McCain: I want to name America’s new immigration reform law after Ted Kennedy

posted at 2:41 pm on March 28, 2014 by Allahpundit

A bon mot from his speech last night to the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, preserved for posterity on Twitter by Benny Johnson of BuzzFeed. It’s a testament to Maverick’s eagerness to pander to his audience that he’d say something like this, knowing that House Republicans are already nervous about how amnesty will be received by conservative voters. In fact, a right-wing friend mine of who works in politics saw Johnson’s tweet and assumed McCain must have been joking. Surely, with immigration reform already imperiled by righty opposition, a GOPer already loathed by tea partiers wouldn’t offer up the effort as a prayer to Teddy’s memory. Would he?

The “Ted Kennedy Immigration Reform Act of 2014″ has a nice, turnout-producing ring to it, don’t you think?

He was most definitely serious, says Johnson, although I could have told you that even without having been there. After all, for whatever strange reason, McCain has felt compelled to praise Kennedy before when trying to sell the Gang of Eight bill. January 28, 2013:

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) hailed the late Democratic Massachusetts Sen. Ted Kennedy on Monday as a bipartisan group of senators laid out new principles for comprehensive immigration reform — perhaps handing opponents a weapon.

Kennedy and McCain led the effort for broad-based immigration reform that failed nearly six years ago, and McCain said this new push was nearly the same.

“If we do succeed, and I think we will, it will be a testimonial to Ted Kennedy’s effort years ago that laid the groundwork for this agreement,” McCain said. “You will find that this agreement has very little difference from that of the legislation that was led by Sen. Kennedy some years go.”

He was right about that last part, at least. I guess McCain thought at the time it was his job to reassure the left that the dastardly Republicans who were part of the Gang of Eight wouldn’t try to gut the bill’s legalization provisions, but Chuck Schumer’s membership in the group would have been reassurance enough for them. Besides, from the very beginning it’s been clear that Democrats, not Republicans, would provide most of the support in Congress for the bill. Either McCain totally misjudged which voting bloc needed pandering to or he’s so contemptuous of conservatives that he found it more important to taunt them with a Kennedy reference than to try to win them over by deep-sixing rhetoric like that. Imagine: This is the guy whose political acumen we were trusting to stop the Hopenchange juggernaut in its tracks in 2008.

Well, no harm done. Obama’s going to solve Congress’s problem for them sooner or later. Probably sooner.


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You really seem to be hung up on this POW thing. Let’s put things in perspective:

1. Had McCain’s father and grandfather not been admirals, he probably never would have been admitted to Annapolis given his high school grades and temperament

2. Given his grades and conduct at Annapolis, he probably would have been dismissed had his father and grandfather not been admirals

3. He probably would have been removed from flight status after crashing his third plane had his father and grandfather not been admirals

4. Had McCain not been a reckless pilot and followed orders (rather than being a “maverick”), he might not have been shot down and spent five years in the Hanoi Hilton

5. Had McCain not have been a POW, he likely would have never married the beer baroness or been elected to Congress

6. Had McCain not been a POW, he likely would not have been the only member of the “Keating Five” to survive his congressional career and probably would have never been the GOP Presidential nominee.

bw222 on March 28, 2014 at 9:34 PM

The “POW thing”. Ok, There’s a book called “Defiant” by Alvin Townley that can better tell the story of what men like Jim Stockdale, Bud Day and Jeremiah Denton went through. It’s nothing to be scoffed at. That’s not what conservatives do. That’s what the other side does. We are better than that. We remember and re-affirm sacrifices like that. They shrug and think it’s somehow owed to them, besides, it was a long time ago. Right?

Let’s put things in perspective:

1) Lots of people get into college as legacies or through their parents influence. The Naval Academy usually isn’t their first choice because that means service.

2) Had the Naval Academy wanted him out, he would have been out.

3)Crashing his 3rd plane… the a4 that was hit by a zuni rocket on the deck of Forrestal? Here, at 3:29, the aircraft that it hit was the one McCain was about to launch in. You can see him climb out on the refueling probe and drop into the fire in the link. Had he been serious about using his fathers influence he could have gone home and milked that for all it was worth. Had he wanted to he could have left Vietnam soon after he got there because his father was an admiral, he didn’t .
My father was one of his grandfather’s pilots. When someone like Halsey would go charging after decoy fleets (Leyte Gulf) Slew McCain made sure that his men had at least a fighting chance of getting back to the carrier by launching close enough to the action so they could get back on deck before running the tanks dry. He and Jack, his son, who fought for victory in Vietnam despite the politicians who sought to lose it and held the Navy together after the defeat were Sailors before they were Admirals. These men were not fools, they wouldn’t insist on keeping a dangerous jackass in a position where he could wipe out a flight deck of sailors with one false move just because he shared their last name. They would have had him in a nice office in San Diego or Norfolk, especially because of his last name.

4) I would be fascinated by any legitimate information that you have that shows that McCain deviated substantively from he strike plan on the Hanoi thermal power plant. I would just love to know where you got that he disregarded orders and that somehow lead to him getting picked off on an incredibly dangerous mission on a target that was more heavily defended from airstrikes than wartime Berlin. Please.

5) ??? Even if that were true would it somehow make it OK? Jim Stiockdale probably wouldn’t have been a VP choice had he peeled potatoes in Earle New Jersey.

6) It didn’t end John Glenn’s career, he was the other senator cleared of impropriety.

Again, his immigration waffling is unacceptable. It’s a deal killer. He has promised one thing, backtracked on it, re-affirmed his promise, back to waffling.. McCain Finegold was stupid. It empowered the unions and the Soros foundations. He’s aggravating. He didn’t go for Obama’s throat when he had the chance, (Can’t use Jeremiah Wright, etc) which is his biggest crime against the country. That said, he would have been much better than the current leadership (not setting the bar all that high) and the vitriol of wishing him dead or back Nam getting tortured, well, it’s beneath who we are supposed to be.

V7_Sport on March 28, 2014 at 11:48 PM

McCain’s a complete and undisguised idiot. But he seems to relish his own idiocy. It’s like he’s perpetually on laughing gas, and so his brain is a little bit oxygen starved. I remember three days before the ’08 election, when he had had a bit of momentum, he inexplicably went on Saturday Night Live and did that skit where Tina Fey played the role of Sarah Palin, and Fey relentlessly mocked Palin. It was a travesty, but McCain seemed oblivious to everything and just doddered about as if on laughing gas as Tina Fey made a complete joke of his campaign. People like me were shaking their head, saying “what a complete goofball.” Yeah, his SNL fiasco shaved several points off his polls. And he lost by several points. The numbskull.

anotherJoe on March 28, 2014 at 11:49 PM

This idiot should have been kicked out of the GOP a long time ago.

WisCon on March 29, 2014 at 12:08 AM

Lindsey Graham would have been there & chimed in, but he’s up for re-election & has to pretend he’s a conservative.

Have you noticed talking about borders is passe?

Hey, McCain, give us a break & do the Arlen Specter thing.

Belle on March 29, 2014 at 12:23 AM

I mean can you imagine a prominent Democrat wanting to name a piece of legislation after a famous conservative Republican?

They would be excommunicated within minutes.

WisCon on March 29, 2014 at 12:26 AM

Hey, WisCon, maybe not anymore.
Recently I saw a quote from Obama, at Rome, praising Paul Ryan for talking about poverty (doesn’t hurt he’s pushing for amnesty big time).
What difference does it make? We’re a 1 party system now.

Belle on March 29, 2014 at 12:31 AM

Someone should pull his add from his last election where he was talking tough on illegals…while walking along the border. I guess he must have pulled an Obama and “evolved” his position a bit.

ScottiesRule on March 29, 2014 at 12:33 AM

Good idea, ScottiesRule. Hey, its just like Lindsey Graham. Here in SC we’re getting bombarded with TV ads as to how conservative he is. & I bet people are believe it, just like they did in AZ with McCain. There’s no way on this green earth I’d ever vote for him.
These politicians have proven time & again, they have no principles.
They stand for nothing.
& legislation is open to the highest bidder.

Belle on March 29, 2014 at 12:42 AM

Someone should pull his add from his last election where he was talking tough on illegals…while walking along the border. I guess he must have pulled an Obama and “evolved” his position a bit.

ScottiesRule on March 29, 2014 at 12:33 AM

McCain TV Ad: “Complete The Danged Fence”

David Blue on March 29, 2014 at 12:50 AM

So he wants to name the Chappaquiddick Immigration Reform Act After Ted Kennedy. OK I can go along with that. Call it the Dead On Arrival act.

Screw McCain and T Kennedy both.

McCain Hater on March 29, 2014 at 1:02 AM

This idiot has never seen a war he doesn’t want the U.S. in the middle of and wants to provide sophisticated weapons to Al Qaeda in Syria.

As much as I hate Obama, I hate McCain more.

bw222 on March 29, 2014 at 1:02 AM

“make nice with the Viet Cong” If by that you mean having his teeth kicked in and his arms broken so he can’t raise them above his chest to this day, well then, you are correct…”
V7_Sport on March 28, 2014 at 6:15 PM

His arms and other injuries were the result of his crash. He was separated from the rest of the POW’s and he was not respected or hailed as a hero by them upon their return home. He is no great pilot, no great senator, and he sure as hell is no hero!

Delsa on March 29, 2014 at 1:23 AM

He’s a fry short of a happy meal. In more ways than one.

bluesdoc70 on March 29, 2014 at 1:59 AM

Delsa==== Your spot on I have a friend who is gone now that was a pow, he claims McCain was well know and not liked. Now whether it was true or not I don’t know but I knew him and trusted him.

jainphx on March 29, 2014 at 2:36 AM

Name it after Kennedy?

Sure. How about the Wet Dream Act?

NoPain on March 29, 2014 at 3:34 AM

Delsa

His arms and other injuries were the result of his crash.

Some of them were, his arms and right leg were broken and set wrong, some of them were from when he was captured he was stabbed and had his shoulder broken, he had his arms and ribs re-broken during torture and his teeth knocked out at the gum line.

He was separated from the rest of the POW’s

For 2 years, in solitary confinement.

he was not respected or hailed as a hero by them

Bud Day campaigned for him during both presidential runs, so did Jeremiah Denton. This is what Jim Stockdale wrote about McCain:
–” I am not surprised by reports that Senator John McCain’s political enemies have been spreading rumors that his famous temper is a sign of a broader “instability” caused by his imprisonment in Vietnam.
In fact, a few weeks ago I received a call from an old friend who is also close to the George W. Bush campaign soliciting comments on Mr. McCain’s “weaknesses.” As I told that caller, I think John McCain is solid as a rock.
And I consider it blasphemy to smudge the straight-arrow prisoner-of-war record of a man who was near death when he arrived at Hoa Loa prison 1967: both arms broken, left leg broken, left shoulder broken by a civilian with a rifle butt.
He was eventually taken to the same rat-infested hospital room I had occupied two years earlier, and, like me, he had surgery on his leg. By then the Vietnamese had discovered that his father was the ranking admiral in the Pacific Fleet, and he received an offer that, as far as I know, was made to no other American prisoner: immediate release, no strings attached. He refused, thereby sentencing himself to four more years in a cell.
There was a special cramped and hot privy-like structure in that Hanoi prison reserved for whichever American was causing the Vietnamese the most trouble. I was the first in the camp to be locked up in it, and I gave it the name Calcutta.
There was only room for one person at a time in the cage, and after a couple of months I was taken out and marched back to a regular cell. As I limped along, I sneaked a peek at my replacement: John McCain, hobbling along on his own bad leg.”…

and he was not respected or hailed as a hero by them upon their return home

Did they confide this in you?

He is no great pilot…

Anyone who can land an aircraft on a ship.. at night… on a pitching deck… in the rain…

Delsa==== Your spot on I have a friend who is gone now that was a pow, he claims McCain was well know and not liked. Now whether it was true or not I don’t know but I knew him and trusted him.

jainphx on March 29, 2014 at 2:36 AM

Who was it? Maybe he’s on the Hỏa Lò Prison list. Maybe he knows better than 2 Medal of Honor recipients and someone awarded the Navy Cross.

V7_Sport on March 29, 2014 at 4:03 AM

Oh Goodie John. I suppose that means we’ll have to rename the “death panels” the “Chappaquiddick Bridge to the future” now.

Don L on March 29, 2014 at 6:40 AM

“Just build the dang fence.” – John McCain running for re-election.

“If we do succeed, and I think we will, it will be a testimonial to Ted Kennedy’s effort years ago that laid the groundwork for this agreement,” McCain said. “You will find that this agreement has very little difference from that of the legislation that was led by Sen. Kennedy some years go.” – John McCain in office

He had no intention on just building the dang fence.

National security does not begin with our military.

It begins with our borders.

He has lied about securing our borders.

He was in the last congress that passed an Amnesty and that congress swore, up and down, that they would get to border security RSN.

They had no intention of doing so, that is clear now.

Is it too much for Sen. McCain to keep his word as a Senator after the last Amnesty bill? He was in that congress.

Is it too much to ask of him to keep his campaign promise to build the fence and finally begin to make good on the word given by those who passed the last Amnesty?

Just when is one allowed to criticize a POW who went through horrors for his actions not in war, not in a prison facility, but as a man who has run for public office? If it shows great fortitude to get through horrific conditions as a POW, then is it so much to ask that he actually keep his word and work to secure the borders of this Nation from threat which is the exact reason he flew into hostile airspace and got shot down?

Is that so very much to ask?

This is the same fight, just in a different venue. And it doesn’t take a veteran or POW to see that, just some common sense.

ajacksonian on March 29, 2014 at 7:00 AM

First, there should be no doubt that McCain is not on the side of the people. Secondly, if invoking Kennedy can do the same thing for immigration as it’s done for health care, we’re all in trouble.

The best thing we can do for immigration is find a way to bring those illegally, out of the shadows, make it easy to apply for legal status and also have a way to refuse legal status, and the force employers to hire only those here legally. Finally, we need to have laws that are enforced, no matter what they are. The trick to having laws that are enforced, and the main ingredient should be, they have to be enforceable. Right now we have neither.

bflat879 on March 29, 2014 at 7:38 AM

And this is why we should primary our incumbents… every single election.

Karmashock on March 29, 2014 at 7:38 AM

It’s hard to fathom that this backstabber was our nominee for President. I’m not even sure he wouldn’t have been worse than Obama.

jpmn on March 29, 2014 at 7:58 AM

I read the remarks attributed to Obama and don’t, for a minute, believe that’s what he said. There were no uhmms, uhs, omms, or other grunt/groan noises that typically accompany everything he says when telepromterless. If his words were printed rather than the highly edited example included herein the American people (low information voters) would better know what a dolt this fellow is.

Robbin Hood on March 29, 2014 at 8:13 AM

V7_Sport on March 29, 2014 at 4:03 AM

He’s a f@%&ing liar.

DFCtomm on March 29, 2014 at 8:16 AM

McCain has become an old delusional soul who seems to have been overcome by senility. It can’t possibly be that he has always harbored these useless ideas all these years. Or can it be that he’s always been a closet liberal. Time for the voters in AZ to realize he will only harm them with his delusions.

regmgr on March 29, 2014 at 10:24 AM

V7_Sport on March 29, 2014 at 4:03 AM

4:03 AM. Boy, you are working 24/7 to defend this dishonest POS.

bw222 on March 29, 2014 at 10:25 AM

So what if McCain was a war hero 50 years ago? I can name quite a few war heroes who later turned outright traitor on behalf of foreign enemies, engaged in outright rebellion, or aligned themselves politically the anti-American American left.

kd6rxl on March 29, 2014 at 10:28 AM

McCain believes his own press.
Any other Navy pilot in training who lost two planes would have washed out of the program. Finishing near the bottom of his graduating class at the Naval Academy did not earn him a spot in Pensacola for flight training. (daddy and grand daddy)

As a POW he wrote and signed a confession stating he committed war crimes against the Vietnamese after which his fellow POW’s were treated to unspeakable torture for not following the great man’s
lead. McCain was separated from the other for his own safety.
McCain is and has always been dishonest. He said he broke because he had been tortured. I guess he was the only one who suffered at the hands of his captures? NO he was just the Hanoi Jane of the Camp!

He grew up thinking he was owed something. He didn’t have to work hard or play by the rules. When he F’d up someone pulled his butt out of the fire. Keating 5 Lincoln Saving and Loan scandal he survived (by turning on the other 4) typical McCain, who knew?
Some can continue to cover his true story up but it just won’t work.
There are those of us who know his truth.
The POW’s who returned with him were honorable men and unlike McCain, they never turned on their fellow prisoners.
McCain will go to his grave believing his press. He will, however, never rest in peace!

Delsa on March 29, 2014 at 11:22 AM

Anyone who can land an aircraft on a ship.. at night… on a pitching deck… in the rain…

V7_Sport on March 29, 2014 at 4:03 AM

… in the snow … uphill … both ways …

But I forget, you where there, right? I see you demanding this kind of personal first-hand experience of others (no anecdotal evidence or stories will suffice, you see) in this thread, so I presume you were on that deck, at night, in the rain, and witnessed McCain landing it, yes?

And in the end… so f*cking what?

Yes, he was a pilot, and widely reported, not a very good one. But so what?

Yes, he was a POW, and has accrued much respect and plaudits as a result. But so what?

He has spent most of the years since then being an abject and pitiful failure of a politician at best. It would be nice to simply state that he’s been a thorn in the side of the Republican party for that entirety, causing more harm than good. And a fair case can be made that he is a traitor to his party, undermining his country, siding with terrorists (intentionally or simply ignorantly), and without a doubt, causing harm to the attempts by his party and conservatives in particular to try to right the ship of state.

At this point, he’s a waste of oxygen, and I will not wish him dead, but I wish we’d never hear from nor see him again. Ever.

The country would undoubtedly be the better for it.

Midas on March 29, 2014 at 11:23 AM

So what if McCain was a war hero 50 years ago? I can name quite a few war heroes who later turned outright traitor on behalf of foreign enemies, engaged in outright rebellion, or aligned themselves politically the anti-American American left.

kd6rxl on March 29, 2014 at 10:28 AM

The name Benedict Arnold immediately jumps to mind.

bw222 on March 29, 2014 at 11:25 AM

The “I’ll have a double” Immigration Bill. The “Fill ‘er up” Immigration Bill… or maybe the ever popular Chappy Immigration Bill.

rhombus on March 29, 2014 at 12:11 PM

So what happened in 1967 is important, but what happened in 1969 isn’t.
 
Neat.

rogerb on March 29, 2014 at 12:52 PM

I mean can you imagine a prominent Democrat wanting to name a piece of legislation after a famous conservative Republican?

They would be excommunicated within minutes.

WisCon on March 29, 2014 at 12:26 AM

If they could name it RonaldReaganCare right now, they would. Or just wait until the GeorgeWBushAlternativeMinimumTaxFairnessAct.

MrKleenexMuscles on March 29, 2014 at 1:48 PM

DEAD TED

Lee Jan on March 29, 2014 at 3:12 PM

Pathetic. A murderer supported by a soldier. Just awful.

McCain is one of the main reasons our republican party has factions. It’s time for some of the pre-1994 guard to say, “It’s been a wonderful ride. But I’m turning over the reins to the newer generation.”

MN J on March 29, 2014 at 3:45 PM

Makes me sorry he ever made it back from Vietnam. He is so Un-American and to prove it it he wants to destroy the makeup of the country with a new law which is not needed.

Nat George on March 29, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Anyone who can land an aircraft on a ship.. at night… on a pitching deck… in the rain…

V7_Sport on March 29, 2014 at 4:03 AM

… in the snow … uphill … both ways …

Something else youwouldn’t understand. How’s that voting for democrats to hasten the end of the republic project going?

Yes, he was a pilot, and widely reported, not a very good one.

Where are you getting your reporting? Kos again?

V7_Sport on March 29, 2014 at 4:18 PM

McCain and Kennedy. Now that’s what you could call an idiot sandwich.
:D

The Evil Doctor K on March 29, 2014 at 5:20 PM

McCain’s pander switch is stuck on the “on” position. He doesn’t know that the leftists he’s working with were never Kennedy supporters and that the low-information community-organizing vote-fraudsters have long forgotten the drunken, waddling senator from Massachusetts with the weird colonial accent.

virgo on March 30, 2014 at 1:19 PM

Yes, he was a pilot, and widely reported, not a very good one.

Where are you getting your reporting? Kos again?

V7_Sport on March 29, 2014 at 4:18 PM

No, it’s called history, and fact. You might look into it sometime, f*ckwit.

And I see you skirted being called on the carpet for making your *own* shit up about what a great pilot he was, rather than substantiating it. Then have the hairless nuts to again demand sources from someone else?

F*ck you. F*ck. You.

Sell your establishment McCain-sucking shit elsewhere.

Midas on March 30, 2014 at 7:03 PM

Midas on March 30, 2014 at 7:03 PM

No, it’s called history, and fact. You might look into it sometime, f*ckwit.

You have, exactly -no- idea about what you are talking about. You can only regurgitate what you have seen on the far left websites. He was in the Saints, (VA-163) one of the most storied attack squadrons of the war, their strike on Haiphong harbor is still studied today.

And I see you skirted being called on the carpet for making your *own* shit up about what a great pilot he was, rather than substantiating it.

Called on the carpet? I am embarrassed for you. I actually am a pilot so I have SOME metric on which to judge. You are, again, regurgitating the BS propaganda that was floating around the the democratic underground and Kos…. Tell me about the “wet start” that started the fire on Forrestal next, as if the USN lined up the tailpipes with other aircraft on deck, as if they were blind imbeciles. To believe such nonsense displays the kind of profound ignorance that’s makes people cringe. To spread it, well, that’s just you.

Then have the hairless nuts to again demand sources from someone else?

I know where you got it, Moby, same place you got the idea to vote democrats to teach the GOP a lesson or something.

F*ck you. F*ck. You.

You are 12, aren’t you? Living in a doublewide, no idea where your father is. That about sum it up?

Sell your establishment McCain-sucking shit elsewhere.

Sell your Kos psyco-babble elsewhere, classless idiot.

V7_Sport on March 31, 2014 at 1:21 AM

Still waiting for the nuanced clarification of how voting/supporting a RINO like Guano McVain is better than

How’s that voting for democrats to hasten the end of the republic project going?

V7_Sport on March 29, 2014 at 4:18 PM

Bless his heart forever waving the team banner.

Methinks tis better that progresive donks be behind the wheel all the way thru and thru than for a RINO to take a spell at driving and further assist the said libturds in accomplishing total destruction of constitution and self-determination of the individual lest the conclusion drawn be that conservative principles don’t work in a global economy.

A distinction lost on the LIV because republican principles truly does not equate with conservative principles, but when republicans bear the conservative banner, that’s all LIVs see. All the more so when republicans vilify the conservatives.

If you can give a good reason as to why bat quano deserves continued support along with a dose of rebuke, I’ll consider it, but if all you can do is scold me and call me traitor, then you have no point to make beside “Rah! Rah! Go Red”

AH_C on March 31, 2014 at 5:46 PM

Still waiting for the nuanced clarification of how voting/supporting a RINO like Guano McVain is better than…

Cut and paste from the last time:
American politics isn’t like a chess game where you can sacrifice a pawn and a knight to capture their queen and win the game. American politics is more like football. You are either gaining yards or you are losing yards and someone shaky on the line is better than no one at all. We would all love to have a team of gigantic, merciless gorillas who live to stomp the quivering guts out of the socialists and moonwalk in the end zone while spiking their skulls: But you have to get them elected. As it stands now you have a few capable players on the team being driven into the dirt by a legion of pajama boys.
Electing [democrats] just ensures that you will have someone in office who will write your concerns off as racist, bitter gun clinging and given the advantages of incumbency, [they] might be there for decades.

Methinks tis better that progresive donks be behind the wheel all the way thru and thru than for a RINO to take a spell at driving and further assist the said libturds in accomplishing total destruction…

Cut and paste:
It’s amazing that after the incredible amount of damage they have been allowed to cause this still isn’t glaringly obvious. We aren’t rebuilding anything by empowering Harry Reid for another election cycle. Indeed, I’ve been promised since 2008 that once we went through Carter (Obama) we would get to Reagan (???) again. Where’s Reagan? What’s been “rebuilt”? What has happened is that this country has taken a preventable gut punch that will take decades to pay for.
I have no doubt that the idea that you gain influence over the political landscape by losing elections or staying at home originated at some DC PR agency. I also have no doubt that it was sold here and on other conservative sites to help elect democrats. (They were laughing about it at the democratic underground site) The thing I find personally infuriating is that it’s been needless and that mostly good people have been persuaded or rationalized that it was right or good to do the wrong thing for the country for what they saw as the right reasons. It was very effective at tapping into the anger and frustration that comes with being who we are as people who produce and preserve. However: Once you join those who are willing to just tear down to gain influence over the rubble, even if you think it’s for the right reason, you are doing the wrong thing for the legacy that’s been given to you and for yourself in purely practical terms. The last 2 presidential elections and the events that have come about because of them have proven that, conclusively, beyond any reasonable doubt.

If you can give a good reason as to why bat quano deserves continued support…

If by “bat guano” (OK, why bat guano?) you mean John McCain then I think he should retire. He’s stayed far too long and his support for legalizing broad swaths of illegal immigrants is unacceptable.
I think, as I have said from our first interaction, that you should follow the Buckley rule. If there is a more conservative candidate who is electable then hop on board. I really want Harry Reid out though, he is the worst in the government. One of the worst in American history.

V7_Sport on March 31, 2014 at 9:41 PM

How about naming it “The Waitress Sandwich” bill or “Make It A Triple” bill. What a sad piece of human waste.

lperello on April 1, 2014 at 1:29 PM

Could anyone tell me just how ignorant the people of Arizona are? Why would they vote for this idiot who hates American. His only achievement before getting his plane shot down do to lack of ability was being the son of a military man who loved his country unlike his American hating son.

pwb on April 1, 2014 at 2:01 PM

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