Democratic pollster warns Senate Dems on ObamaCare: Don’t defend it

posted at 6:41 pm on March 25, 2014 by Allahpundit

A tasty morsel from Paul Bedard — although the only reason this is filed under “news” rather than “duh” is because lefty pundits continue to float CW-defying “Democrats should run on ObamaCare” pieces sporadically whenever a new round of bad polls come out and they get the jitters. (These same people will be writing “scrap ObamaCare and embrace single-payer” pieces starting the day after election day.) Whenever they do, I imagine a bunch of Republican campaign honchos circa 2006 trying to talk themselves into running on the Iraq war. It’s the only thing they haven’t tried! The war will become popular again, it just … hasn’t been sold correctly yet. It’s so crazy it just. might. work.

Not going to work, says Celinda Lake.

“In terms of Obamacare, don’t defend it, say it was flawed from the beginning, and we’re going to fix it,” said Lake at a poll briefing hosted by the Christian Science Monitor.

But, she added, it is key for Democrats to also stick to their historic approach of looking out for the little guy when it comes to health care. “Say,” she added, “we’re not going to go back to the days of leaving you on your own with the insurance companies.”

Lake said the approach has several positives for Democrats. Namely, she said polling shows that most voters “want to fix it rather than start all over again.” She said women are especially “exhausted” by the drawn out fights over Obamacare.

The Republican half of the Battleground Poll, Ed Goeas of the Tarrance Group, however said that Obamacare will still be a noose around the neck of Democrats because it is “symbolic” of the party’s big government approach.

What’s the alternative to doing it Lake’s way? If you’re a Democrat, you can’t run against the law full bore; there’s too much soundbite material there for the GOP to use against the rest of the party and it’s too grave an admission of misjudgment on your own part. If Mary Landrieu was too stupid not to oppose a paradigm-shifting boondoggle when she had the chance in 2010, she’s too stupid to go back to the Senate. So now she has to muddle through with some “mend it, don’t end it” nonsense about how the law’s principles were and are sound — preexisting conditions, subsidies, all the treats that people like — but that more needs to be done to bring costs down. You need Democrats in control to protect the good stuff while stripping out the bad; the GOP’s repeal effort will do nothing but restore the status quo. Every Democrat in the country who’s running in a purple district will take this line. There’s really no other choice. But having a respected Democratic pollster formally declare that it’s time to forget about defending the law as-is when we’re less than a week from the final enrollment deadline seems nonetheless significant. The poll watchers are prepared to admit political defeat even if the White House isn’t. Although, really, the White House already has.

Speaking of defeat, take a look at the table Harry Enten put together over at Nate Silver’s new site. Going back more than 75 years, only once has the party that controls the presidency at the time seen its generic ballot numbers improve between spring of a midterm election year and election day. The numbers almost always decline — suggesting that Democrats may become more, not less, vulnerable to a Senate takeover as 2014 wears on. There may be only one thing that can save their majority now. Yep, you guessed it: Drugs. Think about that while you marvel at the political know-how of one of the country’s most prized swing groups. Via the MRC:


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Ah, I say, “Go ahead!” Debbie downer, but she will be elected by those low info voters and the lib Jews who will vote for anything as long as it’s for 0bama!

Bambi on March 25, 2014 at 6:47 PM

So their prescription is to follow the Alex Sink playbook? Yeah, sure, that’ll work.

Caiwyn on March 25, 2014 at 6:47 PM

“I stay out of politics.”
“That’s probably good.”

Flange on March 25, 2014 at 6:48 PM

First either sedate the pig or get several people to hold it down, rub lipstick of choice around lips. The pig thinks its fixed and tries to present itself as such.

Sven on March 25, 2014 at 6:49 PM

“Say,” she added, “we’re not going to go back to the days of leaving you on your own with the insurance companies.”

“Say,” she added, “we’re not going to go back to the days of leaving you on your own with the insurance companies, instead you will be at the mercy of the federal government.”

redguy on March 25, 2014 at 6:50 PM

Just pass into law every change Obama has made and its over and done with. Harry Reid won’t play ball until 2015? make him toxic in his last two years as the dems have to keep defending their leaders going into 2016 with both houses already in place.

DanMan on March 25, 2014 at 6:51 PM

If the GOP was smart, it would hang ObamaCare around the neck of every Democratic incumbent, but Karl Rove is advising Republicans not to place too much emphasis on ObamaCare.

bw222 on March 25, 2014 at 6:52 PM

Every Democrat in the country who’s running in a purple district will take this line. There’s really no other choice.

Yeah, the “I was incredibly stupid and partisan but meant well” is about as well as these critters can do. I wonder how many people who are paying more for health insurance (if they even still have it) are in a forgiving mood.

Happy Nomad on March 25, 2014 at 6:53 PM

Ever see Celinda Lake? She is industrial grade fugly. Ever notice how many liberal women are fugly?

bw222 on March 25, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Affordable, Affordable, Affordable!

22044 on March 25, 2014 at 6:58 PM

Verby…tell us why Unaffordable NoCare is the greatest thing ever.

22044 on March 25, 2014 at 6:58 PM

You know, if I tilt my head back and sniff the air I can smell lib fear and desperation. Like flop sweat.

battalion on March 25, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Democratic pollster warns Senate Dems on ObamaCare: Don’t defend it

Forget defending ObamaCare, will the Stupid Party figure out that the important thing is to make the Dems defend voting for the damn thing?

Nomennovum on March 25, 2014 at 7:00 PM

You can’t fix stupid as Obama stupid goes clear to the bone.

VorDaj on March 25, 2014 at 7:00 PM

DWS says it’s good to go. Trust her, she’s wise, she wouldn’t lead you wrong!

vityas on March 25, 2014 at 7:01 PM

Ever see Celinda Lake? She is industrial grade fugly. Ever notice how many liberal women are fugly?

bw222 on March 25, 2014 at 6:55 PM

Gonna venture a hunch.
Her blandishments about fixing O-No-Care mean moving to single payer.

22044 on March 25, 2014 at 7:01 PM

How come Allahpundit never get’s a “Slow down, you’re posting to quickly” warning?

oscarwilde on March 25, 2014 at 7:03 PM

I wonder how many people who are paying more for health insurance (if they even still have it) are in a forgiving mood.

Happy Nomad on March 25, 2014 at 6:53 PM

Hmmm, I wonder what “a forgiving mood” means to a bloodthirsty mob?

oscarwilde on March 25, 2014 at 7:05 PM

It should be worth reminding folks that not ONE Republican voted to pass zerObamacare.

SouthernGent on March 25, 2014 at 7:06 PM

“The product is good…..”

Electrongod on March 25, 2014 at 7:06 PM

But, she added, it is key for Democrats to also stick to their historic approach of looking out for the little guy when it comes to health care. “Say,” she added, “we’re not going to go back to the days of leaving you on your own with the insurance companies.”

Ok Celinda, if they were looking out for the little guy and it was flawed from the beginning, why did they F*** us.

Most people (in retrospect, probably all) did OK under the old system, and we like our insurance companies, that why you told us the lie about keeping what we had, right?

Keep digging Celinda.

whbates on March 25, 2014 at 7:10 PM

Today’s horror movie feature:
The Obamacare that ate…the Democrats

22044 on March 25, 2014 at 7:11 PM

Hey they still have 8 7 months. Go for it Dems …it will be great. Wink, wink.

CW on March 25, 2014 at 7:12 PM

If the Republicans are smart (which I always doubt) they should say that, if they’re elected, they’re willing to try and work with the remaining Democrats to fix it, but they need the flexibility to do what’s necessary to actually fix it, versus the cosmetics the Democrats want to do to make them electable.

bflat879 on March 25, 2014 at 7:13 PM

Bbbbut signature legislative accomplishment of the smartest president in the last 200 years….or something….

workingclass artist on March 25, 2014 at 7:17 PM

You can’t fix this car Spicoli!

Flyovercountry on March 25, 2014 at 7:19 PM

Fill the Obamacare spare tire with gasoline and put it around the neck of every DEMOCRAT running…

The electorate will light it come NO-vember…

Khun Joe on March 25, 2014 at 7:23 PM

…we’re not going to go back to the days of leaving you on your own with the insurance companies.

Who does this line of reasoning work with? I’ve had issues with my insurance carrier in the last but mist of those issues can be attributed to the fact that my relationship with the carrier wasn’t direct but involved an intermediary, my employer.

And even if I had regular issues with my carrier, in a truly free market I would find another carrier. I darn sure don’t want government involved so again, on whom does this argument work?

Why must the Left demonize insurance companies? Or any type of company?

Charlemagne on March 25, 2014 at 7:26 PM

You can’t fix this car Spicoli!

Flyovercountry on March 25, 2014 at 7:19 PM

My President’s a community organizer. He’s got an ultimate set of tools. It’s called his Cabinet.

Flange on March 25, 2014 at 7:26 PM

That will make a show of trying to fix it, then throw up their hands in despair, and proclaim they need to go to single-payer.

Doc Holliday on March 25, 2014 at 7:26 PM

If the GOP was smart, it would hang ObamaCare around the neck of every Democratic incumbent, but Karl Rove is advising Republicans not to place too much emphasis on ObamaCare.

I wouldn’t place too much emphasis on Karl Rove.

Nat George on March 25, 2014 at 7:28 PM

…no no no!…you have to listen to Brillo Hair DWS!…She is the chair…with the hair!

KOOLAID2 on March 25, 2014 at 7:29 PM

School choice is the best leverage to irreparably crack the Dem party open and bleed it dry. The Dem relationship with gummint (at all levels) cannot stand if divided between poor minorities (Blacks and Hispanics) who want better for their kids versus the union dues from teachers who care little about the children they teach. If somehow we could get the lawyers to sue the schools, it would be a three-way split. If the Asians and the Jews who so strongly identify with the Dem party actually get the school choice they want, the current public schools would wither away.

An added benefit to scrapping the current public school system would be reduction of fixed-benefit pensions currently strangling cities and towns all over the USofA.

When the Dems try to run for re-election on “mend it, don’t end it” and how great Obamacare will soon be, hold their feet to the fire and ask them what changes they should make – specific bills to address specific problems in Obamacare. They won’t have an answer. At that point, just stare at them…

DublOh7 on March 25, 2014 at 7:32 PM

A bigger pile of shit couldn’t bear a more appropriate name: Obama

Murphy9 on March 25, 2014 at 7:44 PM

School choice is the best leverage to irreparably crack the Dem party open and bleed it dry.

DublOh7 on March 25, 2014 at 7:32 PM

There are a number of issues that Republicans can run on against the Congressional Democrats – the questions ultimately come down to how effective of a counter-message can they put forward, and how much are they willing to engage the lies and spin away from the feckless and mendacious track record.

Obamacare has very real and clear issues – with succinct talking points based around ‘if you like your insurance’, ‘if you like your Doctor’, and the ‘Affordable’.

School choice is more of a local issue, but as the NYC Sandinista Mayor is demonstrating, just as fundamentally toxic.

The lack of openness, transparency, and the regular abuses of power by the self-described most open and transparent Administration ever is as deadly towards credibility as Obamacare has been. And like the ACA, there’s no way to run from it if one’s voted for it or taken steps to cover for the Administration. What hearings that there have been provide so much video information around the fecklessness of any Democrat Congresscritter who’s not in a district like Nan Pelosi or Barbara Lee or Sheila Jackson-Lee.

In 2012, too many Republicans were afraid to engage their opponents because they didn’t want to ‘provoke’ the ethically challenged mainstream media. We can’t do that any more. Both the candidate and the media have to be challenged because both are part of the problem, not the solution.

Athos on March 25, 2014 at 7:44 PM

But these Obamacare posts are about whistling past the graveyard, by next Novemeber Democrats will be openly running on the ACA. Mark my words.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Schadenfreude on March 25, 2014 at 7:53 PM

That video is entirely predictable, but still hilarious.

MikeinPRCA on March 25, 2014 at 7:57 PM

Doesn’t matter. Too late for the ones who voted for it. Buh bye.

rjh on March 25, 2014 at 7:57 PM

Schadenfreude on March 25, 2014 at 7:53 PM

LoLz..:)

Dire Straits on March 25, 2014 at 7:58 PM

“Say,” she added, “we’re not going to go back to the days of leaving you on your own with the insurance companies.”

It’s laughable that they’re going to expect people to believe that the government can do a better job, given the fiasco they’ve just foisted upon the people. But yea, go ahead with that winning strategy!

scalleywag on March 25, 2014 at 8:10 PM

WTF

Shark … Jump

koaiko on March 25, 2014 at 8:11 PM

“Say,” she added, “we’re not going to go back to the days of leaving you on your own with the insurance companies.”

UMMM…That was working perfectly for me, thank you very much.
How about you stick to paving roads, and dealing with foreign countries in Trade matters, Federal Government? After all…that’s all you were designed and intended for. That, and a military. Stick to that, you SUCK at everything else.

a5minmajor on March 25, 2014 at 8:19 PM

This is easy. Just make the donk senator sign a pledge to repeal Obama-democrat Care.

Or would that be too mean and turn off the independents that are getting totally screwed by Obama-democrat Care? I know the answer of the elites in the gop.

jukin3 on March 25, 2014 at 8:30 PM

And this is why we need to throw money at teachers!

Ukiah on March 25, 2014 at 8:38 PM

BREAKING NEWS: Obamacare extended into April! Hahahahahaha!

Decoski on March 25, 2014 at 9:08 PM

deadline extended

Decoski on March 25, 2014 at 9:09 PM

Democrats wanted ObamaCare. They deserve to have it hung around their necks!

GarandFan on March 25, 2014 at 9:14 PM

“In terms of Obamacare, don’t defend it, say it was flawed from the beginning, and we’re going to fix it,”

Maybe they should have taken the time to read it first, eh?

About this whole returning to the status quo thing….I always get a kick out of that one. As if repealing the law would automatically undo the damage that has been done.

It doesn’t work that way.

lineholder on March 25, 2014 at 9:25 PM

… say it was flawed from the beginning, and we’re going to fix it.

But if it was flawed, why the hell did you vote to pass it?

Oxymoron on March 25, 2014 at 9:27 PM

Channeling Nancy Pelosi

“It’s legislation of the future”

lineholder on March 25, 2014 at 9:34 PM

What don’t Republicans just say “we want to thank the Democrats for showing us how NOT to run a healthcare system and with all the great data they have produced on how NOT to run healthcare we have gotten this list of 3 great new ideas (more than 3 is too complicated for Republicans).

Nationwide insurance plans.
HSA’s
Work with YOUR doctor to structure your plan.

Lonetown on March 26, 2014 at 8:10 AM