Video: “Thousands of cases” of voter fraud in North Carolina

posted at 12:41 pm on April 3, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

What happens when voter-registration officials get updates on death certificates and records from other states? In North Carolina, they find massive voter fraud. As many as 35,000 North Carolina voters may have voted in another state in the 2012 election, and Republicans are claiming vindication for their efforts to tighten voter-ID checks:

The audit showed 155,692 registered North Carolina voters whose first and last names, dates of birth and last four digits of their Social Security number match those of voters registered in other states, but who most recently registered or voted elsewhere.

A total of 35,750 voters with matching first and last names and date of birth were registered in North Carolina and another state, and voted in both states in the 2012 general election.

Another 765 voters with an exact match of first and last name, date of birth and last four digits of their Social Security number were registered and voted in the 2012 general election in North Carolina and another state.

“We have fraud and error vulnerabilities in our election system. The fact that we potentially have thousands of people voting in more than one state greatly concerns me,” said Rep. David Lewis, chairman of the Joint Legislative Oversight Committee and the lead author of the Voter Identification and Verification Act.

Another 81 voters are confirmed to have “voted” after the date of their death in 2012. That’s a pretty neat trick, one usually not seen outside the confines of Chicago. The issue of voter-ID requirements was the topic of a New York Times article this week, which Jazz Shaw criticized for its assumption that the law was designed to make it harder for people to vote. Perhaps this data will have them reconsidering their editorial spin on the story … but don’t bet on it.

The actual number of these cases may decline downward from 35,750, as they may contain genuine coincidences and some errors in data entry. But the scope of the matches suggest that the final number won’t be limited to three digits, either. Guy Benson says this is part of a pattern emerging from the lack of competent protections against fraud at the ballot box:

Several weeks ago, we highlighted a 2012 report out of Florida in which a local reporter took it upon himself to use a single, extremely narrow method to ferret out voter fraud. By cross-referencing Florida’s voter rolls with jury duty cards on which people had checked a box declining to serve due to their non-citizen status, the NBC correspondent pinpointed nearly 100 ineligible voters in his county alone. Several admitted on camera to (a) not being US citizens, and (b) voting in US elections. “I vote every year!” one woman boasted. Last week, the California State Senate voted to suspend three Democratic members, one of whom was recently convicted of eight felonies, including multiple counts of voter fraud. Yet the “myth” of voter fraud remains solidly ensconced within the Left’s political catechism. Voter fraud undeniably exists. The extent to which it exists remains unclear, as the stunning results of North Carolina’s audit demonstrate. Voter ID laws reflect common sense, are constitutional, and are overwhelmingly popular. I’ll leave you with the Democrat Party Chairwoman openly celebrating a court decision that halted a Republican-initiated effort to purge a swing state’s voter rolls of ineligible and non-citizen voters. She tweeted this hours before the North Carolina story broke:

Democrats want “more participation, not less” — even if that increased participation results in fraud that undermines our electoral system, apparently. I wonder why?

Perhaps they should start answering that question. And maybe the cross-checks should involve all 50 states, and not just the 28 that participated in this audit.


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After what we found out about the IRS and NSA, as well as widespread irregularities found in voting (such as precincts that recorded more votes than they had eligible voters, ZERO votes for Romney, etc) Obama is NOT legitimately the President right now.

How could he be?

ConstantineXI on April 3, 2014 at 12:47 PM

If it happened there, in that amount, it happened all over the nation and in larger amounts.

The Obama Chicago Thug campaign syndicate doesn’t do things like this just in one state or one precinct. It’s nationwide and 35k votes are just the tip of the iceberg.

Meople on April 3, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Perhaps they should start answering that question. And maybe the cross-checks should involve all 50 states, and not just the 28 that participated in this audit.

Voters should be required to register every year and only allowed to vote in person on the day of the election showing a picture ID.

Kaffa on April 3, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Impossible. Can’t happen. More likely to be invaded by space aliens.

Midas on April 3, 2014 at 12:50 PM

This…is how other nations are better than us.

22044 on April 3, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Voters should be required to register every year and only allowed to vote in person on the day of the election showing a picture ID.

Kaffa on April 3, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Yep.

Midas on April 3, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Michael Walsh,” The democrats are an organized crime syndicate masquerading as a political party”.

celtic warrior on April 3, 2014 at 12:52 PM

They laugh behind our backs and elbow each other for what they get away with while they call us tin-foiled idiots to our face.

hawkdriver on April 3, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Anybody else now having problems seeing the embedded videos here at HA (I’m using FireFox with Adblock Plus)?

ShainS on April 3, 2014 at 12:52 PM

mmm obama won FL by less than 74,000 votes. Easily within the margin of fraud.

HumpBot Salvation on April 3, 2014 at 12:53 PM

What vote fraud? I’ve been told vote fraud does not exist. This surely can’t be true.

nullrouted on April 3, 2014 at 12:54 PM

I there some way to check which party these voters were registered as?
Dimes will get you donuts that a D will be next to their names!

LeftCoastRight on April 3, 2014 at 12:54 PM

You’re more likely to get struck by Lightning, than
have Voter Fraud occur

Leftist Jackazz.

ToddPA on April 3, 2014 at 12:54 PM

urban effetist, please pick up the Courtesy Phone and tell us this is not “significant” voter fraud…

(Starts Snowdial #2,194)

Del Dolemonte on April 3, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Suck it NC Dems…. this is not the snipe hunt you’re always mouthing off about.

SteveInRTP on April 3, 2014 at 12:57 PM

After what we found out about the IRS and NSA, as well as widespread irregularities found in voting (such as precincts that recorded more votes than they had eligible voters, ZERO votes for Romney, etc) Obama is NOT legitimately the President right now.

How could he be?

ConstantineXI on April 3, 2014 at 12:47 PM

I don’t know how you feel about ‘conspiracy theories’ in general… but as far as I’m concerned, the 2012 election (and possibly the 2008 democratic primary) had the die cast before a single vote was tallied.

nullrouted on April 3, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Waiting for some troll to tell us – yet again – that voter fraud is so rare there is no need for the new NC Voter ID law.

Step right up, morons, get smacked into next week.

PJ Emeritus on April 3, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Maybe the purple thumb is not a bad idea.

docflash on April 3, 2014 at 12:59 PM

I could easily have voted not only in my current state of residence, but at least two others by absentee ballot, if I’d wanted to. I’ve informed both, more than once in writing, that I no longer reside in the state (have been gone from one for about 15 years and the other over 25!) – but I’m still on their roles as a registered voter and periodically get postcards that manage to find me from them to that effect. There could be other states too, but I’ve never checked.

It’s absurd and asinine that our voting system isn’t far less open to fraud. And the current state of affairs sure makes most people I know feel that their vote counts for far less, when they know that it’s possible for voter fraud by illegal aliens, dead people, and multiple votes by the same person to occur.

Rational Db8 on April 3, 2014 at 12:59 PM

So what? Yeah, we may finesse a few votes from very recently deceased Democrats (they were going to vote our way anyway) and a few folks get well-deserved Bonus votes, but this is a drop in the bucket compared to all the Democrat voters who are prevented from voting due to racist laws requiring ID cards (obviously aimed at black voters). Not to mention the millions and millions of Democrat votes lost due to confusing ballots, vague voting instructions and often bewildering directions to voting stations.

I didn’t even get into the subject of voter intimidation at the polling places…

Frank Lib on April 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Video: “Thousands of cases” of voter fraud in North Carolina

…that’s one state!…look at some of the margins around the country where JugEars won…oh!…and 7.1 million people signed up for O’Care!
…the MSM and the House and the courts are complicit…in our destruction!

KOOLAID2 on April 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM

only allowed to vote in person on the day of the election

Kaffa on April 3, 2014 at 12:48 PM

No. There should only be one day of voting, but absentee ballots must be allowed, or you deny a lot of people (including our military) the right to vote at all.

GWB on April 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Waiting for some troll to tell us – yet again – that voter fraud is so rare there is no need for the new NC Voter ID law.

Step right up, morons, get smacked into next week.

PJ Emeritus on April 3, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Patience, Grasshopper! They’re waiting for their Talking Points, because they’re too stupid to think for themselves…

Del Dolemonte on April 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Kay Hagan is behind…until the dead are counted.

Schadenfreude on April 3, 2014 at 1:02 PM

Here in Minnesota, one recent election year saw:

– over 1000 felon’s vote.
– something like 6000 same-day registration cards with undeliverable.
– two counties with more votes than registered voters.

All under the watchful eye of a Secretary of State bought and paid for by George Soros.

Ricard on April 3, 2014 at 1:02 PM

I didn’t even get into the subject of voter intimidation at the polling places in Philly by the (Democrat) New Black Panthers…

Frank Lib on April 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Fixed.

Del Dolemonte on April 3, 2014 at 1:02 PM

But I thought Jimmy Carter observed the 2012 elections and certified they were legitimate?

Pqlyur1 on April 3, 2014 at 1:02 PM

Frank Lib on April 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM

You were doing great until you went a little overboard on the last sentence. I’ve always lived by the rule that reeling slower catches more fish

Ditkaca on April 3, 2014 at 1:03 PM

mmm obama won FL by less than 74,000 votes. Easily within the margin of fraud.

HumpBot Salvation on April 3, 2014 at 12:53 PM

The average Democrat margin of election fraud is at least 100,000 votes in a state that large, depending on the carrying capacity of Democrat poll worker’s cars.

ConstantineXI on April 3, 2014 at 1:04 PM

FWIW, Obama didn’t win North Carolina in 2012. Romney won it by two points.

Ed Morrissey on April 3, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Not to mention the millions and millions of Democrat votes lost due to confusing ballots, vague voting instructions and often bewildering directions to voting stations.

I didn’t even get into the subject of voter intimidation at the polling places…

Frank Lib on April 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM

…are you calling some people….dumb ?
…how many New Black Panther members are there… at the polling stations?

KOOLAID2 on April 3, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Kay Hagan is behind…until the dead are counted.

Schadenfreude on April 3, 2014 at 1:02 PM

Democrats are likely to actually vote against her this time, but I’d still like to have the margin of a clean vote.

SteveInRTP on April 3, 2014 at 1:04 PM

So what? Yeah, we may finesse a few votes from very recently deceased Democrats (they were going to vote our way anyway) and a few folks get well-deserved Bonus votes, but this is a drop in the bucket compared to all the Democrat voters who are prevented from voting due to racist laws requiring ID cards (obviously aimed at black voters). Not to mention the millions and millions of Democrat votes lost due to confusing ballots, vague voting instructions and often bewildering directions to voting stations.

I didn’t even get into the subject of voter intimidation at the polling places…

Frank Lib on April 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Well played sir… well played. I really enjoy the satire you provide around here.

nullrouted on April 3, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Impossible. Can’t happen. More likely to be invaded by space aliens.

Midas on April 3, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Well Slick Willie Clinton just claimed that alien lifeforms are a good probability.

Joy Reid and MSDNC hardest hit.

HumpBot Salvation on April 3, 2014 at 1:06 PM

FWIW, Obama didn’t win North Carolina in 2012. Romney won it by two points.

Ed Morrissey on April 3, 2014 at 1:04 PM

True, but I’d like to know my dog-catcher to Senator actually deserve to be there.

SteveInRTP on April 3, 2014 at 1:06 PM

re: “Anybody else now having problems seeing the embedded videos here at HA (I’m using FireFox with Adblock Plus)?

ShainS on April 3, 2014 at 12:52 PM”

For whatever it’s worth, ShainS, I haven’t noticed any problems that way, and am on windows 7, firefox 27, and adblock plus. I have, however, recently noticed a few cases elsewhere where a blank space shows up where a video ought to be – but deactivating adblock plus doesn’t make a difference, and I see no “handle” for a blocked item… often just refreshing the page loads the video properly. I’ve also notice some cases where going to “full screen” no longer goes full screen but instead leaves the tab bar and task bar showing, and I get a window asking permission to use full screen (accept or deny buttons with a check box for “remember”) That’s very irritating and I think has to do with some new version of html or flash format that’s not widely used yet, but I’m not sure.

Rational Db8 on April 3, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Voter fraud is voter suppression.

Imrahil on April 3, 2014 at 1:07 PM

As many as 35,000 North Carolina voters may have voted in another state in the 2012 election

 

So you’re saying 30,000 gun deaths and injuries is not significant?
 
urban elitist on August 7, 2013 at 9:31 PM

 
(And don’t forget we still have to multiply the voter fraud number by 57 to reach an approximate nationwide amount.)

rogerb on April 3, 2014 at 1:07 PM

There are studies that show you are literally 35,750 times more likely to be beamed up by a UFO than find a case of voter fraud.

V7_Sport on April 3, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Another 81 voters are confirmed to have “voted” after the date of their death in 2012. That’s a pretty neat trick, one usually not seen outside the confines of Chicago.

I’m the first one to want to shaft the Dems for their open and notorious support for voter fraud. But when criticizing them, we gain nothing by being sloppy. On the matter of the dead voters, this piece from NRO shines a little light on these dead voters.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/374882/nc-state-board-finds-more-35k-incidents-double-voting-2012-andrew-johnson

Meanwhile, the election board’s executive director, Kim Westbrook Strach, told lawmakers that 81 deceased North Carolinians apparently voted in 2012 as well. While some appear to have submitted absentee ballots prior to their death, she said “there are between 40 and 50 who had died at a time that that’s not possible.”

In short, you can’t fault a voter for submitting an absentee ballot and then dying before the election. I assume that in a recount the votes of those who die between submitting the absentee ballot and the election are negated. Regarding those voters who “voted” absentee when they had died before issuance of absentee ballots, their relatives should be investigated, prosecuted, and convicted. But let’s get the story straight.

BuckeyeSam on April 3, 2014 at 1:09 PM

They laugh behind our backs and elbow each other for what they get away with while they call us tin-foiled idiots to our face.

hawkdriver on April 3, 2014 at 12:52 PM

You got that right. I think about this all the time, especially with regard to the numerous scandals.

tru2tx on April 3, 2014 at 1:10 PM

…but this is a drop in the bucket compared to all the Democrat voters who are prevented from voting due to racist laws requiring ID cards (obviously aimed at black voters). Not to mention the millions and millions of Democrat votes lost due to confusing ballots, vague voting instructions and often bewildering directions to voting stations.

Frank Lib on April 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Prime example of libtards’ innate Racism!

UnstChem on April 3, 2014 at 1:10 PM

FWIW, Obama didn’t win North Carolina in 2012. Romney won it by two points.

Ed Morrissey on April 3, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Remove the margin of Democrat vote fraud and he won by at least 5 points.

ConstantineXI on April 3, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Voter fraud is voter suppression.

Imrahil on April 3, 2014 at 1:07 PM

That’s the slogan that should be repeatedly chanted.

BuckeyeSam on April 3, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Voters should be required to register every year and only allowed to vote in person on the day of the election showing a picture ID.

Kaffa on April 3, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Yep.

Midas on April 3, 2014 at 12:50 PM

I would go along with that if you allow re-registeration at the polls
on election day.

conservative tarheel on April 3, 2014 at 1:11 PM

So what? Yeah, we may finesse a few votes from very recently deceased Democrats (they were going to vote our way anyway) and a few folks get well-deserved Bonus votes, but this is a drop in the bucket compared to all the Democrat voters who are prevented from voting due to racist laws requiring ID cards (obviously aimed at black voters). Not to mention the millions and millions of Democrat votes lost due to confusing ballots, vague voting instructions and often bewildering directions to voting stations.

I didn’t even get into the subject of voter intimidation at the polling places…

Frank Lib on April 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM

This has to be the most laughable, funniest post from a troll ever.

So you’re admitting that yes, the Democrat party is deliberately engaging in voter fraud, yet you’re defending it because we’re making you do it in order to win? And the racist laws you’re pointing out are the ones to eliminate the very fraud you’re perpetrating?

You’re hilarious.

itsspideyman on April 3, 2014 at 1:11 PM

A total of 35,750 voters with matching first and last names and date of birth were registered in North Carolina and another state, and voted in both states in the 2012 general election.

The usual excuse for voting twice is that “they were afraid their first vote wouldn’t be counted”

J_Crater on April 3, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Remember 1960?

From the Far-Right Washington Post, November 17, 2000:

In Chicago, where Kennedy won by more than 450,000 votes, local reporters uncovered so many stories of electoral shenanigans–including voting by the dead — that the Chicago Tribune concluded that ‘the election of November 8 was characterized by such gross and palpable fraud as to justify the conclusion that [Nixon] was deprived of victory.”

-snip-

A Republican National Committee member filed suit to challenge the Chicago results. The case was assigned to Circuit Court Judge Thomas Kluczynski, a Daley machine loyalist.

On Dec. 13, Kluczynski dismissed the Republican suit. Less than a year later, on Mayor Daley’s recommendation, Kennedy appointed Klyczynski to the federal bench.

Ultimately, a special prosecutor, Morris Wexler, was appointed to investigate the Chicago fraud allegations. Wexler brought charges against 650 election officials but a Democratic judge’s pro-defense rulings crippled Wexler’s case and the charges were dropped.

Finally, in 1962, after an election judge confessed to witnessing vote tampering in Chicago’s 28th ward, three precinct workers pled guilty and served short jail terms.

-snip-

Americans will probably never know for certain if the Democrats stole the election of 1960. But Earl Mazo is pretty sure they did.

‘There’s no question in my mind that it was stolen,’ he says. ‘It was stolen like mad. It was stolen in Chicago and in Texas.’

Back in 1960, Mazo, now 81, was the Washington-based national political correspondent for the New York Herald Tribune. After the election, he kept getting calls from reporter friends in Chicago who told him wild stories of election fraud there.

‘They were in effect chastising me,’ he recalls, saying, ‘You national reporters, you’re missing the story, why don’t you come out and look?’

So Mazo went out and looked. He went to Chicago, obtained lists of voters in precincts that seemed suspicious and started checking their addresses.

‘There was a cemetery where the names on the tombstones were registered and voted,’ he’ recalls. ‘I remember a house. It was completely gutted. There was nobody there. But there were 56 votes for Kennedy in that house.’

-snip-

After investigating Illinois, Maxo headed for Texas, where he documented similar electoral shenanigans. With visions of a Pulitzer Prize dancing in his head, Mazo began writing what he and his editors envisioned as a 12-part series on election fraud. By mid-December, he had published four parts and they’d been reprinted in papers across the country, including The Washington Post.

Then Mazo got a call from Nixon. Mazo knew the vice president. He’d interviewed Nixon extensively for a biography he published in 1959. Now, Nixon asked Mazo come to his office in the Capitol.

When Mazo arrived, the two men chatted for a while and then Nixon asked Mazo to stop writing his series. He told Mazo the country couldn’t afford a constitutional crisis at the height of the Cold War.

‘I thought he was kidding but he was serious,’ Mazo recalls. ‘I looked at him and thought, ‘He’s goddamn fool.’

Failing to convince Mazo, Nixon called reporter’s bosses at the Herald Tribune. ‘He impplored them to stop running the damn thing,’ Mazo recalls.

Apparently, the vice president was convmcing. Mazo’s editor pulled him off the story.

‘Nobody told me why,’ he says. ‘I know I was terribly disappointed. I envisioned the Pulitzer Prize, for chrissakes.’

-snip-

But there was no recount and Kennedy was inaugurated. Not long after that, a still angry Sen. Dirksen called Cartha DeLoach who was then assistant director of the FBI. Dirksen demanded that the FBI evidence that the election was stolen.

‘I told him that the Department of Justice was investigating this,’ DeLoach recalls, ‘I referred him to the attorney general.’

At that point, Dirksen asked, sarcastically, ‘Who’s the attorney general?’

‘Bobby Kennedy,’ DeLoach replied.

Dirksen slammed down the phone”

Del Dolemonte on April 3, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Here in Minnesota, one recent election year saw:

– over 1000 felon’s vote.
– something like 6000 same-day registration cards with undeliverable.
– two counties with more votes than registered voters.

All under the watchful eye of a Secretary of State bought and paid for by George Soros.

Ricard on April 3, 2014 at 1:02 PM

You folks will never out do Jesse Ventura. (Please, Please don’t try.)

V7_Sport on April 3, 2014 at 1:12 PM

but this is a drop in the bucket compared to all the Democrat voters who are prevented from voting due to racist laws requiring ID cards (obviously aimed at black voters). Not to mention the millions and millions of Democrat votes lost due to confusing ballots, vague voting instructions and often bewildering directions to voting stations.

Frank Lib on April 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Prime example of libtards’ innate Racism!

UnstChem on April 3, 2014 at 1:10 PM

It’s conservatives keeping inner city Democrats in failed government schools, and it’s certainly not conservatives forcing Democrats to reproduce with stupid people.

ConstantineXI on April 3, 2014 at 1:13 PM

Frank Lib on April 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Hi, Bish. Give our best to the missus.

CurtZHP on April 3, 2014 at 1:13 PM

So what? Yeah, we may finesse a few votes from very recently deceased Democrats (they were going to vote our way anyway) and a few folks get well-deserved Bonus votes, but this is a drop in the bucket compared to all the Democrat voters who are prevented from voting due to racist laws requiring ID cards (obviously aimed at black voters). Not to mention the millions and millions of Democrat votes lost due to confusing ballots, vague voting instructions and often bewildering directions to voting stations.

I didn’t even get into the subject of voter intimidation at the polling places…

Frank Lib on April 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Ha ha ha ha.

Trolls got to troll.

gwelf on April 3, 2014 at 1:13 PM

Sounds like Space Aliens that former president Clinton said are likely to visit Earth are already here.
And they vote.

TimBuk3 on April 3, 2014 at 1:14 PM

Frank Lib on April 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM

I like how you roll.

22044 on April 3, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Let me guess, the vast majority voted D. While the voter ID laws will help I think, the crux of the problem is we don’t have an overall system to identify who has voted where. You could use ID in more than one state, or you can send in a absentee ballot.

If they could fix the healthcare website as fast as they did they can certainly make a system to keep track of voters, where they voted, if they are legally allowed to vote (non felon citizens who are not dead)

We have the technology to identify fingerprints. We have facial identification. Let’s use it.

If people start not trusting the system our democracy has no real meaning, and I for one don’t trust the system.

Annielou on April 3, 2014 at 1:15 PM

So what? Yeah, we may finesse a few votes from very recently deceased Democrats (they were going to vote our way anyway) and a few folks get well-deserved Bonus votes, but this is a drop in the bucket compared to all the Democrat voters who are prevented from voting due to racist laws requiring ID cards (obviously aimed at black voters). Not to mention the millions and millions of Democrat votes lost due to confusing ballots, vague voting instructions and often bewildering directions to voting stations.

I didn’t even get into the subject of voter intimidation at the polling places…

Frank Lib on April 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Hey look, it’s a liberal who says black voters are too incompetent to get a photo ID and to read ballots, unlike the white GOP voters apparently seem to do.

The obvious bigotry of low expectations.

gwelf on April 3, 2014 at 1:16 PM

We need a voter fraud ad that shows a cut diligent boy or girl campaigning for class rep to student council only to lose to the class thug because kids from other classes and other schools are allowed to vote in the single class’s election.

Slogan: At any level and in any election, voter fraud is dishonest, un-American, and no laughing matter.

Close the ad with the diligent kid dejected from the loss.

I can be disappointed with a loss in an honest election, but phuck any cheaters in a dishonest election. I think they should be summarily executed.

BuckeyeSam on April 3, 2014 at 1:18 PM

mmm obama won FL by less than 74,000 votes. Easily within the margin of fraud.

HumpBot Salvation on April 3, 2014 at 12:53 PM

Yup, just about every pollster, including the pollsters for the Romney and Obama campaigns were stunned that Obama won Florida.

GOPRanknFile on April 3, 2014 at 1:19 PM

Umm, this “double voting” would NOT be stopped by Voter ID. IF true – this would be wrong and illegal. BUT – many people have the same first and last names. AND often times a simple clerical error is involved. But this has nothing to do with voter ID laws.
More attention will need to be paid to this story to see how many cases there actually were – could be double or triple digits and not in the thousands. (Still too many.)

Gebeaux on April 3, 2014 at 1:19 PM

I didn’t even get into the subject of voter intimidation at the polling places…

Frank Lib on April 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Bye Bishop

Hi Frank Lib

Schadenfreude on April 3, 2014 at 1:20 PM

There are studies that show you are literally 35,750 times more likely to be beamed up by a UFO than find a case of voter fraud.

V7_Sport on April 3, 2014 at 1:07 PM

There was also a study claiming that George W. Bush was the stupidest President ever.

Low-IQ Democrat Airhead Bill Press fell for that one!

In six years in the White House, George W. Bush has screwed up so many things, you have to wonder: Is he unlucky or incompetent?

Well, now we know.

Thanks to the Lovenstein Institute of Scranton, Pennsylvania, which just released a study of the IQ of twelve American presidents, over the last 50 years. And the results are – well, not surprising.

The average IQ of six Republican presidents – Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush 41, and Bush 43 – was 115.5. President Nixon topped the list, at 155.

The average IQ of six Democratic presidents – Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, and Clinton – was 156. With President Clinton leading the class at 182.

The smartest president of the last 50 years?

You guessed it: Bill Clinton, with his 182 IQ.

The least intelligent president of the last 50 years?

You guessed it again: George W. Bush, with his rock bottom IQ of 91: seven points lower than his Daddy.

Only one problem:

No, this isn’t a real news report, nor does it describe a real study. There isn’t a “Lovenstein Institute” in Scranton, Pennsylvania (or anywhere else in the USA), nor do any of the people quoted in the story exist, because this is just another spoof that was taken too seriously.

The article quoted above began circulating on the Internet during the summer of 2001. In furtherance of the hoax, later that year pranksters thought to register http://www.lovenstein.org and erecting a web site around it in an attempt to fool people into thinking there really was such an institute.

Bill Pull soon issued a Non-Apology:

“This parting shot is dedicated to all those hundreds of people who emailed me about Bush’s IQ.

Okay, I’ll make a deal with you.

I’ll admit I was wrong. I goofed. I cited a study ranking George Bush as having the lowest IQ of any of the last 12 presidents. Bill Clinton, scoring the highest. As I later discovered, that study was bogus. There is no so-called Lovenstein Institute.

Again, I’ll admit I was wrong.”

“But you’ve got to admit: It sure is believable. Does anybody doubt that Bill Clinton’s the smartest – and George Bush is the dumbest? Just look at his record.

Iraq. That dumbbell took us to war to get rid of WMD that didn’t even exist.

The Middle East. He’s so dumb he doesn’t know the first step toward ending a war is for both sides to stop shooting.

Global warming. Miami will be underwater before he realizes there’s a problem.

The budget. He couldn’t balance a budget if his job depended on it. Too bad it doesn’t.

See what I mean? Who needs a study? It’s self-evident.

George Bush is not only the dumbest of all 12 presidents since World War II.

He’ll go down in history – as the dumbest president…ever!”

Del Dolemonte on April 3, 2014 at 1:20 PM

Meanwhile the Left’s grievance theater troupe of malcontents have been giving regular performances at our state capital because of mean ol’ McRory and the GOP passing voter ID.

MJBrutus on April 3, 2014 at 1:20 PM

Hey look, it’s a liberal who says black voters are too incompetent to get a photo ID and to read ballots, unlike the white GOP voters apparently seem to do.

The obvious bigotry of low expectations.

gwelf on April 3, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Exactly. I guess they can follow all the paperwork involved in getting an EBT card, but getting a voter ID card is too difficult. Strange that.

Kaffa on April 3, 2014 at 1:22 PM

I didn’t even get into the subject of voter intimidation at the polling places…

Frank Lib on April 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Please don’t forget your sarc tag next time. I was nearly fooled!

Surely dem voters are not too challenged to find a polling location or to provide a shred of identification. Polling places offer voting assistance to voters who you say are confused by the ballot. In fact, I’ll wager a good portion of the volunteers are probably fellow travelers.

freedomfirst on April 3, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Hey look, it’s a liberal who says black voters are too incompetent to get a photo ID and to read ballots, unlike the white GOP voters apparently seem to do.

The obvious bigotry of low expectations.

gwelf on April 3, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Exactly. I guess they can follow all the paperwork involved in getting an EBT card, but getting a voter ID card is too difficult. Strange that.

Kaffa on April 3, 2014 at 1:22 PM

*Pssst. Guys. You’re being played.*

bigmacdaddy on April 3, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Voters should be required to register every year and only allowed to vote in person on the day of the election showing a picture ID.

…and a signed 1040. ;-)

wmichaels1 on April 3, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Dewey probably did win.

crankyoldlady on April 3, 2014 at 1:24 PM

re: Del Dolemonte on April 3, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Link?

Rational Db8 on April 3, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Dems do not want fair elections, they want only victories. They have no shame and only wish to win and stay in power, doesn’t matter how they do it. Two recent examples- Coleman vs Franken and angle vs Reid. All fraud. Just like the Commie in chief-campaigned on a fraud, elected twice on a fraud, governs on a fraud.

rjoco1 on April 3, 2014 at 1:26 PM

IMO, a Dem voting for another (either once or multiple times) is one fraud voting for another.

vnvet on April 3, 2014 at 1:27 PM

gwelf on April 3, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Commmere kid. I’ll take the hook out for ya.

katy the mean old lady on April 3, 2014 at 1:27 PM

35,000?

That’s a whole lot of DooDad Pro’s.

HumpBot Salvation on April 3, 2014 at 1:28 PM

Are we supposed unregister ourselves when we move? Where do we go to do that if that is the case. Does this mean I am registered to vote in all the place I have lived still going back 30 years? I wonder if I am one of the 155,000 number, but I did not register to vote in NC until May 2013 when I became a permanent resident of the state.

astonerii on April 3, 2014 at 1:28 PM

re: Del Dolemonte on April 3, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Link?

Rational Db8 on April 3, 2014 at 1:25 PM

It’s embedded near the top of my post, just click the line that reads:

Low-IQ Democrat Airhead Bill Press fell for that one!

Del Dolemonte on April 3, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Dewey probably did win.

crankyoldlady on April 3, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Your comment reminded me…

O/T: The other day on O’Reily, Waters’ World asked people on the street who was president during WWII. Seemed that the answer they were looking for was FDR. I believe they forgot about Truman. He dropped the big one…two of them.

freedomfirst on April 3, 2014 at 1:33 PM

I didn’t even get into the subject of voter intimidation at the polling places…

Frank Lib on April 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Yeah, I hear ya. Especially in these large urban areas. Republicans control all those polling places. /{cough}

TarheelBen on April 3, 2014 at 1:35 PM

Hagen in trouble

Schadenfreude on April 3, 2014 at 1:38 PM

It always amazes me the way the left expresses outrage over the idea of voter identification with photo ID. They say it puts a burden on minorities and is discriminatory. In my opinion minorities are perfectly competent to be able to secure photo ID that is free to anyone who wants it.

Mexico has not seen many problems with its card, and national identity cards have been issued for years in France, Poland, Singapore, Brazil, to prove citizenship.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-01-22/mexico-national-voter-ID-cards/52779410/1

valentine on April 3, 2014 at 1:40 PM

I don’t live in NC but, Nice to know my vote is cancelled out by 34,999 illegal votes…

No wonder the country is in such a mess. If you have to commit fraud to win then your ideas SUCK!!!!!!!! Popular VOTE means POPULAR!

There is no word to fully encapsulate the amount of hatred I feel for these *Spit* People…

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on April 3, 2014 at 1:42 PM

It always amazes me the way the left expresses outrage over the idea of voter identification with photo ID. They say it puts a burden on minorities and is discriminatory. In my opinion minorities are perfectly competent to be able to secure photo ID that is free to anyone who wants it.

Mexico has not seen many problems with its card, and national identity cards have been issued for years in France, Poland, Singapore, Brazil, to prove citizenship.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-01-22/mexico-national-voter-ID-cards/52779410/1

valentine on April 3, 2014 at 1:40 PM

Democrats know full well that they cannot win on their ideas, and they also know they cannot win honestly-run elections.

Del Dolemonte on April 3, 2014 at 1:42 PM

Democrats want “more participation, not less” — even if that increased participation results in fraud that undermines our electoral system, apparently. I wonder why?

Hey, why should the previously deceased be denied their right to vote? Surely if anyone has earned it….

There Goes the Neighborhood on April 3, 2014 at 1:43 PM

So did they check if it effected any of the election results?

albill on April 3, 2014 at 1:43 PM

My father was a staunch Republican who voted in every election. Since he died, however, he’s been voting Democrat. Go figure.

Yankee Doodle on April 3, 2014 at 1:43 PM

Nice to see no known trolls (Hi Bishop!)… but this is a potentially revolutionary move. If all the GOP run states start doing these cross checks… and finding thousands of fraudulent Dem voters–won’t that at least put pressure on the lib states to “Prove the Rethuglicans are wrong!” by doing the same thing?

Vanceone on April 3, 2014 at 1:44 PM

re:

Del, I was actually hoping for a link to the piece you posted on the WaPo 2000 article, at 1:12 PM, (rather than the ‘Bush IQ’ one you posted a few minutes later):

Remember 1960?

From the Far-Right Washington Post, November 17, 2000:

In Chicago, where Kennedy won by more than 450,000 votes, local reporters uncovered so many stories of electoral shenanigans–including voting by the dead — that the Chicago Tribune concluded that ‘the election of November 8 was characterized by such gross and palpable fraud as to justify the conclusion that [Nixon] was deprived of victory.”

I’d love to read and bookmark the full article, but a quick google got returns of that in comment sections but I didn’t see the actual article… and I try to collect various voter fraud items like that.

Rational Db8 on April 3, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Question…..

….Were the 28 states that cooperated all red states?

No snarcing, just thinking ahead.

itsspideyman on April 3, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Hey, why should the previously deceased be denied their right to vote? Surely if anyone has earned it….

There Goes the Neighborhood on April 3, 2014 at 1:43 PM

My mother voted Republican her entire life, but for ever since she passed away in 2001 she’s voted Democrat.

Rational Db8 on April 3, 2014 at 1:51 PM

I’d love to read and bookmark the full article, but a quick google got returns of that in comment sections but I didn’t see the actual article… and I try to collect various voter fraud items like that.

Rational Db8 on April 3, 2014 at 1:46 PM

I read that story in Free Republic:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/784032/posts

However, the hyperlink they provided to accompany their story has magically disappeared.

Del Dolemonte on April 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM

I don’t think the Democratic Party in general and the Left in particular fully understand how damaging voter fraud is to the country. If the integrity of the vote is completely, brazenly compromised, then what other recourse do those who oppose them have? Do they truly believe people will just quietly and submissively acquiesce to the results of an openly, obviously crooked and illegitimate election process?

Without ballots, there can only be bullets. That’s why there must be free and fair elections. Why can’t they see this?

troyriser_gopftw on April 3, 2014 at 1:57 PM

We all know that Democrats/liberals continue to vote in the after-life (multiple times at that)! They are a key Democrat constituency.

cajunpatriot on April 3, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Remember, kids: Vote early, vote often.

Infidelius
somewhere in NC

Infidelius on April 3, 2014 at 2:02 PM

I don’t think the Democrats realize how angry people are. if they don’t clean up their act and have fair elections more will be happening than losing a couple of local elections. Obvious voter fraud will awaken the sleeping giant this time.

crankyoldlady on April 3, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Well played sir… well played. I really enjoy the satire you provide around here.

nullrouted on April 3, 2014 at 1:05 PM

So you, Ditkaka, 22044, Schadenfreude and others can figure this one out but nonpartisan is real?
Talk about a disconnect.

Lanceman on April 3, 2014 at 2:10 PM

I think this just proves that the Dems can only win through fraud. Especially when you consider that Romney lost by just over 300,000 votes in so called swing states. If 1 state had 35,000 fraudulent votes, what happens multiplied over 50. It also puts into serious doubt the claims that Gore “won” in 2000.

Iblis on April 3, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Before he died eight years ago, my Grandpa always voted Republican. Now he votes Democrat.

Logic on April 3, 2014 at 2:14 PM

4.5M votes were cast in NC in the 2012 general election so this is close to 1% of the total. Could be why Demonrats don’t lose close elections!

Rightyismighty on April 3, 2014 at 2:15 PM

I don’t think the Democratic Party in general and the Left in particular fully understand how damaging voter fraud is to the country. If the integrity of the vote is completely, brazenly compromised, then what other recourse do those who oppose them have? Do they truly believe people will just quietly and submissively acquiesce to the results of an openly, obviously crooked and illegitimate election process?

Without ballots, there can only be bullets. That’s why there must be free and fair elections. Why can’t they see this?

troyriser_gopftw on April 3, 2014 at 1:57 PM

They understand it perfectly, I assure you.

And the first time anyone resists, you’ll find out why all those Federal agencies have been stockpiling ammunition since The One took power.

Their Utopias always begin with purges of the “unenlightened”. Which they dream of every night.

The progressive goal is a Perfect World. Which they define as “Nobody but us in it”.

And that’s not even including the ones who dream of mass destruction for the sheer hell of it. Who dream of killing just for the sake of killing.

Ask The One’s guru, Bill “Guilty As Sin, Free As A Bird” Ayers.

clear ether

eon

eon on April 3, 2014 at 2:17 PM

Without ballots, there can only be bullets. That’s why there must be free and fair elections. Why can’t they see this?

troyriser_gopftw on April 3, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Do you honestly think they’re trying to take our guns out of some concern for a couple of scoo’chirrun? They don’t give two shits about kids or anybody else being killed. They do know that as long as guns are prevalent, there’ll be one behind every blade of grass.

Lanceman on April 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM

We need Voter ID’s

D-fusit on April 3, 2014 at 2:32 PM

I read that story in Free Republic: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/784032/posts However, the hyperlink they provided to accompany their story has magically disappeared.

Del Dolemonte on April 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Thanks Del! That gives me another starting point anyhow.

Rational Db8 on April 3, 2014 at 2:32 PM

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