Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on March 30, 2014 by Allahpundit

The Russian troops who are holding Crimea won’t be sent into Ukraine, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov says. “We have absolutely no intention of — or interest in — crossing Ukraine’s borders,” Lavrov told a Russian TV station Saturday, according to a translation by .

The comments from Moscow come after a phone call from Russian President Vladimir Putin to President Obama Friday. The two leaders discussed possible diplomatic solutions to the crisis, which has sparked Western sanctions. And they agreed that Lavrov and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry should meet “to discuss next steps,” as Friday…

On Friday, U.S. officials said that Russia has massed from 35,000 to 40,000 troops near the border with Ukraine, .

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One of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s closest ex-advisers has claimed that the ex-KGB agent ultimately wants to reclaim Finland for Russia.

Andrej Illiaronov, Putin’s economic adviser between 2000 and 2005 and now senior member of the Cato Institute think tank, said that “parts of Georgia, Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltic States and Finland are states where Putin claims to have ownership.”

“Putin’s view is that he protects what belongs to him and his predecessors,” he said.

When asked if Putin wishes to return to the Russia of the last tsar, Nicholas II, Illiaronov said: “Yes, if it becomes possible.”

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Russia’s ambassador to the United States this morning had a sharp retort when asked about President Obama’s comments that Russia is a “regional power acting out of weakness.”

“If you consider Russia ‘a regional power,’” he said, “look at our region — it is from Europe to Asia.” President Vladimir Putin has talked up a Eurasioan Union as his anti-Western alternative to the European Union, and close advisers to Putin believe in a certain Eurasian ideology.

When ABC’s George Stephanopoulos asked the ambassador whether Russia would consider pulling back from Crimea as a condition of a diplomatic solution, he wasn’t taken too seriously either: “What kind of from Crimea are you talking about?” Ambassador Kislyak said. “We are talking about territory of Russian Federation [sic].”

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Russia threatened several Eastern European and Central Asian states with retaliation if they voted in favor of a United Nations General Assembly resolution this week declaring invalid Crimea’s referendum on seceding from Ukraine, U.N. diplomats said…

According to interviews with U.N. diplomats, most of whom preferred to speak on condition of anonymity for fear of angering Moscow, the targets of Russian threats included Moldova, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan as well as a number of African countries.

A spokesman for Russia’s Mission to the U.N. denied that Moscow threatened any country with retaliation if it supported the resolution, saying: “We never threaten anyone. We just explain the situation.”

According to the diplomats, the Russian threats were not specific. But they said it was clear to the recipients of the warnings not to support the resolution that retaliatory measures could include steps such as expelling migrant workers from Russia, halting natural gas supplies or banning certain imports to Russia to cause economic harm.

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Rest assured that Putin’s bare-chested romps do not include navel-gazing over what the West’s actions imply about its intent. He fully understood that NATO was unwilling to extend to these former Soviet satellites its security guarantee — viz., that an attack on any NATO country is considered an attack on all NATO countries that must be repelled as such. Coupled with Europe’s willingness — actually, anxiousness — to increase economic intercourse with and energy dependence on Russia even after the Georgian invasion, Putin grasped that he had a green light to indulge his revanchist ambitions…

Russia is on the march because it was treated like a friend while it acted like an enemy. As usual, the bipartisan transnational-progressive clerisy convinced itself that our adversaries, who thrive on instability, have an abiding interest in international stability — that they are best seen as trusted “partners” in the pursuit of American objectives rather than aggressors pursuing their own very different objectives.

As Putin menaces Ukraine, Obama prattles about international law. Even if this president’s sudden interest in faithful adherence to law could be taken seriously, the international arena is not a “community” sharing common legal norms and enforcement mechanisms. Aggressors are not presumed innocent such that we must sit idle until their intent can be proved beyond a reasonable doubt. They are presumed hostile until they prove otherwise.

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[D]id it really take Russia’s invasion of Crimea for the White House to finally realize that Putin is an authoritarian hegemon who has long been moving away from Europe and building Russia’s domination of its “near abroad?” McFaul tells us that “Mr. Putin’s own thinking has changed over time,” and that, with Crimea, “Mr. Putin has made a strategic pivot.” But the Russian president has not veered from the course he set out on as far back as 1999, when as prime minister he made the decision to unleash a crippling war on the republic of Chechnya…

[B]y failing to recognize Moscow’s larger regional aims, the West may be underestimating the Kremlin’s readiness to take advantage of a situation that has offered new opportunities to exert its influence, and that has played well at home. In recent weeks, Putin’s inner circle of siloviki from his hometown of St. Petersburg, several of whom have been targeted by the new US sanctions imposed this month, have closed ranks around their leader. And polls show that, among the Russian population at large, Putin’s popularity is at a new high. (Russians typically rally around their leader when their military forces are deployed, as they did in the past during the conflicts with Chechnya and Georgia.)…

During a news conference early this week in Brussels, Obama responded to those who claim he has been naïve about Putin by dismissing Russia as a “regional power” that poses no risk to the security of the United States. But this assessment seems more like a justification for allowing the Kremlin to call the shots than a true statement of reality. A Russian demarche into eastern Ukraine, and possibly Moldova, would threaten the security of all the newly independent states of Europe and, by implication, that of the US as well.

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During his Brussels speech this week, Obama also declared that Russia leads “no bloc of nations, no global ideology.” This is true, up to a point: Russia’s “ideology” isn’t well-defined or clear. But the U.S. president was wrong to imply that the Russian president’s rhetoric, and his annexation of Crimea, has no wider echo. Of course there were the predictable supporters of Russia in the United Nations: Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, North Korea. More interesting are his new European friends. Nigel Farage, the leader of the United Kingdom Independence Party (UKIP) — an anti-European and anti-immigrant party that is gaining momentum in Britain — declared last week that the European Union has “blood on its hands” for negotiating a free-trade agreement in Ukraine. Marine Le Pen, leader of the French far-right National Front, has also said she prefers France to “lean toward Russia” rather than “submit to the United States.” Jobbik, Hungary’s far-right party, sent a representative to the Crimean referendum and declared it “exemplary.” These are all minority parties, but they are all poised to make gains in European elections this spring.

Russia’s ideology may be mishmash: the old Soviet critique of hypocritical “bourgeois democracy,” plus some anti-Europeanism, some anti-globalism and a homophobic twist for contemporary appeal. But let’s not assume that competition between ideas is absurd and old-fashioned. And let’s not pretend that ideologies don’t matter, because even if we’d prefer otherwise, they do.

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McFaul, an NBC News analyst who served as Obama’s ambassador to Moscow until last month, said the Russians are now in effect saying, “OK, Crimea’s done. We’ve taken that. Now let’s start negotiating about the Ukrainian constitution. Let’s start negotiating about the autonomy of places like Donetsk (in eastern Ukraine).’ As President Kennedy said very famously during the Berlin crisis, he was not going to negotiate about the freedom of Berlin under the guise of ‘what’s mine is mine, and what’s yours is negotiable.’ This feels a little but like that: they (the Russians) are changing the subject to talk about what they want, not what we want to talk about.”

Another question is the future of the separatist Transdniestria region of Moldova, populated largely by Russian speakers. Putin is going to make Moldova “an issue that we’re going to have to now negotiate. And we’re going to negotiate in, I think, a weak position given where he is right now.”

McFaul added “there’s no doubt in my mind that if Russia goes into eastern Ukraine some Ukrainians will fight in a guerrilla struggle.”

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How can the U.S. add muscle in the present Ukraine crisis?

The boldest and riskiest course would be to dispatch 50 or 60 of the incredibly potent F-22s to Poland plus Patriot batteries and appropriate ground support and protection. Russian generals and even Putin surely know that the F-22s could smash the far inferior Russian air force and then punish Russian armies invading eastern Ukraine or elsewhere in the region.

There’s no sense at all in making this move unless Obama unambiguously resolves to use the F-22s. The worst thing to do is bluff. Nor would the dangers end there even if Obama were not bluffing; Putin might think he was bluffing anyway and start a war. With all these complications and risks, the Obama team still should give this option a serious look—and let Russia and our NATO partners know this tough course is under serious consideration. Obama has sent a few F-15’s and F-16’s to Eastern Europe, some military aid to Ukraine and other states. But everyone knows this is tokenism.

Another plausible and perhaps less risky measure: help prepare Ukrainians for guerrilla war against an invading Russian force. Pound for pound in conventional war, the Ukrainian forces are no match whatsoever for the Russians. But irregular Ukrainian troops armed with first-class rifles, mortars, and explosive devices would do Russian troops great damage. Russians know this. They have surely not forgotten the horrors fighting guerrillas in Afghanistan.

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According to Western officers and several private specialists, the forces gathered in Russia’s Western Military District are capable of invading Ukraine’s easternmost cities, like Donetsk and Dnipropetrovsk. They would probably start off by sending in special forces to recruit local allies, then mount a wave of cyber-attacks to degrade or spoof the Ukraine military’s warning and communication networks, followed by a blitzkrieg attack by tanks, paratroopers, and so forth.

But occupying those towns for any length of time is another matter. Logistics—refurbishing troops with a line of supplies—were always the Russian army’s weak point, even in the Cold War heyday; that’s still the case. Then there’s the army itself. The special forces and paratroopers are professional, but the rest of the army consists of draftees, serving one-year terms that many of them spend drunk and disorderly. If they face any resistance, whether from the Ukrainian army (a ragtag force itself) or “irregulars” (homegrown insurgents) or outside agents (a squad or two of Delta Force troops), the Russian soldiers could find themselves seriously bogged down.

Politically, Putin would find himself on very shaky ground. Already, he mustered only 10 other countries—the likes of Belarus, Cuba, North Korea, Nicaragua, Sudan, and Syria—to oppose a U.N. resolution condemning the annexation of Crimea. If he invades Ukraine, a sovereign nation with a United Nations seat, his isolation will widen and deepen politically, diplomatically, and economically.

If he crosses that line, he will also do more than anyone ever has to rouse the European nations out of their post-Cold War stupor.

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Putin’s seizure of Crimea may have provided him with the opportunity to beat his chest before adoring Russian crowds, but it will eventually undermine Russian security.

Ukraine is and will remain too weak to be a threat. And on its own, no country in Russia’s “near abroad” can pose a threat. Even taken together, the non-Russians will be weaker than Russia. But Putin’s land grab will make all of them inclined to regard Russia as a potentially land-grabbing foe and to promote their own security independently of Russia and outside of any Russian-led blocs or unions. Expect the Central Asians and Azerbaijanis to turn increasingly to China and Turkey, and the Georgians, Moldovans, Ukrainians, and even the Belarusians to head for the West. Also expect the Russian Federation’s non-Russian autonomous republics and regions to press for greater autonomy from Moscow…

Seen in this light, annexing Crimea has to be one of Putin’s worst strategic blunders. Had the province become “independent,” there would still have been a theoretical possibility of finding some accommodation with Kiev. After annexation, any dialogue with the Ukrainian government — and, thus, any resolution of the Russo-Ukrainian conflict — becomes significantly more difficult. It’s perfectly possible that Putin wants the conflict to remain unresolved, on the assumption that it will undermine Ukraine. The problem is that an unresolved conflict will also undermine Russia.

As Ukraine and Russia’s other non-Russian neighbors are compelled by Moscow’s aggression to enhance their security, Russia may soon face a nightmare of its own creation — non-Russian encirclement.

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Riiiiight. Russia has no interest in crossing Ukraine’s borders just like the USA FedGov has no interest in monetizing debt. Uh huh./

gryphon202 on March 30, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Rooshians. Solaratov needs to be here.

Lanceman on March 30, 2014 at 8:08 PM

If you like your political borders, you can keep your political borders.

Murphy9 on March 30, 2014 at 8:11 PM

The comments from Moscow come after a phone call from Russian President Vladimir Putin to President Obama Friday. The two leaders discussed possible diplomatic solutions to the crisis
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The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
March 28, 2014

Readout of the President’s Call with President Putin

President Putin called President Obama today to discuss the U.S. proposal for a diplomatic resolution to the crisis in Ukraine, which Secretary Kerry had again presented to Foreign Minister Lavrov at the meeting at the Hague earlier this week, and which we developed following U.S. consultations with our Ukrainian and European partners. President Obama suggested that Russia put a concrete response in writing and the presidents agreed that Kerry and Lavrov would meet to discuss next steps.

President Obama noted that the Ukrainian government continues to take a restrained and de-escalatory approach to the crisis and is moving ahead with constitutional reform and democratic elections, and urged Russia to support this process and avoid further provocations, including the buildup of forces on its border with Ukraine.

President Obama underscored to President Putin that the United States continues to support a diplomatic path in close consultation with the Government of Ukraine and in support of the Ukrainian people with the aim of de-escalation of the crisis. President Obama made clear that this remains possible only if Russia pulls back its troops and does not take any steps to further violate Ukraine’s territorial integrity and sovereignty. President Obama reiterated that the United States has strongly opposed the actions that Russia has already taken to violate Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.
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Kremlin view:Telephone conversation with US President Barack Obama http://eng.news.kremlin.ru/news/6936
Telephone conversation with US President Barack Obama

March 29, 2014, 00:35

Tags: foreign policy, United States
Vladimir Putin had a telephone conversation with President of the United States of America Barack Obama.
The two leaders continued exchanging views on the crisis in Ukraine.
Vladimir Putin drew Barack Obama’s attention to continued rampage of extremists who are committing acts of intimidation towards peaceful residents, government authorities and law enforcement agencies in various regions and in Kiev with impunity.
In light of this, the President of Russia suggested examining possible steps the global community can take to help stabilise the situation. The two presidents agreed that specific parameters for this joint work will be discussed by the Russian and US foreign ministers in the near future.
Vladimir Putin also pointed out that Transnistria is essentially experiencing a blockade, which significantly complicate the living conditions for the region’s residents, impeding their movement and normal trade and economic activities. He stressed that Russia stands for the fair and comprehensive settlement of the Transnistria conflict and hopes for effective work in the existing 5+2 negotiation format.

March 29, 2014, 00:35

http://eng.news.kremlin.ru/news/6936

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 8:11 PM

Rest assured that Putin’s bare-chested romps do not include navel-gazing over what the West’s actions imply about its intent.

That is not hetero-normative rhetoric!

Murphy9 on March 30, 2014 at 8:13 PM

More interesting are his new European friends.

Really?
What about Pooty’s American friends, like the boot-lickers at an alleged “conservative” site?

corona79 on March 30, 2014 at 8:15 PM

Obviously we have not hit that reset button nearly enough. Perhaps we should try a reboot.

Johnny Alamo on March 30, 2014 at 8:16 PM

Russia is on the march because it was treated like a friend while it acted like an enemy.

Right, expanding NATO up to their border, bombing their historic ally Serbia, and encouraging the overthrow of an elected pro-Russian government in their largest neighbor is treating them “like a friend”.

Jon0815 on March 30, 2014 at 8:17 PM

One of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s closest ex-advisers has claimed that the ex-KGB agent ultimately wants to reclaim Finland for Russia.
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Vladimir Putin ‘wants to regain Finland’ for Russia, former adviser says http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vladimir-putin-wants-to-regain-finland-for-russia-adviser-says-9224273.html

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 8:17 PM

phone call from Russian President Vladimir Putin to President Obama Friday.
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The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
March 28, 2014

Readout of the President’s Call with President Putin

President Putin called President Obama today to discuss the U.S. proposal for a diplomatic resolution to the crisis in Ukraine, which Secretary Kerry had again presented to Foreign Minister Lavrov at the meeting at the Hague earlier this week, and which we developed following U.S. consultations with our Ukrainian and European partners. President Obama suggested that Russia put a concrete response in writing and the presidents agreed that Kerry and Lavrov would meet to discuss next steps.

President Obama noted that the Ukrainian government continues to take a restrained and de-escalatory approach to the crisis and is moving ahead with constitutional reform and democratic elections, and urged Russia to support this process and avoid further provocations, including the buildup of forces on its border with Ukraine.

President Obama underscored to President Putin that the United States continues to support a diplomatic path in close consultation with the Government of Ukraine and in support of the Ukrainian people with the aim of de-escalation of the crisis. President Obama made clear that this remains possible only if Russia pulls back its troops and does not take any steps to further violate Ukraine’s territorial integrity and sovereignty. President Obama reiterated that the United States has strongly opposed the actions that Russia has already taken to violate Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.
We’re updating the White House privacy policy, which will go into effect on April 18. Learn more.

http://m.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/03/28/readout-president-s-call-president-putin

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 8:19 PM

phone call from Russian President Vladimir Putin to President Obama Friday.
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Jill Dougherty ‏@jillrussia 18h
Kremlin view:Telephone conversation with US President Barack Obama http://eng.news.kremlin.ru/news/6936
Telephone conversation with US President Barack Obama
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March 29, 2014, 00:35

Tags: foreign policy, United States
Vladimir Putin had a telephone conversation with President of the United States of America Barack Obama.

The two leaders continued exchanging views on the crisis in Ukraine.
Vladimir Putin drew Barack Obama’s attention to continued rampage of extremists who are committing acts of intimidation towards peaceful residents, government authorities and law enforcement agencies in various regions and in Kiev with impunity.

In light of this, the President of Russia suggested examining possible steps the global community can take to help stabilise the situation. The two presidents agreed that specific parameters for this joint work will be discussed by the Russian and US foreign ministers in the near future.
Vladimir Putin also pointed out that Transnistria is essentially experiencing a blockade, which significantly complicate the living conditions for the region’s residents, impeding their movement and normal trade and economic activities. He stressed that Russia stands for the fair and comprehensive settlement of the Transnistria conflict and hopes for effective work in the existing 5+2 negotiation format.

March 29, 2014, 00:35

http://eng.news.kremlin.ru/news/6936

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Evenin’.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 30, 2014 at 8:22 PM

Obviously we have not hit that reset button nearly enough. Perhaps we should try a reboot.

Johnny Alamo on March 30, 2014 at 8:16 PM

Johnny Alamo, WTF? I know onna them!

Lanceman on March 30, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Russia threatened several Eastern European and Central Asian states with retaliation if they voted in favor of a United Nations General Assembly resolution this week declaring invalid Crimea’s referendum on seceding from Ukraine, U.N. diplomats said…
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canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 8:24 PM

The President of the United States appears to be delusional. . .
. . .or dishonest. It’s difficult to tell the two behaviors apart.

And no one seems to care.

Joseph OHenry on March 30, 2014 at 8:24 PM

Good evening Twerp and everybody. I hate daylight savings. I’m an early person. By 7 pm I’m ready to settle down and watch tv not go outside. I don’t need it to be light until 10 pm. It’s in the morning I want daylight.

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Russia just lopped off a part of a country that didn’t do what Russia wanted it to do, and the West has demonstrated that it will do nothing of importance about it.
That would tend to warn Russia’s neighbors away from the West and push them into accommodating Russia so that the same thing doesn’t happen to them.

Count to 10 on March 30, 2014 at 8:25 PM

Evenin’.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 30, 2014 at 8:22 PM

ALT:Good Eve’n Lone *Star:)

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 8:26 PM

President Obama’s comments that Russia is a “regional power acting out of weakness.”

Maybe someone should tell the moron CIC what ICBM stands for. Hint: it’s not Intra Regional Ballistic Missile.

VorDaj on March 30, 2014 at 8:26 PM

The President of the United States appears to be delusional. . .
. . .or dishonest. It’s difficult to tell the two behaviors apart.

And no one seems to care.

Joseph OHenry on March 30, 2014 at 8:24 PM

He’s dishonest about being delusional.

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Evenin’.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 30, 2014 at 8:22 PM

Hey, read your reply to my post this morning at 0330 and then remembered you ain’t originally from Texas. Now, I understand….I’m just a bit slow.

HonestLib on March 30, 2014 at 8:27 PM

Another question is the future of the separatist Transdniestria region of Moldova,
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canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 8:27 PM

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 8:19 PM

These idiots just can’t learn to keep their mouths shut.

Better to say nothing than look like an idiot every time they do something like this.

Barred on March 30, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Heckuva reset, Barry.

In important news, baseball’s back.

rbj on March 30, 2014 at 8:28 PM

The President of the United States appears to be delusional. . .
. . .or dishonest. It’s difficult to tell the two behaviors apart.

And no one seems to care.

Joseph OHenry on March 30, 2014 at 8:24 PM

He’s dishonest about being delusional.

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 8:26 PM

Hey. I warned countless people what would happen if they voted for him. Twice.

Lanceman on March 30, 2014 at 8:28 PM

HonestLib on March 30, 2014 at 8:27 PM

You ain’t even sort of slow. loL

annoyinglittletwerp on March 30, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Putin’s seizure of Crimea may have provided him with the opportunity to beat his chest before adoring Russian crowds, but it will eventually undermine Russian security.

Does anyone seriously believe that Putin could undermine Russian security even half as fast as Obama can undermine American security?

VorDaj on March 30, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Right, expanding NATO up to their border, bombing their historic ally Serbia, and encouraging the overthrow of an elected pro-Russian government in their largest neighbor is treating them “like a friend”.

Jon0815 on March 30, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Someone sell you the Brooklyn Bridge yet?

Count to 10 on March 30, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Hey. I warned countless people what would happen if they voted for him. Twice.

Lanceman on March 30, 2014 at 8:28 PM

I wonder how many people will claim now that they didn’t vote for him.

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 8:30 PM

MY WILDCATS ARE IN THE FINAL 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ConstantineXI on March 30, 2014 at 8:35 PM

MY WILDCATS ARE IN THE FINAL 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ConstantineXI on March 30, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Yay.

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 8:36 PM

ConstantineXI on March 30, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Tomorrow my Cubbies will get to lose their first game of the season. *sigh*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 30, 2014 at 8:39 PM

I know somone who follows the Cubs. I often wonder why. She lives in Quincy IL.

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 8:40 PM

yo gang

captnjoe on March 30, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Back from the sea again. I am totally out of the loop, and it looks like that is why my blood pressure dropped to normal. *Sigh back to reality :(

captnjoe on March 30, 2014 at 8:44 PM

sup.

Lanceman on March 30, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Yo captnjoe

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Howdy neighbors.

Hey, read on a different thread something about Amelia Island????

captnjoe on March 30, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Year of the Cat

Year of the WILDCATS!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqZc7ZQURMs

ConstantineXI on March 30, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Bet Pooty made O cook AND do the dishes at those G8s.

msupertas on March 30, 2014 at 8:46 PM

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 8:40 PM

I live in Rangerland.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 30, 2014 at 8:46 PM

I live in Rangerland.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 30, 2014 at 8:46 PM

I know where Quincy is. I don’t know anything else.

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 8:48 PM

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 8:19 PM

These idiots just can’t learn to keep their mouths shut.

Better to say nothing than look like an idiot every time they do something like this.

Barred on March 30, 2014 at 8:28 PM

Barred:Yup,…and NSCPress too,…..on everything Hopey:)

https://twitter.com/NSCPress

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 8:48 PM

You know, with all the work of the Emperor with no clothes is doing, we are really getting set up for a big fall in a year or two. Economic collapse and maybe good old wide spread war. This will all come down on the next potus, so maybe it will be ok when Shrillary gets elected. At least the media won’t be able to blame a conservative prez for all of the Emperors fubar’s.

captnjoe on March 30, 2014 at 8:48 PM

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/ukraine-protests-over-eu-agreement-delay/

Ukraine
2h
Secretary of State Kerry: Ukrainians have to decide on road ahead; it’s not up to the US to make decision but US can help create a climate for negotiations – @Reuters
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Russia
2h
Secretary of State John Kerry: We will not accept path forward where legitimate government of Ukraine not at table; Russian forces at border must pull back – @AP
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Russia
2h
Interfax: Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov: Moscow, Washington agreed to work with Ukraine government, people to overcome the crisis – @Reuters

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 8:49 PM

Alley Wildcats:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fFf0ClVLao

8 SEED IN THE FINAL FOUR!!!

ConstantineXI on March 30, 2014 at 8:51 PM

At least the media won’t be able to blame a conservative prez for all of the Emperors fubar’s.

captnjoe on March 30, 2014 at 8:48 PM

You underestimate them. Newt Gingrich thinks in a year 90 percent of us will be dead.

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 8:51 PM

During his Brussels speech this week, Obama also declared that Russia leads “no bloc of nations, no global ideology.”

Dear Mr. Fantasy

Dear Mister Fantasy play us a tune
Something to make us all happy
Do anything take us out of this gloom
Sing a song, play guitar, make it snappy
You are the one who can make us all laugh

kcewa on March 30, 2014 at 8:52 PM

You underestimate them. Newt Gingrich thinks in a year 90 percent of us will be dead.

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 8:51 PM

I would prefer to be one of them.

Lanceman on March 30, 2014 at 8:52 PM

8 SEED IN THE FINAL FOUR!!!

ConstantineXI on March 30, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Your young boys are growing up rather nicely!

kcewa on March 30, 2014 at 8:52 PM

https://twitter.com/US_EUCOM
U.S European Command ‏@US_EUCOM Mar 16

#DDay70 Voices. Better to fight for something than live for nothing. –George S. Patton pic.twitter.com/lacNhAP16j

https://twitter.com/US_EUCOM/status/445271600565219328/photo/1/large

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 8:53 PM

You underestimate them. Newt Gingrich thinks in a year 90 percent of us will be dead.

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 8:51 PM

If I am one of them dead ones, there will be at least 10 progressives going with me.

captnjoe on March 30, 2014 at 8:54 PM

I know where Quincy is. I don’t know anything else.

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 8:48 PM

‘RangerLand’ is home of the Texas Rangers.
Lubbock is around 6 hours fro Arlington Texas. Arlington is homebase for the Rangers.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 30, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Here are a few dissenting opinions for those who would like to be more informed about what is going on.

Nigel Farage Is Right: It Was the EU, Not Russia, Which Provoked the Ukraine Crisis

And here’s a lengthy interview I listened to last night that is very insightful. I don’t entirely agree with Paul Craig Roberts world-view but this is a lot closer to the truth than the propaganda the MSM has been disseminating, IMO. Considering that we may be headed for WWIII I think it is worth the time to listen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k11v8WOVT2U

FloatingRock on March 30, 2014 at 8:57 PM

‘RangerLand’ is home of the Texas Rangers.
Lubbock is around 6 hours fro Arlington Texas. Arlington is homebase for the Rangers.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 30, 2014 at 8:54 PM

I thought you were talking about Illinois. I also know someone in Grapevine TX.

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 8:58 PM

You underestimate them. Newt Gingrich thinks in a year 90 percent of us will be dead.

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 8:51 PM

crankyoldlady:0
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Alex Brown National Journal March 28, 2014
Newt Gingrich’s Plan to Save the World
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Within a year, nine out of 10 Americans could be dead. And whatever causes the national apocalypse—be it North Korean malice or the whims of the sun—the downfall will ultimately be our own fault.

That’s the fear of Newt Gingrich and other members of a high-profile coalition who are convinced that our fragile electrical grid could be wiped out at any moment.

heir concern? Electromagnetic pulses, the short bursts of energy—caused by anything from a nuclear blast to a solar flare—that can wreak havoc on electrical systems on a massive scale. And the coalition believes it’s coming soon.
(More….)
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http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2014/03/newt-gingrichs-plan-save-world/81529/?oref=d-skybox

http://www.defenseone.com/?oref=d-logo

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 8:58 PM

I always though Gingrich was at least sane.

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 8:59 PM

I always though Gingrich was at least sane.

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 8:59 PM

I think there must be some sort of toxic radiation or some slow disease that these politicians pick up in DC that eventually destroys their brains. Think for a minute about the old geezers like McLame, Reid, Pelosi, etc. They have all lost their minds.

On the other hand, 1 well placed EMP, and we are living a TV show for real.

captnjoe on March 30, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Here are a few dissenting opinions for those who would like to be more informed about what is going on.

FloatingRock on March 30, 2014 at 8:57 PM

FloatingRock: Speaking of different opinions:)
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***** Justice,…And Civil Rights**

Victoria Nuland’s Admits Washington Has Spent $5 Billion to “Subvert Ukraine”

Published on Feb 9, 2014
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American Conquest by Subversion: Victoria Nuland’s Admits Washington Has Spent $5 Billion to “Subvert Ukraine”
“After three visits to Ukraine in five weeks, Victoria Nuland explains that in the past two decades, the United States has spent five Billion dollars ($5,000,000,000) to subvert Ukraine, and assures her listeners that there are prominent businessmen and government officials who support the US project to tear Ukraine away from its historic relationship with Russia and into the US sphere of interest (via “Europe”).

Victoria Nuland is the wife of Robert Kagan, leader of the younger generation of “neo-cons”. After serving as Hillary Clinton’s spokesperson, she is now undersecretary of state for Europe and Eurasia.” Diana Johnstone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2fYcHLouXY

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 9:05 PM

On the other hand, 1 well placed EMP, and we are living a TV show for real.

captnjoe on March 30, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Oh yeah these things could happen but 90 percent?

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 9:07 PM

HeadsUp:….NorthKoreanGoon No-Fly/Shipping Zone Alert:

North and South Korea tensions
9m
North Korea declares a no-fly, no-sail zone in the Yellow Sea – @YonhapNews
read more on yonhapnews.co.kr
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http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2014/03/31/0200000000AEN20140331002400315.html?input=www.tweeter.com

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 9:07 PM

Oh yeah these things could happen but 90 percent?

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 9:07 PM

Breakdown of society. You’d better believe it. No law and order.

Lanceman on March 30, 2014 at 9:10 PM

North and South Korea tensions
50s
Yonhap: North Korea notifies South Korea that it will conduct firing off West Coast on Monday – @Reuters
end of alert

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Gingrich and pals: 9 out of 10 could be dead within a year from electromagnetic pulse wiping out the power and communications grid

Whether the sun, or a nuclear strike, Gingrich worries civilization would collapse if the grid goes down.

You’d have thought the panel would have expressed their concern a little sooner….

James Cameron and Charles H. Eglee, co-creators of “Dark Angel” a cyber-punk sci-fi series that premiered fall television season 2000 and ran for two seasons.

The show featured a post apocalyptic society created when the electric and communications grid goes down from…. an electromagnetic pulse.

Maybe Newt doesn’t watch television.

thatsafactjack on March 30, 2014 at 9:10 PM

Oh yeah these things could happen but 90 percent?

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 9:07 PM

Don’t forget this part:

Think for a minute about the old geezers like McLame, Reid, Pelosi, etc. They have all lost their minds.

There will be a lot of hungry free shiite army folks around, thats for sure.

captnjoe on March 30, 2014 at 9:11 PM

The fact is that civilization existed just fine before computers ran transportation, the grid, and military and civilian communications networks.

Worried about a pulse? Set up an “old school” backup for every system.

thatsafactjack on March 30, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Oh yeah these things could happen but 90 percent?

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 9:07 PM

crankyoldlady:Hmmmm,…does sound a wee bit high,
maybes the numbers only include, LiV’s
and ObamaZombieVoterBots!!(sarc):0

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Humans got along just fine before electricity was invented. However, we’ve forgotten how.

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 9:16 PM

That little hot mic message for Vlad through Medvedev is looking brilliant I tell ya, BRILLIANT!!!

Cindy Munford on March 30, 2014 at 9:17 PM

Someone sell you the Brooklyn Bridge yet?

Count to 10 on March 30, 2014 at 8:29 PM

Count to 10: Oh crap,…after Alaska, the Roooskies will want that too:)
(sarc)

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 9:18 PM

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 8:19 PM

These idiots just can’t learn to keep their mouths shut.

Better to say nothing than look like an idiot every time they do something like this.

Barred on March 30, 2014 at 8:28 PM

They don’t realize they are idiots….so used to getting applause for their continual shitty ideas from fellow travelers and the media. I know, redundant.

arnold ziffel on March 30, 2014 at 9:19 PM

American Conquest by Subversion: Victoria Nuland’s Admits Washington Has Spent $5 Billion to “Subvert Ukraine”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2fYcHLouXY

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Check it out, there is a Chevron logo behind her as she speaks. I guess now we know at least one of the corporate partners the governments of the European Union of Socialist States and the USSA are trying to start WWIII on behalf of. The EUSS, the USSA, Russia and China are all state-capitalists now, AKA fascist.

FloatingRock on March 30, 2014 at 9:21 PM

Worried about a pulse? Set up an “old school” backup for every system.

thatsafactjack on March 30, 2014 at 9:13 PM

I hope that includes your local power station, water district, grocery store, etc. Oh, what will you do when your car won’t start? Unless you own a 1970′s classic, it will be useless too, along with the farmers tractor. Anything with a chip will be useless. The Amish may be able to take over!

captnjoe on March 30, 2014 at 9:22 PM

Year of the Cat

Year of the WILDCATS!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqZc7ZQURMs

ConstantineXI on March 30, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Watch out for a Gator.

HonestLib on March 30, 2014 at 9:22 PM

That little hot mic message for Vlad through Medvedev is looking brilliant I tell ya, BRILLIANT!!!

Cindy Munford on March 30, 2014 at 9:17 PM

Cindy Munford:Lol,…hey did ya hear Yulia’s??:)
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Time to grab guns and kill damn Russians: Tymoshenko tape leak
Published on Mar 24, 2014
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia_mIaFqX-0

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 9:22 PM

Oh my. The Walking Dead. I’m not grumbling. That is all I’m going to say.

Brat on March 30, 2014 at 9:24 PM

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 9:16 PM

There’s no need to fear losing power plants. They operated very well without computers for quite some time, as did all utilities, and the military.

Over dependence on technology can be compensated for in all of our major systems.

We’d lose cell phone communications, but there are still landlines. We’d lose the internet, but there are still books and there would even still be radio and television. People would just dust off the old systems.

We wouldn’t be plunged into the stone age. We’d be plunged into the 10960′s and 1970′s…and think of all the people who would suddenly be employed running things instead of computers.

It would be prudent to spruce up and strengthen those ‘manual’ backup systems, but we still have people available who understand how to operate them, and we should train others to do those jobs, too.

thatsafactjack on March 30, 2014 at 9:25 PM

10960′s…1960′s… sorry… time travel. ;)

thatsafactjack on March 30, 2014 at 9:26 PM

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Check it out, there is a Chevron logo behind her as she speaks. I guess now we know at least one of the corporate partners the governments of the European Union of Socialist States and the USSA are trying to start WWIII on behalf of. The EUSS, the USSA, Russia and China are all state-capitalists now, AKA fascist.

FloatingRock on March 30, 2014 at 9:21 PM

FloatingRock: Whats more distrubing, is that 5 Billion (she says) is over 5
years, and that,….. is on Obama’s Watch!!:)

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 9:26 PM

captnjoe on March 30, 2014 at 9:22 PM

lol! I happen to have a 1973 Thunderbird. And I’m not offering taxi service to the rest of you, either.:)

thatsafactjack on March 30, 2014 at 9:27 PM

Detroit…then MSU and then the U of M….Michigan’s a pit.

CW on March 30, 2014 at 9:28 PM

so maybe it will be ok when Shrillary gets elected. At least the media won’t be able to blame a conservative prez for all of the Emperors fubar’s.

captnjoe on March 30, 2014 at 8:48 PM

captnjoe : You have a point:)

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 9:29 PM

Good evening everyone. We had a death in
the family. Our computer died.
Any techies here?
When we turn it on, nothing but a black screen.
I’ve talked with tech friends, and tried all their
instructions. Disconnected the battery, unplugged
All connections, left battery out for 30 minutes,
nothing has worked.
My guess at this point is the motherboard.
I’ll check back in a bit….

ToddPA on March 30, 2014 at 9:31 PM

lol! I happen to have a 1973 Thunderbird. And I’m not offering taxi service to the rest of you, either.:)

thatsafactjack on March 30, 2014 at 9:27 PM

Is it a convertible??? Cool car! I have an old diesel truck. Don’t need no stinkin’ taxi. (and I can fit more girls in the back than you can :p )

captnjoe on March 30, 2014 at 9:32 PM

captnjoe : You have a point:)

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 9:29 PM

Once in a while I get lucky. (get your mind OUT of the gutter)

captnjoe on March 30, 2014 at 9:33 PM

Brat on March 30, 2014 at 9:24 PM

The Husband is so unhappy that I am not interested in that show. Doesn’t stop him from giving me updates either.

Cindy Munford on March 30, 2014 at 9:33 PM

ToddPA on March 30, 2014 at 9:31 PM

When mine didn’t work the kid couldn’t get it started until he took it all apart and put it back together.

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 9:33 PM

ToddPA on March 30, 2014 at 9:31 PM

if using a distinct graphics card pull it out, reseat it.
if no warning beeps from MB when starting black screen usually the vid card or monitor.
so you see any of the bios/cmos screen when starting?

dmacleo on March 30, 2014 at 9:36 PM

The Husband is so unhappy that I am not interested in that show. Doesn’t stop him from giving me updates either.

Cindy Munford on March 30, 2014 at 9:33 PM

Heh! Over here we don’t even watch TV. Marital harmony.

captnjoe on March 30, 2014 at 9:36 PM

captnjoe on March 30, 2014 at 9:32 PM

Since I’m a woman ( my friends here call me ‘Jackie’) I’ll pass on the chicks in the back. But you can have my share, Cap’n. :)

thatsafactjack on March 30, 2014 at 9:37 PM

I don’t think Gingrich is totally insane, he may have a point. Read the book One Second After by William R. Forstchen, that scared the crap out of me.

BeachBum on March 30, 2014 at 9:37 PM

EMP

Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack

Home

The EMP Commission was established pursuant to title XIV of the Floyd D. Spence National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2001 (as enacted into law by Public Law 106-398; 114 Stat. 1654A-345). Duties of the EMP Commission include assessing:

the nature and magnitude of potential high-altitude EMP threats to the United States from all potentially hostile states or non-state actors that have or could acquire nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles enabling them to perform a high-altitude EMP attack against the United States within the next 15 years;
the vulnerability of United States military and especially civilian systems to an EMP attack, giving special attention to vulnerability of the civilian infrastructure as a matter of emergency preparedness;
the capability of the United States to repair and recover from damage inflicted on United States military and civilian systems by an EMP attack; and
the feasibility and cost of hardening select military and civilian systems against EMP attack.

The Commission is charged with identifying any steps it believes should be taken by the United States to better protect its military and civilian systems from EMP attack.

Multiple reports and briefings associated with this effort have been produced by the EMP Commission including an Executive Report (PDF, 578KB) and a

Critical National Infrastructures Report (PDF, 7MB) describing findings and recommendations.

http://www.empcommission.org/docs/A2473-EMP_Commission-7MB.pdf

The EMP Commission was reestablished via the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2006 to continue its efforts to monitor, investigate, make recommendations, and report to Congress on the evolving threat to the United States from electromagnetic pulse attack resulting from the detonation of a nuclear weapon or weapons at high altitude.

http://www.empcommission.org/

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 9:39 PM

lol! I happen to have a 1973 Thunderbird. And I’m not offering taxi service to the rest of you, either.:)

thatsafactjack on March 30, 2014 at 9:27 PMToddPA on March 30, 2014 at 9:31 PM

better shield your coil and alternator.

dmacleo on March 30, 2014 at 9:39 PM

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 9:29 PM

Once in a while I get lucky. (get your mind OUT of the gutter)

captnjoe on March 30, 2014 at 9:33 PM

captnjoe: Lol,..you were at sea for how long,..haha:)

canopfor on March 30, 2014 at 9:41 PM

thatsafactjack on March 30, 2014 at 9:27 PM

Been laying low, did you have a good vacay?

msupertas on March 30, 2014 at 9:42 PM

When I was 12 I had a horrible dream. I dreamed everyone was yelling, “the sun is crashing into the earth.” I ran to the window and looking north I saw the sun coming toward me. Then I woke up.

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 9:42 PM

Dion – The Wanderer

RickB on March 30, 2014 at 9:42 PM

Dion – The Wanderer

RickB on March 30, 2014 at 9:42 PM

Good one. My music.

crankyoldlady on March 30, 2014 at 9:44 PM

ToddPA on March 30, 2014 at 9:31 PM

If it stays completely black and doesn’t flash or change even a little bit, AND if you can hear the HD running, it may be that the ribbon cable to the screen worked loose.

Lanceman on March 30, 2014 at 9:44 PM

msupertas on March 30, 2014 at 9:42 PM

Good evening, msupertas. :) I did, thanks for asking, my friend. I hope you and yours have been well. :)

I’ve been hitting the QOTD late night, as usual, but I decided to surface for a moment when I stopped by and saw the apocalypse shaping up. ;)

thatsafactjack on March 30, 2014 at 9:44 PM

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