Video: US Senator finds a Supreme Court review of regulation “stunning,” or something

posted at 12:01 pm on March 26, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Maybe Bruce Braley did have a point after all. Yesterday, as the Supreme Court conducted a review of regulation promulgated under the auspices of a massively intrusive law passed by Congress creating the first-ever peacetime federal command economy in American history, Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) found it “stunning” that “nine people are going to make the decision” on whether religious liberty will trump the Department of Health and Human Services’ mandate to solve a non-issue. Apparently, the lawmaker has little familiarity with the legal process and the right to challenges laws and regulation. Of course, she’s never been to law school, so …

“I’ve worked hard to make sure that women have access to the right kinds of health care, and it’s their choice, not their employer’s choice,” Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.) told MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell on Tuesday.

“Sitting in that court today, it was stunning to me to recognize that nine people are going to make that decision — and will decide for a long time to come — whether women have to question when they go to work every day what the shareholders of that company’s religious views could be.”

Well, that problem wouldn’t exist had Congress not given HHS the power to mandate that employers provide specific products and services to their employees in the first place. Prior to the passage of ObamaCare, most employers already provided some form of health insurance to their employees, and most of those already covered birth control, albeit with co-pays. Those employers who object to abortifacients found other health plans, but that doesn’t prevent men and women from acquiring birth control of their own volition — or finding other work based on competitive compensation packages, for that matter. This became an issue only when Democrats forced the creation and participation of a command economy in health insurance and gave bureaucrats the power to issue regulations such as the HHS contraception mandate, for no rational reason except as political demagoguery.

National Journal notes the same point in a different context:

Another reason companies will likely continue offering coverage? They historically have.

In 2010, 85 percent of companies with more than 200 employees were offering contraceptive coverage, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation’s Employer Health Benefits Survey. In 2002, the number of large employers covering contraception was 78 percent. (The amount employees had to contribute to contraception, such as the birth-control pill, in co-pays or other cost-sharing wasn’t measured by the survey, although the Affordable Care Act now makes the pill and other contraceptives available at no cost.)

In other words, there was no compelling state interest in the first place, especially since the CDC’s own data showed no indications that access to contraception was a problem at all for women attempting to prevent pregnancy.

By the way, it wasn’t just those nine justices looking at ObamaCare yesterday. The DC Circuit Court took up the origination clause challenge yesterday, and at least two of the justices were less than impressed with the law (via the Lonely Conservative):

One judge called the Obamacare rollout an “unmitigated disaster” and said the administration is stretching to try to cover up for how poorly the law was written.

“I know there’s an absurdity principle, but is there a stupidity principle?” said Judge A. Raymond Randolph. “If the law is just stupid, I don’t think it’s up to the court to save it.”

I’m sure Senator Murray finds Congressional absurdity and stupidity “stunning,” too. The rest of us … not so much.


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The Constitution trumps your liberal agenda dumbarse.

F_This on March 26, 2014 at 2:10 PM

So, this is the best that Washington State can offer as a leader. I would expect this from New York, but Washington State? I guess the smoke from Mt. St. Helena must have had more of an affect on the cognitive process than earlier thought.

DDay on March 26, 2014 at 2:29 PM

…although the Affordable Care Act now makes the pill and other contraceptives available at no cost.

At no cost? It cost somebody something! There are just TOO many idiots.

JeffPBlues on March 26, 2014 at 2:32 PM

There is a rationale to Murray’s statement and Mitchell’s agreement. It is that government should be able to dictate whatever it wants and everyone should have to obey.

It’s an easy step for Progressives to say that employers should not be able set wages, promote based on merit, choose who to hire, fire people for not performing, set work rules and work conditions, price products/services to optimize profits, or decide which benefits to offer employees. In the Progressive minds, all of the decisions about running a business should be made by enlightened bureaucrats and politicians.

Call it Big Brother, call it Communism, call it whatever you want, it is the credo of the current Democratic Party and their media allies.

pilsener on March 26, 2014 at 2:33 PM

I understand that she does not have a law degree but how about grade school – did she graduate from grade school?

12th Legion on March 26, 2014 at 2:37 PM

Of course, she’s never been to law school, so …

Careful, the left was making that argument about Grassley very recently. Consistency counts.

PatHenry on March 26, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Patty Murray(D) points out Osama Bin Laden provided free birth control to all his day care centers

DANEgerus on March 26, 2014 at 2:58 PM

Is Sen. Murray completely unaware that the right to abortion (which she supports, I’m sure) was decided on by nine people? What is stunning is that anyone could be that clueless.

ajb3 on March 26, 2014 at 3:04 PM

So, this is the best that Washington State can offer as a leader. I would expect this from New York, but Washington State? I guess the smoke from Mt. St. Helena must have had more of an affect on the cognitive process than earlier thought.

DDay on March 26, 2014 at 2:29 PM

WA has about 6M people right now. The greater Seattle area has half of them. In WA, the tail wags the dog.

OccamsRazor on March 26, 2014 at 3:04 PM

I must virulently disagree!

Patty Murray is not Intelligent enough to be an Idiot.

jaydee_007 on March 26, 2014 at 1:33 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjWYHeg8_5I

ajb3 on March 26, 2014 at 3:06 PM

The stupidest person in the Senate – just staking her claim to preempt any challengers.

Jaibones on March 26, 2014 at 3:07 PM

“I’ve worked hard to make sure that women have access to the right kinds of health care, and it’s their choice, not their employer’s choice,” Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.)

Yep, “It’s their choice, not their employer’s choice.” Just like it’s my choice, not my employer’s choice on which charities I give to. Just like it’s my choice, not my employer’s choice, what car I purchase. Just like it’s my choice, not my employer’s choice, what delivery service I use when I ship a present to my niece.

But you know what? If I want to give to a charity through my employer’s United Way connection, then my choices are limited. If I want to buy a car with an employee discount, then I have to choose a dealer and brand that accept the discount. The same goes for my choice of delivery service if I want an employee discount.

That doesn’t mean that my access to services or goods not covered by United Way or an employee discount are restricted. It just means I’ll have to pay retail to get them.

BTW, what are the “right kinds of health care” anyway?

yaedon on March 26, 2014 at 3:11 PM

What’s incredible is that Murray thinks we should sacrifice the Constitution so that women get free abortificants. Isn’t that the most stunning thing about this whole mess?

The fact no one in the press calls her out on this is second most shocking, but, then again, we obviously have a propaganda machine and not a free press. That Candy Crowley is still employed is exhibit A in that argument.

MTF on March 26, 2014 at 3:11 PM

WA has about 6M people right now. The greater Seattle area has half of them. In WA, the tail wags the dog.

OccamsRazor on March 26, 2014 at 3:04 PM

Same as Illinois, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Florida, Missouri, Wisconsin, Arizona, hell even Californicate to some degree.

City = 75% liberal. Rural = 75% conservative.

Jaibones on March 26, 2014 at 3:12 PM

I’ve often thought that Patty Murray may be the stupidest person in the U.S. Senate. It’s always a close race, but she’s quite stupid.

jaime on March 26, 2014 at 3:14 PM

I must virulently disagree!

Patty Murray is not Intelligent enough to be an Idiot.

jaydee_007 on March 26, 2014 at 1:33 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjWYHeg8_5I

ajb3 on March 26, 2014 at 3:06 PM

Now THAT’s funny! Gotta love Monty Python. Oh, and jaydee is still correct: Patty Murray is not Intelligent enough to be an Idiot.

yaedon on March 26, 2014 at 3:18 PM

God, she’s one ugly broad.

lostmotherland on February 26, 2014 at 4:09 PM

I have to agree with lostmofo on this one.

slickwillie2001 on March 26, 2014 at 3:19 PM

God, she’s one ugly broad.

lostmotherland on February 26, 2014 at 4:09 PM

I have to agree with lostmofo on this one.

slickwillie2001 on March 26, 2014 at 3:19 PM

Even ugly enough to be on the Supreme Court which apparently is a pre-requisite.
She’d give Sotomayor and Klagen a run for their money

Buttercup on March 26, 2014 at 3:27 PM

I weep for my state on account of it’s electoral tolerance for that woman. Cantwell is just as bad politically, but at least she has enough brain cells left to rub a few together to make some smoke.

sumpnz on March 26, 2014 at 3:27 PM

This Senator reminds me of a saying we used to have when St. Helens blew. ” Good news is that Washington found a Virgin to sacrifice in the volcano, bad news is that now they don’t have a Governor. “

Whiterock on March 26, 2014 at 3:30 PM

If women ever want to be treated equally to men, they have to stop playing the victim, and special interest, cards. I would say that the Democrats “war on women” strategy is an insult to women’s intelligence, but I guess that I’d be wrong. Otherwise, they wouldn’t do it.

cajunpatriot on March 26, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Patty Murray(D) points out Osama Bin Laden provided free birth control to all his day care centers

DANEgerus on March 26, 2014 at 2:58 PM

Wonder how she knows that as a fact. Did he cut off men’s heads, so to speak?

Wade on March 26, 2014 at 3:49 PM

If women ever want to be treated equally to men, they have to stop playing the victim, and special interest, cards. I would say that the Democrats “war on women” strategy is an insult to women’s intelligence, but I guess that I’d be wrong. Otherwise, they wouldn’t do it.

cajunpatriot on March 26, 2014 at 3:36 PM

For capital punishment would these femaNazi’s want to hung like a man?

Wade on March 26, 2014 at 3:53 PM

the smoke from Mt. St. Helenas

DDay on March 26, 2014 at 2:29 PM

FIFY

85 percent of companies with more than 200 employees were offering contraceptive coverage

Remember that some of that is coming from state mandates, however. And, for health ‘insurers’ that cover multiple states, it was often easier to include it everywhere if a single state mandated it.

And, then there’s the issue of why almost none of those coverages took care of a man’s contraceptives. As far as I know, 0Care still doesn’t.

GWB on March 26, 2014 at 3:55 PM

Murray is a legitimate contender for the dumbest person in Congress – although strongly challenged by Barbara Mikulski, Sheila Jackson-Lee (already perennial winner of the Worst to Work For), and Barbara Boxer – and you will never see her talking for long without notes or someone there to interrupt her.

She’s a complete idiot. She claimed after 9/11, when bin Laden was thought to be hiding in the caves of Tora Bora, that he was loved by the people for “building schools and roads.” Of course, he built no such thing, anywhere.

Patty’s big campaign in her first election was that she was “The Mom in Tennis Shoes.” That was pretty much it. Washington decided to send the dumbest cluck they could find to the Senate, and keep reelecting her since.

Adjoran on March 26, 2014 at 3:56 PM

Patty’s big campaign in her first election was that she was “The Mom in Tennis Shoes.” That was pretty much it. Washington decided to send the dumbest cluck they could find to the Senate, and keep reelecting her since.

Adjoran on March 26, 2014 at 3:56 PM

She is a little light in her shoes.

Wade on March 26, 2014 at 3:59 PM

BTW, what are the “right kinds of health care” anyway?

yaedon on March 26, 2014 at 3:11 PM

Abortion. Because it frees women, or something.

GWB on March 26, 2014 at 4:04 PM

I look at her and think, “She looks like a moron. Is she a moron…?” Then she opens her mouth and all doubt vanishes.

Akzed on March 26, 2014 at 4:12 PM

In re all the comments about the low IQ level of Democrats in Congress: would we really prefer that they were smart enough to actually accomplish their full agenda?*
So long as they keep shooting off their mouths and shooting themselves in the foot, there may still be hope.

But see Jim Geraghty’s piece in the Headlines – their voters simply don’t care about their ability (or lack thereof) so long as they support the Left’s legislation.

* In re Congressional CINOs, the same comments apply.

AesopFan on March 26, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Sounds like she climbed out of that mud slide in here state. Completely nuts.

txdoc on March 26, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Washington decided to send the dumbest cluck they could find to the Senate, and keep reelecting her since.

Adjoran on March 26, 2014 at 3:56 PM

She’s nowhere near being the dumbest chick in Washington state. Dumb, yes, but not the dumbest. We excel in dumb.

Do it my way, says Sawant

Soon after, when Boeing’s aerospace machinists faced a vote on contract concessions demanded by management, Sawant told a cheering rally: “The workers should take over the factories and shut down Boeing’s profit-making machine . . . We can retool the machines to produce mass transit like buses instead of destructive, you know, war machines.”

The new generation Boeing 777 will, of course, be a commercial passenger jetliner.

Sawant has insisted that she represents and stands for just one segment of the city’s population — “the working class” — and that business and “the rich” should be made to pay.

“The best path is to tax the rich and big business to ensure that human services are fully funded and the employees of micro businesses and human non-profits also get a full $15 an hour,” she said Wednesday.

kcewa on March 26, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Sen. Patty Murray, who knows only one thing – how to repeat the Democratic party line.

sadatoni on March 26, 2014 at 4:15 PM

With regards to “access to contraception”: Seriously? WTF is stopping people from going to Walgreens/CVS/RiteAid/Gas Station and buying a pack of condoms?

JimLennon on March 26, 2014 at 5:01 PM

This Idiot is just another scum of the earth lowlife Liberal who got her PHD from the University of STUPID.

tmgrant on March 26, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) found it “stunning” that “nine people are going to make the decision” on whether religious liberty will trump the Department of Health and Human Services’ mandate to solve a non-issue.

Didn’t nine people decide that killing babies in the womb was built right into the US Constitution?

(Strange how nobody ever noticed it before….)

There Goes the Neighborhood on March 26, 2014 at 5:15 PM

“I know there’s an absurdity principle, but is there a stupidity principle?” Only when dealing with you…

golfer1 on March 26, 2014 at 5:26 PM

Clearly Ms. Murray is an idiot…

So, why did she get elected to the Senate?

Doesn’t say much for the electorate there.

HBowmanMD on March 26, 2014 at 5:41 PM

“I know there’s an absurdity principle, but is there a stupidity principle?” said Judge A. Raymond Randolph. “If the law is just stupid, I don’t think it’s up to the court to save it.”

Too bad Judge Randolph wasn’t the Chief Justice when the constitutionality of the ACA mandate was before the court.

Nomas on March 26, 2014 at 5:42 PM

Adjoran on March 26, 2014 at 3:56 PM
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5 years later and still the same.
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http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/15/sen-patty-murrays-worthless-stimulus-earmark/

diogenes on March 26, 2014 at 5:43 PM

I have shoes in my closet that are smarter than Patty Murray.
Good God, is that the best that Washington state can do?

Next time elect a bag full of hammers, or something.
Far less likely to say something idiotic.

orangemtl on March 26, 2014 at 5:59 PM

Isn’t this reprobate from a legal mj state?

Murphy9 on March 26, 2014 at 6:12 PM

WA has about 6M people right now. The greater Seattle area has half of them. In WA, the tail wags the dog.

OccamsRazor on March 26, 2014 at 3:04 PM

It appears that this is becoming all to common in Democratic controlled states.

DDay on March 26, 2014 at 6:16 PM

This is, after all, Patty Murray we’re talking about.
Stupidity doesn’t have a chance in covering it.

Another Drew on March 26, 2014 at 6:20 PM

She’s not an Iowa farmer is she? We know they don’t know much about the law and stuff. Of course, in the budget debate, she did run rings around Paul Ryan and the Republicans so she can’t be all that stupid.

bflat879 on March 26, 2014 at 7:49 PM

To be fair, Patty Murray is to stupidity what Isaac Newton was to gravity.

Ray Van Dune on March 26, 2014 at 8:06 PM

You all can write her an email and tell her what you’re thinking. I did. :)

avagreen on March 26, 2014 at 8:11 PM

Patty Murray needs to be aborted, since it is the best interest of ‘womens’ health’ to allow abortion at any stage of development and, since she never cognitively developed beyond the third trimester…

vnvet on March 26, 2014 at 8:11 PM

This is the Face of Stupidity in America.

ToddPA on March 26, 2014 at 8:21 PM

Isn’t this reprobate from a legal mj state?
Murphy9 on March 26, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Are you in a state where alcohol is legally for sale?

Hic!

Akzed on March 26, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Are you in a state where alcohol is legally for sale?
Hic!
Akzed on March 26, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Yep. We got McCaskill. :(

Murphy9 on March 26, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Democrats are so stupid, it’s almost beyond belief.

oldennis on March 26, 2014 at 8:42 PM

This is the Face of Stupidity in America.

ToddPA on March 26, 2014 at 8:21 PM

ToddPA gets my vote on account of best phrasing for an idea that all seem to share. Nicely done.

Jaibones on March 26, 2014 at 9:22 PM

The MSM has succeeded in giving us a government based on the principles of “Oprah”, “The View” and “Entertainment Tonight”

And IMO we’re swirling the bowl.

bluesdoc70 on March 26, 2014 at 9:54 PM

It is people like this woman that make me think that it is too late to save this country.

Theophile on March 27, 2014 at 3:10 AM

She sure is…….mmmmmm……..BOSSY.

and really really unattractive.

PappyD61 on March 27, 2014 at 8:03 AM

One word…IDIOT! Does she not know history. America was founded because people traveled to the new world to escape religious persecution! There is also The Constitution. Vote her out of office. Jezzzzz

karlinsync on March 27, 2014 at 9:43 AM

Patty Murray is a case study which supports my theory that some people are EXILED to congress…rather than “elected” in the traditional sense.

These people are so undesirable as neighbors that their constituents will do anything to get rid of them. And one of the easiest ways to get rid of them is to send them to Washington DC, where they will be humanely treated and allowed to play with others of their own kind…and they will rarely return home.

landlines on March 27, 2014 at 10:53 AM

I find it stunning that Patty Murray remembers to breathe! It really sucks having her as a Senator. WA is one screwed up state! :(

ihasurnominashun on March 27, 2014 at 11:04 AM

I bet she didn’t have a problem with those 9 people making abortion legal or those 9 people saying that the Obama Care individual mandate was a tax therefor legal.

crash1211 on March 27, 2014 at 11:22 AM

How about a women walking to a drug store and purchasing condoms and other meds. Get a prescription from your doctor for contraceptive pills. Dear me, if you are dumb enough to spread your legs for whatever reason, then see your doctor about tying your tubes or removing your uterus for permanent contraception. This supposed Congress female is so dumb, it must be because those who elected her are even dumber. Best of all, females, just keep your legs closed and get some morals, ethics, etc. for a real life style change. We see no need to feed your fantasies and lack of morals since you can spend a mere few dollars and take care of yourself.

Roselle on March 27, 2014 at 11:29 AM

I understand that she does not have a law degree but how about grade school – did she graduate from grade school?

12th Legion on March 26, 2014 at 2:37 PM

Of course, she’s never been to law school, so …

Careful, the left was making that argument about Grassley very recently. Consistency counts.

PatHenry on March 26, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Having listened to her talk a few times, my guess would be that she has the most persistent case of stage-fright ever, or there may have been some “social promotion” along the way.

She has a B.A. in physical education from Washington State University, and thereafter she was a preschool teacher. For a few years, she taught a “parenting class” at a community college.

There is no basis for any comparison with Chuck Grassley. The man handled a few tough blue collar jobs back in the ’50s while working his way through college, earning both a B.A and an M.A, and he completed much of the coursework toward a Ph.D. in political science.

Trochilus on March 27, 2014 at 12:39 PM

Do Democrats not understand the ‘Nation of Laws’ concept?

Maybe they do understand it, but they don’t seem to believe it is a good idea when they are in the majority.

s1im on March 28, 2014 at 9:35 PM

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