Boxer: Why doesn’t Hobby Lobby oppose Viagra?

posted at 12:41 pm on March 25, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Behold one of the most chronically misinformed members of the US Senate surprising utterly no one with the extent of her insight into the Hobby Lobby case.  Barbara Boxer appeared on MSNBC this morning to declare her support for the HHS contraception mandate, claiming at one point that it protects the religious freedom of employees. As Twitchy captured in this segment, Boxer then goes on to challenge Hobby Lobby’s owners for hypocrisy for not opposing insurance coverage of Viagra for men … which even flummoxes Boxer’s MSNBC interviewer:

First and foremost, Viagra (and other erectile-dysfunction drugs and treatments) aren’t widely covered by insurance. That’s one reason why a large online market for inexpensive purchases of the drugs exist. Second, as anyone who gives a moment’s thought about the subject would realize, such drugs would be appropriate to help empower natural procreation, which isn’t against anyone’s religion, last I checked. Lastly, and this is a more minor point, Boxer ignorantly invokes the Catholicism of the plaintiffs in this court hearing, when none of them are actually Catholic.

The religious objection is to contraception and sterilization, and in the Hobby Lobby case, it’s narrowed to a specific kind of contraception — abortifacients. Boxer blithely dismisses the distinction and blathers about the employer taking away the woman’s right to choose her form of contraception — which is nonsense. Just because an employer refuses to subsidize that choice does not mean they are forbidding it or blocking access to it. It’s the same kind of “war on women” double-talk that assumes that employers have total control over the private choices of their employees, when the existence of an independent salary demonstrates the exact opposite. No one gets paid in company scrip any longer, and haven’t for a century or so.

It’s utter drivel, and its source is unsurprising, to say the least.

Reuters, by the way, suspects that the majority of the court will rule on behalf of the businesses:

Take that with a Lot’s-wife-sized grain of salt, though. It’s usually a fool’s errand to guess the outcome of a Supreme Court case based on the tenor of the oral arguments.

Update: Ed Whelan hears second-hand that Justice Breyer may be a vote to overturn the mandate, and perhaps a 6-3 victory for Hobby Lobby is in the offing. We’ll check back when Whelan reads through the transcripts.


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They don’t oppose Botox either. So have at it.

John the Libertarian on March 25, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Pay for your own damn pleasure pills, all of them, for all.

Schadenfreude on March 25, 2014 at 12:44 PM

You can’t fix stupid, but, you sure can elect it.

kingsjester on March 25, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Actually, I believe they DO, Shrew…..

ToddPA on March 25, 2014 at 12:45 PM

I think the SCOTUS will give HL+ a victory and a loss.

Schadenfreude on March 25, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Because it isn’t against their religious faith, you dumb taint.

cptacek on March 25, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Boxer thinks viagara is for the ladies…

albill on March 25, 2014 at 12:46 PM

You don’t need smarts to be a liberal. In fact…

Akzed on March 25, 2014 at 12:46 PM

The people who voted for her must be so proud!

Awilson on March 25, 2014 at 12:46 PM

God, she’s one ugly broad.

lostmotherland on February 26, 2014 at 4:09 PM

Schadenfreude on March 25, 2014 at 12:46 PM

She’s not a bright one is she.

gophergirl on March 25, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Botox makes Barbs and Putin look the same.

Schadenfreude on March 25, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Why doesn’t Hobby Lobby oppose Viagra?

Because somebody needs to service old bags like her

J_Crater on March 25, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Because they prefer women barefoot and pregnant.

/sarc

Tater Salad on March 25, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Mrs. M’am never disappoints, eh?

BobMbx on March 25, 2014 at 12:48 PM

You can’t fix stupid, but, you sure can elect it.

kingsjester on March 25, 2014 at 12:44 PM

Yup. Proven fact.

You don’t need smarts to be a liberal. In fact…

Akzed on March 25, 2014 at 12:46 PM

A few at the top have some smarts. The rest such as Boxer just need to remain useful idiots.

hawkeye54 on March 25, 2014 at 12:48 PM

I wasn’t aware that HL doesn’t cover blood pressure medication. You learn something new everyday.

nobar on March 25, 2014 at 12:48 PM

The Pelosi is strong in this one…

Roy Rogers on March 25, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Heh

The Cali sheeple re-elected the scumhag.

Schadenfreude on March 25, 2014 at 12:49 PM

You can’t fix stupid, but, you sure can elect it.

kingsjester on March 25, 2014 at 12:44 PM

And elect it;
And elect it;

They say people like to vote for those who are like them…..speaks volumes about California.

Athos on March 25, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Boxer needs a swift boxing of her ears, the old fashioned way…

Is she for real? She can’t possibly be a member of the Human race, she has to be an alien plant…

NO ONE on the planet can be this dumb can they? (rhetorical) :)

Scrumpy on March 25, 2014 at 12:49 PM

The people who voted for her must be so proud!

Awilson on March 25, 2014 at 12:46 PM

“Forget it Jake, it’s California.”

(yes, they really are.)

hawkeye54 on March 25, 2014 at 12:50 PM

As stupid as Boxer is, she keeps getting re-elected (first elected in 1993).

Because it’s California.

Reno_Dave on March 25, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Leftists and their scumhags

Schadenfreude on March 25, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Why doesn’t 0-care cover infertility treatments?

CurtZHP on March 25, 2014 at 12:51 PM

“I would defend your right never to have to use birth control.”

Wha?

I guess at least we know Babs is against forcing Americans to use contraception, so there’s that.

Lan Astaslem on March 25, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Leftists and their scumhags

Schadenfreude on March 25, 2014 at 12:50 PM

Fen’s Law

Roy Rogers on March 25, 2014 at 12:52 PM

I can’t understand why this wouldn’t go 9-0 to overturn, but (then again) I thought it was obvious that O-Care itself was unconstitutional. So my own opinion may not be a reliable barometer.

On the other hand, Barbara Boxer ought not be allowed to speak in public. She’s an idiotic person.

MTF on March 25, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Don’t blame me, I voted for Bill Jones…

OmahaConservative on March 25, 2014 at 12:52 PM

Ed Whelan hears second-hand that Justice Breyer may be a vote to overturn the mandate, and perhaps a 6-3 victory for Hobby Lobby is in the offing. We’ll check back when Whelan reads through the transcripts.

No offense to Ed Whelan but I think that reading tea leaves or the entrails of a sheep would be as effective in how the SCOTUS ultimately rules on any issue, particularly these social issues.

In the meantime, Senator Maam gets dumber and dumber.

Happy Nomad on March 25, 2014 at 12:53 PM

If I could have a wish, I would wish to bring back the Stocks, and publicly humiliate these diseased brains that call themselves ‘liberal progs’ oh I would make a batch of especially stinky stuff and dump it all over their heads, gleefully!! :)

Scrumpy on March 25, 2014 at 12:53 PM

There ain’t enough enough Viagra, Ecstasy, or Scotch in the world to make Barbara’s Box seem like a good idea.

M240H on March 25, 2014 at 12:53 PM

She’s not stupid, she just knows the LIV are stupid.

Facts don’t matter. Hobby Lobby is Catholic and trying to keep women from contraceptive devices. She knows that’s nonsense, but it stirs the base and… wait for it… raises money.

mankai on March 25, 2014 at 12:53 PM

So Obamacare mandates insurance coverage for Viagra, Cialis, etc? Good news for prostate cancer survivors like me who have a medical reason to use it.

Oh, coverage isn’t mandated? Then STFU b!tch.

Trafalgar on March 25, 2014 at 12:53 PM

My wife wants to take a vacation to California. I told her I’m not spending a dime in that state as long as Boxer is in office.

VinceOfDoom on March 25, 2014 at 12:53 PM

It really is way, way long past due to repeal the 17th Amendment. Although with the makeup of the California legislature it probably wouldn’t be much of an improvement in that state.

JimK on March 25, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Viagra doesn’t END a life, last I checked anyway.

RU486 most certainly DOES.

Why is Boxer in favor of enslaving me in order to pay for infanticide?

Although, Boxer isn’t capable of comprehending the nuance, I know.

Meople on March 25, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Why doesn’t Obamacare mandate free Viagra for everyone?

Mark1971 on March 25, 2014 at 12:55 PM

M240H on March 25, 2014 at 12:53 PM

I see what you did there, funny one lmao!! :)

Scrumpy on March 25, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Because Viagra doesn’t kill a live human being. I can’t believe that she is this stupid. I just think she thinks that women are that stupid.

melle1228 on March 25, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Barbara Boxer? It would take more than Viagra for that to happen…

yubley on March 25, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Any state looney enough to reelect Moonbeam deserves this vacuous twit in office…

OmahaConservative on March 25, 2014 at 12:56 PM

Ed Whelan hears second-hand that Justice Breyer may be a vote to overturn the mandate, and perhaps a 6-3 victory for Hobby Lobby is in the offing. We’ll check back when Whelan reads through the transcripts.

It hurts my heart that all the women on SCOTUS a liberal tools. Just for once, I would like to see a woman Scalia or Thomas.

melle1228 on March 25, 2014 at 12:57 PM

Although with the makeup of the California legislature it probably wouldn’t be much of an improvement in that state.

Might be interesting, though. If left to the legislature, the Senate could get its first transgender. Justice!

/SNARK

hawkeye54 on March 25, 2014 at 12:57 PM

The religious objection is to contraception and sterilization, and in the Hobby Lobby case, it’s narrowed to a specific kind of contraception — abortifacients.

Judge Napolitano keeps saying that “euthanasia” is part of it.

Shouldn’t Boxer focus on this, for just one example?

Schadenfreude on March 25, 2014 at 12:57 PM

There ain’t enough enough Viagra, Ecstasy, or Scotch in the world to make Barbara’s Box seem like a good idea.

M240H on March 25, 2014 at 12:53 PM

The vast quantity one would have to consume in that endeavor would probably kill you first.

hawkeye54 on March 25, 2014 at 12:58 PM

The only reason we are so embattled is because of idiots like her, and the whole ‘tribe’ of leftists and GOPe progs…

Scrumpy on March 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM

My goodness.

Bmore on March 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Update: Ed Whelan hears second-hand that Justice Breyer may be a vote to overturn the mandate, and perhaps a 6-3 victory for Hobby Lobby is in the offing. We’ll check back when Whelan reads through the transcripts.

To be honest, after that school religion case, I figured that it would be at least 7-2 with only the hags Ginsburg and Kagan still clutching to their war-on-women, Koch-brothers-voodoo dolls. It’ll be interesting if it splits 6-3, men vs. women. Maybe Breyer will “throw” his vote that way, assuming he’d be a 5-4 loser. That way, he could help gin up the war-on-women meme leading up to 2016, crying out for the new to elect Hillary so that we can get as many troglodytes off SCOTUS as possible.

Cripes, at this stage of the country, can you even fathom 16 straight years of Democratic judicial appointments? We may be phucked, but we’ll certainly be phucked then.

BuckeyeSam on March 25, 2014 at 12:59 PM

You can’t fix stupid, but, you sure can RE-elect it.

kingsjester on March 25, 2014 at 12:44 PM

My junior Senator continues to be a national embarrassment…

Khun Joe on March 25, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Been drinking out of the same water fountain as Sheila Jackson-Lee, ma’am?

Flora Duh on March 25, 2014 at 1:01 PM

Classic FLASHBACK …

Hot Air: The Movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJKlc77K5dg

Carly Fiorina really hit the nail on the head with this ad.

Pork-Chop on March 25, 2014 at 1:02 PM

There ain’t enough enough Viagra, Ecstasy, or Scotch in the world to make Barbara’s Box seem like a good idea.

M240H on March 25, 2014 at 12:53 PM

If one were to attempt that endeavor, the vast quantity of booze and drugs necessary would be fatal, I tell ya.

hawkeye54 on March 25, 2014 at 1:02 PM

Boxer, Pelosi, Hillary…..

What is it about these old liberal hags that makes me want to reconsider my position on not punching women in the face?

underpants on March 25, 2014 at 1:02 PM

A good percentage of ocrapocare policies don’t cover chemotheapy and this b*tch and her lib minions are upset about birth control. We’re doomed.

BeachBum on March 25, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Boxer: Why doesn’t Hobby Lobby oppose Viagra?

Ladies and Gentleman, this is the wisdom of the Senator elected by the people of California. Can we blame her for just being herself (an idiot), or should we blame the people who put her in office?

olesparkie on March 25, 2014 at 1:03 PM

only time I have seen viagra/ed drugs covered was after prostate surgery when its needed to get blood flowing.
IOW its for a medical reason.

dmacleo on March 25, 2014 at 1:03 PM

I rarely opine in this manner, but sheesh…what a colossal idiot!

Ricard on March 25, 2014 at 1:03 PM

I never thought to live long enough to see how any tool could be so wrong on so many counts at once, but Babs Boxcar has just set the modern record. She’s just not an idiot ideologue, but good ol’, down home Kaliforniac STUPID. She can’t even put together a cogent thought, let alone, a sensible sentence. She needs to beam up with Reid for a permanent stay on planet Joker.

vnvet on March 25, 2014 at 1:04 PM

The Pelosi is strong in this one…

Roy Rogers on March 25, 2014 at 12:48 PM

ROTFL! THREAD WINNER!!

Ricard on March 25, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Just for once, I would like to see a woman Scalia or Thomas.

melle1228 on March 25, 2014 at 12:57 PM

If one was nominated, you’d see a real ‘war on women’ – waged by the progressive Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee like Schmuckie Schumer.

Athos on March 25, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Such hateful stupidity is a menace to the nation.

rrpjr on March 25, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Babbling “call me senator” Boxer is a useless socialist, and is sounding more demented by the day.

Whitey Ford on March 25, 2014 at 1:06 PM

only time I have seen (dash to get past mod filters) vi-agra/ed drugs covered was after prostate surgery when its needed to get blood flowing.
IOW its for a medical reason.

dmacleo on March 25, 2014 at 1:06 PM

This just in:

Rumsfeld calls Obama an Ape.

ToddPA on March 25, 2014 at 1:06 PM

ToddPA on March 25, 2014 at 1:06 PM

That’s the way it will be spun, alright.

kingsjester on March 25, 2014 at 1:09 PM

This just in:

Rumsfeld calls Obama an Ape.

ToddPA on March 25, 2014 at 1:06 PM

No, he said he was less competent than a trained ape. It’s important to be accurate when reporting others positions.

Fenris on March 25, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Second, as anyone who gives a moment’s thought about the subject would realize, such drugs would be appropriate to help empower natural procreation, which isn’t against anyone’s religion, last I checked.

Not so sure about that with modern progressivism these days.

rbj on March 25, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Boxer, Pelosi, Hillary…..

What is it about these old liberal hags that makes me want to reconsider my position on not punching women in the face?

underpants on March 25, 2014 at 1:02 PM

One thing’s for sure. There’s not enough Viagra in the world….

CurtZHP on March 25, 2014 at 1:10 PM

I rarely opine in this manner, but sheesh…what a colossal idiot!

Ricard on March 25, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Yes she is, but a very useful one, mind you.

hawkeye54 on March 25, 2014 at 1:10 PM

Barbara Boxer appeared on MSNBC this morning

That’s “SENATOR Boxer” to you!

She worked really hard to earn it, you know.

steebo77 on March 25, 2014 at 1:11 PM

The point is not what they are opposing or not opposing. The point is they have the right to oppose whatever they want.

Stupid people should know better than to open their mouths and prove it.

crankyoldlady on March 25, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Classic

Schadenfreude on March 25, 2014 at 1:12 PM

This just in:

Rumsfeld calls Obama an Ape.

ToddPA on March 25, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Belgian Newspaper Publishes Image Of Obama Depicted As Ape

Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape!

Roy Rogers on March 25, 2014 at 1:13 PM

This is all a test, to see how dumbed down the populace is, just a test of Dumbocracy, then the progs will know how to advance and defeat the rest of us…

Scrumpy on March 25, 2014 at 1:14 PM

Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape!

I hope you will not take offense if I correct your quote.

I believe the currently applicable phrase is “Keep your stinking laws off me, you damned dirty ape.”

Hope that helps.

orangemtl on March 25, 2014 at 1:15 PM

Boxer: Why doesn’t Hobby Lobby oppose Viagra?

Woody’s don’t kill.

trigon on March 25, 2014 at 1:16 PM

Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape!

Roy Rogers on March 25, 2014 at 1:13 PM

Rummy’s German relatives will disown him, again.

Schadenfreude on March 25, 2014 at 1:16 PM

If one was nominated, you’d see a real ‘war on women’ – waged by the progressive Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee like Schmuckie Schumer.

Athos on March 25, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Yeppers, but I would love to see a Conservative woman take them on.

melle1228 on March 25, 2014 at 1:16 PM

orangemtl on March 25, 2014 at 1:15 PM

I’m good with that!
Cheers!

Roy Rogers on March 25, 2014 at 1:17 PM

Senator Ma’am. Your move, CA.

22044 on March 25, 2014 at 1:17 PM

Not paying is not the same as denying access unlike the drug companies which are refusing to provide drugs used in capital punishment to state governments, something the left applauds.

agmartin on March 25, 2014 at 1:17 PM

Thank you, California!
You routinely vote in politicians with single digit IQs.

vityas on March 25, 2014 at 1:20 PM

That’s Barbara Boxer? Wow, all the evil must have distorted her features.

TonyR on March 25, 2014 at 1:22 PM

My wife wants to take a vacation to California. I told her I’m not spending a dime in that state as long as Boxer is in office.

VinceOfDoom on March 25, 2014 at 12:53 PM

But Pelosi, that’s not a problem for ya?

HiJack on March 25, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Viagra treats a medical disorder. Fertility and pregnancy are not medical disorders.

Ward Cleaver on March 25, 2014 at 1:26 PM

Behold one of the most chronically misinformed members of the US Senate surprising utterly no one with the extent of her insight into the Hobby Lobby case.

And yet, I’m betting there will have been more coverage of the (fake) story that Palin told Sean Hannity that MH370 went so high it got stuck in heaven than what this ignorant woman said.

Happy Nomad on March 25, 2014 at 1:28 PM

She’s not stupid, she just knows the LIV are stupid.

Facts don’t matter. Hobby Lobby is Catholic and trying to keep women from contraceptive devices. She knows that’s nonsense, but it stirs the base and… wait for it… raises money.

mankai on March 25, 2014 at 12:53 PM

ding, ding, ding – we have a winner!

In line with the War on Women, which allows dolts like Fluke and her ilk to get press coverage. Everything is about liberal emotions – and extra credit for women emotions.

Hobby Case, abortion, Lilly Ledbetter, etc etc.

Odie1941 on March 25, 2014 at 1:29 PM

They say people like to vote for those who are like them…..speaks volumes about California.

Athos on March 25, 2014 at 12:49 PM

On the other hand, it does keep her out of California for many months during the year so maybe they’re trying the keep the state’s average IQ above 80.

Grammar Nazi on March 25, 2014 at 1:29 PM

C’mon, moderators. You’ve got the V word in the title, and my reference to it gets stuck in the filter?

CurtZHP on March 25, 2014 at 1:29 PM

V!agra treats a medical disorder. Fertility and pregnancy are not medical disorders.

Ward Cleaver on March 25, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Yes, the filter doesn’t like the V-word.

Ward Cleaver on March 25, 2014 at 1:31 PM

Only an idiot would compare a drug that assists with erectile dysfunction to a drug that ends life. What a “tot al but twad”. Now say it fast five times!

LarryK on March 25, 2014 at 1:32 PM

And yet, I’m betting there will have been more coverage of the (fake) story that Palin told Sean Hannity that MH370 went so high it got stuck in heaven than what this ignorant woman said.

Happy Nomad on March 25, 2014 at 1:28 PM

I was thinking there should be a parody site that makes up fake stories about prominent lefties. Then I realized that what they actually say is already beyond parody, and any such endeavor is doomed to failure.

Fenris on March 25, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Actually Viagra HAS been used to treat sexual dysfunction for women as well.

Study Finds Viagra Works for Women
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=124569

This is what happens when idiots in DC tell MD’s how to practice medicine.

Pelosi Schmelosi on March 25, 2014 at 1:33 PM

I’d offer that Boxer is as dumb as a box of rocks, but rocks do not support laws that diminish liberties. This is the best CA can offer to represent themselves?

stop2think on March 25, 2014 at 1:34 PM

Barbara Boxarocks, at it again!

tomshup on March 25, 2014 at 1:34 PM

Hey DUMMY!
Yeah YOU Boxer ya jack(petard)

Vitamin V also works for women:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=124569

This is what happens when idiots in DC think so highly of themselves that they can tell doctors how to practice medicine.

Pelosi Schmelosi on March 25, 2014 at 1:37 PM

Whoa! Sounds like Babs is crying for some relief here! Is her husband’s name Ed?

Roy Rogers on March 25, 2014 at 1:37 PM

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