AP sources: ObamaCare “on track” to hit seven million sign-ups before deadline

posted at 11:21 am on April 1, 2014 by Allahpundit

I’m not sure what “on track” means given that the deadline’s now come and gone. Presumably it’s a reference to last week’s extension for people who are “in line”: All you need to do is swear that you tried to sign up before March 31st but ran into technical problems and you get extra time to complete the process. That extension was, transparently, all about giving the White House a better chance to reach seven million sign-ups — their original projection for enrollment this year — so that they can now declare “mission accomplished.” It was, like so many of O-Care’s exemptions and shifting deadlines, all about politics. Even though anyone who’s following this issue knows that a good million or more of these sign-ups are or soon will be invalid due to nonpayment of premiums or the simple fact that “sign-ups” includes some people who selected a plan on Healthcare.gov even though they didn’t actually complete the purchase.

Obama’s going to take a victory lap at 4:15 p.m. today. If he’s excited about this number, imagine how excited he’ll be when he finds out how many sign-ups are valid.

Beating expectations, President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul was on track to sign up more than 7 million Americans for health insurance on deadline day Monday, government officials told The Associated Press.

The 7 million target, thought to be out of reach by most experts, was in sight on a day that saw surging consumer interest as well as vexing computer glitches that slowed sign-ups on the HealthCare.gov website…

Seven million was the original target set by the Congressional Budget Office for enrollment in taxpayer-subsidized private health insurance through new online markets created under Obama’s signature legislation.

Not only are “sources” whispering to the media about up-to-the-minute sign-up data, an HHS spokesman reported last night that the website had received nearly five million visits on Monday alone. Which led Byron York to marvel:

We still don’t have data about how many of the seven million were previously uninsured (CBO projected as recently as February that 13 million people formerly without insurance would gain it under O-Care, including the Medicaid expansion) or what the age mix of the various new state risk pools is. Logically, you would think the late enrollment surge would consist mainly of “young knuckleheads” who held off on signing up until the last minute because they don’t desperately need coverage. That’s good news for insurers and for fans of the law, of course, since more young adults in the pool means more healthy people being gouged to subsidize those with preexisting conditions, which in turn means premiums will rise less steeply next year. The bad news for insurers is that, per some recent estimates, young adults comprised just 25-27 percent of the overall risk pool headed into the final month of enrollment. There’d have to be a lot of twentysomethings diving in over the past four weeks to get the administration close to its target of 40 percent or so overall.

In case you missed it yesterday, by one estimate, three-quarters of new ObamaCare enrollees are paying higher premiums now than they used to — which, of course, is very much by design, no matter what The One might tell you. If you’re going to have guaranteed issue and community rating for the sick, the extra revenue to pay for their treatment has to come from somewhere. Exit question: What happens next year when roughly half of new enrollees with subsidized coverage lose their subsidies, bumping them down to Medicaid coverage or no coverage at all?


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Take this reality very seriously, weasels of the world.

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Why the hell is the word Vi agra banned?

Lanceman on April 1, 2014 at 12:11 PM

That and other brand names (like Pro zac) seem to be banned — I think Ed once explained it had something to do with trackback links to spam websites …

ShainS on April 1, 2014 at 12:25 PM

I see you guys are working overtime to “unskew” reality again. Good luck with that. Hope it goes better for you than it did last time.

everdiso on April 1, 2014 at 12:14 PM

Let’s make it even easier. How many of the non medicare/medicaid policies have been paid for?

Also, I’m curious about the White House figure of 7 million. You have said repeatedly that there are more. Is your figure the right one or is 7 million. And then there is the LA Times figure. Howz come there are different figures floating around?

oldroy on April 1, 2014 at 12:25 PM

You’re skeered to spell out Viagra???

Lanceman on April 1, 2014 at 12:10 PM

No, but it’s among the forbidden HA terms. I guess to keep spamming away…or who knows?

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2014 at 12:28 PM

Who knew free weed was envoled?

Bmore on April 1, 2014 at 12:19 PM

You sure are on it…it’s involved, dude :)

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2014 at 12:30 PM

For everdilligent

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2014 at 12:31 PM

You know, the weirdest part might be the realization that those “Question Authority” bumper stickers were created by an (R).

rogerb on April 1, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Why do liberals keep trying to skew the awful re-distributive reality of Obamacare?

Time to redouble on the unskewing, for the sake of the country.

otlset on April 1, 2014 at 12:38 PM

“If you like your doctor, ins. plan and hospital you can keep them” — The Man who Never Lies

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2014 at 12:39 PM

wow

love2rumba on April 1, 2014 at 12:40 PM

The dems f’d up. They were desperate so I can see why they went overboard on the numbers. These ginned up #s are going to fall apart in a few months – there is no way they aren’t counting dupes,nonpays , folding in children (<26) or just making sht up. The reality of the crappy new system and the flimsy #s and projections will hit the dems hard and it will be too late for them to re-cook the books.

BoxHead1 on April 1, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Disco taking a page out of verbasloopy’s book?

oldroy on April 1, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Making it up as they go….pure propaganda.

Mollymaloo on April 1, 2014 at 12:44 PM

The dems f’d messed up. I don’t curse in real life so I’m not sure why I do on the internet(???).

BoxHead1 on April 1, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Why do liberals keep trying to skew the awful re-distributive reality of Obamacare?

otlset on April 1, 2014 at 12:38 PM

For the Left, the ends always justify the means.

And, you know what their ends are, right (hint: they are a cult of self-hating death-worshippers)?

ShainS on April 1, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Disco? How come you say $13.5 million as a result of Obamacare, and the White House says 7 million? Which is it? And since you have the numbers, maybe you could break a few of these things down by state?

oldroy on April 1, 2014 at 12:44 PM

For everdilligent, on reality. It’s wrong to allow suckers to keep their dough.

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2014 at 12:45 PM

One more on reality. Buy the stuff, morons.

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Given the scatter shot accuracy of anything put out by the Admin, I’d take the 7 million “on track” to mean they’ve had 7 million hits from unique IP origins that were able to get beyond the ‘Out of Service’ message. Those can be sorted to ‘gave up’, ‘no coverage’, ‘drop to medicare’, ‘quit’, ‘costs to much’, ‘can’t keep your doctor’, ‘can’t keep your… [your option here]‘, ‘may have completed’, ‘doesn’t plan to pay’… you might get the idea.

None of that indicates a paying customer so best I can guestimate…

ObamaCare = 0 covered

Willys on April 1, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Disco? How come you say $13.5 million as a result of Obamacare, and the White House says 7 million? Which is it? And since you have the numbers, maybe you could break a few of these things down by state?

oldroy on April 1, 2014 at 12:44 PM

The seven million appears to have come from sources in the White House ‘on background’ which means they are not to be quoted. Nothing like taking responsibility for data!

Ditso doesn’t know the difference between numbers of people and money so he’s an idiot.

slickwillie2001 on April 1, 2014 at 12:52 PM

An anonymous administration person leaked the 7 million number to reporters. No accountability. What a surprise!

fight like a girl on April 1, 2014 at 12:54 PM

I mean you guys aren’t really deluding yourselves that these numbers won’t be backed up by the insurance companies in a month or two when the final numbers are tabulated? And by the polling on the uninsured rate?

When has this Data Denial ever worked out for you ever before? Why do you think it will start working now?

And what will your excuses be when the premiums for the next signup period turn out not to be significantly higher than they were this time?

You keep doing this same song and dance routine every time the numbers don’t agree with you, and it hasn’t yet worked out for you guys even once.

everdiso on April 1, 2014 at 12:58 PM

They should be required to subtract the number of people who lost their insurance due to Obamacare from those numbers. Also, subtract the people who haven’t paid.

mattmillburn on April 1, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Sure, the numbers are all bogus real.

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Nate Silver is a liar. Harry Reid said so.

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2014 at 1:03 PM

This was as predictable as the unemployment rate magically dropping below 8% before 2012 election day!

When the answer doesn’t support the narrative; change the equation until it gives results that does!

Or just flat out lie. The Ministry of Propaganda will carry the water, no questions asked!

r27cj on April 1, 2014 at 1:03 PM

One number is real – the number of moochers/looters/harlots on the taxpayers’ dole.

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2014 at 1:04 PM

I mean you guys aren’t really deluding yourselves that these numbers won’t be backed up by the insurance companies in a month or two when the final numbers are tabulated? And by the polling on the uninsured rate?

Let’s start here narutoboy.

Insurance companies have already stated that 20% that have signed up previously haven’t paid for their plans.

And according to polling the uninsured rate has already gone up.

And what will your excuses be when the premiums for the next signup period turn out not to be significantly higher than they were this time?

Insurance companies are already announcing sharp increases in premiums for 2015. My company is projecting an increase of 20% or more.

Your plantation masters can’t (or most likely, won’t)even tell us how many “newly” insured were uninsured before. They are pulling numbers out of their azz. They could have analyze and tabulated the sign up numbers all the way thru the end of February.

HumpBot Salvation on April 1, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Amazing how for months they had “no official numbers.” Now all of a sudden..boom- 7 million. Interesting how that happens.

vcferlita on April 1, 2014 at 1:07 PM

They should be required to subtract the number of people who lost their insurance due to Obamacare from those numbers. Also, subtract the people who haven’t paid.

mattmillburn on April 1, 2014 at 12:59 PM

The number would be less than 2 million. They can’t announce that.

HumpBot Salvation on April 1, 2014 at 1:07 PM

You keep doing this same song and dance routine every time the numbers don’t agree with you, and it hasn’t yet worked out for you guys even once.

everdiso on April 1, 2014 at 12:58 PM

Doesn’t get much richer than this. Song and dance? You mean like Obama lying to everyone about keeping your plan, or Sebellius repeatedly saying she doesn’t have numbers, and it won’t be extended but now it will. Or how about the way it was passed in the first place? Your guys have zero credibility on any of this regardless of what they throw out there.

Erich66 on April 1, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Hey everdiso, this is the sort of thing people mean when they keep using the word “data”:
  http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/b12atxiztekoguarvptywa.png
 
So now let’s do some math. Which of these numbers is larger?
 
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rogerb on April 1, 2014 at 1:11 PM

It’s clear the troll has nothing. The troll’s second post is just a repeat of the original post. No links, no proof, no coherent argument.

Tokyo Rose called. She said we need better trolls.

CurtZHP on April 1, 2014 at 1:13 PM

OT

Hillary suffers another stroke. Looks like her presidential aspirations are done.

http://tinyurl.com/www-abcnews-com

HumpBot Salvation on April 1, 2014 at 11:29 AM

..what’s the dealio, Humper? Your URL is a Rick Astely You Tube vid. You slagging us or did you get stiffed yourself? I mean, if Cankles is going to vapor lock, I want a ringside seat.

The War Planner on April 1, 2014 at 1:14 PM

Speaking of singing and dancing, this is the funniest routine I’ve seen in a while. Ladies and gentlement, our own singing and dancing completely dumbfounded Ms. Sebelius:
 
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/tv-reporter-tells-sebelius-obamacare-is-unpopular-awkwardness-ensues/
 
Watch the video.

rogerb on April 1, 2014 at 1:17 PM

Data deniers?

Interesting how this Administration spends months saying they don’t know…

…how many have paid their initial premiums despite CMS requiring monthly reports on this from the exchange partner insurance carriers?

…how many just put their policy choices in the ‘shopping cart’ and never took the transaction to the next stage?

…the demographic breakdown of all exchange (state and federal) enrollees even though all of the enrollment requirements include collecting the prospective policy holder’s demographic information?

…how many previously had insurance that was cancelled as ‘substandard’?

…how many didn’t have any health insurance?

…how many that didn’t have any health insurance are young and healthy whom are critical for the economic viability of the exchanges?

…how many required subsidies and how much in subsidies were paid?

…how many were new Medicaid enrollees who qualified under the expanded Medicaid qualifications?

Until these questions are answered – we don’t have the data. Oh, and all of this data needs to be made public and be independently audited / verifiable. After all, this is the most open and transparent Administration ever.

Athos on April 1, 2014 at 12:03 PM

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2014 at 1:17 PM

Rogerb’s video

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2014 at 1:18 PM

I really really doubt these numbers they seem to say whatever sounds good. 4 mil,5 mil,6 mil,7 mil it’s clear they have no idea what the numbers are and if they do they are bad.

sorrowen on April 1, 2014 at 1:19 PM

Everdscoo,,,,,,,,,,,Why would anyone or myself believe in the numbers that Obama puts out???? Personally I am paying 6 times the premium and the deductible went from 100 dollars to 600 dollars. Right now my enrollment is not complete because the website is frozen and unable to complete. There have been several glitches here that I have not seen on any other website. Only this blasted one. The other reason the numbers are high is because everyone is FORCED to take this plan. Its no joy to have such high deductibles with little service. To tell you the truth its worthless to me with those kind of negatives.

garydt on April 1, 2014 at 1:19 PM

The obama’care’ numbers are April Fools’ stats.

This is real – Drudge:

Chevy Cobalts Were Seen as Lemons From Start, Data Shows…
FLASHBACK: Obama Touted as Success Story…
Michael Moore: GM ‘criminals’ deserve death…
Families put human face on massive recall…

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2014 at 1:20 PM

Idiot. Why didn’t he just say 7 BILLION?

At this point, what difference does it make?

faraway on April 1, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Just think, that’s seven million dweebs who have now given their personal information to a government agency that cannot guarantee that it’s secure. Great.

HiJack on April 1, 2014 at 1:24 PM

everdiso on April 1, 2014 at 12:58 PM

Okay everdiso. I have gone out of my way to be decent to you. I have treated you more than fairly. I have been honest with you. Why the no reply to my simple question?

Bmore on April 1, 2014 at 1:25 PM

They have no clue what the numbers are but I will be it’s not even 1% of the unissued. 6 mil is still a failure out of 30-40 million uninsured….

sorrowen on April 1, 2014 at 1:27 PM

If it was all going swimmingly, there would be no reason to change or delay the “law of the land”. And yet, 28 times…

monalisa on April 1, 2014 at 1:27 PM

what’s the dealio, Humper? Your URL is a Rick Astely You Tube vid. You slagging us or did you get stiffed yourself? I mean, if Cankles is going to vapor lock, I want a ringside seat.

The War Planner on April 1, 2014 at 1:14 PM

Sorry dude, you rick rolled in honor of April Fool’s Day. But oh, how I wish the story were true.

HumpBot Salvation on April 1, 2014 at 1:29 PM

There maybe 7 million that have it and the numbers will increase, I would like to know how many like it with the high premiums and deductibles???

garydt on April 1, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Poor poor everdiso. All the chanting has paid off. He is a full cult member now. He actually believes this stuff.

faraway on April 1, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Obama has changed it 37 times of the fly it’s a “law”in name only…

sorrowen on April 1, 2014 at 1:32 PM

faraway on April 1, 2014 at 1:31 PM

He had his chance. ; )

Bmore on April 1, 2014 at 1:34 PM

When has this Data Denial ever worked out for you ever before?

everdiso on April 1, 2014 at 12:58 PM

Stimulus.
Unemployment.
Cash for Clunker.
GM Bailout.
TARP.
And so on….

PetecminMd on April 1, 2014 at 1:48 PM

I mean you guys aren’t really deluding yourselves that these numbers won’t be backed up by the insurance companies in a month or two when the final numbers are tabulated? And by the polling on the uninsured rate?

When has this Data Denial ever worked out for you ever before? Why do you think it will start working now?

And what will your excuses be when the premiums for the next signup period turn out not to be significantly higher than they were this time?

You keep doing this same song and dance routine every time the numbers don’t agree with you, and it hasn’t yet worked out for you guys even once.

everdiso on April 1, 2014 at 12:58 PM

The vast majority of the ObamaCare signups either didn’t pay or were insured before.

This has been verified by the RAND corp, the LA Times and McClatchy and is not in dispute.

Chuck Schick on April 1, 2014 at 1:59 PM

Just like the phony poll showing most people support odumbasscare, these reports by un-named schills are nothing more than lies and propaganda (which happens to be what our government does best).

earlgrey on April 1, 2014 at 2:03 PM

The question the central planners/Leftists fail to answer is just how this improves the state of medicine. They have this strange belief that forcing people to buy health insurance with money they don’t have is a political winner. They also think that forcing people to do things is the same as people wanting to do things.

Insurance is not medicine. Insurance is not a redistribution mechanism either, the way Obamacare demands it to be. But when you have a gun (government) at your command everything looks like a target. Leftist thuggery as far as the eye can see, complete with a propaganda arm and federal bureaucracy (with guns) to enforce it.

Another Libertarian on April 1, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Sorry dude, you rick rolled in honor of April Fool’s Day. But oh, how I wish the story were true.

HumpBot Salvation on April 1, 2014 at 1:29 PM

..you sly dog! How I had my hopes up. Oh well, Christmas is coming up. Perhaps something for the stocking.

The War Planner on April 1, 2014 at 2:10 PM

The media is so unbelievably stupid that they will blindly accept that the Barrycare numbers hit their goal exactly the same time that the period was extended.

rmkdbq on April 1, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Look, the world is racist.

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Yea, and 6 million of them were kicked off their insurance by Obunglercare …

Hey AP, how many uninsured who paid are in that number? Try about 106. Clowns.

Whitey Ford on April 1, 2014 at 2:22 PM

We knew this was coming after Sebelius got questioned and derided for not actually standing on the 7M figure last month.

Kissmygrits on April 1, 2014 at 2:33 PM

This X million number can’t be celebrated as some kind of victory, because those people have signed up under duress, under the blunt force of the federal government, and the thugs at the IRS. Their 2013 healthcare plan has been taken away, and all that is now available is a piece-of-crap Obamacare plan. They have no choice.

Celebrating the X million is like Goebbels going to Hitler and saying, look, the Jews are getting on the trains, this means they approve of our final solution!

slickwillie2001 on April 1, 2014 at 2:42 PM

I may lose my job at the beginning of May. It’s currently up in the air again. They gave me papers already and told me I should sign up with MNSure, Minnesota’s version of obamacrap. I wanted to tell them, “When we’re all ice skating in h – e – double toothpicks.” I’ll wait until they actually let me go, take my severance pay and tell them, “I’ll haaaaaave to thiiiiiink about it!” Otherwise I like(d) this job so I’ll be nice.

wutzupdak on April 1, 2014 at 2:42 PM

….how long before they advertise…that they’ll make your first three payments?

KOOLAID2 on April 1, 2014 at 2:57 PM

You keep doing this same song and dance routine every time the numbers don’t agree with you, and it hasn’t yet worked out for you guys even once.

everdiso on April 1, 2014 at 12:58 PM

…how about that?…the HHS “the numbers keep changing”^ secretary ^ …posts on Hot Air!

KOOLAID2 on April 1, 2014 at 3:06 PM

We all should have figured they would magically reach the 7,000,000 number….just like right before the election the unemployment rate magically went down below 9%. And the low information voters buy it hook, line and sinker.

DebinRTP on April 1, 2014 at 3:39 PM

We all should have figured they would magically reach the 7,000,000 number….just like right before the election the unemployment rate magically went down below 9%. And the low information voters buy it hook, line and sinker.

DebinRTP on April 1, 2014 at 3:39 PM

It’s also not something to celebrate, it’s more like a casualty count due to a natural disaster.

slickwillie2001 on April 1, 2014 at 4:15 PM

AP sources: ObamaCare “on track” to hit seven million sign-ups before deadline

America’s undead Dems have been busy.

In other “news”, I was just informed I have inherited $20 million from someone I never knew. It must be true. Someone in Nigeria sent me a genuine email letting me know.

farsighted on April 1, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Just curious: has anyone seen Boehner, Cantor, McConnell, Cornyn or Reince Preibus?

Maybe we should put their pictures on a milk carton?

How’s that ride Obamacare to electoral victory strategy going guys?

Marcus Traianus on April 2, 2014 at 12:31 PM

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