” is good for.

sorrowen on April 5, 2014 at 10:42 PM

What is hestering? Whenever I hear the name Hester, I think of the Scarlet Letter.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 10:39 PM

I’M SO GLAD YOU ASKED THAT. :)

One sec. I have to go find it.

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 10:42 PM

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 10:34 PM

Yowza. Thigh high boots. Yowza.

Betcha MG has on her Stetson and Cowgirl boots. What if that was all. Yowza.

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:42 PM

Hustering = Hustling + Huckstering (as I understand it).

Resist We Much on April 5, 2014 at 10:43 PM

omg — i think sparkplug is hestering

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 10:36 PM

Na, He’s just going through a premature ignition phase…

oscarwilde on April 5, 2014 at 10:43 PM

You have been missed my young Edgar suit. Hey, don’t touch my shotgun.

HonestLib on April 5, 2014 at 10:18 PM

Is that what you’re calling it now? OK, making a mental note.

Yo, HL … last I recall, you were having a touch of the ol’ human blues a few back.

It makes me more detached than usual, like I’m back to my old alien self again, looking in from above at the moment we’re merged with the body that has just been vacated by the poor unfortunate soul. It’s usually an easy task to repair the damage, though, and the human vessel proves worthy for at least the remainder of a typical life-span …

The “powers-that-be” decided that it would be best for field researchers to really take on the identity of the native species, thus becoming imbedded and immersed in the culture and …

They just didn’t realize the drawbacks of suffering through the human afflictions that aren’t familiar to our kind. It can be quite … unsettling.

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 10:43 PM

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 10:39 PM

It won’t mark up the *ahem!* deep-fryer thingy anywhere NEAR as much as Dear Mrs OC will if/when she finds out what OC used it for and didn’t properly render it useful for human consumption again, COL ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 10:36 PM

Na, He’s just going through a premature ignition phase…

oscarwilde on April 5, 2014 at 10:43 PM

lolz. It helps to think about baseball.

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Some of you people are absolutely insane. I like it.

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 10:45 PM

CoffeeLover on April 5, 2014 at 10:41 PM

God Forbid!!

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:45 PM

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:41 PM

Flea markets are open tomorrow, right?

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 10:42 PM

You won’t find it, RWM already took it.

Hustering = Hustling + Huckstering (as I understand it).

Resist We Much on April 5, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Thanks …but it sounds a little awkward to me. Lewis Carroll’s neologisms were never awkward.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 10:47 PM

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Sign posted in Mens’ Room:

We aim to please!
You aim too, please!

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:47 PM

It won’t mark up the *ahem!* deep-fryer thingy anywhere NEAR as much as Dear Mrs OC will if/when she finds out what OC used it for and didn’t properly render it useful for human consumption again, COL ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Where do I go get a new one tomorrow to replace it before I am busted? Please don’t say WalMart or the mall. I want an in and out type place?

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Do not use acetone or nail polish remover to remove sticky labels. It will FUBAR everything beyond recognition. True the sticker will come off but it FUBARS everything beyond recognition.

Use denatured alcohol.

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:49 PM

What is hestering? Whenever I hear the name Hester, I think of the Scarlet Letter.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 10:39 PM

I apologize. :) “Hustering.” –lol

Remember when you and the Diversity and Tolerance Brigade© were going to put the so-called ‘stupid-racist-sexist-homophobic-Islamophobic-xenophobic-home-schooled-dirt-eating-snake-handling-brother-marrying-deer-shooting-squirrel-eating-hick-n-hustering-trailer-park-living-moonshine-running-meth-cooking-one-tooth-brushing-single-hair-comb-overing-blue-plate-’n-light-special-luvin’-stand-at-attention-WalMart-shopping-ignorant-untravelled-flag-waving-cry-in-my-beers-with-Lee-Greenwood-Teabag-waving-guns-n-Bibles-bitter-clinging Neanderthalic Chick-fil-A out of business?’

Resist We Much on April 4, 2014 at 4:20 PM

^ I fahnd this vaguely, I say vaguely offensive.

Because, “hustering.”

. . . whateveh that maht mean.

Axe on April 4, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Don’t get your knickers in a twist. I just – off the top of my head one day – wrote down the litany of epithets that the ‘Diversity and Tolerance Brigade©’ have spewed at their opponents over the years.

‘Hustering’ is something like hustling and huckstering combined or something.

Resist We Much on April 4, 2014 at 5:21 PM

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Could be worse…you could be female, in the throes of major PMS, jonesin’ for chocolate, but Dear Male Partner’s taken the car out, the stores are closed and the nearest 7-11 is five miles away…

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Some of you people are absolutely insane. I like it.
crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 10:45 PM
Only borderline but hey I try lol

sorrowen on April 5, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Where do I go get a new one tomorrow to replace it before I am busted? Please don’t say WalMart or the mall. I want an in and out type place?

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:48 PM

Why did you use that anyway. There must be something for that.

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 10:50 PM

lol — “or something.” :)

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Use denatured alcohol.

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Wrong, Skeezix. WD40.

Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Johnny Cash – For The Good Times

kcewa on April 5, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Yea, but it has been quite expensive for me…..Only drug I have never kicked is wimmen. Ain’t really complaining. Chuckle!

HonestLib on April 5, 2014 at 9:35 PM

Holding onto money is like trying to hold onto sand…but I get all twitchy and stoopid without her!

Spliff Menendez on April 5, 2014 at 10:51 PM

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Orange oil can work, too. I had a mini-Picasso who thought the walls made a fantastic canvas for his crayons…

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:51 PM

Hustering = Hustling + Huckstering (as I understand it).

Resist We Much on April 5, 2014 at 10:43 PM

See I can multi-task.

/Fredo voice

/Not Frodo voice

/Fredo Corleone voice

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Why did you use that anyway. There must be something for that.

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Cause it looked like it would work, and it did. I don’t know where we keep the plastic pooper-scooper. I thought I was doing good by scooping the shit and piss balls…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Good to see you, Alien! Our best to Dear Mrs Alien and all the Li’l Aliens!

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:14 PM

Good to be exchangin’ with ya again, Newtie. You do know that there are no little Aliens, don’t you?

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:49 PM

Call 9-1-1?

kcewa on April 5, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Where do I go get a new one tomorrow to replace it before I am busted? Please don’t say WalMart or the mall. I want an in and out type place?

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:48 PM

I’m sorry the maid has tomorrow off, OC, but you’re just going to have to bite the bullet, put your blinders on and go for it, Darlin’. Check online to see if your store carries what you’re looking for first, though, so it will be as painless on your wallet as possible.

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:53 PM

Wrong, Skeezix. WD40.

Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 10:50 PM

Hey WD40 didn’t work. And I have to Super Straw can version

But maybe I need to rub harder.

/That’s what she said.

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:54 PM

2) no group supports marriage equality
“marriage equality” … My G-d!! I am so sick of these fake, lying euphemisms that the left continues to make up (and that others actually entertain and use). Pro-choice, illegal immigrant, undocumented immigrant, global warming, climate change, …
WTFFF? Of course no one can stop these self-hating nihilists from making these stupid lying terms up but it is infuriating that they get taken into the public discussion by people who ought to know better.
It is “gay pretend marriage”. Period. It isn’t “marriage”. It’s just pretend, the same way that they can pretend that they can produce a family with their gay partner.
Enough, already.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 5, 2014 at 9:49 PM

You’re tired of euphemisms and yet you used the biggest one? “Gay” means happy and joyous and NOTHING ELSE.

Nutstuyu on April 5, 2014 at 10:54 PM

You won’t find it, RWM already took it.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 10:47 PM

She does make off with stuff. :)

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 10:54 PM

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Lighter fluid then, Sporky.

Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Another thing, Kitten (the older female cat) has been meowing at me all night at my feet. Unusual behavior from her, what does she want or need?

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Call 9-1-1?

kcewa on April 5, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Lots of clock glaring going on, for sure! And then there were the kids to consider…

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:55 PM

I have goo gone. Didn’t try it. Its smelly.

I’ll get Orange Oil because Newtie knows her stuff.

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:55 PM

OC….good luck with that. I’ve been looking for the replacement for the little clear expresso pot that goes under the machine for ages. They expect me to buy a new one!

Finding replacement parts for household appliances in stores is near impossible these days.

CoffeeLover on April 5, 2014 at 10:56 PM

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Lighter fluid then, Sporky.

Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 10:55 PM

What about Zima? That might work.

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:56 PM

Where do I go get a new one tomorrow to replace it before I am busted? Please don’t say WalMart or the mall. I want an in and out type place?

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:48 PM

The other girls are going to hate this but I suggest you scrub it up good and put it away and never say anything about it. I won’t tell.

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 10:56 PM

What is hestering? Whenever I hear the name Hester, I think of the Scarlet Letter.

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 10:39 PM

I apologize. :) “Hustering.” –lol

Typos are par for the course, but you’re right: typos that remind me of Jr. High School require apologies. ;)

Fenris on April 5, 2014 at 10:57 PM

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 10:52 PM

No, I didn’t, Dear Alien. I just assumed the nest was incubating. My apologies.

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:57 PM

piss balls

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:52 PM

Probably need to have that looked at.

~crosses legs in horror~

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 10:58 PM

You’re in trouble OC, if the misses is a cook. She’ll know her tools. Better find the make of the old one and then track down who has that brand in the area. I’m telling you, it had better match perfectly or she WILL know.
Why do we always seem to be getting you out of these types of messes? I seem to remember something about perfume….

Doc Holliday on April 5, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Finding replacement parts for household appliances in stores is near impossible these days.

CoffeeLover on April 5, 2014 at 10:56 PM

Yep. How I know. I remember when magic 8 ball needed a new gasket and diaphragm. Couldn’t find one anywhere. But I looked on Craig’s list and SWalker had all the parts I needed.

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:58 PM

Lighter fluid then, Sporky.

Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Oh, HELL no!! Cooking oil should might do the trick.

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:58 PM

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Have you tried petting her, giving her a treat? Did you remember to feed her and change the water bowl?

CoffeeLover on April 5, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Doc Holliday on April 5, 2014 at 10:58 PM

I suggested Clorox, Doc…you’re the human bugaboo expert, though.

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:59 PM

The other girls are going to hate this but I suggest you scrub it up good and put it away and never say anything about it. I won’t tell.

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 10:56 PM

Thank you darlin’

I’ll go fish it out of the trash.
I guess I am a complete failure. Better buy roses tomorrow afternoon and have them waiting…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Zima fixes everything.

It’s in the Bible.

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 11:00 PM

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Take her out to dinner at a new restaurant and she’ll never suspect a thing…

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:00 PM

And then there were the kids to consider…

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Mars ain’t the kind of place to raise your kids

Alien on April 5, 2014 at 11:01 PM

I’m a libertarian conservative, or vice versa, and I don’t care what gays and other consenting adults do in private as long as they’re not hurting anybody. I support the separation of church and state and think that the government does not belong in the marriage business. In that respect I think that if gays want to form a union and call it a marriage, maybe join a new-age church and have a marriage ceremony, that’s fine with me, they can call it whatever they want.

However, to me personally a marriage is about raising children and is inherently between men and women. I actually don’t support the redefinition of the term “marriage”, I think that the word is already spoken for and the effort to redefine it is less about civil rights and more about an attack on religious liberty. (I’m not religious but support religious liberty). IMO the evolutionary advantage that marriage provided was the sharing of resources and labor for the purpose of raising children. While I support the rights of gays to form unions and call it marriage I don’t think they have the right to force anybody else to recognize it as such.

I love Firefox. I’ve been using it for years and have recommended it here at HotAir several times. After Edward Snowden blew the whistle on the NSA I’ve become a full convert to open-source software and no longer trust close-source software. I think the entire world should switch to open-source in light of what the NSA and other governments are doing along with their corporate partners; none of which can be trusted. Open source is the future of software. With regard to hardware, I’m not sure how we can make sure that it hasn’t been corrupted, but I hope there is a way to stop fascism and preserve liberty and privacy.

I’m hoping that after the voluminous negative feedback Mozilla has been receiving this weekend they will realize their mistake and reinstate Eich with full pay, benefits and his promotion intact early next week, the sooner the better. There should be no punishment levied against him whatsoever because he has done nothing wrong. Thought crimes are un-American. I want Mozilla to set things right so that I can continue using their excellent browser indefinitely.

They should reinstate Eich then get back on track and keep up the heretofore good work.

FloatingRock on April 5, 2014 at 11:01 PM

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Might be false heat.

Brat on April 5, 2014 at 11:01 PM

Doc Holliday on April 5, 2014 at 10:58 PM

I dug it out of the garbage and soaking it in bleach. It is Ecko…

OmahaConservative on April 5, 2014 at 11:01 PM

You’re tired of euphemisms and yet you used the biggest one? “Gay” means happy and joyous and NOTHING ELSE.

Nutstuyu on April 5, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Meh. Along those lines, “gay” also means ‘stupid and ridiculous’ – “That’s so gay.”

But, I’ll stand in the corner for my infraction, anyway.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 5, 2014 at 11:01 PM

I suggested Clorox, Doc…you’re the human bugaboo expert, though.

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Clorox it, then stick it in the dishwasher and run the washer, full or not. Then you can pretend to have “found” it. And all teh evidence will be gone! <——insert evil oscarwilde laughter here.

Doc Holliday on April 5, 2014 at 11:02 PM

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 10:55 PM

Check the furniture polish, Sparkie–some of the current ones have orange oil in it. I used Orange-Glo to get bubble gum up off tile floor, in a pinch.

Newtie and the Beauty on April 5, 2014 at 11:02 PM

It’s in the Bible.

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 11:00 PM

So is Naw! Naw! Naw! Not God bless AmeriKKKa, God damn AmeriKKKa…!!!!

Lanceman on April 5, 2014 at 11:02 PM

Have you tried petting her, giving her a treat? Did you remember to feed her and change the water bowl?

CoffeeLover on April 5, 2014 at 10:59 PM

Are you talking about the cat or the wife?

crankyoldlady on April 5, 2014 at 11:03 PM

Zima fixes everything.

It’s in the Bible.

Axe on April 5, 2014 at 11:00 PM

So funny. Hey RWM, Axie is funny. But the reciprocal of my IQ is still way higher.

SparkPlug on April 5, 2014 at 11:03 PM

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