Video: Gunman invades Dollar General, meets concealed carry permit holder

posted at 11:01 am on March 30, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

Another story crosses our desk, courtesy of Rationality Rebooted. I’ve gone through a few reports of this story and it’s still not clear why Kevin Mclaughlin went into the Dollar General in Orrville, Alabama last week, but it certainly wasn’t to find a good deal on tube socks. He began shouting and waving a gun around, herding customers and an employee into a back room. Things were looking bad, but that’s when he ran into Marlo Ellis.

One person is dead after a customer at the Dollar General in Orrville began shouting and waving his gun in the air.

Dallas County Sheriff Harris Huffman said the incident appeared to be a case of self-defense and no one has been arrested in connection with the shooting Thursday afternoon.

The incident occurred when Dallas County resident Kevin Mclaughlin entered Dollar General reportedly waving a pistol in the air, Huffman said. Mclaughlin then ushered a group of people inside the store into a break room.

“It appears that once the cashier got inside the break room, a customer that was walking into the break room shot the individual, the white male, with the pistol,” Huffman said. “There was only one shot fired and that shot struck the individual with the pistol causing the disturbance.”

District Attorney Michael Jackson confirmed the customer who reportedly shot Mclaughlin was Orrville resident Marlo Ellis.

Huffman said Ellis used his own weapon in the incident.

In a refreshing change of pace, Ellis is even being identified by local media using the H word.

Law enforcement officials are calling Marlo Ellis a hero in the wake of Thursday’s shooting at the Dollar General in Orrville.

Dallas County Sheriff’s Department chief deputy Randy Pugh said McLaughlin’s motive is still unclear, but the death appeared to be a case of self-defense.

“We don’t know what would have happened, but we know what could have happened,” Pugh said. “We see every indication that the shooting was a case of self defense.”

One shot fired, one suspect down and no other injuries. The suspect was dead at the scene. Not to be too glib, but that’s what I call gun control.

District Attorney Michael Jackson described why Ellis was within his rights.

In Alabama you have the right of self defense of yourself or of a third party. So when the perpetrator went in there with a gun, waving the gun, anybody in there had the right to use deadly force. So that’s what happened and he actually was a Good Samaritan in this situation.

Not a lot more to say on this one, so we’ll close with the video from the local media.


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Heard it from a lot of folks and even in a church service once.

hawkdriver on March 30, 2014 at 1:00 PM

In what context? How would that anecdote be appropriate in a church service?

OmahaConservative on March 30, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Conditional honesty.

hawkdriver on March 30, 2014 at 1:05 PM

I can’t just go around shooting anyone waiving a gun in the air and claim self-defense

nonpartisan on March 30, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Maybe you should practice that waving a gun in the air around some police and report back on how it worked out?

sharrukin on March 30, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Conditional honesty.

hawkdriver on March 30, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Ahh, OK thanks…

OmahaConservative on March 30, 2014 at 1:09 PM

DinaRehn on March 30, 2014 at 12:59 PM

LOL! Could be but it must have been close quarters if the need to double tap was eliminated.

Cindy Munford on March 30, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Howard Portnoy on March 30, 2014 at 1:09 PM

I think there are days when Jazz has to scrape hard for content. He knows the kinds of stories we like.

butch on March 30, 2014 at 1:13 PM

sharrukin on March 30, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Less efficient use of ammunition to be sure.

Cindy Munford on March 30, 2014 at 1:13 PM

This story is two months old: http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/01/19/customer-carrying-concealed-weapons-shoots-kills-gunman-inside-dollar-store/

Howard Portnoy on March 30, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Better video. Pretty down to Earth no nonsense sheriff.

hawkdriver on March 30, 2014 at 1:14 PM

Here is his obit, not at all what my preconceived notion was…

Kevin McLaughlin

Kevin Oxford McLaughlin, 37, of Orrville, Alabama passed away on January 16, 2014. He was born in Selma Alabama on April 5, 1976.

He is preceded in death by his grandparents, Mr. and Mrs. Malcolm Randolph Oxford and Mr. and Mrs. Roy Lee McLaughlin.

Oxford is survived by his daughter Margaret Elizabeth McLaughlin and his son Caine Oxford McLaughlin of Selma, his parents, Donald and Leah (Buddy) McLaughlin of Orrville, his sister Susan McLaughlin Hughes and her husband Trent of Monroeville, his brother, Randolph Bain McLaughlin and his wife Kelly of Orrville, and three nephews.

Oxford graduated from Morgan Academy and went on to graduate from Troy University. He will be remembered for being a devoted son, brother and father. He enjoyed spending time on the family farm with his family and friends. He taught his children how to enjoy his love of God, family, friends and his hobby of hunting.

Funeral services will be at Orrville Baptist Church on Sunday, January 19, 2014 at 2:00 p.m. Burial will follow in New Live Oak Cemetery under the direction of Lawrence-Brown Service Funeral Home. Pastor Stephen Rutherford will officiate the service. The family will receive friends at Orrville Baptist Church an hour prior to the service. Pallbearers will be Pearson Rogers, Ken Carmichael, Hugh Hobbs, Ford Hoke, Terry Gibson, Tripp Bowie, Michael Moseley, and Jamie Bender. Honorary pallbearers will be David Pearce, Jr., Steve Todd, David Summerlin, Richard Ware, Brad Utsey and Rick Schober.

View Full Notice → Kevin McLaughlin

Posted on: Friday, January 17, 2014 in Selma

OmahaConservative on March 30, 2014 at 1:16 PM

OmahaConservative on March 30, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Very sad, something in his life went terribly terribly wrong.

Cindy Munford on March 30, 2014 at 1:20 PM

Very sad, something in his life went terribly terribly wrong.

Cindy Munford on March 30, 2014 at 1:20 PM

Agreed. My deepest sympathy to his family, who obviously loved him…

OmahaConservative on March 30, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Cindy Munford on March 30, 2014 at 1:20 PM
OmahaConservative on March 30, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Yeah, seems there’s more to the story than just some common crook.

hawkdriver on March 30, 2014 at 1:26 PM

hawkdriver on March 30, 2014 at 1:26 PM

I agree. We will probably never know the rest of the story.

Cindy Munford on March 30, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Yeah, seems there’s more to the story than just some common crook.

hawkdriver on March 30, 2014 at 1:26 PM

The sheriff didn’t think robbery was a motive in Howard’s link…

OmahaConservative on March 30, 2014 at 1:30 PM

I can’t just go around shooting anyone waiving a gun in the air and claim self-defense

nonintelligent on March 30, 2014 at 12:35 PM

lol, you waived your last remaining brain cells before you started posting here at Hot Gas.

Hey, I’m gonna take my signal flare gun and go Snipe Hunting later. Wanna join me?

I’m bringing Dick Cheney along for laughs.

Del Dolemonte on March 30, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Yeah, seems there’s more to the story than just some common crook.

hawkdriver on March 30, 2014 at 1:26 PM

While this may be totally true, obits are written by the living for their own purposes.
Obituaries have been known to be…non-factual.

A great-uncle of mine who was an alcoholic and a lazy bastiche as well, received a write-up when he died along the lines of (reality is paranthetical) “Survived by his wife Margret (who left him 20 years ago for abuse) loving daughters Mary and Alicia (who hadn’t seen him face-to-face in a decade)… always enjoyed hunting and fishing (which meant laying around drunk in his fishing shack)…laid to rest in the family plot at XXxxville (after the family had a screaming fight with his current girlfriend who wanted his ashes dumped in the county landfill- Grandma couldn’t stand the thought).

I’ve always cast a somewhat jaundiced eye on obituaries.

Pless1foEngrish on March 30, 2014 at 1:37 PM

The Selma Times-Journal “serving Selma and the Black Belt since 1827″ refers to the center section of the state blessed with rich black topsoil making it an agricultural gem. Lots and lots of rivers in Alabama. Makes for great farmland.

Galtian on March 30, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Nonp i figured you were back at the institution.

CW on March 30, 2014 at 1:49 PM

In fact, the Edmund Pettus Bridge carries U.S. Route 80 across the Alabama River in Selma.

Perhaps you’ve heard of it.

Galtian on March 30, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Galtian on March 30, 2014 at 1:46 PM

Thanks, I thought it may have been something along those lines…

OmahaConservative on March 30, 2014 at 1:53 PM

What kind of knucklehead robs a “Dollar Store”?

JetBoy on March 30, 2014 at 11:08 AM

It was a Dollar General. They carry a wide arrangement of over-the-counter drugs – like cough medicine they keep under lock and key.

Flora Duh on March 30, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Ah, so the robber might have been another fan of Purple Drank.

slickwillie2001 on March 30, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Notice how there is no need to understand the criminal’s life story, or how Democrats made him the way he was, failed him in his education years, and all the other nonsense right up until his bitter end?

Well done, Marlo.

HopeHeFails on March 30, 2014 at 1:57 PM

Ah, so the robber might have been another fan of Purple Drank.

slickwillie2001 on March 30, 2014 at 1:55 PM

The sheriff didn’t think robbery was the motive…

OmahaConservative on March 30, 2014 at 2:00 PM

no, it’s a legit legal question
nonpartisan on March 30, 2014 at 12:35 PM

nonpartisan, referring to something you said last night: can we get your thoughts (being that you’re a Harvard Law grad) on the constitutional ramifications of laws restricting pen!s rights, seeing that pen!ses are used daily in vicious assault on women and children, not to mention spreading deadly diseases like AIDS?

Since less than 50% of the population currently own pen!ses, restricting their use won’t affect the majority of the country except in a good way, what with the reduction in rape, pedophilia and AIDS.

And while some might argue that pen!ses can also be used for entertainment or other harmless traditional uses, its clear that no one NEEDS to wield their pen!s, and all the horrific pen!s crimes that are committed daily indicate that only law enforcement and the military can be trusted with to use pen!ses safely.

You would agree with that, wouldn’t you?

Pless1foEngrish on March 30, 2014 at 2:09 PM

Very sad, something in his life went terribly terribly wrong.

Cindy Munford on March 30, 2014 at 1:20 PM

My guess would be drugs. legal and illegal. We are suffering a plague.

Harbingeing on March 30, 2014 at 2:19 PM

did he try to subdue the gunman at all before killing him? because that might shift it from self-defense to murder

nonpartisan on March 30, 2014 at 12:21 PM

No, dipstick, it wouldn’t. It – legally speaking – wouldn’t make any difference whatsoever. Crap, it’s like you’re not even trying anymore.

GWB on March 30, 2014 at 2:23 PM

no, it’s a legit legal question
nonpartisan on March 30, 2014 at 12:35 PM

It took them over 10 years to figure out who killed all those people in the fast food store on the northwest side of Chicagoland.

If they have guns, you might be OK, but it’s as they are lining you up against the wall that you should be thinking “are my premiums paid up??”

WryTrvllr on March 30, 2014 at 2:27 PM

The legal standard is what a reasonable person considers life threatening.

NotCoach on March 30, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Which is why nonpartisan doesn’t grasp this at all……

GWB on March 30, 2014 at 2:29 PM

Oops, forgot to mention the perp made them all get in the walk-in first.

WryTrvllr on March 30, 2014 at 2:30 PM

I don’t care if the story is two months old, its still good news!!

Khun Joe on March 30, 2014 at 2:32 PM

maybe the shooter did act in self-defense, but jazz’s article certainly didn’t make it seem like he was in any actual danger

nonpartisan on March 30, 2014 at 12:35 PM

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Alright, let’s go back, and have a looksie . . . . .
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. . . . . it’s still not clear why Kevin Mclaughlin went into the Dollar General in Orrville, Alabama last week . . . . .

He began shouting and waving a gun around, herding customers and an employee into a back room. Things were looking bad, but that’s when he ran into Marlo Ellis.

Jazz Shaw on March 30, 2014 at 11:01 AM

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Okay . . . . . what detail is missing from this story, that leaves you in doubt about the legitimacy of the claim that Kevin Mclaughlin represented a REAL threat to the lives of all other persons in the store?

listens2glenn on March 30, 2014 at 2:55 PM

Question:

What would Jesus carry?

Think on that this wonderful beautiful day.

I’m upbeat after reading stories like this where good people are standing up for themselves and protecting the innocent as God calls up to do.

The story of people figting against the dumbing down Common Core are encouraging too.

I’m pulling for Rand Paul because as a Kirk conservative, I know that Christianity will thrive once we get the government off our backs and start recognizing secularism, environmentalism, and these other God-less religions as what they are: true religions with sets of belief that should not be pushed by the government.

On a level playing field, Jesus kicks a**.

KirknBurker on March 30, 2014 at 2:59 PM

I very much doubt that “nonpartisan” has any actual legal education. If he did, he would know that brandishing a deadly weapon (ie, waving a handgun around in the air) is more than enough to provide legal justification for a reasonable person to conclude that their life, or the lives of others, is at risk, which allows the use of deadly force in self defense. After all, there is no requirement in the law that the gun actually be pointed at you and the trigger pulled before you are allowed to defend yourself.

As someone else pointed out, look at the standards that apply to police – they are allowed to drop someone just for holding a knife and refusing orders to let it go.

In answer to non-partisans rather silly statement, yes, we CAN go around shooting anyone who waves a gun in the air and claim self defense. Although it won’t be very long before everyone gets the word that waving a gun around in the air ain’t a good idea, and then it will become a very rare thing.

Tom Servo on March 30, 2014 at 3:06 PM

did he try to subdue the gunman at all before killing him?

nonpartisan on March 30, 2014 at 12:21 PM

Thus always to liberals

WryTrvllr on March 30, 2014 at 3:39 PM

I have no problem with the guy defending himself and the others in the store. I think if you are being ordered into a small confined space by a man with a gun, you have VERY reasonable grounds to fear for your safety. However:

This seems to be old news. It happened two months ago, didn’t it? I also wonder if anyone knows how the charges of rape are going against the shooter( hearing was set for sometime in February) and if those had any tie in to the guy coming into the store. I don’t know enough about the charges to have an opinion on their strength. I just know the more gun shy and liberal websites are making a big deal of his having been charged and not having his license to carry revoked.

There seems to be a lot more to this story.

OBQuiet on March 30, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Question:

What would Jesus carry?

KirknBurker on March 30, 2014 at 2:59 PM

I don’t believe Jesus would carry.

But, given that he could work any miracle that he wanted to…

I’d say he would always have the appropriate weapon for the situation.

trigon on March 30, 2014 at 3:52 PM

Question:

What would Jesus carry?

KirknBurker on March 30, 2014 at 2:59 PM

I don’t believe Jesus would carry.

But, given that he could work any miracle that he wanted to…

I’d say he would always have the appropriate weapon for the situation.

trigon on March 30, 2014 at 3:52 PM

The ‘turn into a pillar of salt’ beam weapon was to die for.

slickwillie2001 on March 30, 2014 at 4:18 PM

I can’t just go around shooting anyone waiving a gun in the air and claim self-defense

nonpartisan on March 30, 2014 at 12:35 PM

A Harvard education is a terrible thing to waste.

Chuck Schick on March 30, 2014 at 4:28 PM

A Harvard education is a terrible thing to waste.

Chuck Schick on March 30, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Harvard School of Animal Husbandry, in West Kentucky?

slickwillie2001 on March 30, 2014 at 4:48 PM

I can’t just go around shooting anyone waiving a gun in the air and claim self-defense

nonpartisan on March 30, 2014 at 12:35 PM

For real? You going to wait until it’s pointed at you and he’s a split second from pulling the trigger?

So.. you’re probably one of those people who thinks Hans Solo was the last to fire.

JellyToast on March 30, 2014 at 4:49 PM

O/T…..Sweet Home Alabama……our shed is in Alabama and went there yesterday and today. Matter of fact: just got back. Know Selma well and two rough places to get scars from drinking at bars with gravel parking lots are in Pell City and Bessemer City. Trust me, I know as I got shanked at a bar In Pell City called Friends back in the ’70s. Never hit on the barmaid with her husband sitting across the bar. Hey, I had no clue.

Don’t live in Alabama, but we own two homes there and can tell you……one robs a Dollar General to buy beer and a mothers day card the size of a 4′ x 8′ sheet of plywood from the Piggly Wiggly just down the street.

Run over to Wal-Mart in Clanton on a Saturday…….take your camera. Chuckle.

Sorry about the O/T….just adding a little local flavor to the story.

HonestLib on March 30, 2014 at 4:54 PM

Question:

What would Jesus carry?

KirknBurker on March 30, 2014 at 2:59 PM

A 1911A1 in .45ACP, of course.

Why do you think John Browning is a saint?

;-)

Solaratov on March 30, 2014 at 4:55 PM

HonestLib on March 30, 2014 at 4:54 PM

Insert old joke here——> Q. How do you know the toothbrush was invented in Alabama? A. If it was invented anywhere else, it would have been called a teethbrush.

Bmore on March 30, 2014 at 5:52 PM

Feel good story of the day

neyney on March 30, 2014 at 7:06 PM

I can’t just go around shooting anyone waiving a gun in the air and claim self-defense

nonpartisan on March 30, 2014 at 12:35 PM

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For real? You going to wait until it’s pointed at you and he’s a split second from pulling the trigger?

So.. you’re probably one of those people who thinks Hans Solo was the last to fire.

JellyToast on March 30, 2014 at 4:49 PM

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. . . : )

listens2glenn on March 30, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Shot dead inside Dollar General? Life sure is cheap!

OxyCon on March 30, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Someone please email this story to that arrogant self righteous Brit -EX-cnn Progtard Poops Morgan before he gets on the plane to go home to his socialist utopia London-
And tell him THIS is why he is unemployed.

FlaMurph on March 30, 2014 at 10:16 PM

I can’t just go around shooting anyone waiving a gun in the air and claim self-defense

nonpartisan on March 30, 2014 at 12:35 PM

I certainly hope that in a life-or-death moment of my own against perp like this, you’re not the one who holds the decision on what the outcome will be.

Ricard on March 30, 2014 at 10:42 PM

A 1911A1 in .45ACP, of course.

Why do you think John Browning is a saint?

;-)

Solaratov on March 30, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Perfection. No salt required.

WryTrvllr on March 31, 2014 at 1:07 AM

no, it’s a legit legal question

I can’t just go around shooting anyone waiving a gun in the air and claim self-defense

I would have to prove that I truly thought my life was in actual danger

maybe the shooter did act in self-defense, but jazz’s article certainly didn’t make it seem like he was in any actual danger

nonpartisan on March 30, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Ok, lets try reading this again.

Guy comes in… no problem. Waves a gun around… ok? Probably not, but lets pretend “ok”.

Starts herding people up and keeping them in a back room against their will…. and still no problem from you? How does that story end in your book?

You don’t have to round everyone up to open the registers and run off; that’s the part where this quits being a robbery and starts being something darker; which is what law enforcement knows, and you clearly
don’t.

What did you think? He just wanted a birthday party, and thought armed kidnapping of strangers was how you had a party?

How many of the unarmed innocents does a gunman have to execute before you’ll accept someone stopping him by shooting him?

Or will you ever accept that?

did he try to subdue the gunman at all before killing him? because that might shift it from self-defense to murder

nonpartisan on March 30, 2014 at 12:21 PM

Sorry, AFTER the gunman rounds up and executes your friends or family, do you drop your gun to try to wrestle him down civilly so you don’t get charged with murder? You’re still not happy I suspect… as you’ll never be happy with a criminal stopped by anyone but police; regardless who dies in the process.

How many innocent people need to die before a situation like this makes you happy? Would 3 or 4 dead sacrificed to gun control lunacy sate your inherent bloodlust?

I have to think you’re a parody account, and not a real liberal. Otherwise your willingness to let innocent people die so you can win an argument doesn’t seem a healthy attitude.

gekkobear on March 31, 2014 at 2:26 AM

Story is two months old, yet so many of us never heard or read about it. Seeing as gun control has been in the news quite a bit, I would think this would be a national story. Did I just miss it?

bridgetown on March 31, 2014 at 8:24 AM

If a kindergartener didn’t get shot by a someone the media thinks they portray as a conservative, then the MSM isn’t interested.

For folks in NY, Chicago, and California who run the big MSM corporations, nobody important lives in Alabama anyway.

s1im on March 31, 2014 at 8:47 AM

A Harvard education is a terrible thing to waste waist.

Chuck Schick on March 30, 2014 at 4:28 PM

Fixed it to fit nonpartisan’s spelling. ;)

GWB on March 31, 2014 at 9:28 AM

Saw a cool bumper sticker this weekend (maybe old to some of you):
“Gun control is using two hands.”

Christian Conservative on March 31, 2014 at 9:54 AM

Nonpartisan is a subject, not a citizen.

Deckard BR on March 31, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Per nonpartisan, I’m supposed to “try to subdue” someone before I can use a handgun. I’m disabled, and while I can walk without assistance, I have very little upper-body strength and limited joint mobility (especially in my neck). In a hand-to-hand situation, I would most likely be quickly incapacitated and immobilized (and probably killed) by anyone junior-high age or older. However, I can handle and shoot 9mm and .38 just fine, thank you very much.
Now, if there’s a bad guy threatening my life, my family or others, and I let bad guy get within arm’s reach, I’ve lost any advantage. If I put myself in a grappling hand-to-hand situation, I’ve lost. If bad guy is waving a gun and can train it on me in less than a second, I’ve lost. My only advantages are distance and/or surprise. If I give those up I’ve lost, and I’m useless to myself and others.
In the end I agree with the old saying: “God created man, Sam Colt made them equal.” Obviously I have a perspective different from nonpartisan’s, but I don’t expect him/her to try to understand mine.

Marcola on March 31, 2014 at 12:20 PM

“Not a lot more to say on this one…”

Correct. It’s nice and tidy.

Tsar of Earth on March 31, 2014 at 12:22 PM

Sorry, AFTER the gunman rounds up and executes your friends or family, do you drop your gun to try to wrestle him down civilly so you don’t get charged with murder? You’re still not happy I suspect… as you’ll never be happy with a criminal stopped by anyone but police; regardless who dies in the process.

gekkobear on March 31, 2014 at 2:26 AM

Correction: even if the police stop the person, nonpartisan, like his Barack Obama, will start screaming that they’re racists who acted stupidly.

What one has to realize is that nonpartisan is on the side of the criminals. That is because the Obama Party is the party of criminals, endorsed by criminals, and does everything in its power to support criminals.

northdallasthirty on March 31, 2014 at 12:34 PM

One more time dear friends … carry covertly, and if the need arises remember these points of practicality:
The fastest gun in a fight is the one ALREADY IN YOUR HAND.

Shoot FIRST
Shoot STRAIGHT
Shoot FAST
Shoot LAST
Got that np?
Well, think about it anyway.

BTW sainthood to: John Moses Browning

Missilengr on March 31, 2014 at 2:55 PM

I can’t just go around shooting anyone waiving [sic, per OldNuke, above] a gun in the air and claim self-defense

nonpartisan on March 30, 2014 at 12:35 PM

Wrong. Under Alabama law, you could have, even if that had been the sole significant act contributing to a reasonable belief on your part that Mclaughlin was engaging in, or about to engage in certain criminal acts employing the imminent use of unlawful physical force against you or others.

But it wasn’t the sole factor. Mclaughlin also herded all the people who were present at gunpoint into an enclosed area within the facility!

By having committed BOTH acts — pulling and waving a gun around, AND, thereafter, having specifically herded the people inside into a separate enclosed area, obviously to gain further illicit control over them, Mclaughlin clearly put all of those present in reasonable fear that he was committing, or about to commit, one or more of several distinct felonies under Alabama law, including (but probably not limited to) kidnapping, robbery, burglary, menacing, aggravated assault, and/or possibly some form of homicide.

Take just one of them as an example — kidnapping. Mclaughlin actions in herding the patrons into a back room in a threatening manner (gun drawn) constituted a kidnapping. Second degree kidnapping in Alabama merely consists in the unlawful abduction of a person (or persons) in this case, obviously coupled with the intent or threat to use deadly force – i.e., he used a gun in a threatening manner to herd the people into a side room, obviously in an effort to exert blatantly unlawful control over them.

It was also arguably first degree kidnapping because it is pretty obvious Mclaughlin did so with intent to terrorize them all.

Among several possible interpretations Ellis could have arrived at, was that at that moment Mclaughlin was committing or about to commit a kidnapping in any degree and that he (Ellis) was justified in drawing his weapon and using it to defend himself or others, including employing the use of deadly force. Alabama statutory law expressly provides that under those circumstances, the use of deadly force is fully justified.

Obviously, you are not a lawyer. Nor are you any form of credible legal analyst. If you were, you would have, at a minimum, noted the significant degree of protection that the Alabama statutes afford to individuals who act to protect themselves or others, specifically including using deadly force in response to anyone “committing or about to commit a kidnapping in any degree.”

See, Section 13A-3-23: USE OF FORCE IN DEFENSE OF A PERSON.

Sadly, you are merely an annoying and opinionated blowhard who is unwilling to even try to cobble together an informed point of view.

And, you do it repeatedly here at Hot Air.

Trochilus on March 31, 2014 at 4:51 PM

What’s important to note is that citizens are doing this job themselves, and the massive wave of SWAT teams that are springing up around the country really don’t help much.

What are all these SWAT teams for again?

Another Libertarian on March 31, 2014 at 8:09 PM

What’s important to note is that citizens are doing this job themselves, and the massive wave of SWAT teams that are springing up around the country really don’t help much.

What are all these SWAT teams for again?

Another Libertarian on March 31, 2014 at 8:09 PM

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To keep law-abiding citizens safe under control.

listens2glenn on April 1, 2014 at 3:37 PM

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