Survey: 65% of Brazilians wholly or partially agree that raping women in revealing clothing is justified

posted at 5:21 pm on March 31, 2014 by Allahpundit

Nearly as shocking as the topline result is the sample. Fully two-thirds of the respondents were women.

Brazilian newspaper Folha de S. Paulo reported a survey released this week by the government’s Institute of Applied Economic Research (IPEA), found that most Brazilian – about 65 – percent agree that it is justified to rape women “wearing clothes showing their bodies.”

About 58 percent of respondents also agreed that “if women knew how to behave, there would be fewer rapes.”…

The study also showed that 91 percent of Brazilians agree that “a man beating his wife has to go to jail” while 82 percent disagree with the statement that “a woman who gets beaten at home should be quiet to not harm the children.”

Folha de S. Paulo reported that the study concluded that in regards to sexual violence, “most people still consider women as responsible for the behavior due to wearing of provocative clothing or ‘inappropriate’ behavior” and yet they believe physical violence is not tolerated.

Like most Americans, my knowledge of Brazil consists mainly of Carnival, beaches, and a hot climate (and soccer, of course). I assumed showing your body was just part of the dress code for both sexes.

Here’s the poll data for those who can read Portuguese. The excerpt is misleading in one respect: Apparently, the 65 percent figure includes people who “partially” believe that rape is justified depending upon what a woman’s hearing. What that means precisely, I have no idea. (Also no idea: How much or little clothing constitutes provocativeness.) Maybe they think rapists deserve to be prosecuted but that the victims share moral blame if they’re showing off? In that case, do the people who “wholly” believe rape is justified in those circumstances think rapists should … walk scot free? I don’t get the distinction either between physical violence, which is a fairly strict no-no in the poll, and sexual violence. What do these people imagine goes on during rape? What am I missing here?

Lest you think English-language media is distorting the results of the survey, there was sufficient outrage at the poll in Brazil itself to kickstart a social-media campaign. Result: Many more photos on Twitter and Facebook of Brazilian women taking it all off to prove a point.


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“Hey Hillary, why don’t we buy a vacation home in Brazil?”

-Bill Clinton

portlandon on March 31, 2014 at 5:23 PM

Uh oh. Here we go…

OmahaConservative on March 31, 2014 at 5:23 PM

Uh oh. Here we go…

OmahaConservative on March 31, 2014 at 5:23 PM

Stop “slut shaming.”///

melle1228 on March 31, 2014 at 5:26 PM

Invade Brazil!

vlad martel on March 31, 2014 at 5:26 PM

Result: Many more photos on Twitter and Facebook of Brazilian women taking it all off to prove a point.

Brilliant response. /sarc

Women’s lib was all fun and games, until biology and human nature got involved.

There is no excuse to rape a person, ever.

but let me follow that up with another fact:

There is no excuse to rob a person, ever.

Doesn’t mean you should walk through wearing a Rolex… just sayin.

nullrouted on March 31, 2014 at 5:26 PM

Doesn’t mean you should walk through [insert-sleazy-neighborhood-here] wearing a Rolex… just sayin.

nullrouted on March 31, 2014 at 5:26 PM

nullrouted on March 31, 2014 at 5:27 PM

“Hey Hillary, why don’t we buy a vacation home in Brazil?”

-Bill Clinton

portlandon on March 31, 2014 at 5:23 PM

“They harbored ex-Nazi bigshots. Surely they’ll put up with a corrupt celebrity rapist ex-president!”

itsnotaboutme on March 31, 2014 at 5:27 PM

Lest you think English-language media is distorting the results of the survey, there was sufficient outrage at the poll in Brazil itself to kickstart a social-media campaign. Result: Many more photos on Twitter and Facebook of Brazilian women taking it all off to prove a point.

Faith in Brazilians only partially restored.

rbj on March 31, 2014 at 5:27 PM

“Hey Hillary, why don’t we buy a vacation home in Brazil?”

-Bill Clinton

portlandon on March 31, 2014 at 5:23 PM

…I am sorry!…I did have to laugh!

KOOLAID2 on March 31, 2014 at 5:28 PM

I would argue that this idea is the logical outcome of a society that has de-civilized itself via weapons control. If we adopt gun control here, it won’t be long before raping women and beating up the elderly becomes as popular here as in Brazil.

thuja on March 31, 2014 at 5:31 PM

“Hey Hillary, why don’t we buy a vacation home in Brazil?”

-Bill Clinton

portlandon on March 31, 2014 at 5:23 PM

Bill asked Killary for permission? Sorry – not buying that!

22044 on March 31, 2014 at 5:32 PM

Do not lock your doors. No alarm system. Expensive items easily visible through curtains.
There is a thief, he will attempt to rob someone. Who is he going to rob?

Young unarmed woman at night going to a walk up ATM machine.
There is a thief, he will attempt to rob someone. Who is he going to rob?

The same thing goes for rapists. They are going to take the most valuable easy target that is presented to them. They exist, they are going to attempt to rape someone. That is life. That is just what it is. Go Armed, go clothed enough to conceal, and do not put yourself in situations where you are defenseless. Rapists also come in gang sized versions and many times come armed as well.

Ultimately it is the bad guy’s fault. Small comfort to you for that. At least our society will scream at the tops of their lungs that you cannot be blamed as the victim. You are blameless. Comforting, huh.

You cannot be blamed for being provocatively dressed. For walking through dark alleyways. At night. In gangland. Alone. Unarmed. No blame on you at all. All that lack of blame will totally make your rape less traumatic.

astonerii on March 31, 2014 at 5:33 PM

They just come to work. They jump the border. Large numbers end up in trouble with the law. Many in jail for sex crimes.

Na, the open borders are not a problem…..

src….

APACHEWHOKNOWS on March 31, 2014 at 5:34 PM

I would argue that this idea is the logical outcome of a society that has de-civilized itself via weapons control. If we adopt gun control here, it won’t be long before raping women and beating up the elderly becomes as popular here as in Brazil.

thuja on March 31, 2014 at 5:31 PM

Well, I tend to think that Brazilian men would think twice before raping a woman in a bikini with a gun strapped to her hip…

melle1228 on March 31, 2014 at 5:34 PM

My wife and I raise my daughter to understand male sexuality. Men are aroused by sight.

We can close our eyes and stick our heads in the sand if we like, but the truth won’t be changed. If a woman dresses more provacitively, men are going to think, “She wants it!”

And if she covers up, less men will think that.

It doesn’t justify rape.

Baggi on March 31, 2014 at 5:36 PM

Tall and tan and young and lovely, the girl from Ipanema goes walking, and when she passes, each one she passes goes…”Check her out man…she’s just asking for it!”

otlset on March 31, 2014 at 5:37 PM

I must say that I am quite disappointed to find that no documentary visual illustrations accompanied this post. How are we to make up our minds if we can’s see all of the evidence?

Tom Servo on March 31, 2014 at 5:38 PM

Well, I tend to think that Brazilian men would think twice before raping a woman in a bikini with a gun strapped to her hip…

melle1228 on March 31, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Melle, I think you’ve stumbled onto a new business opportunity:

Designing the bikini that can support the weight of a fully-loaded glock…

nullrouted on March 31, 2014 at 5:38 PM

What a crock.
Brazilians adore their women.

NeoKong on March 31, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Stop “slut shaming.”///

melle1228 on March 31, 2014 at 5:26 PM

I wonder if liberals have ever thought that term through. If I’m to ‘stop slut-shaming’ doesn’t that essentially admit that the person I am shaming is in fact a slut (and thus…worth of shame)?

nullrouted on March 31, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Designing the bikini that can support the weight of a fully-loaded glock…

nullrouted on March 31, 2014 at 5:38 PM

I can think of just 2 places to set it, but only one is family-friendly.

nobar on March 31, 2014 at 5:44 PM

Brazil is one of the more dangerous countries as far as crime goes in the world so its hardly surprising.

sharrukin on March 31, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Like most Americans, my knowledge of Brazil consists mainly of Carnival, beaches, and a hot climate (and soccer, of course).

My opinion of Brazil was formed by the movies “blame it on Rio” and “Anaconda”.

DFCtomm on March 31, 2014 at 5:55 PM

Stop “slut shaming.”///

melle1228 on March 31, 2014 at 5:26 PM

This will make my topics at family dinners more scarce.

nobar on March 31, 2014 at 5:56 PM

Brazil is a great country.
My better half is a LEGAL immigrant from there.
They DO have quite a different culture than us though.

Hey reading that Poll data ( I can read Portuguese.) It isn’t as bad as it seems 78% Agree that a man who beats his wife should go to jail that’s good right?

Although 58% Say that if women knew how to behave themselves there would be LESS Rape….

82% disagree that “a Woman who takes a beating at home should just be quiet about it.” so that’s good!

Dunno its…. Different over there. Been there they are really good people. (I am biased though. ;) )

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on March 31, 2014 at 5:56 PM

About 58 percent of respondents also agreed that “if women knew how to behave, there would be fewer rapes.”…

See, that could mean a lot of things. To a democrat, if you pee on yourself you might get out of the rape. To a conservative, having a gun can help.

chris0christies0donut on March 31, 2014 at 5:57 PM

“Hey Hillary, why don’t we buy a vacation home in Brazil?”

-Bill Clinton

portlandon on March 31, 2014 at 5:23 PM

Unrealistic. They dont even live together, they actively avoid being in the same house. They would never go on vacation together!

Valkyriepundit on March 31, 2014 at 5:58 PM

This just in: 65% of Brazilians are wholly or partially savages living in the Stone Age.

Whitey Ford on March 31, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Designing the bikini that can support the weight of a fully-loaded glock…

nullrouted on March 31, 2014 at 5:38 PM

Already designed.

oscarwilde on March 31, 2014 at 5:59 PM

BTW
The lady holding the sign in the title picture says:

“# I don’t deserve to be raped.”

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on March 31, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Already designed.

oscarwilde on March 31, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Not that your evidence isn’t compelling, but could you produce more (minus the lace)? :)

nobar on March 31, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Already designed.

oscarwilde on March 31, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Thank you for that… But seriously, I’m seeing far too much support structure for Rio beach use on there. =P

nullrouted on March 31, 2014 at 6:04 PM

Already designed.

oscarwilde on March 31, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Not that your evidence isn’t compelling, but could you produce more (minus the lace)? :)

nobar on March 31, 2014 at 6:02 PM

ROTFLMAO… Yea, bet you would like that…

oscarwilde on March 31, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Apparently, the 65 percent figure includes people who “partially” believe that rape is justified depending upon what a woman’s hearing.

Weird. Maybe she is hearing this. Maybe its just a typo. Are Brazilians considered Latino?

Bmore on March 31, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Apparently, the 65 percent figure includes people who “partially” believe that rape is justified depending upon what a woman’s hearing.

So if she’s hearing “I’m a millionaire, let’s go for a ride in my Maserati”, it won’t be called rape? What?

slickwillie2001 on March 31, 2014 at 6:11 PM

rape is justified depending upon what a woman’s hearing.

may want to correct hearing to wearing……you hear me? :)

dmacleo on March 31, 2014 at 6:11 PM

Hey, open borders and amnesty for all illegals from every corner of the rotten, festering third world, because….hey, they sooooo respect our American values.

MichaelGabriel on March 31, 2014 at 6:13 PM

The lady holding the sign in the title picture says:

“# I don’t deserve to be raped.”

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on March 31, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Pity she’s not also holding a sign that says “I’m smart enough to know how to reduce my chances of being raped.”

Pless1foEngrish on March 31, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Melle, I think you’ve stumbled onto a new business opportunity:

Designing the bikini that can support the weight of a fully-loaded glock…

nullrouted on March 31, 2014 at 5:38 PM

Is that a glock in your bikini or are you just happy to see me? Or am I at the wrong beach?

HumpBot Salvation on March 31, 2014 at 6:16 PM

In the words of Brazilian singer Maria Rita, nem toda brasileira é bunda.

steebo77 on March 31, 2014 at 6:26 PM

What that survey suggests is that 65% of Brazilians think the women athletes in the 2016 Olympics deserve….

Can’t wait till the Olymipics are awarded to a Muslim country.
Pole vaulting in Burkas should be a pretty entertaining event.

MichaelGabriel on March 31, 2014 at 6:28 PM

3rd world country full of cretins…what do you expect?

Raquel Pinkbullet on March 31, 2014 at 6:30 PM

Learn something new everyday. Could have linked just the audio pronunciation. One hell of a link. Good thing we have short links here at HA. ; )

Bmore on March 31, 2014 at 6:32 PM

As a female, I very avidly support teaching young women that modesty is a virtue to be desired. Think before you act, including what you wear, where you go, and who you’re with.

OTOH, not for a single second will I encourage them to think they are to be held responsible for a man’s actions when he lacks the self-control to deal with his own sexual desires. That’s the best way in the world to give men a crutch for failing to develop self-control.

lineholder on March 31, 2014 at 6:33 PM

There’s a reason the third world is called the third world.

VorDaj on March 31, 2014 at 6:35 PM

The IPEA is a government body that used to be fairly independent (even during the military dictatorship) but has been colonized by politically appointed hardcore party hacks in recent years (the current chairman is also a minister in Dilma’s government). That has included good old-fashioned purges of researchers who are perceived to be out of line with the Labour Party preferred policies. Including some of their most prestigious elements who had been working there for decades.

Personally I’m extremely sceptical of anything they put out these days. I believe their stuff to the same extent I believe in Venezuelan or Argentinian official economic statistics.

With that said, at no point the word rape is used in the question. The verb used is “attacked”: “Mulheres que usam roupas que mostram o corpo merecem ser atacadas.” In Portuguese, attack (ataque) doesn’t imply physical assault; e.g. verbal criticism does qualify. Had they used the word rape (violação/estupro), the results would obviously be different.

Then again, I believe the biggest problem here isn’t the wording but a sampling error introduced by the study authors to produce the results they wanted. Very convenient when their boss (functionally and politically) will be facing elections in 6 months. She’s a woman.

No other poll or research has ever showed anything remotely similar to this and even though violent criminality is still pretty much endemic in Brazil, sexual violence against women is low relatively to the overall crime rate.

Result: Many more photos on Twitter and Facebook of Brazilian women taking it all off to prove a point.

There’s a counter-campaign: Brazilian women posting photos on Twitter and Facebook with papers that read “Eu não mereço ser atacada pelo IPEA” – translation: “I don’t deserve to be fooled by the IPEA”. They keep their clothes on though.

http://imgur.com/9KhYIP9
http://imgur.com/YlGZhjL
http://imgur.com/svCVwBM
http://imgur.com/H7zEI7k
http://imgur.com/QwZZSDr

joana on March 31, 2014 at 6:45 PM

joana on March 31, 2014 at 6:45 PM

Você é brasileira?

steebo77 on March 31, 2014 at 6:51 PM

Weird. Maybe she is hearing this. Maybe its just a typo. Are Brazilians considered Latino?

Bmore on March 31, 2014 at 6:09 PM

Yes brazilians are Latinos, but not Hispanics.

coolrepublica on March 31, 2014 at 6:51 PM

Of course, 95% of ‘women’ dressed in ‘revealing’ clothes on NJ beaches will get a pass…

vnvet on March 31, 2014 at 6:55 PM

steebo77 on March 31, 2014 at 6:51 PM

Nope. Os meus avôs maternos são portugueses mas viveram muitos anos no Brasil, um dos meus irmãos vive lá e eu visito-o com alguma frequência.

joana on March 31, 2014 at 6:58 PM

joana on March 31, 2014 at 6:58 PM

Que legal. Não se esqueça de vestir-se modestamente a próxima vez que você visita.

steebo77 on March 31, 2014 at 7:06 PM

Insanity.

CW on March 31, 2014 at 7:49 PM

Brazil demographics…

According to the IBGE census: 74% are Roman Catholics (about 130 million); 15.4% are Protestants (about 28 million); 7.4% consider themselves agnostics, atheists or without a religion …

Brazil has the largest Roman Catholic population in the world.

hepcat on March 31, 2014 at 8:01 PM

Survey: 65% of Brazilians wholly or partially agree that raping women in revealing clothing is justified

I wonder how many of those 65% were male….

There Goes the Neighborhood on March 31, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Survey: 65% of Brazilians wholly or partially agree that raping women in revealing clothing is justified

I wonder how many of those 65% were male….

There Goes the Neighborhood on March 31, 2014 at 8:33 PM

Fully two-thirds of the respondents were women.

sharrukin on March 31, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Survey: 65% of Brazilians wholly or partially agree that raping women in revealing clothing is justified

I wonder how many of those 65% were male….

There Goes the Neighborhood on March 31, 2014 at 8:33 PM


Fully two-thirds of the respondents were women.

sharrukin on March 31, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Total respondents, yes. I mean, how many of the 65% agreeing specifically were male.

The breakdown is probably in there, somewhere.

(Although I wouldn’t be surprised if a fairly large number of women agreed. Women at least seem to be harsher judges of other women than most men are.)

There Goes the Neighborhood on March 31, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Ask it this way: “Is it justified for someone to rape your sister, daughter, mother, or wife, if she is “wearing clothes showing her body.”

Methinks the poll results will come out a lot different.

s1im on March 31, 2014 at 10:26 PM

Of course, 95% of ‘women’ dressed in ‘revealing’ clothes on NJ beaches will get a pass…

vnvet on March 31, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Snookie.

Solaratov on March 31, 2014 at 11:11 PM

They’re just ahead of the curve. Mass immigration is turning America into northern Brazil.

David Blue on April 1, 2014 at 4:31 AM

As a female, I very avidly support teaching young women that modesty is a virtue to be desired. Think before you act, including what you wear, where you go, and who you’re with.

OTOH, not for a single second will I encourage them to think they are to be held responsible for a man’s actions when he lacks the self-control to deal with his own sexual desires. That’s the best way in the world to give men a crutch for failing to develop self-control.

lineholder on March 31, 2014 at 6:33 PM

This I agree with. A lot of the comments that are more along the lines of “I’m not saying it’s your fault…but it kind of is…” really tick me off, but this I’m on board with. Same reason I can’t wear blue suede shoes to important client meetings, at a certain point you need to accept that irrational reactions are a fact of life.

A guy I work with used to work with a, shall we say, well endowed lady who liked to flaunt her most noticeable visible traits, and it was super awkward for my friend to point this out to her, but he explained to her that while the other guys certainly enjoyed her attire, they didn’t take her as seriously as she deserved to be taken because there was this gravitational pull dragging the men’s eyes away from eye contact/listening to what she was saying. She took it to heart, started dressing differently, and I think she’s an executive somewhere now.

When it comes to rape, if a woman isn’t physically safe dressing however she likes wherever she likes, that’s not her responsibility to fix, it’s ours, and the “You wouldn’t wear a rolex in a bad neighborhood” raises the question of where are these pockets of men who need rape like an impoverished robber in a bad neighborhood needs cash?

galenrox on April 1, 2014 at 6:53 AM

The notion that behavior is never responsible for calamity is absurd.

Ricard on April 1, 2014 at 8:42 AM

Yes brazilians are Latinos, but not Hispanics.

coolrepublica on March 31, 2014 at 6:51 PM

People here did not understand why I asked. I see that you did. I know referencing this the wrong way can piss some folks off. Its a subtle thing for me to understand. I always like to check.

Bmore on April 1, 2014 at 8:58 AM

Someone on the headline thread noted that the word used was not the word for rape but the word for “attack”, which could be taken to mean a verbal attack, as well. That made the other result make more sense, as well.

GWB on April 1, 2014 at 9:02 AM

As a female, I very avidly support teaching young women that modesty is a virtue to be desired. Think before you act, including what you wear, where you go, and who you’re with.

OTOH, not for a single second will I encourage them to think they are to be held responsible for a man’s actions when he lacks the self-control to deal with his own sexual desires. That’s the best way in the world to give men a crutch for failing to develop self-control.

lineholder on March 31, 2014 at 6:33 PM

Agree.

I believe most men would not rape a woman regardless of how much or how little clothing she had on. If I’m right about men, then the ones who rape because a woman reveals too much would rape anyone for any reason. A good man could not hurt or force himself on a woman and a bad man wouldn’t need much of an excuse.

magicbeans on April 1, 2014 at 10:11 AM

65% of Brazilians …

… hurt like hell. The rest are merely very painful.

Nomennovum on April 1, 2014 at 12:57 PM

That sounds like a lot. How much is 65% of a brazillion?

Kevin M on April 1, 2014 at 4:06 PM