Sarah Palin: Paul Ryan’s new budget is a joke

posted at 2:41 pm on April 2, 2014 by Allahpundit

This reminds me of yesterday’s post about taxing the childless insofar as both are fundamentally debates over what’s politically possible. Reihan Salam would rather spare everyone a tax hike and cut spending instead — but since that’s not happening anytime soon, he’s forced to choose the next most optimal alternative. That alternative is to make things easier on parents by raising taxes on people without kids. (Which, by the way, would hit liberals disproportionately hard. Presumably they’re A-OK with that given their fondness for tax hikes generally.) Same with the Palin/Ryan kerfuffle. Palin sees no reason to postpone meaningful cuts to the federal budget:

The latest Ryan (R, Wisconsin) Budget is not an April Fool’s joke. But it really IS a joke because it is STILL not seeing the problem; it STILL is not proposing reining in wasteful government overspending TODAY, instead of speculating years out that some future Congress and White House may possibly, hopefully, eh-who-knows, take responsibility for today’s budgetary selfishness and shortsightedness to do so. THIS is the definition of insanity. Do we still not understand how dangerous it is to allow government to grow unchecked as we shackle ourselves with massive debt – a good portion of which is held by foreign nations who don’t necessarily like us? If we can’t balance the budget today, what on earth makes us think it will happen at some future date? The solution is staring us in the face. We need to rein in spending today, and don’t tell me there is nothing to cut when we know every omnibus bill is loaded with pork and kickbacks.

There is, most assuredly, plenty of pork, waste, fraud, and abuse that could be trimmed today, but to make a real budget-balancing dent, we’ve got to reform entitlements. That’s where the point about political possibilities comes in. Here’s Kevin Williamson, a devout fiscal conservative, surveying the landscape and finding … virtually no appetite among voters for that:

My pessimism is rooted in my belief that there is not in reality a very large market for meaningful fiscal conservatism. People tell pollsters that they support balanced budgets and that they believe that our entitlement programs need to be reformed, and they tell them even more strongly that they oppose virtually all of the measures necessary to balance the budget or to reform entitlements…

But 2016 questions aside (and we really should put them aside for the moment), we must consider the question of how large a market there is for fiscal conservatism, and to answer that we might consider what will become of Representative Ryan’s newest budget proposal. Representative Ryan’s newest budget is very similar to his previous submissions, which laid down important fiscal markers but went nowhere politically. His budget submissions have never been perfect — nothing in real politics is perfect — and Senator Paul called Ryan’s 2012 proposal “tepid,” which exemplifies the underlying problem: Representative Ryan’s sober and compromising approach to fiscal conservatism is not aggressive enough to satisfy deficit-and-spending hawks, but it is too aggressive for the revealed preferences of the American electorate, who have provided themselves with Harry Reid and Barack Obama to act as prophylactics against fiscal reform.

Critics on the right will say that this new budget is not the best we can do, and they are correct: It is by all appearance far beyond the best we can do at the moment. The American public would be lucky to see the enactment of this budget, which would reduce the deficit down to digestible levels quite quickly. But they have no apparent appetite for it. Representative Ryan performs his thankless task admirably, but he is peddling broccoli outside of Baskin-Robbins.

Williamson wrote another piece along these lines recently, specifically regarding Rand Paul’s nascent presidential candidacy, and concluded that Paul’s a dead man walking because Americans really don’t oppose big government. They say they do, agreeing broadly when asked whether the federal leviathan’s too big and spends too much. But when you get into specifics about the programs that are driving the looming debt crisis — Social Security and Medicare — you find large majorities are reliably opposed. I’ve flagged polls before in which people are asked which parts of government, among 20 or listed, they’d like to see the feds spend less on. Reliably, the only item that draws majority support is foreign aid. How do you balance the budget soon in a political climate like that? Why would Ryan or the House GOP even propose doing so seven months out from a midterm election, given that Democrats will turn it into a Mediscare jamboree? The reason Ryan’s budget delays deep cuts is, I thought, because he understands that those cuts are impossible anyway until Republicans control government again. Nothing’s happening until 2017 at the very earliest. In which case, why destroy him for not envisioning action now?

One other thing I don’t understand: As Williamson notes, Ryan’s new budget isn’t much different from his last three budgets, which collectively made him a rock star in the GOP and landed him on the presidential ticket in 2012. Ryan himself notes the similarity in responding to Palin in the clip below (at 2:45). If delaying a balanced budget and phasing in Medicare reforms very gradually is RINO squishery, why were there so many people cheering this guy on for three years?



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If delaying a balanced budget and phasing in Medicare reforms very gradually is RINO squishery, why were there so many people cheering this guy on for three years?

Because some people get paid to run their mouth, and some people get paid to actually stay in the arena and help their country.

cimbri on April 2, 2014 at 7:36 PM

The only people “cheering him on for the past three years” were the RINO squishes who thought they could pull a fast one on conservatives by touting Ryan as some kind of fiscal hawk.How easy it is to do nothing now and say you hope you can do something ten years from now.

redware on April 2, 2014 at 7:39 PM

She also did not cut spending. Spending went up every single year that she was governor. When she left office Alaska was facing huge budget deficits. Did she seriously cut spending then? I don’t mean “approved a smaller increase than normal” but actually reduced spending? No. Instead, she had the state withdraw billions of dollars from the state’s “rainy day” fund that previous governors had built up.

AngusMc on April 2, 2014 at 5:10 PM

You do not read very well do you? There were no deficits on her watch, and none for the following two or three years.

astonerii on April 2, 2014 at 7:54 PM

All of you that wonder where Palin’s budget is should be aware by now why republicans and dems fear her. She took on the GOP in Alaska and defeated them before beating the dem challenger and making significant improvements for her state as she promised to do. She governs with a servants heart. She serves the people that elect her. That is why the state controlled press had to destroy her and that is why the GOP sat back and allowed it to happen. It is really too bad for America. Palin’s budget would look something like this

Dept of Energy – ineffective and GONE.
Dept of Education – ineffective and GONE.
Dept of Homeland Security – redundant and GONE.

The budgets for all the remaining departments to be reviewed and drastically reduced except for defense. This is what Palin would do and this is why the DC elites cannot allow.

NO ONE must every acknowledge the 800 pound gorilla in the room.

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DeweyWins on April 2, 2014 at 8:09 PM

Without hearing anything from Palin, I knew this was a joke – BECAUSE PAUL RYAN IS A JOKE. He Rubio’d himself a long time ago.

Nat George on April 2, 2014 at 8:12 PM

People tell pollsters

There’s our problem.

MT on April 2, 2014 at 8:24 PM

It would be a good day in America if this were the national debate. I give credit to both of them. Keep it civil, though.

Saltysam on April 2, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Because some people get paid to run their mouth, and some people get paid to actually stay in the arena and help their country.

cimbri on April 2, 2014 at 7:36 PM

Some people help their country more by “running their mouths” than they do by getting paid — and paid well — following their squishy paths in the House or Senate. It’s not one or the other. Of course, there are anal-retentive pseudo-conservatives kin the GOP who would condemn Palin no matter what she does or has done: quitting, running for and holding some other office, or being a commentator. Heck, GOPers like many on this board have more venom for her than the progs who have the guts, self-awareness and honesty to label themselves as such.

ddrintn on April 2, 2014 at 9:14 PM

Because some people get paid to run their mouth, and some people get paid to actually stay in the arena and help their country.

cimbri on April 2, 2014 at 7:36 PM

Why are you just running your mouth on the sidelines patriot?

Murphy9 on April 2, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Palin reminds me of those over eager and annoying fans at games who claims to have all the answers on how to win a game despite never playing the sport. She can’t just screech from the sidelines.

Xanatos90 on April 2, 2014 at 3:07 PM

Except, obviously, she did play the sport in question; skillfully. Trouble yourself to read comments made by past debate opponents, and by the opposition party in Alaska. If your complaint is that she didn’t attach herself to a gerrymandered sinecure for life, or serve in the Senate until she needed a med team and a respirator to cast votes, then yes, her career in electoral politics was short.

massrighty on April 2, 2014 at 9:30 PM

“No way will the budget be balanced in one year. Ryans 10-20 year gradual balancing is probably the most realistic-if you could get the government to stick to it after passed.”

Rino alert. Straw man attack!

ncjetsfan on April 2, 2014 at 7:10 PM

LOL. A 10-20 year plan is just an illusion of doing something without actually having to do anything. There would be a lot of fanfare about the brilliance of this 10-20 year plan, and then after the first couple of years it’d be defunct. Sorry, but too many people can see through such shams.

There is, most assuredly, plenty of pork, waste, fraud, and abuse that could be trimmed today, but to make a real budget-balancing dent, we’ve got to reform entitlements. That’s where the point about political possibilities comes in. Here’s Kevin Williamson, a devout fiscal conservative, surveying the landscape and finding … virtually no appetite among voters for that:

Well, you have to have a salesman. No politician holding office is really framing the whole disastrous problem in a meaningful way, other than Ryan’s kick-it-down-the-road-and-it-will-be-OK approach.

ddrintn on April 2, 2014 at 9:35 PM

If we can’t balance the budget today, what on earth makes us think it will happen at some future date?

She nails it in that one sentence.

ddrintn on April 2, 2014 at 9:41 PM

She is so right. I have NO idea who this man is anymore!
I WOULD NOT vote for him, I would stay home.

mmcnamer1 on April 2, 2014 at 9:49 PM

It is by all appearance far beyond the best we can do at the moment.

And that’s the money quote right there.

We need to start somewhere and it order to be successful over the long run the wisdom needs to be demonstrated.

I am growing a bit tired of people who anoint themselves keeper of the conservative flame, while shouting abstract principles and unrealistic approaches.

It tool us a long time and very deliberate measures to arrive at this mess. It will take equal, if not more time to unwind this disaster.

I am not Paul Ryan’s biggest fan. But with each passing day I am starting to move further away from the ruminations of people like Ms. Palin. It is about time we got a foothold instead of standing around waiting for the perfect moment. A moment that will never come.

Ms. Palin please pick up the red courtesy phone. It’s reality calling.

Marcus Traianus on April 2, 2014 at 9:53 PM

“No way will the budget be balanced in one year. Ryans 10-20 year gradual balancing is probably the most realistic-if you could get the government to stick to it after passed.”

Rino alert. Straw man attack!

ncjetsfan on April 2, 2014 at 7:10 PM

Kind of like all the enforcement procedures that were put in place after the Amnesty of 1986 to ensure it would be the last amnesty ever?

bw222 on April 2, 2014 at 10:11 PM

Ms. Palin please pick up the red courtesy phone. It’s reality calling.

Marcus Traianus on April 2, 2014 at 9:53 PM

All Ryan’s plan does is kick the can down the road. Future congresses will not be bound by it and will most likely ignore it. Might I be so bold as to suggest you are the one not living in the real world?

bw222 on April 2, 2014 at 10:14 PM

Let’s just face facts. We will collapse at some point. Just do your best to prepare. $17+ trillion in debt and rising, and there is no political appetite to cut into the budget? The country is screwed.

JAGonzo on April 2, 2014 at 10:40 PM

Ok, seriously – there are way too many “from the sidelines” comments from too many different people for this to be a coincidence.

Midas on April 2, 2014 at 10:52 PM

They’re both politicians. They’re both professional liars.

Galtian on April 2, 2014 at 11:03 PM

All Ryan’s plan does is kick the can down the road. Future congresses will not be bound by it and will most likely ignore it. Might I be so bold as to suggest you are the one not living in the real world?

bw222 on April 2, 2014 at 10:14 PM

…that can has been kicked down the road since 2006!…and Ryan has been part of it!

KOOLAID2 on April 2, 2014 at 11:15 PM

Ryan has a good plan that will not be as “painful” as a slash the budget plan..Williamson is right about Ryan’s budget..In today’s political climate it is about as good as you can do..:)

Dire Straits on April 3, 2014 at 12:04 AM

If delaying a balanced budget and phasing in Medicare reforms very gradually is RINO squishery, why were there so many people cheering this guy on for three years?

Allahpundit … because that was three years ago. Last December Congress and the President blew up the sequester. Over the last three years we have added another 3 trillion dollars to the national debt and the promises of spending cuts are of the never happen kind, just like everything else in Washington, D.C.

The national debt now stands at over 17.5 trillion dollars and the unfunded liabilities are now in excess of 90 trillion dollars.

Our refusal to get our fiscal house in order has taken us to the brink of disaster; and the rest of the world has already started running for the lifeboats, as the BRIC nations move to ditch the US dollar.

john.frank on April 3, 2014 at 12:04 AM

They’re both politicians. They’re both professionalliars.

Galtian on April 2, 2014

Huh. So what has Palin lied about?

ddrintn on April 3, 2014 at 12:05 AM

Ryan has a good plan that will not be as “painful” as a slash the budget pl Ryan’s budget..In today’s political climate it is about as good as you can d

Dire Straits on April 3, 2014

So what about tomorrow’s political climate is going to be any better? Ryan’s “plan” would be dead in 2 years.

ddrintn on April 3, 2014 at 12:10 AM

In other news:

Putin & Sarah Palin Phone Call on “Tonight Show”
http://youtu.be/vwBZObfp24c

Vladimir Putin calls Sarah Palin to chat about her prediction that he’d invade Ukraine. Sarah Palin’s new show “Amazing America” premieres April 3 at 8pm on The Sportsman Channel.

john.frank on April 3, 2014 at 12:24 AM

ddrintn on April 3, 2014 at 12:10 AM

Unless the GOP wins the Senate this year it will never get off the ground..While it does take too long..Politically it a good start..:)

Dire Straits on April 3, 2014 at 12:37 AM

n other news:

Putin & Sarah Palin Phone Call on “Tonight Show”
http://youtu.be/vwBZObfp24c

Vladimir Putin calls Sarah Palin to chat about her prediction that he’d invade Ukraine. Sarah Palin’s new show “Amazing America” premieres April 3 at 8pm on The Sportsman Channel.

john.frank on April 3, 2014 at 12:24 AM

Ho-lee guacamole, that was the real deal!!!

“You don’t wanna mess with a Mama Grizzly.”

(whew)

theotherone on April 3, 2014 at 2:34 AM

It is by all appearance far beyond the best we can do at the moment.

So the best we can do is the same thing we’ve been doing that got us in this mess? Current spending increases with promises of cuts sometime in the future?

tommyboy on April 3, 2014 at 6:37 AM

All Ryan’s plan does is kick the can down the road. Future congresses will not be bound by it and will most likely ignore it. Might I be so bold as to suggest you are the one not living in the real world?

bw222 on April 2, 2014 at 10:14 PM

What Ryan’s plan does is actually propose a…plan.

As opposed to some cute quotes and bomb throwing.

If Palin, or anyone else for that matter, has a plan as detailed as Ryan’s, one that can actually pass and start moving us in the right direction, let’s see it. Let’s have that debate- I am all for that.

But if people want to sit on the sidelines, cloak themselves in the increasingly ethereal “conservative” wrapper, allegedly armed with “principles” and unrealistically stoking the passions of citizens with lofty, unachievable ideas, without any tangible, substantive plan- they need to sit down and let other people lead.

We certainly need to clean house in Washington and change the culture. That will need to be done incrementally and some folks need to get over that. Because I am a bit tired of sitting here watching my freedom slip away from the outside while the bloviaters fight the establishment clowns and we become a casualty of their combined abject stupidity.

Marcus Traianus on April 3, 2014 at 8:25 AM

Sarah, it’s an election year, it is time for you to come on board and support your fellow republicans, after all, we supported you when you ran with the creepy John McCain, with the creepy Megan daughter, and we supported You with your teen pregnancy daughter, even though we thought it was ridiculous. The budget can’t go anywhere, it doesn’t matter what he puts in it. All we need to see is that the Senate is not writing a budget, again. All we need to hear is that the Ryan budget cuts and balances in the future, and gets rid of Obamacare.

Fleuries on April 3, 2014 at 9:14 AM

What Ryan’s plan does is actually propose a…plan.

As opposed to some cute quotes and bomb throwing.

A “plan” which iks nothing more than cute ideas and nothingness and I suspect Ryan knows it.

If Palin, or anyone else for that matter, has a plan as detailed as Ryan’s, one that can actually pass and start moving us in the right direction, let’s see it. Let’s have that debate- I am all for that.

Oh, you have to have your own plan before you hjave a right to say anything against Ryan’s plan? That’s like saying “you can’t make fun of Plan 9 from Outer Space until you’ve made your own movie.”

But if people want to sit on the sidelines

Marcus Traianus on April 3, 2014 at 8:25 AM

And there it is again. Midas must be onto something. Well, at least “sitting on the sidelines” isn’t driving the whole thing into over the cliff.

ddrintn on April 3, 2014 at 9:59 AM

Sarah, it’s an election year, it is time for you to come on board and support your fellow republicans…
Fleuries on April 3, 2014 at 9:14 AM

Um…

http://www.google.com/search?q=sarah+palin+endorsements+2014&hl=en&gbv=2&prmd=ivns&source=univ&tbm=nws&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=N2k9U8-sL8e02wXK8IDAAQ&ved=0CBsQqAI

:)

cs89 on April 3, 2014 at 10:01 AM

Paul Ryan, the boy wonder who donned his tights and cape to be Romney’s Robin in 2012, continues to pitch these wonkish ten year plans with the so called savings in the out years during someone else’s administration; the guy is a joke.

Tripwhipper on April 3, 2014 at 10:31 AM

Paul Ryan, the boy wonder who donned his tights and cape to be Romney’s Robin in 2012, continues to pitch these wonkish ten year plans with the so called savings in the out years during someone else’s administration; the guy is a joke.

Tripwhipper on April 3, 2014 at 10:31 AM

…knowing how Congress works…that is why I don’t waste my time even listening anymore.

KOOLAID2 on April 3, 2014 at 10:44 AM

Oh look, President Facebook is lording over her pretend kingdom again.

At least Ryan can actually do something. Facebook posts do nothing but make silly little kid fans happy.

Moesart on April 3, 2014 at 12:58 PM

People tell pollsters that they support balanced budgets and that they believe that our entitlement programs need to be reformed, and they tell them even more strongly that they oppose virtually all of the measures necessary to balance the budget or to reform entitlements…

Nothing more needs to be said than that, really. Problem is the American electorate much more so than it is RINOs.

MarkNY on April 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM

Let’s just face facts. We will collapse at some point. Just do your best to prepare. $17+ trillion in debt and rising, and there is no political appetite to cut into the budget? The country is screwed.

JAGonzo on April 2, 2014 at 10:40 PM

Spot on.

Deckard BR on April 3, 2014 at 2:43 PM

At least Ryan can actually do something. Facebook posts do nothing but make silly little kid fans happy.

Moesart on April 3, 2014 at 12:58 PM

I have no problem with Ryan in his current role, and think it’s good we have him on the GOP team. However, the above statement that he can “actually do something” should be looked at a little closer. He has presented multiple budgets, etc., but what has he actually passed?

After a year and a half on the job, Ryan reached a milestone: He passed his first bill. It renamed a post office.

Four years later, Ryan got another bill passed. It lowered the excise tax on the parts used to make arrows.

This is the sum total of Paul Ryan’s changes to U.S. code. After 2006, Ryan’s focus was on a committee — the Budget Committee — whose main job is to produce theoretical statements of policy, not actual law. He has not passed a law since.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/paul-ryan-republican-vice-presidential-candidate-has-a-complicated-record-with-little-compromise/2012/08/13/eb6f7378-e57c-11e1-8741-940e3f6dbf48_story.html

cs89 on April 3, 2014 at 4:52 PM

cs89 on April 3, 2014 at 4:52 PM

The Democrats control the Senate..:)

Dire Straits on April 3, 2014 at 5:21 PM

Nothing more needs to be said than that, really. Problem is the American electorate much more so than it is RINOs.

MarkNY on April 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM

Very good point..:)

Dire Straits on April 3, 2014 at 5:22 PM

Paul Ryan was just on Hannity’s radio show..Made very good points and was honest about his budget..:)

Dire Straits on April 3, 2014 at 5:25 PM

Dire Straits on April 3, 2014 at 5:21 PM

I’m not knocking Ryan. And, I’m aware that Dems will block much GOP legislation.

However, he’s been in the House since 1999. Frist was Senate Majority Leader for four years as well…

My only point is if someone’s trying to say “well, Ryan can DO something” maybe we should ask- what has he done?

cs89 on April 3, 2014 at 6:18 PM

cs89 on April 3, 2014 at 6:18 PM

I get that you weren’t knocking Ryan..Ryan is now a chairman of his committee..So he is in a better position to affect change..:)

Dire Straits on April 3, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Ap you are right and wrong..you have to change the game.

It is true that Social Security and Medicare are the hardest to deal with so you will have to take things slow on those, however, that does not mean you can’t start cutting lots of other stuff in the federal government in the name of fiscal sanity.

The problem is most Americans (mostly older Americans) are desperate to keep Social Security and Medicare. They would be willing RIGHT NOW to sacrifice almost every other government program in order to save those. If the GOP got up and said, “We have to start to cut government to save Social Security and Medicare,” I think it would be an effective message.

Do massive cuts of the EPA, IRS, Education Dept., Foreign Aid to crappy countries who are not our allies, and other programs. Get Welfare, Food Stamps, Unemployment under control and limit them. Do moderate cuts to the Army (but use 50% of those cuts to increase spending to the Navy, Air Force and Marines). You have to learn from Dems on this…to play the money game.

Scrap Obama Care and replace it with a small program to help those who can’t get insurance do to preexisting conditions, open healthcare insurance up nationally, allow Americans to go outside the country to get drugs and medical treatment.

Scrap the ATF and DEA by giving those law enforcement duties to the FBI. That should save some money as well. Ditch Homeland Security, and merge the NSA with CIA, and weaken their powers and funding for certain domestic activities.

There are many others I am sure people can add. The point is Americans would rather try to save their beloved two programs at the expense of other government programs, so why not use that in the mean time to our advantage? This will free up business by cutting the government agencies most responsible for regulations thus allowing our economy to grow again. It will also return freedom to America again by getting agencies like the ATF and EPA off our backs.

An analogy: In WWII we knew that Japan and Germany were the prime enemies, yet we started the war by invading North Africa, some small Pacific Islands, and later Italy. We did not just drop or land troops into Berlin and Tokyo. My problem with the people who say, “we can’t cut anything because the American people won’t let us cut Medicare and Social Security so it don’t matter…we are dooooomed”, is they don’t understand that this is a process, plus it seems to be an excuses to do nothing that way representatives and senators can continue to load up on pork for the local district or state.

Let’s see if we can crush the IRS, EPA, and Foreign Aid (maybe ditch the UN while we are at it). You say that is impossible? Oh…it is very possible once the American people find out that it might save their precious Social Security and Medicare. Make it a contest of what do you like more: The EPA or Social Security. Will it save America just to cut the EPA? Of course not, but this politics. Take it one step at a time. Then after you do that you get up and say: “What do you want more, ObamaCare or Social Security?”…and so on…

At some point in this process we will be able to cut those two programs, but we need to train the American people to see that they really don’t need that much government in their lives. That will take some time, but we have to start somewhere and begin the counter attack.

William Eaton on April 2, 2014 at 5:07 PM

While all of you bark back and forth about Palin, a brilliant comment was posted and thus ignored by your wasted attempts to argue something that has been hashed and rehashed a thousand times.

rmel80 on April 4, 2014 at 1:46 PM

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