Compassion: Anti-Obamacare cancer patient smeared by Reid now receiving death wishes from liberals

posted at 7:51 pm on April 1, 2014 by Guy Benson

Welcome to your feel-bad story of the month.  Remember Julie Boonstra?  She’s the single mother fighting leukemia who appeared in an anti-Obamacare television ad running in Michigan:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid assailed Ms. Boonstra, and others like her, in a breathtakingly mean-spirited floor speech — going so far as to say that “all” of their negative experiences were “untrue” and “lies.”  Reid now claims he doesn’t remember saying any such thing, but there’s video tape:

In his effort to discredit Boonstra, Reid relied on a Washington Post “fact check,” which effectively ruled her story half true.  In fact, every claim Boonstra made in the ad has been confirmed, as explained by the Detroit News’ Dan Calabrese (see update below):

Boonstra is on five different medications to help deal with her leukemia. The Blue Cross PR spokesman claimed that they are all covered. But when Boonstra went to fill her prescription for Loratadine — a prescription-level equivalent of Claritin that she uses to control congestion brought on by chemotherapy — she was told that Loratadine is not covered. She has not yet attempted to restock any of her other meds but she is already having to come with strategies to deal with that problem. The $5,100 cap on Boonstra’s out-of-pocket spending is for in-network care only. If she has to go out of network, she could spend an additional $10,200…When Boonstra was first diagnosed, she had to go through a painstaking process to get approval for her chemotherapy drugs to be covered. When she finally found insurance she liked, she had no problem with the chemo drugs. She now says that process is starting all over again. Boonstra has already had to cut back on her bone marrow biopsies, which she was having on a regular schedule she had worked out with her doctor, because she doesn’t have clarification on whether these will be covered. I could go on, but the bottom line is this: Julie Boonstra told the truth, and arrogant media “fact checkers” had a lot of nerve claiming she hadn’t when they never even talked to her.

Nevertheless, Reid’s inaccurate nasty gram touched off a torrent of bile from Obamacare supporters,  including this delightful care package Boonstra received in the mail:

Die, because your experience is inconvenient to my “pissed off” ideology. Incidentally, Ms. Boonstra isn’t the only Obamacare victim who received a cancellation notice, and whose subsequent plan presents out-of-pocket hardships:

Breast cancer survivor Ginny Mason was thrilled to get health coverage under the Affordable Care Act despite her pre-existing condition. But when she realized her arthritis medication fell under a particularly costly tier of her plan, she was forced to switch to another brand. Under the plan, her Celebrex would have cost $648 a month until she met her $1,500 prescription deductible, followed by an $85 monthly co-pay. Mason is one of the many Americans with serious illnesses — including cancer, multiple sclerosis and rheumatoid arthritis — who are indeed finding relatively low monthly premiums under President Barack Obama’s law. But some have been shocked at how much their prescriptions are costing as insurers are sorting drug prices into a complex tier system and in some cases charging co-insurance rates as high as 50 percent. That can leave patients on the hook for thousands.

Another example from North Carolina:

Amy Newbold, a 57-year-old saleswoman from Randolph County, N.C., lost her employer insurance last year. Through HealthCare.gov, she found a mid-tier “silver” plan with premiums that at first blush are $75 a month lower than her previous policy. But there are no savings, she said, since her old premiums were paid with pretax dollars and Obamacare premiums are paid with aftertax dollars. Newbold said she faces substantially higher drug costs for arthritis and psoriasis and worries that an out-of-pocket maximum of $5,000 could put needed medicines out of reach. “I feel left out in the cold, and I don’t know why it has to be that way,” she said

Maybe Reid can make these “liars” famous, too.  Indeed, unleashing left-wing wrath on ordinary people for the sin of speaking out must be a pretty effective method of stifling dissent — which is precisely what Reid wants.

UPDATEWaPo’s fact-checker, Glenn Kessler, emails the following statement, taking issue with the Detroit News column excerpted above:

I have to differ with the columnist at the Detroit News, who never bothered to contact me and who also has differed with the reporting of his own newspaper. I repeatedly sought to reach Julie Boonstra and repeatedly pressed Americans for Prosperity for more information to document her statements in the ad. Nothing that has emerged has contradicted my conclusions about the facts in the ad as AFP presented them. Moreover, I awarded Pinocchios to Harry Reid for his remarks about AFP’s ads—and I think those hateful letters to Ms. Boonstra are beneath contempt.


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Animals. They’d load us on trains if given half a chance.

C’mon, trolls. Defend this behavior.

CurtZHP on April 1, 2014 at 7:55 PM

Shameful

sandee on April 1, 2014 at 7:57 PM

Urban Dipshit said these are all made up stories by Faux News and these people are too dumb to understand they had junk plans to begin with.

HumpBot Salvation on April 1, 2014 at 7:57 PM

Bastards.

Starnick on April 1, 2014 at 7:57 PM

It’s because it was based on a right-wing, Heritage Foundation/Mitt Romney approach when a decent single payer plan with the option to buy private insurance on top of basic care would have been simpler and cheaper.

rogerb on April 1, 2014 at 7:58 PM

Disgusting. These animals have no limits or compassion. I weep for our nation.

mumbojumbo on April 1, 2014 at 7:59 PM

Aren’t these so called liberals a lovely bunch of coconuts.

VorDaj on April 1, 2014 at 8:00 PM

“Anti-Obamacare cancer patient smeared by Reid now receiving death wishes from liberals”

Stop using that word “liberals” in that context. It should be DEMOCRATS. She is receiving death threats from DEMOCRATS. “Liberal” doesn’t appear on ballots.

crosspatch on April 1, 2014 at 8:00 PM

This isn’t anything new, fascist thugs acting like fascist thugs when their agenda / vision is opposed or exposed is SOP.

It’s not trying to stifle dissent, it’s all about intimidating and eliminating any dissent by all means possible.

Athos on April 1, 2014 at 8:01 PM

Animals. They’d load us on trains if given half a chance.

C’mon, trolls. Defend this behavior.

CurtZHP on April 1, 2014 at 7:55 PM

I really wish they would try. I really really do.

tru2tx on April 1, 2014 at 8:01 PM

These people can NOT be bargained with.

One way or another they must be “taken down”, and made devoid of any power of governance or political influence within the U.S.
.
There is no ‘tactful’ way of getting around these people.

listens2glenn on April 1, 2014 at 8:02 PM

All leftists are subhuman filth. They have some brainless parasites as fellow travelers who just follow the trail of gravy.

Adjoran on April 1, 2014 at 8:02 PM

This is going to be me if that small business mandate ever kicks in. Reid-Pelosi-Obama want me dead. The feeling is mutual. I really hate what this has turned me into. I’ve never held this attitude before in my whole life.

juliesa on April 1, 2014 at 8:03 PM

Utopia!!!!!!!!

Just die first if you don’t kiss Obama’s ring…

Electrongod on April 1, 2014 at 8:05 PM

…the MSM will give this the attention it should have in 5…4..3…2..
Peters…the low-life who is running for the Michigan US Senate (Carl Levins seat)…tried to shut her up…and she had to advertise specifically at him…since the media would not report the efforts Peters made behind the scenes…to shut Boonstra up!

KOOLAID2 on April 1, 2014 at 8:05 PM

The person who wrote that note to that lady should be hunted down and… well, never mind. I need to cool down.

kam582 on April 1, 2014 at 8:05 PM

Die, because your experience is inconvenient to my “pissed off” ideology.

 
Ha. From our own threads:
 

Many of us are highly educated, and most of us aren’t even drunk, so an easy free rider explanation should be a piece of cake.
 
rogerb on February 21, 2014 at 5:36 PM

 
Hey, I’ll bet you’re up in the years so that this particular problem, very soon, will not even concern you anymore.
 
Dave Turson on February 21, 2014 at 5:50 PM

rogerb on April 1, 2014 at 8:06 PM

And Republicans here in PA wonder why I get on them
about their chicken sh&t lack of b@lls in dealing with
Democrats….yeah, you keep trying to work with this
Human trash guys…..

ToddPA on April 1, 2014 at 8:07 PM

We can mock the pathetic criminal Harry Reid, but his conduct, like that of his gutless leader, portends a dangerous future—corrupt politicians and bureaucrats attacking American citizens for thought, speech and association—whether it be pro life groups, Koch Brothers, or Julia Boonstra speaking truth to power. The message from these thugs to us is —shut up and eat your government porridge.

cthemfly on April 1, 2014 at 8:08 PM

I really hate what this has turned me into. I’ve never held this attitude before in my whole life.

juliesa on April 1, 2014 at 8:03 PM

Stop it right now.

What will the hate get you?

Stop helping those who help the opposition, and tell them why.

It’s a lot easier on your soul.

cozmo on April 1, 2014 at 8:08 PM

Death panels…

OmahaConservative on April 1, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Time for the Brazilian solution.

Mason on April 1, 2014 at 8:10 PM

Sounds like the way some compassionate conservatives here talk about kids.

xNavigator on April 1, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Liberals have no character, no decency.

Whitey Ford on April 1, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Sorry the lady from Michigan has to endure this…

Khun Joe on April 1, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Resident trolls: crickets…

A prerequisite for being a liberal is a willing suspension of reality, enabling them to be blind to their own hypocrisy. A case in point: the “concerned citizen and pissed off citizen of the USA”. Now you’ve done it, Buster – you have made a liar out of Harry Reid and haven’t realized it. Off course you are pissed off; YOU ARE A LIBERAL. Liberals stay in a constant state of unhappiness.

C’mon, trolls suck it up and defend this douchebaggery.

ghostwalker1 on April 1, 2014 at 8:13 PM

In fact, every claim Boonstra made in the ad has been confirmed, as explained by the Detroit News’ Dan Calabrese:

I’d be careful putting too much stake in that article. The author makes a pretty obvious mistake:

Boonstra is on five different medications to help deal with her leukemia. The Blue Cross PR spokesman claimed that they are all covered. But when Boonstra went to fill her prescription for Loratadine — a prescription-level equivalent of Claritin that she uses to control congestion brought on by chemotherapy — she was told that Loratadine is not covered.

Anyone with allergies knows that Loratadine is available OTC and is extremely cheap.

themuppet on April 1, 2014 at 8:13 PM

It’s because it was based on a right-wing, Heritage Foundation/Mitt Romney approach when a decent single payer plan with the option to buy private insurance on top of basic care would have been simpler and cheaper. rogerb on April 1, 2014 at 7:58 PM

Romney’s plan was for uninsureds only, it didn’t force everyone else off their plans or to give rubbers to their employees. And Heritage repented of its plan when the implications were made clear.

So as usual, you lose.

Akzed on April 1, 2014 at 8:15 PM

Sounds like the way some compassionate conservatives here talk about kids. xNavigator on April 1, 2014 at 8:12 PM

We notice a dearth of proof in your post.

Akzed on April 1, 2014 at 8:16 PM

Remember when they protested the Vietnam war because of all the dead US soldiers then spit on US soldiers when they came home?

Or how they lobby for so much $$ for schools but turn a blind eye when those schools fail the children they were built to serve?

Liberalism isn’t about solving people’s problems, it’s about using people’s problems to get more money and political power for themselves.

29Victor on April 1, 2014 at 8:18 PM

xNavigator on April 1, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Bless your heart.

Not quite ready to move up from the kiddie table.

cozmo on April 1, 2014 at 8:19 PM

Die, because your experience is inconvenient to my “pissed off” ideology.

But, of course, there is no media outrage to this the way there was when some lying lesbian faked a nasty receipt explaining why she was stiffed on a tip because she liked girls.

Happy Nomad on April 1, 2014 at 8:19 PM

We notice a dearth of proof in your post.

Akzed on April 1, 2014 at 8:16 PM

They’re not even trying to defend the indefensible now, they’re just flailing for anything to distract from the obvious.

29Victor on April 1, 2014 at 8:20 PM

Reid and this letter proves what we have always known, the Left are mean and vile people.

Techster64 on April 1, 2014 at 8:21 PM

It could be a lot worse. The woman could be a Christian with a cross in Eqypt.

Muslim mob drags young Christian girl from car, beats and stabs her to death in Egypt

Eyewitnesses have given a harrowing account of the murder in Cairo of a young Coptic Christian woman, hauled out of her car and beaten and stabbed to death by a Muslim mob, apparently targeted because of a cross hanging from her rear-view mirror.

An eyewitness appearing on “90 minutes,” a program on the al-Mehwar satellite network, said 25-year-old Mary Sameh George was attacked in her car near a church, where she planned to deliver medicine to an ill and elderly woman.

Protestors climbed onto her car, collapsing the roof, then hauled her from the vehicle, beating and mauling her – to the extent, he said, that portions of her scalp were torn off. She was stabbed multiple times, her throat was slit and when she was dead, the mob torched her car.

The death of Mary Sameh George received little coverage in Egyptian newspapers.

VorDaj on April 1, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Liberals. Easily defined, yet difficult to defeat.

Key West Reader on April 1, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Why are they being called ” liberals”? There is not a smidgen of liberal tendencies in these people .
Aren’t there better terms which describe their types better,
like —
left-wingers, Obama voters, ignorants, communists, marxists, socialists, anti-Americans, maoists, leninists, stalinists, naxalites , trotskyites, bolshoviks, anarchists, che-lovers,
Castronistas, Chavezists, koolaid drinkers, Pelosi worshippers, Reidists, liars, haters, thugs..etc.
?????

burrata on April 1, 2014 at 8:30 PM

As we all know, there are crazies on both sides, sick people like those in article above and several here who has suggested that I myself die of cancer or in a car fire or any number of other horrible sort of ways. I am, like you appalled. I am not, like you, so smug to believe that my side has a monopoly on virtue.

urban elitist on April 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Those “caring” liberals only care about their agenda and themselves. All their talk is a lie.

sadatoni on April 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Loratadine is available OTC and is extremely cheap.

themuppet on April 1, 2014 at 8:13 PM

In a prescription dose?

CurtZHP on April 1, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Sounds like the way some compassionate conservatives here talk about kids.
xNavigator on April 1, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Before
or
after
killing them in hospital laundry rooms ?

burrata on April 1, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Resident trolls: crickets…

A prerequisite for being a liberal is a willing suspension of reality, enabling them to be blind to their own hypocrisy. A case in point: the “concerned citizen and pissed off citizen of the USA”. Now you’ve done it, Buster – you have made a liar out of Harry Reid and haven’t realized it. Off course you are pissed off; YOU ARE A LIBERAL. Liberals stay in a constant state of unhappiness.

C’mon, trolls suck it up and defend this douchebaggery.

ghostwalker1 on April 1, 2014 at 8:13 PM

Reichsmarshall Sebelius: “Some live, and some die.”

slickwillie2001 on April 1, 2014 at 8:33 PM

And right on time, a troll shows up to justify such behavior by playing the moral equivalency game.

CurtZHP on April 1, 2014 at 8:33 PM

I am a ghoul and I am quite proud of it.

Sincerely,

urban elitist on April 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Severely edited for accuracy. :)

22044 on April 1, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Where is the MSM in reporting this bit of news?

SC.Charlie on April 1, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Demorats.

nobama1267 on April 1, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid assailed Ms. Boonstra, and others like her, in a breathtakingly mean-spirited floor speech — going so far as to say that “all” of their negative experiences were “untrue” and “lies.” Reid now claims he doesn’t remember saying any such thing, but there’s video tape:

 

As we all know, there are crazies on both sides, sick people like those in article above and several here who has suggested that I myself die of cancer or in a car fire or any number of other horrible sort of ways. I am, like you appalled. I am not, like you, so smug to believe that my side has a monopoly on virtue.
 
urban elitist on April 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM

 
Anonymous poster on a blog commenting to another anonymous poster on a blog = (D) Senate Minority Leader.
 
Neat.

rogerb on April 1, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Anyone with allergies knows that Loratadine is available OTC and is extremely cheap.

themuppet on April 1, 2014 at 8:13 PM

So is birth control.
But does Sandra the slut buy it ?

burrata on April 1, 2014 at 8:35 PM

I go away for 5 hours. I come back. And you’re still talking about Obamacare?

kcewa on April 1, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Guillotines.

JQA on April 1, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Anyone hear about death panels yet?

SC.Charlie on April 1, 2014 at 8:36 PM

urban elitist on April 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM

.
Hey ! … Ya made it.

Now then … define “your side”, and “our side”.
.
Point out the hotair.com commenters who believe “our side” has “a monopoly on virtue.”

listens2glenn on April 1, 2014 at 8:36 PM

I go away for 5 hours. I come back. And you’re still talking about Obamacare?

kcewa on April 1, 2014 at 8:35 PM

QOTD isn’t up yet

22044 on April 1, 2014 at 8:37 PM

I have felt for some time now that there is another Civil War on the horizon. The chasm between the left and right has grown so wide and the hatred is palpable. I have never felt as much anger and disassociation from fellow ‘Americans’ as I have these past 10 years or so. and it grows worse as time goes along. I already have cut loose all friends and family that are progressive liberals. I want nothing to do with any of them. It’s really sad, but, for me, there is no middle ground here. Either you are a traditional American or you are a liberal. If y’all are a liberal…stay away from me please.

bimmcorp on April 1, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Anyone hear about death panels yet?

SC.Charlie on April 1, 2014 at 8:36 PM

You will soon, but as of right now the defacto death panels are bronze and silver plans that do NOT cover cancer treatment such as chemo and radiation. Pretty much a death plan I’d say.

BeachBum on April 1, 2014 at 8:39 PM

. I am, like you appalled. I am not, like you, so smug to believe that my side has a monopoly on virtue.

urban elitist on April 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM

I’m not one bit appalled. Should the ‘R’ word ever present itself, I look forward to cancelling as many tickets as possible.

Lanceman on April 1, 2014 at 8:40 PM

It’s because it was based on a right-wing, Heritage Foundation/Mitt Romney approach when a decent single payer plan with the option to buy private insurance on top of basic care would have been simpler and cheaper.
 
rogerb on April 1, 2014 at 7:58 PM

 
Romney’s plan was for uninsureds only, it didn’t force everyone else off their plans or to give rubbers to their employees. And Heritage repented of its plan when the implications were made clear.
 
So as usual, you lose.
 
Akzed on April 1, 2014 at 8:15 PM

 
Link, please.
 
Just kidding. Would someone mind fielding this one for me? It’s pretty standard rogerb stuff. I’m afraid my turnaround remarks may have been terribly misinterpreted on the Noah thread, and I don’t want to make it worse.
 
Source post here.

rogerb on April 1, 2014 at 8:40 PM

“I feel left out in the cold, and I don’t know why it has to be that way,” she said

It has to be that way, because Obama, the Democrats, and their brain-dead myrmidon supporters *want* it that way, sweetheart.

Midas on April 1, 2014 at 8:40 PM

illiberal intolerant Fascist-Democrats.

rbj on April 1, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Our beloved Dear Leader was education at the very finest universities where he excelled in reeling and writhing, of course, to begin with and then all the different branches of arithmetic: ambition, distraction, falsification and derision with additional courses in Karl Marx and Napoleon Bonaparte, with history washing for extra credit. Always trust Dear Leader Emperor Barack Hussein Louie Hugo Benito Isuzu Obama the Magnificent in everything he says and does even if the connection between what he says and does is not apparent to your lowly mind.

Cheshire Cat on April 1, 2014 at 8:40 PM

As we all know, there are crazies on both sides, sick people like those in article above and several here who has suggested that I myself die of cancer or in a car fire or any number of other horrible sort of ways. I am, like you appalled. I am not, like you, so smug to believe that my side has a monopoly on virtue.

urban elitist on April 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM

“We are 5 days away from transforming America…” – you know who

Electrongod on April 1, 2014 at 8:40 PM

urban elitist on April 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM

I don’t wish death on you. Not at all. But I do relish the thought of you suffering a really nasty rectal itch. :D

gryphon202 on April 1, 2014 at 8:41 PM

–Calabrese is not a reporter for the Detroit News. He is the editor in chief of the “Best of Cain”. The article was quoted in the Detroit News.

The Detroit News, in that article, reported that:

“Boonstra said Monday her new plan she dislikes is the Blue Cross Premier Gold health care plan, which caps patient responsibility for out-of-pocket costs at $5,100 a year, lower than the federal law’s maximum of $6,350 a year. It means the new plan will save her at least $1,200 compared with her former insurance plan she preferred that was ended under Obamacare’s coverage requirements.”

jim56 on April 1, 2014 at 8:42 PM

disgusting, some people have no soul.

bazil9 on April 1, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Would someone mind fielding this one for me?

rogerb on April 1, 2014 at 8:40 PM

So as usual, you lose.

Akzed on April 1, 2014 at 8:15 PM

rogerb is jerking your chain. He Bished you, as it were.

Lanceman on April 1, 2014 at 8:43 PM

The Detroit News, in that article, reported that:
 
“Boonstra said Monday her new plan she dislikes is the Blue Cross Premier Gold health care plan, which caps patient responsibility for out-of-pocket costs at $5,100 a year, lower than the federal law’s maximum of $6,350 a year. It means the new plan will save her at least $1,200 compared with her former insurance plan she preferred that was ended under Obamacare’s coverage requirements.”
 
jim56 on April 1, 2014 at 8:42 PM

 
You did read this part above, right?
 

The $5,100 cap on Boonstra’s out-of-pocket spending is for in-network care only. If she has to go out of network, she could spend an additional $10,200

 
If not, you probably should.

rogerb on April 1, 2014 at 8:44 PM

As we all know, there are crazies on both sides, sick people like those in article above and several here who has suggested that I myself die of cancer or in a car fire or any number of other horrible sort of ways. I am, like you appalled. I am not, like you, so smug to believe that my side has a monopoly on virtue.

urban elitist on April 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Really, Urban? That’s the best you can do? “Both sides do it?”

I know conservatives don’t have a monopoly on virtue. But I do know that one side has a monopoly on hate crime hoaxes. And it ain’t mine.

gryphon202 on April 1, 2014 at 8:44 PM

You don’t understand Guy. Obama plans for these folks to DIE!

Thus decreasing health care costs!

It will also work to eliminate those on Social Security.

GarandFan on April 1, 2014 at 8:44 PM

I thought liberals were against bullying.

crankyoldlady on April 1, 2014 at 8:44 PM

I have felt for some time now that there is another Civil War on the horizon. The chasm between the left and right has grown so wide and the hatred is palpable. I have never felt as much anger and disassociation from fellow ‘Americans’ as I have these past 10 years or so. and it grows worse as time goes along. I already have cut loose all friends and family that are progressive liberals. I want nothing to do with any of them. It’s really sad, but, for me, there is no middle ground here. Either you are a traditional American or you are a liberal. If y’all are a liberal…stay away from me please.

What did Clemenza say in The Godfather? Something along the lines of there needed to be a war every few years to clear out the bad blood. Maybe we’re long overdue for a Civil War to do just that.

My liberal friends and family and I still get along if we don’t bring up politics, but sometimes I feel like I’m rapidly becoming an isolationist orphan.

Phoenix7 on April 1, 2014 at 8:45 PM

disgusting, some people have no soul.

bazil9 on April 1, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Gingers? LOLOL Of course, I kid.

gryphon202 on April 1, 2014 at 8:45 PM

I thought liberals were against bullying.

crankyoldlady on April 1, 2014 at 8:44 PM

To liberals, bullying = standing up to the Gay Mafia.

CurtZHP on April 1, 2014 at 8:46 PM

If Harry Reid dies before I do, I will mourn his death like Fred Phelps.

I.e. not at all.

22044 on April 1, 2014 at 8:47 PM

bazil9 on April 1, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Gingers? LOLOL Of course, I kid.

gryphon202 on April 1, 2014 at 8:45 PM

She’s referring to me.

And she’s right.

Put me in the turret and line ‘em up. I won’t have an attack of conscience when it comes time to drop the hammer on pieces of dirt.

Lanceman on April 1, 2014 at 8:48 PM

he Detroit News, in that article, reported that:

“Boonstra said Monday her new plan she dislikes is the Blue Cross Premier Gold health care plan, which caps patient responsibility for out-of-pocket costs at $5,100 a year, lower than the federal law’s maximum of $6,350 a year. It means the new plan will save her at least $1,200 compared with her former insurance plan she preferred that was ended under Obamacare’s coverage requirements.”

jim56 on April 1, 2014 at 8:42 PM

You did read this part above, right?

The $5,100 cap on Boonstra’s out-of-pocket spending is for in-network care only. If she has to go out of network, she could spend an additional $10,200

If not, you probably should.

rogerb on April 1, 2014 at 8:44 PM

–I did. But the Detroit News’ conclusion was that she was going to save money. It wasn’t that everything she wrote was true. That’s what Calabrese (not associated with the Detroit News) wrote.

jim56 on April 1, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Anyone with allergies knows that Loratadine is available OTC and is extremely cheap.

themuppet on April 1, 2014 at 8:13 PM

That depends on what dose you get it in. And cheap drugs have never stopped the Sandra Flukes of the world from complaining about having to pay for them.

gryphon202 on April 1, 2014 at 8:49 PM

Mr. 1-800-EAT-$HIT might change his tune if he gets sick and needs to pay the price for Obysmalcare. Then again, maybe not if he is a UAW member (this is Michigan!), gets free bennies and is now a part-owner of Government Motors, thanks to Obama (even though Detroit still went bankrupt). His next angry letter will be to the VW “scabs” in Tennessee who refused to unionize…

Steve Z on April 1, 2014 at 8:50 PM

jim56 on April 1, 2014 at 8:42 PM

You did read this part above, right?

The $5,100 cap on Boonstra’s out-of-pocket spending is for in-network care only. If she has to go out of network, she could spend an additional $10,200

If not, you probably should.

rogerb on April 1, 2014 at 8:44 PM

 
BTW, that’s “an additional $10,200″, not $10,200 – $5100.
 
$10,200 + $5100.
 
FWIW, those amounts are probably why she was pro-choice about her insurance, but you forced your way into her bedroom with your coat hanger of healthcare legislation.
 
Congratulations.

rogerb on April 1, 2014 at 8:50 PM

rogerb on April 1, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Remember the stalinist lawyer jimbo3?

That’s him. He’s back.

Murphy9 on April 1, 2014 at 8:52 PM

As we all know, there are crazies on both sides, sick people like those in article above and several here who has suggested that I myself die of cancer or in a car fire or any number of other horrible sort of ways. I am, like you appalled. I am not, like you, so smug to believe that my side has a monopoly on virtue.

urban elitist on April 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Ah, yes – the both sides fallacy. Could you name, and link to, the several here who has (sic) suggested that [you] die of carncer, or in a car fire…

There is no thinner reed (or Reid, in this case) than the false claim of equivalence, in your case by assertion only, with no proof.

massrighty on April 1, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Remember the stalinist lawyer jimbo3?

That’s him. He’s back.

Murphy9 on April 1, 2014 at 8:52 PM

jim56 is jamesbo? I’ll be damned. I’d forgotten about him.

Lanceman on April 1, 2014 at 8:54 PM

urban elitist on April 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Ah, yes – the both sides fallacy. Could you name, and link to, the several here who has (sic) suggested that [you] die of carncer, or in a car fire…

There is no thinner reed (or Reid, in this case) than the false claim of equivalence, in your case by assertion only, with no proof.

massrighty on April 1, 2014 at 8:52 PM

I was guilty on this very thread of wishing an intolerable rectal itch on U.E. but that’s the closest I think I’ve ever come to wishing death on anyone here. :P

gryphon202 on April 1, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Someone – anyone – *please* publicly identify the person who wrote and sent that letter.

*Please*.

Midas on April 1, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Gingers? LOLOL Of course, I kid.

gryphon202 on April 1, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Gingers? huh? *blonde here*

bazil9 on April 1, 2014 at 8:55 PM

As we all know, there are crazies on both sides, sick people like those in article above and several here who has suggested that I myself die of cancer or in a car fire or any number of other horrible sort of ways. I am, like you appalled. I am not, like you, so smug to believe that my side has a monopoly on virtue.

urban elitist on April 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM

So your defense is crawling into a smug sneering turtleshell and saying you’re just as bad?

You’re wrong of course, because liberals do think they have a monopoly on virtue. What do you think fuels fools like Reid?

They believe they are virtuous. And you allow them to get away with it.

itsspideyman on April 1, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Ah, yes – the both sides fallacy.

massrighty on April 1, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Oh and Mass, it’s not a fallacy. It’s a lie.

gryphon202 on April 1, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Ah, yes – the both sides fallacy. Could you name, and link to, the several here who has (sic) suggested that [you] die of carncer, or in a car fire…

massrighty on April 1, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Yep. Whenever the obvious can no longer be denied, it’s “A pox on both houses!”

Lanceman on April 1, 2014 at 8:56 PM

your coat hanger of healthcare legislation.

Congratulations.

rogerb on April 1, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Ouch!
Consider that borrowed, rogerb.

massrighty on April 1, 2014 at 8:56 PM

Gingers? LOLOL Of course, I kid.

gryphon202 on April 1, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Gingers? huh? *blonde here*

bazil9 on April 1, 2014 at 8:55 PM

I dunno. When I hear someone has no soul, first thing I picture is a redheaded freckle-face who can’t be out in the sun without burning. Then I remember in the context of a conservative PCE blog, they’re probably talking about progressives.

gryphon202 on April 1, 2014 at 8:56 PM

And if you vote Democrat you support this kind of behavior.

Democrats remind of some sleazy sports team that just cares about winning no matter what the cost is. Not because they have the best idea or about what is right. Owe-bama-care is proof their ideas stink.

Nat George on April 1, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Someone – anyone – *please* publicly identify the person who wrote and sent that letter.

*Please*.

Midas on April 1, 2014 at 8:55 PM

HAL

22044 on April 1, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Someone – anyone – *please* publicly identify the person who wrote and sent that letter.

*Please*.

Midas on April 1, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Maybe Spike Lee will tweet it.

And maybe it’ll be the correct address this time.

Lanceman on April 1, 2014 at 8:57 PM

gryphon202 on April 1, 2014 at 8:56 PM

oh..lol..okay

bazil9 on April 1, 2014 at 8:57 PM

I have felt for some time now that there is another Civil War on the horizon. The chasm between the left and right has grown so wide and the hatred is palpable. I have never felt as much anger and disassociation from fellow ‘Americans’ as I have these past 10 years or so. and it grows worse as time goes along. I already have cut loose all friends and family that are progressive liberals. I want nothing to do with any of them. It’s really sad, but, for me, there is no middle ground here. Either you are a traditional American or you are a liberal. If y’all are a liberal…stay away from me please.

bimmcorp on April 1, 2014 at 8:38 PM

Yep, this is pretty much where I am, too. I’ve resigned myself to the notion that another civil war is fairly well unavoidable at this point. Just a matter of time.

Midas on April 1, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Phoenix7 on April 1, 2014 at 8:45 PM

My family never could gather without some sort of discussion of politics coming up. As on of the elders, I find my nieces and nephews to be insufferable, whining liberals, with their hands out with the expectations that they are owed all of the amenities that used to be reserved for those who worked for and earned them. I am incapable of keeping my mouth shut around such people, so I am a persona non grata with them. I love your ‘Godfather’ reference, too.

bimmcorp on April 1, 2014 at 8:57 PM

urban onanist on April 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM

Really, Urban? That’s the best you can do? “Both sides do it?”

I know conservatives don’t have a monopoly on virtue. But I do know that one side has a monopoly on hate crime hoaxes. And it ain’t mine.

gryphon202 on April 1, 2014 at 8:44 PM

A good sign; the final fallback position of the progs, when all else has failed, is that “they all do it”.

slickwillie2001 on April 1, 2014 at 8:58 PM

And if you vote Democrat you support this kind of behavior.

Democrats remind of some sleazy sports team that just cares about winning no matter what the cost is. Not because they have the best idea or about what is right. Owe-bama-care is proof their ideas stink.

Nat George on April 1, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Well it’s working, right? I mean, they are winning, right? And even with Republicans in charge, progressive ideas still march right along and advance.

gryphon202 on April 1, 2014 at 8:58 PM

I was guilty on this very thread of wishing an intolerable rectal itch on U.E. but that’s the closest I think I’ve ever come to wishing death on anyone here. :P

gryphon202 on April 1, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Painful rectal itch (or, better yet, the dreaded gas with oily discharge, would be a harmless hex to toss around – not unlike “a pox on both your houses!”

Not wishing painful death.
Sundial set for UE’s response – he may still be looking up the big words.

massrighty on April 1, 2014 at 9:00 PM

Congratulations.

rogerb on April 1, 2014 at 8:50 PM

Instant Classic!

JusDreamin on April 1, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Painful rectal itch (or, better yet, the dreaded gas with oily discharge, would be a harmless hex to toss around – not unlike “a pox on both your houses!”

Not wishing painful death.
Sundial set for UE’s response – he may still be looking up the big words.

massrighty on April 1, 2014 at 9:00 PM

May you develop anal fissures that never heal!

LOLOLOL

gryphon202 on April 1, 2014 at 9:01 PM

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