Video: Ft. Hood shooter an Iraq War vet with “mental health issues”; Update: Army says no combat duty, no PTSD diagnosis

posted at 8:01 am on April 3, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Unlike the first Fort Hood mass shooting, yesterday’s tragic incident has no apparent connection with terrorism, but instead seems to be a case of mental illness. Spec. Ivan Lopez had been under evaluation for “behavioral health and mental health issues,” perhaps related to his four-month tour of duty in Iraq three years ago:

Unfortunately, the intervention did not come in time to prevent his attack on fellow soldiers, which stopped when an MP confronted him:

An Iraq war veteran who was grappling with mental health issues opened fire at Fort Hood, Tex., in an attack that left four people dead and 16 wounded Wednesday afternoon, according to preliminary law enforcement and military reports. The gunfire sent tremors of fear across a sprawling Army post still reeling from one of the worst mass shootings in U.S. history.

Many basic details about the shooting remained unclear in the chaotic hours after the first calls for help around 4 p.m., but senior U.S. law enforcement officials said the incident did not appear to be linked to any foreign terrorist organizations. The shooter was among those who died, the officials said. …

Milley said the shooter “had behavioral health and mental health issues.” He said the soldier, who self-reported a traumatic brain injury and was taking anti-depressants, had been under examination to determine whether he had post-traumatic stress disorder. “We are digging deep into his background,” Milley said.

Milley said the soldier opened fire with a .45-caliber Smith & Wesson semiautomatic pistol that was purchased recently but was not authorized to be brought on the post. He was eventually confronted by a female military police officer. He put his hands up but then pulled out a gun from under his jacket. “She engaged,” Milley said, and then the soldier put the gun to his head and shot himself.

Why didn’t the Army identify Spec. Lopez as a threat? The Pentagon is already asking itself that question, the Washington Post reports:

It unfolded just two weeks after the Defense Department unveiled the findings of three investigations into last year’s fatal shooting at a Navy Yard building by a contractor and four years after a similarly extensive probe into a massacre at Fort Hood by an Army psychiatrist led to vows of sweeping reforms.

Although there was little information late Wednesday about the possible motives of the gunman or the circumstances that preceded the shooting, former and current service members were shocked to learn that the Army post where Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan fatally shot 13 fellow service members in Nov. 2009 had once again become the scene of carnage.

“We do not yet know how or why this tragedy occurred, but nearly five years after the Nidal Hasan shooting at Fort Hood in 2009, it is clear that we must do far more to ensure that our troops are safe when they are at home on base,” Rep. Tom Rooney (R-Fla.), a former Army lawyer who was based at Fort Hood, said in a statement. “We must thoroughly investigate what happened today, so that we can take whatever action is necessary to prevent something like this from ever occurring again.”

Four years ago, the DoD pledged to “develop a scientifically based list of behavioral indicators of potential violence,” based on what it had learned from the Nidal Hasan attack. However, as last year’s Naval Yard shooting and yesterday’s incident demonstrates, they have yet to develop a predictive model. Perhaps that’s because all three were perpetrated by very different kinds of attackers, with what seems to be different pathologies. While these predictive models may hold some value, it seems unlikely that it would achieve significant protection without becoming a kind of “pre-crime” unit, accusing people who will never act out violently at all and ruining lives in a different way.

If Lopez suffered from PTSD from his service in Iraq, though, the answer might be the fact that it took this long to identify it, let alone treat it. At least according to the Post’s report, he left Iraq in 2011, meaning that the Army had more than two years to detect and treat the issue. That might be one place to start in looking to prevent these kinds of incidents in the future, although it has to be stressed that even though they are tragic and shocking, they are also exceedingly rare — which is another reason they are difficult to prevent.

The local CBS affiliate updated viewers on the sixteen wounded in the shooting, three of whom are in critical condition:

For those who want to assist but live outside the area, a donation to the local Red Cross might be one option.

Update: The Army refutes the claim that Lopez was being treated for PTSD, or that he was a combat veteran at all. He was being evaluated for PTSD unrelated to combat, but was being treated for depression, and prescribed Ambien while the Army evaluated his claim that he suffered a traumatic brain injury while in Iraq:

But behind Lopez’s smile lay a history of depression, anxiety and other psychiatric disorders, according to Milley, and he was receiving treatment and taking antidepressants.

He had served for four months in Iraq in 2011. And while Army records don’t show him as having been wounded there, Lopez himself reported that he had suffered a traumatic brain injury, Milley said.

And he was undergoing diagnosis procedures for post-traumatic stress disorder.

“He was not diagnosed, as of today, with PTSD,” Milley said.


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…and they knew all this?

KOOLAID2 on April 3, 2014 at 8:08 AM

Has Fox News Channel established a new standard for psychopaths with a gun to aim for, preempting Bill O’Reilly for Shepard Smith?

meci on April 3, 2014 at 8:11 AM

This is what happens when old men and women in Washington, backed up by their “too scared to join the military” populace send others off to die and fight for foreign people.

MoreLiberty on April 3, 2014 at 8:12 AM

And like all tradegies

It DID NOT STOP OBAMA FROM DOING A FUND RAISER THE SAME DAY

whats some dead soldiers to da annointed ones money drive, for an election cycle.

sniffles1999 on April 3, 2014 at 8:13 AM

It took 15 minutes from the time the first shot was fired until MPs arrived. And the General gave the appearance he believed that was satisfactory.

15 minutes? On a military base? *smh*

Flora Duh on April 3, 2014 at 8:18 AM

And like all tradegies

It DID NOT STOP OBAMA FROM DOING A FUND RAISER THE SAME DAY

whats some dead soldiers to da annointed ones money drive, for an election cycle.

sniffles1999 on April 3, 2014 at 8:13 AM

Why is he still constantly fundraising? He is (supposedly) leaving office in 2017…

ConstantineXI on April 3, 2014 at 8:18 AM

How does this keep happening on MILITARY bases? Are our servicemen not armed anymore?

SAMinVA on April 3, 2014 at 8:20 AM

Well the good news for the Democrat/media complex is that a war vet was the shooter instead of a Muslim. The bad news is his name was Ivan Lopez, so they can’t blame it on a white dude.

Doughboy on April 3, 2014 at 8:21 AM

Lopez was originally from Puerto Rico, married and had a two year old daughter. Transferred to Ft. Hood from another base in Texas in February, 2014. Army says no record of Lopez being wounded during tour of service in Iraq…no Purple Heart.

workingclass artist on April 3, 2014 at 8:24 AM

Well the good news for the Democrat/media complex is that a war vet was the shooter instead of a Muslim.

Doughboy on April 3, 2014 at 8:21 AM

You’re probably right, but how do we know that crazy Ivan wasn’t a Muslim? There are white Muslums and brown Muslims.

HiJack on April 3, 2014 at 8:29 AM

and was taking anti-depressants

I wonder what anti-depressants he was on.

bitsy on April 3, 2014 at 8:31 AM

perhaps related to his four-month tour of duty in Iraq three years ago:

Something isn’t right here. A normal tour is 10-12 months for Army units deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan. Something happened somewhere with this guy that got his tour shortened to four months. Maybe it was due to his PTSD. If that is the case they really dropped the ball on treating this guy.

Johnnyreb on April 3, 2014 at 8:32 AM

It took 15 minutes from the time the first shot was fired until MPs arrived. And the General gave the appearance he believed that was satisfactory.

15 minutes? On a military base? *smh*

Flora Duh on April 3, 2014 at 8:18 AM

It’s big?

In April 2014, the website lists 45,414 assigned soldiers and 8,900 civilian employees with Fort Hood covering 214,000 acres (87,000 ha).

Today, Fort Hood has nearly 65,000 soldiers and family members and serves as a home for the following units: Headquarters III Corps; First Army Division West; the 1st Cavalry Division; 13th Sustainment Command (formerly 13th Corps Support Command); 89th Military Police Brigade; 504th Battlefield Surveillance Brigade; 21st Cavalry Brigade (Air Combat); 4th Combat Aviation Brigade; and the 31st Air Defense Artillery Brigade. Fort Hood also includes Carl R. Darnall Army Medical Center and the Medical And Dental Activities as tenant units.

Fort Hood has served as a hub for anti-war activity during both the Vietnam War (e.g. the “Fort Hood Three” incident) and the War on Terror.

From 1968-1972, the Oleo Strut was a G.I. coffeehouse located near post in Killeen, Texas.[14] The coffee house was featured in the documentary Sir! No Sir!.

In 2009, the tradition of The Oleo Strut continued when the Under the Hood Café opened. The location serves as an outreach center for antiwar activists to reach out to area soldiers, and provide them with support.

Recently several soldiers supported by Under the Hood haven taken public acts of resistance, including Amnesty International Prisoner of Conscience. – Wiki entry

workingclass artist on April 3, 2014 at 8:32 AM

I don’t recall hearing about these types of shootings on military bases during other wars/confilcts. What makes this one different? I mean, besides the fact that we have our young people giving their lives for a country where a large group of its leaders, including the commander in chief, is working toward destroying our nation.

HiJack on April 3, 2014 at 8:32 AM

Are our servicemen not armed anymore?

SAMinVA on April 3, 2014 at 8:20 AM

No, only Military Police.

Flora Duh on April 3, 2014 at 8:33 AM

How does this keep happening on MILITARY bases? Are our servicemen not armed anymore?

SAMinVA on April 3, 2014 at 8:20 AM

Nope. The only people that are armed on a typical military installation are the Military Police/Security Forces.

Been that way for a while now.

bigmacdaddy on April 3, 2014 at 8:34 AM

perhaps related to his four-month tour of duty in Iraq three years ago:

Something isn’t right here. A normal tour is 10-12 months for Army units deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan. Something happened somewhere with this guy that got his tour shortened to four months. Maybe it was due to his PTSD. If that is the case they really dropped the ball on treating this guy.

Johnnyreb on April 3, 2014 at 8:32 AM

Or he had undiagnosed mental/emotional problems before his tour…and they became obvious during his tour?

workingclass artist on April 3, 2014 at 8:34 AM

obama pauses in between fund raisers for a quick comment

then continues to go fund raise and party with 1%ers at a TEN GRAND A PLATE DINNER.

in addition LIBERAL MEDIA upset as the shooter was hispanic and not some white tea party type.

sniffles1999 on April 3, 2014 at 8:36 AM

update shooter was an hispanic democrat obama supporter

sniffles1999 on April 3, 2014 at 8:37 AM

workingclass artist on April 3, 2014 at 8:32 AM

Yes, I release it’s a huge base. But in light of what happened in 2009, I would think they would have increased the number of civilian and military police on base to hasten the response time.

Flora Duh on April 3, 2014 at 8:37 AM

update shooter was an hispanic democrat obama supporter

sniffles1999 on April 3, 2014 at 8:37 AM

Really, or did you forget the snark tag?

Flora Duh on April 3, 2014 at 8:40 AM

Yes, I release it’s a huge base. But in light of what happened in 2009, I would think they would have increased the number of civilian and military police on base to hasten the response time.

Flora Duh on April 3, 2014 at 8:37 AM

Maybe arguing about hairstyles being racist is the priority?

“WASHINGTON — Thousands of soldiers and others have signed a White House petition calling for the president to order the Army to reconsider just-released appearance and grooming regulations they contend are “racially biased” against black women.

The update to the Army regulation was published Monday , and among the rules are clarifications for Army-appropriate hairstyles. For example, the Army does not allow twists or multiple braids that are bigger than a quarter of an inch in diameter. The reg also bans dreadlocks of any style, and cornrows must be uniform and no bigger than a quarter of an inch.

Twists and dreadlocks have been prohibited since 2005, but the regulation at the time did not clearly define the specific hairstyles, Army spokesman Paul Prince said….”

http://www.usatoday.com/news/

workingclass artist on April 3, 2014 at 8:42 AM

Going to a fundraiser or being available for comments in the oval office is the biggest decision he’s made all week.
He’s doing these fundraisers and asking for help to defeat the big bad Rs, from the big money people who don’t remember who they’re dealing with, a if you like your plan, you can keep your plan period president.

Kissmygrits on April 3, 2014 at 8:42 AM

in addition LIBERAL MEDIA upset as the shooter was hispanic and not some white tea party type.

sniffles1999 on April 3, 2014 at 8:36 AM

It is a sad indication of how far we have fallen as a nation when we cannot stop to mourn the loss of 4 young people (yes, the shooter was also young at 34) and take the time to think of those who were injured but would rather celebrate the fact that the shooter was not “one of us”. That the current administration has so divided our nation is sickening.

pillepalle on April 3, 2014 at 8:45 AM

That the current administration has so divided our nation is sickening.

pillepalle on April 3, 2014 at 8:45 AM

On so many levels.

HiJack on April 3, 2014 at 8:47 AM

I wonder what anti-depressants he was on.

bitsy on April 3, 2014 at 8:31 AM

You’re right. It could be the medication. I guess we’ll never know.

Another thing they never mention. Maybe some of these people are mentally ill before they joined up. They are supposed to be able to weed these people out.

crankyoldlady on April 3, 2014 at 8:48 AM

It is a sad indication of how far we have fallen as a nation when we cannot stop to mourn the loss of 4 young people (yes, the shooter was also young at 34) and take the time to think of those who were injured but would rather celebrate the fact that the shooter was not “one of us”. That the current administration has so divided our nation is sickening.

pillepalle on April 3, 2014 at 8:45 AM

The morale of the nation and our military is lower than I’ve ever seen it in my lifetime.

workingclass artist on April 3, 2014 at 8:53 AM

One thing I rarely see in these shootings is an analysis of those close to the shooters. Out of the blue? Fine. But I’m fricking sick and tired of the political correctness that scares observers into looking the other way and into silence.

We need to get past sex, race, religion, and whatever and call spades spades. If someone seems off, immediately call it out.

BuckeyeSam on April 3, 2014 at 9:01 AM

Gun free zones were created specifically to precipitate mass shootings as a justification for gun confiscation.

If Fort Hood or any other location allowed open or concealed carry of firearms,these events would not happen.

Create a gun free zone, then sit back and wait for something bad to take place. Then demand more gun control.

esblowfeld on April 3, 2014 at 9:02 AM

It took 15 minutes from the time the first shot was fired until MPs arrived. And the General gave the appearance he believed that was satisfactory.

15 minutes? On a military base? *smh*

Flora Duh on April 3, 2014 at 8:18 AM

hood is a large base, I was an MP (not there) and response times for MP are usually worse than civ police due to command issues.
and when I was in the mp vehicles were slow as hell. we used VW vans governed to 55 mph. the movie the presidio where they use k-cars? yup thats true. we had 1 k-car and it was the fastest vehicle in the fleet, would do 90 or so.
at one point on ft sill and I think ft hood the mp used hummers, max of 70 or so with a long running start.
no idea what hey use now but the odds against a quick response time are stacked against the mp right from the start.
when I was in MP only allowed to carry 10 rounds too so another strike right from the start, no idea if that was system policy or just europe.

until the same people that can drive a tank, fire artillery (including nukes), generally able to level a town if needed can carry a damned pistol on base this will keep happening due to those response times.
a military base is the easiest place to kill a soldier.

dmacleo on April 3, 2014 at 9:04 AM

These people always go after soft targets. A military base is a soft target. At the very least there should be security in every facility.

crankyoldlady on April 3, 2014 at 9:08 AM

Glad I don’t live in Chile.

crankyoldlady on April 3, 2014 at 9:09 AM

April is the cruelest month.

And it’s not just a saying.

April is when an inordinate number of suicides happen in the northern hemisphere, and if you look at Columbine, Oklahoma City, and other mass killings you’ll see a pattern for depressives, manic-depressives.

Wander on April 3, 2014 at 9:09 AM

I live 1/2 of each year 20 minutes from Ft Hood and go there every month or so.It is huge,a city in itself and very crowded.It is 27 miles from the front gate to the back.MP’s and civilian police are all over that base.Every cop in the county raced to the base yesterday to help clear all buildings.If they had to completely check every vehicle and person coming on the base it would be the only work that would get done.Anyone can sneak a weapon in and do carnage,PTSD or not.Hasan didn’t have PTSD just hatred.He killed LTC Warman who did a deployment with my unit in 2006.There is a soldier on soldier killing nearly every month.

docflash on April 3, 2014 at 9:13 AM

“He turned his weapon, a .45 caliber Smith & Wesson semi-automatic pistol, on himself after a heroic female military police officer pulled her gun and approached him around 15 minutes after the first shots were fired, Milley said.

“‘It was clearly heroic what she did.

‘She did her job and she did exactly what we would expect from a US military police,’ he said, though didn’t identify her.

Milley confirmed the married shooter had served in Iraq for four months in 2011 and was being treated for depression and anxiety.

Lopez, who previously served in the Army National Guard in Puerto Rico, was not wounded in action while serving overseas, but self-reported a traumatic brain injury upon his return to the U.S.

‘He was not a wounded warrior,’ said Milley.
‘He was not wounded in action, to our records, no Purple Heart, not wounded in action in that regard.’

He was also in the process of being assessed for post traumatic stress disorder, though Milley insisted he had not yet been officially diagnosed.

Lopez arrived at Fort Hood in February after being transferred from another unidentified base in Texas.

Retired Army Major General James ‘Spider’ Marks expressed his surprise at the move, telling CNN that he should have stayed at the previous base for continuity of care.

Lopez had one weapon, a .45-caliber Smith and Wesson handgun, that was not registered with post authorities as required, Milley added.

‘We do not know a motive. We know he had behavioural health and mental health issues and was being treated for that,’ he said, adding that the shooter had only been at Fort Hood since February this year, when he transferred from another installation in Texas.

He was not in the process of being transitioned out of the military due to his mental health issues, Milley said…

Ivan Lopez’s wife had feared her husband was one of the victims, and broke down in tears when he was identified on the news as the shooter, a neighbor, Xanderia Morris, told the Los Angeles Times.

Two adults and three children arrived to keep Lopez’s wife company, Morris said.

Neighbors said the family – including Lopez’s a wife and their two-year-old daughter – moved in a few weeks ago, and few people seemed to know them.

‘He was always smiling whenever I’d see him,’ Morris, a cook, told the Times. ‘The wife, she was really nice too, but she didn’t speak much English.’

Lopez’s wife then left with investigators in an unmarked car…”

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2595587/BREAKING-NEWS-Active-shooter-confirmed-Ford-Hood-military-base.html#ixzz2xpRPmbHm

workingclass artist on April 3, 2014 at 9:14 AM

I’ll bet he was on psychotropic drugs. We really need to look at this problem. People who take this class of drugs seem to be involved in a lot of incidents like this one and we need to face facts.

rogaineguy on April 3, 2014 at 9:15 AM

April is the cruelest month.

And it’s not just a saying.

April is when an inordinate number of suicides happen in the northern hemisphere, and if you look at Columbine, Oklahoma City, and other mass killings you’ll see a pattern for depressives, manic-depressives.

Wander on April 3, 2014 at 9:09 AM

Yep. If memory serves, Virginia Tech happened in April as well.

Bitter Clinger on April 3, 2014 at 9:18 AM

“Officials at Fort Hood have released few details about Specialist Ivan Lopez, but here’s what we do know:

He is married, has other family members and lives in the Fort Hood area, having arrived at the post in February from another military base in Texas.

He was assigned to the 13th Sustainment Command (Expeditionary) at Fort Hood, which is a logistics and support unit.

He is a specialist, which is one of the four junior enlisted ranks in the US Army.
It is just above private first class and has an equivalent pay grade to a corporal.

Officials said he was not in the process of leaving the Army.
Lopez served for four months in Iraq in 2011. He was not wounded in action while serving overseas, but self-reported a traumatic brain injury upon his return to the U.S.

‘He was not a wounded warrior,’ said Lt. General Mark Milley, the senior officer at Fort Hood.
‘He was not wounded in action, to our records, no Purple Heart, not wounded in action in that regard.’

Lopez had several mental health issues. He was taking medication and receiving psychiatric help for depression and anxiety and was undergoing a process to determine whether he had post-traumatic stress disorder.

‘We do not know a motive,’ Milley said. ‘We do know that this soldier had behavioural health and mental health issues, and was being treated for that.’

Lopez had one weapon, a .45-caliber Smith and Wesson handgun, that was not registered with post authorities as required.

Authorities don’t yet know how much ammunition he was carrying.”

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2595587/BREAKING-NEWS-Active-shooter-confirmed-Ford-Hood-military-base.html#ixzz2xpSdInbX

workingclass artist on April 3, 2014 at 9:20 AM

Alex Jones nutters to say that this was staged in 5…4…3…2…

DethMetalCookieMonst on April 3, 2014 at 9:36 AM

It appears his 4 month tour in Iraq was as a driver of heavy miltary vehicles out of Iraq and into Kuwait. Might have just completed his tour as the task wound down.

can_con on April 3, 2014 at 9:52 AM

It took 15 minutes from the time the first shot was fired until MPs arrived. And the General gave the appearance he believed that was satisfactory.

15 minutes? On a military base? *smh*

Flora Duh on April 3, 2014 at 8:18 AM

…is he an “Obama” General?

KOOLAID2 on April 3, 2014 at 9:55 AM

For all those clamoring for a “single-payer” health-care system not unlike UK, or Canadian, “National Health Services”, DoD’s and the VA’s care for active-duty and previously-served military should give you a clue as to what you are facing.

Another Drew on April 3, 2014 at 10:41 AM

Well the good news for the Democrat/media complex is that a war vet was the shooter instead of a Muslim. The bad news is his name was Ivan Lopez, so they can’t blame it on a white dude.
Doughboy on April 3, 2014 at 8:21 AM

How much you wanna be he’ll be a “white Hispanic” by tonight’s news cycle?

Maddie on April 3, 2014 at 10:41 AM

It is still to early to tell the exact reason for the seemingly unprovoked attack but indications point more to “Virginia Tech” than to “Major Hassan”.

A few observations:1 The Army of draftees (and I was one of them)I was in had more cut-throats and disreputable people by far (the “nice guys” got out of serving by going to graduate school until they reached the magic age of 26) than today’s carefully screened Army. Yet, despite the drunken brawls, thievery and daily intimidation (many carried switch blades and sharpened beer can openers), the old draftee Army never seemed to have murderous rampages of this sort. I guess that’s up to the sociologists and psychologists to sort out.

2 As others have pointed out, why the 15 minute delay in response time when the Hassan Massacre was somethimg like 3-4 minutes? No lessons learned here from what i can see.

3 If the female MP ordered him to stop ans the guy pulled out a gun a shot himself, the second he pulled the gun, the MP wouldn’t know who it was intended for and should have shot first.

4 The Hispanic surname of the shooter signifies absolutely nothing to me but I must confess relief that, at least, CNN, MSNBC and Channels 2, 4 and 7 can’t blame a “good ol’ boy”. Maybe the shooter can be labelled a “white Hispanic” a la George Zimmerman.

5 Anybody who has ever been in the Army would know it is not practical for soldiers in garrison to go around armed all the time. The only time a rifle is loaded is on guard duty or on the rifle range. For other occasions, the rifle would be used for inspections, close order drill and parades. Even in the field (except in combat, of course) rifles are rarely loaded. Most of the time the weapons remain in the rifle racks. Better screening of nuts and fanatics and more armed guards at assembly areas would be the best prevention.

MaiDee on April 3, 2014 at 10:42 AM

This morning, the so-called “shooter” of Fort Hood fame no longer has any mental issues. They left his head along with a significant part of his brain. However, super significant issues remain loke a black cloud over Fort Hood and the over-controlling Obama administration.

1. Why are active duty United States Army soldiers prohibited from being armed on a daily basis while on a military base if they so choose?

2. Why does the Obama administration mistrust our active duty soldiers, sailors, and Marines, and prohibit them from being armed while on their bases?

3. Why is a limey SOB, namely Piers Morgan, mocking our U.S. military by just being here? Brits apparently love to see their troops slaughtered by whack-job moslems right on their streets and would never allow them to carry a weapon in public.

4. The issue should be why does the U.S. military tolerate a quasi-moslem whack-job pretending he’s the Commander-in-Chief while he consistently sells out both the U.S. Military and American citizens to his closest pals?

dockywocky on April 3, 2014 at 10:43 AM

How long was Lopez on the insomnia drug?

workingclass artist on April 3, 2014 at 11:00 AM

all i said yesterday was that i was praying for the victims of this. i purposely didn’t say anything about what the motivation of the shooter was. all of you who assumed the shooter was a muslim terrorist should be ashamed of yourselves. you get upset when the left assumes that shooters are tea partiers, but you sank down to that level!! the hypocrisy really upsets me. either jumping to conclusions is okay or it’s not. it’s not okay only when you do it. you don’t get a free pass from me just because you’re conservative.

Sachiko on April 3, 2014 at 11:02 AM

Classic

but I thought mass shootings only occurred in gun-free zones?!

nonpartisan on April 2, 2014 at 10:12 PM

Schadenfreude on April 3, 2014 at 11:10 AM

Shooter with mental problems – check
Gun-free zone except for (military) police – check
When seconds mattered police were several minutes away – check
Shooter had already ignored several laws/regulations just having a firearm at the location of shooting – check
Shooter shot self as soon as confronted by armed resistance – check

We have long known that humans are biologically programmed to recognize patterns, even where they don’t exist (basis of numerous fallacies, optical illusions, etc). That such a large number of political and social leaders are incapable of seeing a pattern in mass shootings does not bode well for this nation.

deepdiver on April 3, 2014 at 11:13 AM

Okay, I am going to be a real witch and probably regret saying this but I think the shooter saw the denial of his 100% disability claim in his near future. And sorry if this has already been said, I haven’t read the comments yet.

Cindy Munford on April 3, 2014 at 11:17 AM

Okay, I am going to be a real witch and probably regret saying this but I think the shooter saw the denial of his 100% disability claim in his near future. And sorry if this has already been said, I haven’t read the comments yet.

Cindy Munford on April 3, 2014 at 11:17 AM

It’s early…so I guess we’ll find out

The drug he was prescribed for insomnia is supposed to be used for only short periods.

workingclass artist on April 3, 2014 at 11:20 AM

workingclass artist on April 3, 2014 at 11:20 AM

I’m so cynical and it isn’t a becoming quality.

Cindy Munford on April 3, 2014 at 11:27 AM

This is what happens when old men and women in Washington, backed up by their “too scared to join the military” populace send others off to die and fight for foreign people.

MoreLiberty on April 3, 2014 at 8:12 AM

Read the article and watch the video next time genius. He wasn’t engaged in combat.

hawkdriver on April 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM

I’m not buying that this guy’s four months in Iraq had anything to do with this or that he was suffering from PTSD as a result of his Iraq service. There were very few combat casualties occurring in Iraq during 2011 and this guy was not directly involved in any combat. I think he probably had mental health issues in general.

TarheelBen on April 3, 2014 at 11:36 AM

Schadenfreude on April 3, 2014 at 11:10 AM

You know he apologized for that comment, right?

hawkdriver on April 3, 2014 at 11:36 AM

This is what happens when old men and women in Washington, backed up by their “too scared to join the military” populace send others off to die and fight for foreign people.

MoreLiberty on April 3, 2014 at 8:12 AM

Wary of your “creds” too. You are the worst commenter I know for having claimed to serve and so spring-loaded to rubbing the general publics nose in fact they didn’t deploy. So what? They’re Americans. You think every politician who needs to vote on a war resolution needs to be a combat vet? You think just because someone didn’t serve they’re not allowed to have an opinion on war?

Unreal.

hawkdriver on April 3, 2014 at 11:37 AM

As for April being a bad month both FDR and Lincoln died in office of that month. Man I detest that thing that resides in the White House and still having fund raisers. He must be going to be president for life.

garydt on April 3, 2014 at 11:45 AM

How soon before we hear Ivan Lopez is a white Hispanic?

GEAH on April 3, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Iam surprised we haven’t heard that he is a white Hispanic by now.

garydt on April 3, 2014 at 11:49 AM

This is what happens when old men and women in Washington, backed up by their “too scared to join the military” populace send others off to die and fight for foreign people.

MoreLiberty on April 3, 2014 at 8:12 AM

Wary of your “creds” too. You are the worst commenter I know for having claimed to serve and so spring-loaded to rubbing the general publics nose in fact they didn’t deploy. So what? They’re Americans. You think every politician who needs to vote on a war resolution needs to be a combat vet? You think just because someone didn’t serve they’re not allowed to have an opinion on war?

Unreal.

hawkdriver on April 3, 2014 at 11:37 AM

I know he’s not, but he sounds like a typical leftist on that one, making it sound as if we have an army of conscripts.

CurtZHP on April 3, 2014 at 11:56 AM

as we learn more about this issue

another poor sap that had mental issues that the govt response was to pickle his brain on all sorts of meds.
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and when his mother dies, and he is distraght his chain of command jerks him around

then they wonder why the dude went postal.

so the liberals will as always blame guns and conservatives

p.s. that kid that did the connectuit shooting was on a pile of meds

so was the guy who shot up the navy base
so was the guy who shot up the movie theatre
so was the jarrod guy who shot the congresswoman in arizona

see a pattern, mental person that the solution is to overmedicate.

sniffles1999 on April 3, 2014 at 1:46 PM

It’s horrible that Fort Hood has to go through this again. (And Killeen Tx, which also had the Luby’s massacre)
I have to admit I was probably hoping that it was Islamic terrorism because that would wrap it all up in a nice, easy to figure out package. It’s human nature to try to troubleshoot something like this, to affix responsibility and do something to prevent it going forward. There is probably no way you are ever going to out think a homicidal maniac though.
There are 4 Soldiers dead and 16 who are fighting for their lives to some degree which should be kept in focus as there are a lot of hurting people out there, including their families.

V7_Sport on April 3, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Test

bluefox on April 3, 2014 at 2:39 PM

Evidently the drug Amb*** isn’t going thru the filter. Ed posted it twice, so have no idea. That was one of the drugs he was taking.

bluefox on April 3, 2014 at 2:41 PM