Video: Juan Williams, Raffi Williams on diversity of thought

posted at 1:16 pm on March 29, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Daily Caller founder Tucker Carlson hosted an interesting tête-à-tête this morning on Fox between a staunch conservative and a well-known liberal on the lack of tolerance for diversity of thought demonstrated again this week, this time by a senior editor for Ebony Magazine. The two squared off — or actually supported one another as son and father, respectively and respectfully. RNC deputy press secretary Raffi Williams joined his father Juan Williams to blast the pervasive notions that ideology has to be linked to ethnicity, and Juan urged everyone to open their minds to new ideas rather than dismiss people out of hand:

It’s not just in minority communities where the conversation needs to open up, and not just on ethnicity where identity politics and closed-mindedness prevail. Juan mentions Condoleezza Rice and the cancellation of her speech at Rutgers. So far, the University of Minnesota is resisting a similar call to cancel a speech by Rice because of her work in the Bush administration — but that’s not stopping the calls to close UM’s doors to her:

Student and faculty activists are joining forces to pressure the University of Minnesota to rescind a speaking invitation to former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who is scheduled to deliver an April 17 lecture at Northrop Auditorium.

Rice, who also was national security adviser under President George W. Bush, was invited months ago to deliver a speech on civil rights as part of the Humphrey School of Public Affairs’ “Distinguished Carlson Lecture Series.”

But the University Senate has scheduled a vote next week on a resolution urging the school to disinvite Rice because of her role in the wartime policies of the Bush administration.

Another of the critics’ objections: her speaking fee of $150,000.

Andrea Cournoyer, a spokeswoman for the Humphrey School, rejected the notion of disinviting anyone. “Rescinding any kind of invitation would be inconsistent with our goal of promoting discussion and dialogue,” she said. The Humphrey School, in announcing the lecture, described Rice as “one of the most influential and powerful people in the world.”

Every speaker of this caliber runs six figures, so that’s a bit of a red herring. The issue is that the students and faculty don’t want to hear heterodox views on foreign policy and politics. Why not just stage a parallel event on the campus — and the UM campus in the Twin Cities is one of the largest in the country — as a counterpoint to Rice’s appearance? That way students and faculty can choose which speech to attend and make up their own minds about Rice’s views.  That would be true choice, free speech, and tolerance.

Kudos to the Humphrey Center, which consistently invites speakers from many different political viewpoints to speak and discuss issues. Let’s hope that cooler heads and broader minds prevail.


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Bmore on March 29, 2014 at 3:26 PM

slickwillie2001 on March 29, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Byrd was the leader of a backwater chapter in some grim West Virginia county, not even a statewide leader. Briefly. And he eventually (though, belatedly) renounced it.

urban effetist on March 29, 2014 at 2:57 PM

Tell us why Byrd refused to support Thurgood Marshall for the Supreme Court, and even told the FBI that Marshall was a Communist.

Also tell us why Byrd refused to support another eventual Black Supreme Court Justice.

And tell us why, in 2001, Byrd uttered the “N” word in a live TV interview with the late Tony Snow…

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 3:31 PM

. Your party’s voter suppression laws

the Republican Party has nothing to offer them outside of suppressing their votes

i_am_idiot on March 29, 2014 at 3:01 PM

Once again, please cite all of these examples of Republican Voter Suppression.

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 3:34 PM

urban effetist on March 29, 2014 at 2:57 PM

So… What year did he become a republican? I’m pretty sure you lefties believe that somehow all the ex-Klan left their beloved Democratic Party to become Rs.

mankai on March 29, 2014 at 3:35 PM

HA has had to put up with the same leftist lies about this shit since 2006, and like brain damaged imbeciles impervious to facts and reason, the reprobates come back year after year with the same stupid lies.

You people are unbelievable in your lack of shame.

Murphy9 on March 29, 2014 at 3:38 PM

Ironic thing is most blacks are in fact conservatives.

i_am_idiot on March 29, 2014 at 3:01 PM

You’re still an idiot.

darwin on March 29, 2014 at 3:08 PM

And also a not-very-good Liar.

A 2004 study out of Berkeley showed that less than 30% of blacks ID themselves as conservative; 71% said they were liberal.

And a PEW study showed in 2004 that only 7% of blacks ID themselves as Republicans.

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 3:38 PM

Don’t go away mad, urban effetist. Just go away!

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 3:39 PM

If the Humphrey School of Business “dis-invites” Condi…well then the MN taxpayers should “dis-invite” any public dollars for the U of M.

Buck_Nekkid on March 29, 2014 at 3:43 PM

During the 2012 Republican primary, Hermann Cain was briefly the candidate that conservatives championed (he was only dropped from consideration once his personal conduct with several females was revealed). Our differences with the president are based upon policy, not the color of his skin. If the next Ronald Reagan had black skin, I would crawl on my hands and knees through broken glass to get to the polling station to vote for him.

Cain was a sideshow huckster whose only talent was tell white people what they wanted to hear. The fact that he had any support at all should be considered an embarrassment.

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Robert Byrd is one guy, you know, not a trend. I realize you have no actual evidence to back up your broader generalizations so you cling to Bobby like a kid to a rag doll, but, given that he was on the losing side of all those civil rights votes, it’s pretty hard to trot him out as the representative.

No, if they all belonged to the same Party, it was in fact a Party issue.

Epic Fail.

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 3:15 PM

except that there were more people in the party, including the lader of the party, who supported civil rights, and all those who opposed it were from the same region. Thus, regional issue.

Please provide credible, multi-sourced documemtation of said Cheney War Crimes. How is that trial at The Hague working out for you?

And please tell us why Colon Powell was also charged with those same War Crimes (whatever they were lol) but then was magically Pardoned by your Party after he endorsed your Cult Leader.

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 3:19 PM

Oh, stop frothing. I called him a cyborg, too It’s possible that I wasn’t being entirely serious, you know.

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 3:39 PM

I think he (or she) left, mumbling to himself (or herself) “what the he!! am I doing?” after trying to turn this into a “support sheets Byrd” thread.

Erich66 on March 29, 2014 at 3:45 PM

Cain was a sideshow huckster whose only talent was tell white people what they wanted to hear. The fact that he had any support at all should be considered an embarrassment.

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 3:43 PM

It’s always fun to watch liberals prove your point.

Cheese Wheel on March 29, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Document the massive voter fraud that these measures will end. As you might guess, I’m all in favor of the DOJ acting to halt clearly partisan attempts at voter suppression.

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 2:32 PM

In NC, we have no idea how much fraud existed because anyone could walk into any polling venue with just a name and an address. That’s it. Here’s your ballot!

Such info i.s public as are voting records. Get a list of voters on a block. Find out who never votes. Show up, “Tom Smith, 425 Elm Street”. Another vote for a Democrat.

As for Nixon, you know nothing. He pushed for desegregation long before racist LBJ figured out how to manipulate those “Ns” (his word) into voting dem. The South was aggressively desegregated under Eisenhower and Nixon, not much under Kennedy and LBJ.

I lived in AL and worked in the local GOP. The state is still overwhelmingly Dem by registration. Bull Connor and George Wallace were both Dems. The Southern strategy was about the culture, not desegregation.

mankai on March 29, 2014 at 3:46 PM

The Left discourages dissent from its orthodoxies for good reasons.

Their ideas not only fail to stand up to logical scrutiny, they have all been implemented multiple times in various settings and societies around the world, and been proven unworkable in reality. Therefore, in order to hold together their coalition, contact with opposing views is violently opposed and dealt with in the most severe manner.

Conservatism is ridiculed and ostracized on campuses, faculties are virtually ideologically pure leftist, especially where the faculties have the final say on grants of tenure. Supposed constituencies like blacks and gays and “feminists” are kept in line with harsh treatment for straying from ideological purity.

Hence, a black conservative is treated as a traitor to his race, gay Republicans usually keep their politics quiet, young women are treated to only one side of arguments as others are dismissed as “patriarchal.”

Adjoran on March 29, 2014 at 3:47 PM

Abortion was, is and ever shall be about killing off blacks. Killing blacks the cornerstone of Planned Parenthood.

mankai on March 29, 2014 at 3:50 PM

A fine read for a Saturday afternoon:
The Democratic Party’s War on Black People and How to Counter It

slickwillie2001 on March 29, 2014 at 3:50 PM

Cain was a sideshow huckster whose only talent was tell white people what they wanted to hear. The fact that he had any support at all should be considered an embarrassment.

An embarrassment on the scale of, say, Jackson and Sharpton? And is the problem that Cain just doesn’t know his place because he doesn’t think the way blacks are supposed to?

Erich66 on March 29, 2014 at 3:50 PM

Juan Williams himself knows how he must contort logic to support Democratic ideas and policies as a Fox analyst. And he personally experienced the shunning when he dared voice doubt of leftist doctrines at NPR.

In no subset of Democratic constituencies is this oppression stricter than among blacks. Any dissenter is treated like an “Uncle Tom” traitor.

In 1960, Nixon won over 37% of the black vote. No Republican has topped 10% since, except for Reagan’s 13% in his 1984 reelection landslide.

Democrats understand that if Republicans could consistently win 15-20% of the black vote, the Democratic Party would be in serious trouble, with its very survival in question. Therefore, dissenting blacks must be vilified to intimidate the rest to stay on the plantation.

Adjoran on March 29, 2014 at 3:53 PM

In NC, we have no idea how much fraud existed because anyone could walk into any polling venue with just a name and an address. That’s it. Here’s your ballot!

Such info i.s public as are voting records. Get a list of voters on a block. Find out who never votes. Show up, “Tom Smith, 425 Elm Street”. Another vote for a Democrat.

So, you have no evidence at all. Also, in NC, why did they limit pre-election voting and Sunday voting, both of which — coincidentally, I am sure — favor democrats in recent years?

As for Nixon, you know nothing. He pushed for desegregation long before racist LBJ figured out how to manipulate those “Ns” (his word) into voting dem. The South was aggressively desegregated under Eisenhower and Nixon, not much under Kennedy and LBJ.

I lived in AL and worked in the local GOP. The state is still overwhelmingly Dem by registration. Bull Connor and George Wallace were both Dems. The Southern strategy was about the culture, not desegregatio

Kudos for Eisenhower’s actions enforcing Brown v. the BOard of Education but to suggest that there was significant desegregation in the south before the 60s is to admit significant ignorance of history.

No ones denying that the Dems led the racist movement in the South in the 60s. But those guys are dead and that wing of the party is long gone, with whatever racist riff-raff still votes drifting somewhere else.
mankai on March 29, 2014 at 3:46 PM

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Robert Byrd is one guy, you know, not a trend. I realize you have no actual evidence to back up your broader generalizations so you cling to Bobby like a kid to a rag doll, but, given that he was on the losing side of all those civil rights votes, it’s pretty hard to trot him out as the representative.

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Kind of like you race hucksters trot out Strom Thurmond to try and sell the fiction that the racist Democratics in Congress all suddenly became Republicans, when Strom Thurmond was the only one to switch parties in the 1960′s?

Wrong, the racist Democratics stayed Democratics and they built up Planned Parenthood which has murdered a hundred thousand many times more blacks than the KKK ever did.

slickwillie2001 on March 29, 2014 at 3:57 PM

Cain was a sideshow huckster whose only talent was tell white people what they wanted to hear. The fact that he had any support at all should be considered an embarrassment.

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Now, you are showing your bigotry. Cain was a talented businessman – he was the one who turned around Godfather’s Pizza.

It really helps if the President of the United States were to have some talent in running large organizations. The disasterous Obamacare rollout is what happens when he does not.

SubmarineDoc on March 29, 2014 at 3:59 PM

Please provide credible, multi-sourced documemtation of said Cheney War Crimes. How is that trial at The Hague working out for you?

And please tell us why Colon Powell was also charged with those same War Crimes (whatever they were lol) but then was magically Pardoned by your Party after he endorsed your Cult Leader.

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 3:19 PM

Oh, stop frothing. I called him a cyborg, too It’s possible that I wasn’t being entirely serious, you know.

urban effetist on March 29, 2014 at 3:43 PM

So Cheney’s not a war criminal? Then why did you throw those two words into the conversation in the first place?

Please continue.

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 4:01 PM

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Robert Byrd is one guy, you know, not a trend. I realize you have no actual evidence to back up your broader generalizations so you cling to Bobby like a kid to a rag doll, but, given that he was on the losing side of all those civil rights votes, it’s pretty hard to trot him out as the representative.

urban effetist on March 29, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Translated: “I refuse to answer Del’s questions.”

One more time:

Tell us why Byrd refused to support Thurgood Marshall for the Supreme Court, and even told the FBI that Marshall was a Communist.

Also tell us why Byrd refused to support another eventual Black Supreme Court Justice.

And tell us why, in 2001, Byrd uttered the “N” word in a live TV interview with the late Tony Snow…

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 4:01 PM

Gotta laugh at a gay liberal ranting about “frothing”. Must be a Fredian negligee.

slickwillie2001 on March 29, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Now, you are showing your bigotry. Cain was a talented businessman – he was the one who turned around Godfather’s Pizza.

It really helps if the President of the United States were to have some talent in running large organizations. The disasterous Obamacare rollout is what happens when he does not.

SubmarineDoc on March 29, 2014 at 3:59 PM

Cain was a talented businessman but a joke as presidential candidate

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 4:05 PM

No ones denying that the Dems led the racist movement in the South in the 60s. But those guys are dead and that wing of the party is long gone, with whatever racist riff-raff still votes drifting somewhere else.

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 3:54 PM

??? Your party categorizes people by their ethnicity, gender and sexual preference. Everyone is a victim except white males who vote Republican. Blacks have been destroyed by democrat policies and those that manage to get off the democrat plantation are attacked mercilessly. Clarence Thomas is a stooge, Ben Carson is a race traitor, Condi Rice has been called names that would get me banned. Even liberal Juan Williams was attacked and fired because he didn’t read the correct script.

It’s not the GOP attacking minorities … it’s YOU people.

darwin on March 29, 2014 at 4:07 PM

Oh, and urban effetist, please share your thoughts on this recent doing from the past few days:

Woman Convicted of Voter Fraud Honored by Ohio Democrats

Ohio Democrats, still pushing their phony “voter suppression” meme, kicked off a campaign tonight to put a constitutional amendment on the November ballot. They even brought in Al Sharpton for support.

Sharon Coolidge of the Cincinnati Enquirer tweeted coverage of the event, and it seemed to be the same tired arguments that have been repeated endlessly, until she reported this:

Melowese Richardson, convicted of voter fraud and then released early from prison, called to stage for a “welcome home.”

Remember Melowese Richardson?

She was a poll worker who used her position to vote for Obama multiple times. She is one of the few who ever gets caught for voter fraud and was sentenced to five years in prison.

And care to comment on this other new case?

Pennsylvania Democrats were caught on surveillance tape reportedly accepting cash bribes in return for opposing voter ID in the Pennsylvania legislature. Gifts of Tiffany’s jewelry were also given to Democrat legislators from Philadelphia, reportedly in exchange for “NO” votes on a Pennsylvania voter ID bill that passed in 2012.

Despite this evidence, Pennsylvania Attorney General Kathleen Kane has not charged any officials. Kane is a Democrat.

Kane’s excuse for her inaction? Racism: some of the legislators caught on tape accepting bribes were black Democrats from Philadelphia.

Dance, Scarecrow!

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Now, you are showing your bigotry. Cain was a talented businessman – he was the one who turned around Godfather’s Pizza.

It really helps if the President of the United States were to have some talent in running large organizations. The disasterous Obamacare rollout is what happens when he does not.

SubmarineDoc on March 29, 2014 at 3:59 PM

Cain was a talented businessman but a joke as a presidential candidate, from the moment he declared.

Gotta laugh at a gay liberal ranting about “frothing”. Must be a Fredian negligee.

slickwillie2001 on March 29, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Not gay, actually. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Gotta laugh at a guy so dull that that he confuses lame sexual innuendos for wit.

Tell us why Byrd refused to support Thurgood Marshall for the Supreme Court, and even told the FBI that Marshall was a Communist.

Also tell us why Byrd refused to support another eventual Black Supreme Court Justice.

And tell us why, in 2001, Byrd uttered the “N” word in a live TV interview with the late Tony Snow…

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Robert Byrd was no progressive on race relations. As such, he was increasingly unrepresentative of the Democratic congressional caucus. While we’re on confirmations, tell me why Jeff Sessions made white grievance the entire basis of his opposition to Sonia Sotomayor? A little Southern Strategy in the Senate?

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 4:11 PM

SubmarineDoc on March 29, 2014 at 3:59 PM

Cain was a talented businessman but a joke as presidential candidate

urban effetist on March 29, 2014 at 4:05 PM

What did he do wrong, in your opinion?

And if he weren’t, in your opinion, a “joke” as a Presidential candidate but in fact a serious one, would you have voted for him?

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Robert Byrd was no progressive on race relations. As such, he was increasingly unrepresentative of the Democratic congressional caucus.

urban effetist on March 29, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Epic Fail, because in his votes against Thurgood Marshall and Clarence Thomas Byrd voted with the Democrat Majority in both cases. In fact, in the vote against Thomas, it was a rock-solid 45 Democrat Senator bloc voting against confirmation.

You really need two shovels.

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 4:17 PM

Cheese Wheel on March 29, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Yep. Its why I cut directly to the chase with him. He is a racist bigot of the leftist variety.

Bmore on March 29, 2014 at 4:23 PM

It really helps if the President of the United States were to have some talent in running large organizations. The disasterous Obamacare rollout is what happens when he does not.

SubmarineDoc on March 29, 2014 at 3:59 PM

Cain was a talented businessman but a joke as presidential candidate

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 4:05 PM

You really want to go there? Your messiah wasn’t a talented anything.

Cheese Wheel on March 29, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Cain was a talented businessman but a joke as presidential candidate

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Cain was smart and well spoken. As you have admitted (after I kicked you in the teeth) he has a demonstrated talent at running large organizations. And he was briefly very popular with conservatives, before revalations about his personal behavior sank his candidacy. He could have gone all the way to the nomination, if he had better personal behavior.

I liked him and would have been happy to vote for him – until I heard about his personal failings. (Unlike liberals who ignored the personal behavior of Fliner, Kennedy, and Clinton – conservatives have SOME standards.)

The fact that you do not like him does not make him a “joke”. Once again, this is your own bigotry on display.

SubmarineDoc on March 29, 2014 at 4:27 PM

I’m in favor of democracy.

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 2:37 PM

I’m not. The founding fathers weren’t either. Learning is so hard.

Schadenfreude on March 29, 2014 at 4:30 PM

And the majority of the Ds

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 2:37 PM

He could have NEVER signed it with just the Ds, due to their racism.

Schadenfreude on March 29, 2014 at 4:31 PM

It’s not just in minority communities where the conversation needs to open up, and not just on ethnicity where identity politics and closed-mindedness prevail.

True, but the fact of the matter is that Senior Ebony editor Jamilah Lemieux is clearly a racist who hates dissenting opinion. Yet she is still employed this evening despite her “lack of judgement” and racial slurs.

Happy Nomad on March 29, 2014 at 4:34 PM

7 Things Liberals REALLY MEAN When They Cry “Racism”

Racism used to mean hating someone because of his race.

No more.

Today, 99 times out of 100 in politics, the word “racist” is used purely for political reasons without any regard to whether something bigoted was actually said.

That doesn’t mean that racism doesn’t exist. It CERTAINLY DOES and sometimes it’s right out in the open, like the Left’s “Black Americans are way too stupid and incompetent to get voter ID like all the other races” canard. But, if we were to define “racism” as offensive statements about someone of another race that wouldn’t be automatically excused if Joe Biden, Harry Reid, or Bill Clinton said them, then there’s so little “racism” in politics that it’s barely worth mentioning.

Yet, the accusations of “racism” never seem to stop. Why? Because when liberals cry “racism,” they don’t really mean racism. They mean….

1) You disagree with me: “The Republican Party is racist.” “Sarah Palin is racist.” There’s a famous Tea Party sign that reads, “It doesn’t matter what this sign says. You’ll call it racism anyway!” Why are these people and groups racist? They JUST ARE. “Everybody” knows it. In other words, liberals believe they can’t be racist by virtue of being liberal; so people or groups that oppose them must be “racist” by default. It’s about as intellectual as a five year old calling someone a “poopy head,” but it’s how they think.

2) I need more attention and/or money: There are an awful lot of people in the Democrat Party who make a living calling people “racist.” Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Melissa Harris-Perry, Toure, Joy Reid, Eric Dyson, the NAACP, Tavis Smiley, Cornell West and Ben Jealous rely on finding new and intriguing ways to accuse people of bigotry to fill their pockets and get in front of cameras. If they couldn’t find enough things to call “racist,” they’d be nobodies and worse yet, some of them might have to get real jobs instead of pretending to be offended for a living.

3) Let’s take a choice away from black Americans: No group in Congress does less to make the lives of its constituents better than the Congressional Black Caucus. Furthermore, no ethnic group in America has been more loyal to a political party with less to show for it than black Americans. So how can it be that the Democrat Party has been an absolute disaster for black Americans, yet it can count on 90% of the black vote every election? Simple; liberals have falsely convinced black Americans that Republicans hate them. That means no matter how bad it gets, Republicans can’t even be considered as an option. This is how Democrats have managed to utterly destroy cities like Detroit without the populace even considering the Republican Party as an option.

4) You are disagreeing with a minority: The last thing any liberal wants is to argue an issue on its merits. Is it logical? Does it work? Is the benefit worth the cost? These things have NOTHING to do with why liberals support a position. So, one of the many ways they try to get people off track is to accuse any white person arguing with a minority of being racist. This is a neat trick, given that roughly 70% of Hispanic Americans and 90% of black Americans vote Democrat. Maybe Republicans should adopt this one and start accusing liberals who disagree with Allen West, Ben Carson and Ted Cruz of being racists.

5) Your attack is damaging us: When Republicans hit Democrats with any kind of damaging attack, it is inevitably called “racist.” For example, this is how former MSNBC host Martin Bashir could say something as crazy as, “Republicans are using [the IRS scandal] as their latest weapon in the war against the black man in the White House. ‘IRS’ is the new ‘N****r.’” It’s an attempt to shut Republicans up.

6) You won’t do what I want!: When you reward and encourage people who claim to be offended by trivia instead of laughing at them for being such pansies, it only encourages them to lash out more at people who hurt their precious feelings. Liberals who get their feelings hurt tend to respond by classifying the people who’ve egregiously offended them – by say, wearing a Redskins jersey, supporting lower taxes, or not voting for Obama — as horrible human beings. Maybe they’re part of the “patriarchy,” “sexists,” “homophobes” or “racists.” In all fairness, if Hillary Clinton were running for President, liberals would be screaming about sexism all the time. However, since Obama is ruining the country at the moment, calling someone a “racist” is their preferred way of whining that people won’t do what they want.

7) Stop trying to do outreach to black Americans: Democrats believe they own black Americans. That’s why they hate black Americans who don’t buy into that or white Republicans who want to do outreach. So, if a black Republican challenges the idea that black Americans are all helpless victims of racism who need crumbs from Democrats to survive, he’ll be racially insulted. If a white Republican like Paul Ryan starts doing some outreach that could conceivably appeal to black Americans, he will immediately be attacked as a racist. The Democrats are absolutely committed to keeping black Americans under their thumbs and anyone who challenges that will be treated as a threat.

Murphy9 on March 29, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Always funny to see a bunch of out of touch white folks chat about what is really best for black folks.

i_am_liberal on March 29, 2014 at 2:55 PM

You can see through the net, mirabile!

Two, who are you to forbid anyone to speak their mind?

You’re a racist slave, nothing other.

Schadenfreude on March 29, 2014 at 4:37 PM

I liked him and would have been happy to vote for him – until I heard about his personal failings. (Unlike liberals who ignored the personal behavior of Fliner, Kennedy, and Clinton – conservatives have SOME standards.)

SubmarineDoc on March 29, 2014 at 4:27 PM

No, what you heard about Cain was allegations about his personal behavior from people with a different agenda. It sunk his candidacy because that is all that the media would have focused on but little was proven and “poof” he drops out of the race and all those allegations went away.

I’m not speaking on the validity of the allegations other than to simply point out that it is wrong of you to post as if they were proven true. Cain IMO would have been a good choice for VP.

Happy Nomad on March 29, 2014 at 4:39 PM

It’s too unfortunate the Republican D Party has nothing to offer them outside of suppressing their votes opportunities and treating them like second class citizens (for votes only).

i_am_liberallestistthug on March 29, 2014 at 3:01 PM

Schadenfreude on March 29, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Always funny to see a bunch of out of touch white folks chat about what is really best for black folks.

i_am_liberal on March 29, 2014 at 2:55 PM

This is liberalism, in a nutshell. Is your irony meter off?

SubmarineDoc on March 29, 2014 at 4:43 PM

Cain was a talented businessman but a joke as presidential candidate

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 4:05 PM

obama has no clue about business and is the joke of the world. LilliPutin laughs at the lilliputian.

Schadenfreude on March 29, 2014 at 4:44 PM

i_am_liberalleftistthug on March 29, 2014 at 3:01 PM

No more, no less, leftist thugs you are, all of you, always. We are the true liberals. You stole the terms liberal and progressive.

Otherwise you’d fight against the slaughter of Christians in Syria and the live roasting of dogs in your Jesus’ homeland, Indonesia.

Schadenfreude on March 29, 2014 at 4:45 PM

I’m not speaking on the validity of the allegations other than to simply point out that it is wrong of you to post as if they were proven true. Cain IMO would have been a good choice for VP.

Happy Nomad on March 29, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Happy

You are quite correct that they were allegations, and were never conclusively proven. Thanks for the correction. I did notice that the allegations did suddelny vanish, once he ended his candidacy.

SubmarineDoc on March 29, 2014 at 4:48 PM

I did notice that the allegations did suddelny vanish, once he ended his candidacy.

SubmarineDoc on March 29, 2014 at 4:48 PM

They only love clean D blacks.

Schadenfreude on March 29, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Cain was a sideshow huckster whose only talent was tell white people what they wanted to hear. The fact that he had any support at all should be considered an embarrassment.

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 3:43 PM

You’re a racist, bigoted, ignorant piece of shit.

Midas on March 29, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Isn’t it interesting that the liberal trolls on this thread keep screaming racism, but they have nothing to say about the fact that leftists are trying to deny a BLACK WOMAN the right to speak at a university?

SubmarineDoc on March 29, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Always funny to see a bunch of out of touch white folks chat about what is really best for black folks.

i_am_liberal on March 29, 2014 at 2:55 PM

Agreed. Never understood why the Democrat party thinks they know what’s best for black folks, after generations of abject failure in doing so.

Midas on March 29, 2014 at 4:53 PM

95% of the black population hate the 5% of conservative blacks. Very open minded.

nobama1267 on March 29, 2014 at 1:38 PM

A few of my black conservative friends have related what kind of reaction they get at parties when their fellow blacks realize they are conservative.

It’s not pretty.

NavyMustang on March 29, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Epic Fail, because in his votes against Thurgood Marshall and Clarence Thomas Byrd voted with the Democrat Majority in both cases. In fact, in the vote against Thomas, it was a rock-solid 45 Democrat Senator bloc voting against confirmation.

You really need two shovels.

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 4:17 PM

A majority of Democrats voted for Marshall. A majority of Democrats voted again Thomas because he was a sleazeball. Not a race-based decision.

I’m not. The founding fathers weren’t either. Learning is so hard.

Schadenfreude on March 29, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Conservatives do have a deep skepticism about letting people vote. the Founding fathers were hardly perfect in this — or any regard.

Cain was smart and well spoken. As you have admitted (after I kicked you in the teeth) he has a demonstrated talent at running large organizations. And he was briefly very popular with conservatives, before revalations about his personal behavior sank his candidacy. He could have gone all the way to the nomination, if he had better personal behavior.

I liked him and would have been happy to vote for him – until I heard about his personal failings. (Unlike liberals who ignored the personal behavior of Fliner, Kennedy, and Clinton – conservatives have SOME standards.)

The fact that you do not like him does not make him a “joke”. Once again, this is your own bigotry on display.

SubmarineDoc on March 29, 2014 at 4:27 PM

his campaign was an obvious gimmick from the start. He was simply loving the media spotlight, which was largely the result him being a black tea partier, rather than any actual political vision. He was a novelty act.

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Conservatives do have a deep skepticism about letting people vote. the Founding fathers were hardly perfect in this — or any regard.

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 4:58 PM

What bullshyt. Is that why the New Black Panther thugs were scaring people off?

darwin on March 29, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Anyway, big night out, so I’m going to have to leave you to your own devices while I clean up.

Have a great weekend, gang!

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Dance, Scarecrow!

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 4:11 PM

Hey Del – you forgot another, more recent example of a conviction of vote fraud. One of the three California state senators who was just suspended from the State Senate (along with the gun control advocate who was just indicted for smuggling missiles) was convicted of vote fraud.

http://articles.latimes.com/2014/jan/28/local/la-me-pc-rod-wright-verdict-20140127

More of that non-existent vote fraud. But any attempt to crack down on vote fraud is “vote suppression”.

SubmarineDoc on March 29, 2014 at 5:06 PM

What bullshyt. Is that why the New Black Panther thugs were scaring people off?

darwin on March 29, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Of course, as we learned during the investigation after 2008 and in 2012, the New Black Panthers didn’t actually intimidate anyone in their virtually all-black precinct (believe me, if you live in a city, you see enough guys like them over time that even white people aren’t intimidated ) and some of the old ladies were pleased that the young men were there to protect their polling places.

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 5:09 PM

A majority of Democrats voted for Marshall. A majority of Democrats voted again Thomas because he was a sleazeball. Not a race-based decision.

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Complete nuclear fail. Please explain the democrats love for Bill Clinton, a sleazeball if ever there was one. In fact, democrats seem to have no problem with sleaze balls as long as they think appropriately.

Erich66 on March 29, 2014 at 5:10 PM

his campaign was an obvious gimmick from the start. He was simply loving the media spotlight, which was largely the result him being a black tea partier, rather than any actual political vision. He was a novelty act.

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Wrong again. His support was real. If you actually followed the campaign, you would know that conservatives were desperate for the “anti-Romney”. For a while, we thought that we had found him.

But in your narrow minded little world, any blacks who dare to think things different than what liberals tell them to think are either (your words) a “joke” or a “sleazeball”. You do not know your own bigotry, any more than water can know that it is wet. You are just so saturated in your own bigotry to see it for what it is.

SubmarineDoc on March 29, 2014 at 5:21 PM

Of course, as we learned during the investigation after 2008 and in 2012, the New Black Panthers didn’t actually intimidate anyone in their virtually all-black precinct (believe me, if you live in a city, you see enough guys like them over time that even white people aren’t intimidated ) and some of the old ladies were pleased that the young men were there to protect their polling places.

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Protect their polling places from what?

In addition, according to your logic, skin heads could stand in front of polling places to “protect” it without intimidating anyone.

darwin on March 29, 2014 at 5:24 PM

This is liberalism, in a nutshell. Is your irony meter off?

SubmarineDoc on March 29, 2014 at 4:43 PM

Once again it is very funny when republicans try to deny most in their party aren’t anti minority. There is a reason why most blacks and Hispanics who tend to be conservatives mind you hate your party.

You can yell and scream all you want about how some democrat senator used to be part of the KKK but fact is your party has inherited the racist mantra from the racist dems of back in the day.

So go ahead and convince each other on how your voter suppression laws that target blacks who tend to vote early, tend not to have the proper paper work to obtain your cherry-picked voter IDs and tend to vote on Sundays after church are in fact good for black people.

i_am_liberal on March 29, 2014 at 5:24 PM

A majority of Democrats voted again Thomas because he was a sleazeball. Not a race-based decision.

urban effetist on March 29, 2014 at 4:58 PM

If he was such a sleazeball, why did 11 Democrats vote for his confirmation?

And if he was such a sleazeball, how come a former female co-worker at the DEA who shared an office with him state under oath:

Nancy Altman, who shared an office with Thomas at the Department of Education, testified that she heard virtually everything Thomas said over the course of two years, and never heard any sexist or offensive comment. Altman did not find it credible that Thomas could have engaged in the conduct alleged by Hill, without any of the dozens of women he worked with noticing it.

And if Thomas was such a sleazeball, why did Anita Hill continue to socialize with him after the two stopped working together?

Another quick question: how come it took your Democrats 3 decades after the Civil Rights Act to even run a black candidate for the US Senate? The Republicans successfully did so just a couple of years after LBJ signed that bill.

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 5:26 PM

Once again it is very funny when republicans try to deny most in their party aren’t anti minority. There is a reason why most blacks and Hispanics who tend to be conservatives mind you hate your party.

You can yell and scream all you want about how some democrat senator used to be part of the KKK but fact is your party has inherited the racist mantra from the racist dems of back in the day.

So go ahead and convince each other on how your voter suppression laws that target blacks who tend to vote early, tend not to have the proper paper work to obtain your cherry-picked voter IDs and tend to vote on Sundays after church are in fact good for black people.

i_am_liberal on March 29, 2014 at 5:24 PM

No nation can survive the tyranny of willfully ignorant racists like this.

Murphy9 on March 29, 2014 at 5:27 PM

A majority of Democrats voted for Marshall. A majority of Democrats voted again Thomas because he was a sleazeball. Not a race-based decision.

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Still waiting on a response about this garbage. All the douchebags democrats have supported over the years, and we’re supposed to believe democrats had a problem with Thomas because of his personal life. My God, the stupid is strong with this one.

Erich66 on March 29, 2014 at 5:28 PM

Raffi Williams, you are clearly a credit to our party and our movement, and I look forward to seeing you further your career through our party…

JohnGalt23 on March 29, 2014 at 5:29 PM

But in your narrow minded little world, any blacks who dare to think things different than what liberals tell them to think are either (your words) a “joke” or a “sleazeball”. You do not know your own bigotry, any more than water can know that it is wet. You are just so saturated in your own bigotry to see it for what it is.

SubmarineDoc on March 29, 2014 at 5:21 PM

It’s not that democrats care if some blacks think differently. What they’re afraid of is a black Republican politician that would awaken other blacks from their deep sleep of leftist propaganda. Once they stop believing the left’s lies it’s all over for democrats and the left. That’s why they attacked Palin, that’s why they attack any conservative woman, gay or minority. That’s why they went after Glenn Beck and constantly go after Fox News. Any threat to the lies won’t be tolerated.

darwin on March 29, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Once again it is very funny when republicans try to deny most in their party aren’t anti minority. There is a reason why most blacks and Hispanics who tend to be conservatives mind you hate your party.

Which is why white liberals like you have to threaten black and Hispanic conservatives with murder and lynching.

You can yell and scream all you want about how some democrat senator used to be part of the KKK but fact is your party has inherited the racist mantra from the racist dems of back in the day.

Actually, “progressives” such as yourself beat and attack black people and attempt to punish any minority member who is anything other than welfare-addicted and government dependent.

Also, yours is the party of sick racism. You endorse and preach racist hate because you are all racists, just like Obama and his preacher who called for the murder of all Jews.

So go ahead and convince each other on how your voter suppression laws that target blacks who tend to vote early, tend not to have the proper paper work to obtain your cherry-picked voter IDs and tend to vote on Sundays after church are in fact good for black people.

i_am_liberal on March 29, 2014 at 5:24 PM

LOL.

You do realize that, in order to collect welfare, hold a job, or drive a car, they have to have the very same ID as required to vote.

So what you’re admitting with your screams that black people don’t have ID is that they are a) driving illegally, b) collecting welfare illegally, or c) holding a job illegally.

Which is it, white liberal racist? Why don’t you answer that question for us, white liberal racist, and tell us what black people are doing illegally?

northdallasthirty on March 29, 2014 at 5:30 PM

i_am_liberal on March 29, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Utter Bullshit…

OmahaConservative on March 29, 2014 at 5:31 PM

Once again it is very funny when republicans try to deny most in their party aren’t anti minority. There is a reason why most blacks and Hispanics who tend to be conservatives mind you hate your party.

Name the specific GOP policies that are “anti-minority”.

You can yell and scream all you want about how some democrat senator used to be part of the KKK but fact is your party has inherited the racist mantra from the racist dems of back in the day.

Quote the specific racist “mantra” that the GOP uses today.

So go ahead and convince each other on how your voter suppression laws that target blacks who tend to vote early, tend not to have the proper paper work to obtain your cherry-picked voter IDs and tend to vote on Sundays after church are in fact good for black people.

i_am_liberal on March 29, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Explain how voter ID suppresses votes but one must have ID to get welfare, food stamps, medicaid or medicare.

darwin on March 29, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Protect their polling places from what?

darwin on March 29, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Indeed. Blacks turned out in Philadelphia in 2008 to cow white voters. Eric Holder, a black supporter of terrorists, had some equally racist blacks look into the matter. No crime here!!!!!

This was the first indication of just how corrupt the Obama administration was going to be.

Happy Nomad on March 29, 2014 at 5:34 PM

What bullshyt. Is that why the New Black Panther thugs were scaring people off?

darwin on March 29, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Of course, as we learned during the fake investigation after 2008 and in 2012, the New Black Panthers didn’t actually intimidate anyone in their virtually all-black precinct

urban effetist on March 29, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Fixed.

As far as 2008, a Federal Court in DC ruled in 2012 that there was active collusion by Holder and DOJ to interfere with the prosecution of the New Black Panthers.

A federal court in Washington, DC, held today that political appointees appointed by President Obama did interfere with the Department of Justice’s prosecution of the New Black Panther Party.

-snip-

The documents reveal that political appointees within DOJ were conferring about the status and resolution of the New Black Panther Party case in the days preceding the DOJ’s dismissal of claims in that case, which would appear to contradict Assistant Attorney General Perez’s testimony that political leadership was not involved in that decision. Surely the public has an interest in documents that cast doubt on the accuracy of government officials’ representations regarding the possible politicization of agency decision-making.

F-

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 5:34 PM

Of course, what we’re dealing with here are violent and vicious racists. i_am_racist and urban racist are merely repeating the mantra of the white liberal Obama Party leadership, which calls for the murder of all black children possible and the destruction of any black person who does not vote for or support white liberals.

The Obama Party is viciously and completely racist, as suits their KKK background. Like their KKK forbears, they rely on intimidation and namecalling to force black people to vote for them. They destroy black communities and families to force black people to live on handouts. They attack and destroy the careers of any black person who dares disagree with them, and raise an entire brigade of kapos like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton to demonize anyone who opposes their enslavement of black people.

northdallasthirty on March 29, 2014 at 5:41 PM

your voter suppression laws that target blacks who tend to vote early, tend not to have the proper paper work to obtain your cherry-picked voter IDs and tend to vote on Sundays after church are in fact good for black people. Of course, I am making all of this manure up as I go along, because there’s no way I can prove even a scrap of it.

i_am_idiot on March 29, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Edited to reflect your sad reality.

I grew up in Hawai’i in the mid 1960s. In fact we lived, as the nene goose flies, about 10 or so miles from where your Cult Leader was raised.

As a white, I was in the minority there, and experienced racism due to that fact on a daily basis. And decades later, racism in (Democrat) Hawai’i is still a major problem-a fact that even your Far-Left Southern Poverty Law Center has repeatedly exposed.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2009/fall/prejudice-in-paradise

And this was-and still is-a state dominated by not Republicans, but by your Democrats.

Sorry, Junior, but you’re way out of your league here.

F-

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 5:43 PM

So go ahead and convince each other on how your voter suppression laws that target blacks who tend to vote early, tend not to have the proper paper work to obtain your cherry-picked voter IDs and tend to vote on Sundays after church are in fact good for black people.

i_am_liberal on March 29, 2014 at 5:24 PM

Explain how voter ID suppresses votes but one must have ID to get welfare, food stamps, medicaid or medicare.

darwin on March 29, 2014 at 5:33 PM

Please don’t confuse the Unit with Facts.

It is not programmed to respond in that area.

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 5:46 PM

What bullshyt. Is that why the New Black Panther thugs were scaring people off?

darwin on March 29, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Of course, as we learned during the investigation after 2008 and in 2012, the New Black Panthers didn’t actually intimidate anyone in their virtually all-black precinct (believe me, if you live in a city, you see enough guys like them over time that even white people aren’t intimidated ) and some of the old ladies were pleased that the young men were there to protect their polling places.

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Google is your friend, urbanalnskyite. Perhaps you should remember that prior to opening mouth and inserting a gnarly webbed hoof.

http://blog.heritage.org/2010/07/16/the-new-black-panther-party-case-a-timeline/

http://jonathanturley.org/2012/08/01/federal-court-rules-against-obama-administration-in-black-panther-foia-case/

tanked59 on March 29, 2014 at 5:48 PM

SubmarineDoc on March 29, 2014 at 5:21 PM

It’s not that democrats care if some blacks think differently. What they’re afraid of is a black Republican politician that would awaken other blacks from their deep sleep of leftist propaganda.

darwin on March 29, 2014 at 5:30 PM

Which might explain why the Democrats waited 3 decades after the passing of the Civil Rights Act to run a black candidate for the US Senate.

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 5:49 PM

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Google is your friend, urbanalnskyite. Perhaps you should remember that prior to opening mouth and inserting a gnarly webbed hoof.

http://blog.heritage.org/2010/07/16/the-new-black-panther-party-case-a-timeline/

http://jonathanturley.org/2012/08/01/federal-court-rules-against-obama-administration-in-black-panther-foia-case/

tanked59 on March 29, 2014 at 5:48 PM

urban effetist will dismiss your first link due to the source, but dismissing a Democrat legal eagle named Jonathan Turley will require some major projection!

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Explain how voter ID suppresses votes but one must have ID to get welfare, food stamps, medicaid or medicare.
darwin on March 29, 2014 at 5:33 PM

I know in your world, most blacks are usually the takers on welfare and foodstamps. I know in your world it’s good to prevent blacks from voting on Sunday right after church. So give it a try Sport. Go ahead and lecture blacks like me on how preventing us from voting on Sunday is good for us.

i_am_liberal on March 29, 2014 at 5:55 PM

urban effetist will dismiss your first link due to the source, but dismissing a Democrat legal eagle named Jonathan Turley will require some major projection!

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 5:51 PM

Agreed, which is why I specifically cited Turley’s blog. But then again, does it really matter when it comes to the moonbat mentality?

“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan

tanked59 on March 29, 2014 at 5:56 PM

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 3:43 PM

One day you’ll think for yourself. GIGO.

CW on March 29, 2014 at 5:57 PM

i_am_liberal on March 29, 2014 at 5:55 PM

You are a pathetic race baiting bigoted racist. and a POS.

Bmore on March 29, 2014 at 5:58 PM

Stinking leftist freaking fools.

Bmore on March 29, 2014 at 5:59 PM

and some of the old ladies were pleased that the young men were there to protect their polling places.

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Bwhahaahahhwahahaha.
You’re funny.

Explain how voter ID suppresses votes but one must have ID to get welfare, food stamps, medicaid or medicare.
darwin on March 29, 2014 at 5:33 PM

I know in your world, most blacks are usually the takers on welfare and foodstamps. I know in your world it’s good to prevent blacks from voting on Sunday right after church. So give it a try Sport. Go ahead and lecture blacks like me on how preventing us from voting on Sunday is good for us.

i_am_liberal on March 29, 2014 at 5:55 PM

So_In_other words: You don’t have answer.

(Wow , our troll quality is B_A_D)

CW on March 29, 2014 at 6:00 PM

I know in your world

i_am_idiot on March 29, 2014 at 5:55 PM

Tell us about the quadruple moons on your world.

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 6:00 PM

what they wanted to hear.

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 3:43 PM

And you say what you’re told. Not.Real.Bright.

CW on March 29, 2014 at 6:01 PM

Wrong again. His support was real. If you actually followed the campaign, you would know that conservatives were desperate for the “anti-Romney”. For a while, we thought that we had found him.

But in your narrow minded little world, any blacks who dare to think things different than what liberals tell them to think are either (your words) a “joke” or a “sleazeball”. You do not know your own bigotry, any more than water can know that it is wet. You are just so saturated in your own bigotry to see it for what it is.

SubmarineDoc on March 29, 2014 at 5:21 PM

I’m not saying his support wasn’t real. I’m saying it was stupid. And yes, I followed the campaign very closely.

tanked59 on March 29, 2014 at 5:48 PM

None of that negates the fact that no intimidated voters ever came forward. As far as the polling place incidents in 2008 and 2012, their only crime was being the kind fo scary black guys that conservatives like to frighten themselves with (and create race-based conspiracy theories around).

And if Thomas was such a sleazeball, why did Anita Hill continue to socialize with him after the two stopped working together?

Another quick question: how come it took your Democrats 3 decades after the Civil Rights Act to even run a black candidate for the US Senate? The Republicans successfully did so just a couple of years after LBJ signed that bill.

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 5:26 PM

Anita socialized because that what one does when one is more powerful than you are, and you’re both in the same game.

But me restate, in less inflammatory language: Democrats voted against Thomas because of the Anita Hill revelations. It was not race-based (which is the focus here, right?)

Your Senate question is irrelevant given that the vast majority of elected black elected officials since Reconstruction have been Democrats. How come Republicans won’t vote for black candidates?

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Anita socialized because that what one does when one is more powerful than you are, and you’re both in the same game.

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Heh. You’re so programmed.

CW on March 29, 2014 at 6:04 PM

I know in your world, most blacks are usually the takers on welfare and foodstamps. I know in your world it’s good to prevent blacks from voting on Sunday right after church. So give it a try Sport. Go ahead and lecture blacks like me on how preventing us from voting on Sunday is good for us.

i_am_liberal on March 29, 2014 at 5:55 PM

You don’t know crap about my world … obviously. Your main argument, if you can call it that, is that “poor” people can’t afford to get an ID. Well, apparently they can if they’re getting any state or federal assistance at all.

I also don’t care when you vote as long as you can prove who you are.

Why are you against ID’s to vote when everything else requires an ID?

Please respond to my other points as well … like naming the specific GOP policies that are “anti-minority”.

darwin on March 29, 2014 at 6:04 PM

I know in your world, most blacks are usually the takers on welfare and foodstamps. I know in your world it’s good to prevent blacks from voting on Sunday right after church. So give it a try Sport. Go ahead and lecture blacks like me on how preventing us from voting on Sunday is good for us.

i_am_liberal on March 29, 2014 at 5:55 PM

My goodness, the stupid racist seemed to run right away from this.

You do realize that, in order to collect welfare, hold a job, or drive a car, they have to have the very same ID as required to vote.

So what you’re admitting with your screams that black people don’t have ID is that they are a) driving illegally, b) collecting welfare illegally, or c) holding a job illegally.

Which is it, white liberal racist? Why don’t you answer that question for us, white liberal racist, and tell us what black people are doing illegally?

northdallasthirty on March 29, 2014 at 6:05 PM

I know in your world, most blacks are usually the takers on welfare and foodstamps.

i_am_troll on March 29, 2014 at 5:55 PM

35% of blacks as a percentage of race are on food stamps. That is over 3 times the white number. Only 11% of whites as a percentage of race get food stamps.

Don’t blame documented government statistics for those “racist” facts. That will only make us laugh at you even more.

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 6:05 PM

None of that negates the fact that no intimidated voters ever came forward. As far as the polling place incidents in 2008 and 2012, their only crime was being the kind fo scary black guys that conservatives like to frighten themselves with (and create race-based conspiracy theories around).

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Even that Conservative Jessie Jackson….

Even Jesse Jackson said a few years ago, “There is nothing more painful to me … than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”

CW on March 29, 2014 at 6:06 PM

Jackson quote from US News.

CW on March 29, 2014 at 6:06 PM

Here some music to lift the mood. Normally I might load Living In The Past. Today……. Because hare did not care!

Bmore on March 29, 2014 at 6:08 PM

As far as the polling place incidents in 2008 and 2012, their only crime was being the kind fo scary black guys that conservatives like to frighten themselves with (and create race-based conspiracy theories around).

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 6:02 PM

“Kind of scary black guys” that carried night sticks and are on record saying they want to kill white people and white babies.

darwin on March 29, 2014 at 6:11 PM

I’m not saying his support wasn’t real. I’m saying it was stupid. And yes, I followed the campaign very closely.

Of course. Racists like yourself are terrified of slave revolts, and thus have to destroy any successful black person who isn’t a welfare dependent.

We know the game, racist. You want all black children to grow up lazy and uneducated like Trayvon Martin and Rachel Jeantel. That’s why you demonize and call race traitors people like Dr. Ben Carson, Herman Cain, Condi Rice, JC Watts, Mia Love, and Raffi Williams.

None of that negates the fact that no intimidated voters ever came forward. As far as the polling place incidents in 2008 and 2012, their only crime was being the kind fo scary black guys that conservatives like to frighten themselves with (and create race-based conspiracy theories around).

Projection. Racist liberals like yourself are terrified of black people, which is why you live in white enclaves such as you’ve bragged about.

Meanwhile, the Black Panthers are criminals. You seem to want to ignore that. Why is that, racist? Why do you support and endorse criminal black people while you demonize and attack law-abiding successful ones like Dr. Ben Carson, Herman Cain, Condi Rice, JC Watts, Mia Love, and Raffi Williams?

Anita socialized because that what one does when one is more powerful than you are, and you’re both in the same game.

That’s odd; Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Bob Filner, and the other heroes of the Obama Party screamed that all women who claimed they were sexually harassed were liars and bimbos.

Go ahead, urban racist. Tell us again how that works. Maybe you can be honest and admit that you support rape and sexual molestation of women and children as long as it’s done by Obama supporters and that white liberal males like yourself can rape and sexually molest whatever you want.

But me restate, in less inflammatory language: Democrats voted against Thomas because of the Anita Hill revelations. It was not race-based (which is the focus here, right?)

Nope. Democrats voted against Thomas because Democrats are all racists who want black people as slaves and could not stand the thought of a black person who wasn’t their slave being on the Supreme Court. It was nothing but racism and hate, and you supported it, because you are a racist bigot.

Your Senate question is irrelevant given that the vast majority of elected black elected officials since Reconstruction have been Democrats. How come Republicans won’t vote for black candidates?

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 6:02 PM

Because Republicans vote based on qualifications and not skin color.

Democrats, as you admit, are racists who vote solely on the basis of skin color and ignore qualifications. Just like with Barack Obama, who is unqualified, incompetent, and stupid, but who is black and easily manipulated by white liberals.

northdallasthirty on March 29, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Of course, as we learned during the investigation after 2008 and in 2012, the New Black Panthers didn’t actually intimidate anyone in their virtually all-black precinct (believe me, if you live in a city, you see enough guys like them over time that even white people aren’t intimidated ) and some of the old ladies were pleased that the young men were there to protect their polling places.

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 5:09 PM

I think he’s saying “of course” because he thinks that’ll make his argument seem irrefutable.

vlad martel on March 29, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 5:26 PM

Anita socialized because that what one does when one is more powerful than you are, and you’re both in the same game.

But me restate, in less inflammatory language: Democrats voted against Thomas because of the Anita Hill revelations. It was not race-based (which is the focus here, right?)

Your Senate question is irrelevant given that the vast majority of elected black elected officials since Reconstruction have been Democrats. How come Republicans won’t vote for black candidates?

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 6:02 PM

LOL! Your first statement is rather sexist and misogynist, don’t you think? You’re claiming that Hill was being subservient.

Why did Hill stand silent for years before making her allegations?

As for your third statement, my question is in fact relevant. Why did the Republicans put a black in the Senate in 1966, but the Democrats decide to wait 3 decades?

And as for your final statement, I have three words for you. Republican Colin Powell.

And Powell had plenty of company.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_and_conservative_support_for_Barack_Obama_in_2008

Thanks again!

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2014 at 6:16 PM

Even that Conservative Jessie Jackson….

Even Jesse Jackson said a few years ago, “There is nothing more painful to me … than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”

CW on March 29, 2014 at 6:06 PM

And yet, still nothing on how the NBPs were intimidating anyone.

Heh. You’re so programmed.

CW on March 29, 2014 at 6:04 PM

I have been in Washington a long time and have been programmed to play the game — just as Anita did. Although, I doubt it’s unique to Washington.

Why are you against ID’s to vote when everything else requires an ID?

Please respond to my other points as well … like naming the specific GOP policies that are “anti-minority”.

darwin on March 29, 2014 at 6:04 PM

Just to be clear: this misses the point. The point is that these laws are clearly designed to reduce Democratic turnout. For whatever reason, key Democratic constituencies are less likely to have documentation, and Republicans recognize this and are using that fact to try to discourage otherwise legitimate voters from voting. Denying this insults our intelligence and forces us to question yours.

Why, for example, the attacks on early voting? On Sunday voting? Why did Florida erect significant legal barriers to the kind of registration drives mounted in college towns and minority neighborhoods?

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 6:16 PM

Looks like the perfesser is on Spring Break and test driving the new nic he set up during the last open reg…

fortcoins on March 29, 2014 at 6:20 PM

he point is that these laws are clearly designed to reduce Democratic turnout.

Same thing with “clearly.” It nice of you to provide this sort of commentary on your own faulty argumentation.

vlad martel on March 29, 2014 at 6:21 PM

I_am_liberal and I just got e-mails from Ed thanking us for taking a boring piece featuring a boring talking head and boosting it to 200 posts and into the left column!

If we get to 300, we get pizza.

urban elitist on March 29, 2014 at 6:21 PM

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