Damage control: Dem leaders scramble after Nate Silver picks GOP to retake the Senate

posted at 4:01 pm on March 24, 2014 by Allahpundit

Interesting as evidence of the exalted place that Silver now occupies in the lefty political imagination. No one performs the same function for righties anymore. Karl Rove did, kinda sorta, once upon a time, but after Dubya’s dismal second term, the tea party’s break with establishment Republicans, and American Crossroads’ terrible 2012 campaign, his infallibility is long gone. Silver’s is intact, for now. He’s the guy whom liberals turned to through the ups and downs of the last presidential race for reassurance that, yes, Obama was still favored to win and in fact had been somewhat heavily favored to win since day one of the campaign. He was their security blanket, and when all 50 states hit just like he predicted (as they did for other election modelers, thanks to the spot-on state poll averages), they decided he was a cross between Max Cohen and Merlin.

And when Merlin tells you you’re going to lose, attention must be paid.

In an unusual step, the executive director of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee on Monday issued a rebuttal the famed statistician’s prediction—made a day earlier—that Republicans were a “slight favorite” to retake the Senate. Silver was wrong in 2012, the political committee’s Guy Cecil wrote in a memo, and he’ll be wrong again in 2014.

“In fact, in August of 2012 Silver forecast a 61 percent likelihood that Republicans would pick up enough seats to claim the majority,” Cecil said. “Three months later, Democrats went on to win 55 seats.”…

It cites four races in which Democrats won despite Silver once predicting otherwise: Heidi Heitkamp in North Dakota and John Tester in Montana in 2012, and Harry Reid in Nevada and Michael Bennet in Colorado in 2010.

“All four are senators today because they were superior candidates running superior campaign organizations who made their elections a choice between the two candidates on the ballot,” said the executive director. “Only three Democratic incumbent senators have lost reelection in the last 10 years, and our incumbents are once again prepared and ready.”

That’s one prong of Democratic crisis management — reassuring the rank and file that Nate can be wrong, lest some of them despair that The Machine Hath Spoken and therefore there’s no sense actually voting on election day. The other prong, which you don’t need Merlin to help predict, was that they’d try to fundraise off of this — warning the rank and file that Nate’s usually right so they’d better pony up to avert a Republican Senate takeover. (Note that the fundraising e-mail also mentions the Koch brothers, another talismanic entity in the lefty mind guaranteed to open wallets.) They won’t be able to use this strategy forever; Silver will eventually miss a big one and even lefties will scale down their trust in his pronouncements of rapture or doom, but right now there’s no escaping him. Which makes me wonder: If he’s correct about the number of seats the GOP picks up this fall, maybe the new Nate Silver figure for the right will be … Nate Silver.

Here he is yesterday laying odds on the Senate via Legal Insurrection, who marvels at the spectacle of Democratic leaders now trying to un-skew the polls.


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Heh…

OmahaConservative on March 24, 2014 at 4:06 PM

“Three months later, Democrats went on to win 55 seats.”

Wow, the Democrats were running Senate campaigns even in off-years!

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mankai on March 24, 2014 at 4:06 PM

I just know that the Republicans will find some way to screw this up. I just know it.

Kaffa on March 24, 2014 at 4:08 PM

Microscope will be on any anti-anti-American for anything they can feed for the media to spin into an “extremists” position.

Kanga on March 24, 2014 at 4:09 PM

I just know that the Republicans will find some way to screw this up. I just know it.

Kaffa on March 24, 2014 at 4:08 PM

…because their brains…are scrabbled!

KOOLAID2 on March 24, 2014 at 4:12 PM

The GOP would have taken the Senate in 2012 if not for Romney suppressing the conservative vote.

mankai on March 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM

S**t happens. Karma is a b*tch.

myiq2xu on March 24, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Now the libs will try to destroy him.

Ward Cleaver on March 24, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Good luck running Dems on your self-induced health care debacle, $3+ gas, 7% unempl, $17 trillion in debt, foreign policy bungling and the Obama dependency class…the only reason the eunuch won in ’12 was because your health care had not become reality yet…

hillsoftx on March 24, 2014 at 4:23 PM

LEAN FORWARD

Good Lt on March 24, 2014 at 4:24 PM

I’m surprised that the Democratic crisis management isn’t talking or referencing their dependence on even more shilling, lying, and propaganda from the sycophants in the mainstream media than they got in 2012.

I’m sure it will go beyond MSDNC’s 7×24 ‘They Hate Obama’ rants or the usual fearmongering, dirty tricks, and phony stories from SeeBS, NBC, and ABC while hiding the fecklessness of the progressive fascist candidates they openly support and promote.

Athos on March 24, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Their definition of “damage control” is attack the messenger. Then again, what good is a GOP majority in the Senate if it’s with the likes of McConnell, McCain, Murkowski, Collins, Alexander etc.??? Don’t get me wrong; seeing Harry Reid defrocked is well worth the price of admission. But without a Congress full of Reagans and Coolidges, it doesn’t help reverse the course of the past 100 years.

Rixon on March 24, 2014 at 4:27 PM

I love Allah’s political analysis and insight, but I really just stopped by for the Walking Dead Grumble Thread. Don’t make me wait too long, big guy.

Infidoll on March 24, 2014 at 4:29 PM

Petty, but Nate: That’s got to be one of the worst comb-overs I’ve ever seen. It’s like a comb-over without the comb. Clean yourself up man.

WhatSlushfund on March 24, 2014 at 4:30 PM

More good news:

Rasmussen Alaska 2014 Senate Poll
Mead Treadwell (R) 47%
Mark Begich (D) 43%

Dan Sullivan (R) 44%
Mark Begich (D) 44%

Mark Begich (D) 49%
Joe Miller (R) 38%

It is Rasmussen, so yeah…

GOPRanknFile on March 24, 2014 at 4:30 PM

Oregon is not on the list.

Merkley is a weak Senator. We Republicans are moving to take this State

1) New voter fraud fighting efforts, math methods, new camera systems, and even potentially signature identification software.

2) New voter turn out efforts. We have obtained some unusual help thanks to Chairman Art Robinson and will be getting a lot more votes on our side than usual

3) Off-cycle elections tilt more towards us, in 2010 we took exactly 50% of the Oregon House.

4) Candidates in certain districts are pumping Republicans after Democrats retired. Excitement in Democrat ranks is lower now.

5) Backlash over Obamacare and Kitzcare (Care Oregon) is having a dramatic effect.

6) We have a unified effort on ONE Republican candidate for Governor. There is no contest here on that, there will be one standing for the fight and one only from the field. This affects the Senate race as well for turn-out.

7) Merkley has no signature efforts here in Oregon, he has made no major headlines, he has no real status as a mover.

8) Oregon loses for Republicans by less than 22,000 votes. We are changing this dynamic here.

The weak side is our two candidates can be tied to WydenCare or to KitzCare. Now the claim is of course the WydenCare is different, and that KitzCare was a local alternative to ObamaCare control at Federal level. This is the main identifiable weakness.

OregonPolitician on March 24, 2014 at 4:31 PM

heh, the communists should have thought about this before ObamaCare, IRS, etc…..

I am sure Obama, Reid & Pelosi are looking at ways to suspend elections.

redguy on March 24, 2014 at 4:31 PM

You were missed .

Lucano on March 24, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Why are Democrats Homophobes now? Do they not like the analysis that Nate is giving them?

reddevil on March 24, 2014 at 4:33 PM

The GOP would have taken the Senate in 2012 if not for Romney suppressing the conservative vote.

mankai on March 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Yeah, that is why NBC is leaning Jeb Bush forward now that Romney has ruled out a 2016 run…..

redguy on March 24, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Why are Democrats Homophobes now? Do they not like the analysis that Nate is giving them?

reddevil on March 24, 2014 at 4:33 PM

They are going to go all Breitbart on Nate’s ass…….

redguy on March 24, 2014 at 4:34 PM

They say these things to encourage the donors to come up with more money.

crankyoldlady on March 24, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Can’t wait for the TruCons to show up and announce that since there is no Republican in the Senate that agrees with them 100% of the time (because 70-80% just isn’t good enough!!!), it would be better to not vote and leave Harry Reid in control of the Senate. That way you can claim moral superiority over those who are desperate to slow Obama by any means possible.

Sheesh.

brushman on March 24, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Did he canvas the cemeteries??? Probably enough votes there to prevent the GOP gaining control.

txdoc on March 24, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Any chance this guy will demand that the media not call Ohio?

Cindy Munford on March 24, 2014 at 4:37 PM

60% of the time Nate Silver is right 100% of the time.

Murphy9 on March 24, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Debbie Wasserman Schultz says different. And Debbie cannot be ignored, dammit!

Heh.

MTF on March 24, 2014 at 4:39 PM

The GOP would have taken the Senate in 2012 if not for Romney suppressing the conservative vote.

mankai on March 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM

And how completely ignorant of those “principled conservatives” who elected to sit-out and not vote just because Romney wasn’t “conservative enough.”

If I had cancer, and I had a choice between seeing a doctor that gave me a 60% – 70% chance of recovery, as opposed to a doctor that gave me a 0% chance–who would I pick? Quite obviously, the doctor that gave me the best chance to survive!

Same principle applies here. Even if you don’t agree with a candidate 100% of the time (such as how I felt about Romney), it was still a no-brainer to vote for him versus Obama (who I agree with 0% of the time).

Lesson to learn: don’t stand on principle to the point that you become blind to the big picture. If we’d elected Romney instead of Obama, we’d be a whole lot better off than we are today.

(And this is coming to you courtesy of a STAUNCH conservative.)

Bob Davis on March 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Good luck running Dems on your self-induced health care debacle, $3+ gas, 7% unempl, $17 trillion in debt, foreign policy bungling and the Obama dependency class…the only reason the eunuch won in ’12 was because your health care had not become reality yet…

hillsoftx on March 24, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Yeah, that reminds me. You gotta love the complete media blackout on the sudden spike in gas prices over the last couple weeks. Is it that winter-spring refinery thing that’s causing it to go up so much or is there something else at play? It would be nice if someone reported on it so we wouldn’t be left in the dark.

Doughboy on March 24, 2014 at 4:45 PM

He got lucky… The polls were correct and he based his assumptions on them… No f***ing secret genius here…

mnjg on March 24, 2014 at 4:45 PM

Bob Davis on March 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Hear, hear!

GOPRanknFile on March 24, 2014 at 4:45 PM

(And this is coming to you courtesy of a STAUNCH conservative.)

Bob Davis on March 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM

You can’t reason with purists. Romney would have made an excellent president.

John the Libertarian on March 24, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Oregon Politian.

I’ve lived in Central Oregon for 8 years. There are not enough votes to make Merkley’s seat Red. The only Repub that will win is our District Two Congressman. Oh, I’ll vote a straight Rebup ticket but too many lobs in Portland will cancel my vote.

Agent of the Cross on March 24, 2014 at 4:52 PM

sson to learn: don’t stand on principle to the point that you become blind to the big picture. If we’d elected Romney instead of Obama, we’d be a whole lo better off than we are today. (And this is coming to you courtesy of a STAUNCH conservative.) Bob Davis on March 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Bullshit.

They compromised THEIR principals. It’s not my duty to meet them 1/2 way at being a dirtbag prog.

No Sir.

I’d rather let it burn than feel like a cheap whore.

wolly4321 on March 24, 2014 at 4:54 PM

All I know is that the Democrats have a truly impressive get out the vote/make up the vote machine that cannot be discounted. I expect to see a great many such Republican lulling pronouncements in the next few months. It’s all part of the game. Learn it! 2012 showed that, despite all the rosy righty projections, even abject failure can be defeated by armies of Democrat shills backed by the media/techno-giants who will marshal every tool and development to push their socialist agenda. The Revolution never ends. Unlike Republicans, the left never gives up or gives in.

ironked on March 24, 2014 at 4:54 PM

Bob Davis on March 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM

While I don’t think Gov. Romney did enough to court conservatives, he didn’t keep me at home and I think he would have done a good job. That said, I think a lot of Establishment types are now handling conservatives and Tea Party types very badly. Republicans have to get over the feeling that they have a base that has nowhere else to go. They are making very poor calculations.

Cindy Munford on March 24, 2014 at 4:55 PM

You know why there’s no argument amongst mod progs and hardcore progs?

The dems purged their moderates. There are no blue dogs left.

I wish we would do the same.

wolly4321 on March 24, 2014 at 4:59 PM

(Note that the fundraising e-mail also mentions the Koch brothers, another talismanic entity in the lefty mind guaranteed to open wallets.)

Raise time

Schadenfreude on March 24, 2014 at 5:01 PM

I was never overly impressed with Silver — he basically takes polling averages. That may be a very good methodology, but it’s hardly unique or brilliant, except when others ignore the averages.

But one thing I’ll try never to scream again is what Demcrats are doing now: Unskew!

Good William A. Jacobson, it’s Unscrew!, chap.

Schadenfreude on March 24, 2014 at 5:04 PM

But these Obamacare posts are about whistling past the graveyard, by next Novemeber Democrats will be openly running on the ACA. Mark my words.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Schadenfreude on March 24, 2014 at 5:05 PM

We now know who lostmotherland is…
In response to the question ‘How do you think Ted Cruz became a Senator?’ one of Hot Air’s resident Progtard ‘scholars’ responded:

‘Gerrymandering.’
- lostmotherland on October 17, 2013 at 1:39 PM

So the State of Texas, IN ITS FVCKING ENTIRETY, is gerrymandered?
Gerrymandering only factors into House seats and state/local districts. And, of course, it is not limited to one party
- Me
lostmotherland = Touré
Resist We Much on November 14, 2013 at 7:04 PM

And this

I love coming to any post that talk about annexation. If you object to annexation give back texas to mexico. Hawaii was annexed.

coolrepublica on March 24, 2014 at 4:28 PM

obama-phone-people and Jeantels…the kinds who brung/kept obama

Schadenfreude on March 24, 2014 at 5:12 PM

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Lucky for us the election is this November.

Cindy Munford on March 24, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Explain to me how one stands 1/2 assed on principle?

As a stragety.

wolly4321 on March 24, 2014 at 5:15 PM

“talismanic entity”

Welcome back, AP. You were missed.

Sacramento on March 24, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Can’t wait for the TruCons to show up and announce that since there is no Republican in the Senate that agrees with them 100% of the time (because 70-80% just isn’t good enough!!!), it would be better to not vote and leave Harry Reid in control of the Senate. That way you can claim moral superiority over those who are desperate to slow Obama by any means possible.

Sheesh.

brushman on March 24, 2014 at 4:36 PM

Unfortunately, you don’t seem to get it. It isn’t enough to elect Republicans. We need actual CONSERVATIVES. Ones who do not support Amnesty, weakening our national defense or support gun control.

We held both Chambers of Congress and the White House from 2001-2006 and what did the GOP do? Grow the government, enact new entitlements and spend/borrow more than any other administration in our history until the coming of Obama.

So, think again. It ain’t enough to just elect Republicans. Not if they’re all Democrat-lite. I want to reverse the course of the past 100 years, not just take a few more years to go over the cliff.

Rixon on March 24, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Doughboy on March 24, 2014 at 4:45 PM

Silly rabbit, because Boooooooooossshhhh!!! /s

cornbred on March 24, 2014 at 5:23 PM

There is one unknown and unknowable factor. How many Ds decide in the next coming months that being in power and not being in charge isn’t any fun and do what congressman Waxman did and get out while the gettin’s good.

kurtzz3 on March 24, 2014 at 5:26 PM

Oregon is not on the list.

Merkley is a weak Senator. We Republicans are moving to take this State

OregonPolitician on March 24, 2014 at 4:31 PM

I’d love to see doofus replaced, but I’m not holding my breath.

Please, please, please prove me wrong…

Sockpuppet Politic on March 24, 2014 at 5:45 PM

Rixon on March 24, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Oh stop it. How many Republicans voted for ObuttheadCare? How many Republicans voted for Dodd-ering-Fwank? Who would you rather have for a Senator, Mitch McConnell or Hairy Greed?

I’m not saying to roll over during the primary season–that’s when Conservatives need to go for it. But come general election time any PRINCIPLED Conservative should vote for the Republican on the ticket. And staying home is a vote for the Dimocraps.

NOMOBO on March 24, 2014 at 5:49 PM

The Dems have one distinct advantage over the GOP: they have 57 states to draw from while the GOP only has a measly 50.

HiJack on March 24, 2014 at 5:50 PM

Rixon on March 24, 2014 at 5:17 PM

I couldn’t agree more that we need more conservatives, but do we throw the entire country under the bus and wait until the Perfect Conservative appears? While all conservatives rightly hold up Ronaldus Magnus as the ideal (and I voted for him twice), sometime you do have to settle for someone you agree with 70-80% (or less) of the time. Given the choice of Romney or Obama, I voted for Mitt even though he was way left of me on many things. He was and is a decent and honorable person who would in no way desecrate our Sacred Constitution the way Obama is. He return respect to the United States both here and abroad. He would no doubt approve the Keystone pipeline and loosen up on oil production, all things that Obama opposes. So yes, search for, support and campaign for the most conservative candidate, but be prepared to compromise for the greater good. In this case, the greater good was to remove Obama from office.

brushman on March 24, 2014 at 5:52 PM

F.U. Bob Davis & brushman – if a candidate does NOT support 100% of conservative principals & morals of the conservative agenda (especially support for traditional marriage) then I will NOT support that candidate. Then you Bob Davis are NOT a staunch conservative & we don’t want moderates like you in the conservative movement. please join the Democratic Party where people like you belong.

RightWingConservative on March 24, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Real conservatives DO NOT compromise.

RightWingConservative on March 24, 2014 at 5:57 PM

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ConcealedKerry on March 24, 2014 at 6:11 PM

Real conservatives DO NOT compromise.
RightWingConservative on March 24, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Reagan did, so by your own admitted standard he wasn’t a Real Conservative. You cannot be serious. If you are, this country is lost.

brushman on March 24, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Oh, I thought Merideth and MJB and them said the GOP didn’t need that tiny minority of TEA party zealots? Cuz we’re all so extreme-y and TruCon and Teahadi and all?

But I mean, with stroking like that, why WOULDN’T conservatives vote the straight GOP ticket?

Pless1foEngrish on March 24, 2014 at 6:14 PM

Citizens!

ConcealedKerry on March 24, 2014 at 6:16 PM

RightWingConservative on March 24, 2014 at 5:54 PM

RightWingConservative, that type of attitude is what will keep the Dimbulbcrats in power forevermore. I was not aware that winning elections is not a Conservative goal.

And I would bet that I am just as Conservative as you are, just a bit more rational and intelligent. So quit telling people who display some rationality that they are not welcome in the Conservative Movement.

Real conservatives DO NOT compromise.

And neither do dictators. Is that what you want this country to be? It’s time to grow up and become a REAL Conservative.

NOMOBO on March 24, 2014 at 6:16 PM

F.U. Bob Davis & brushman – if a candidate does NOT support 100% of conservative principals & morals of the conservative agenda (especially support for traditional marriage) then I will NOT support that candidate. Then you Bob Davis are NOT a staunch conservative & we don’t want moderates like you in the conservative movement. please join the Democratic Party where people like you belong.

RightWingConservative on March 24, 2014 at 5:54 PM

Real conservatives DO NOT compromise.

RightWingConservative on March 24, 2014 at 5:57 PM

That’s very convincing. You sound just like a real Right Wing Conservative and not at all like a liberal douche-troll who is dumb and/or cynical enough to think someone actually buys your caricature.

RINO in Name Only on March 24, 2014 at 6:29 PM

brushman on March 24, 2014 at 6:12 PM NOMOBO on March 24, 2014 at 6:16 PM

These are people who are asking to be the leaders of our nation and they do it by insulting those who should be their ideological base. THEY are the ones who need the votes and THEY are the ones who need to secure them. We are the people who work to pay for all the things D.C. seems to think we can’t do without. We have done nothing but compromise for the last thirteen years. If they can kiss the ass of the Chamber of Commerce and their contributors, they can kiss some constituent ass also.

Cindy Munford on March 24, 2014 at 6:31 PM

More.

I live in Illinois (at least until property values rebound, then ffft, I’m outta here). This month’s primary election had no Real Conservatives on the ballot for Governor, only a selection of RINOs. The Rebublican, Bruce Rauner, is buddy-buddy with Rahm Emmanuel, but I voted for him anyway. He has earned the hatred of the unions because he has openly stated he likes what Scott Walker has done in Wisconsin (TruCons: WALKER?! HE’S A RINO!!!)As Center-Right as Rauner is, he has the best chance of beating Quinn and maybe slowing this state’s descent into insolvency. Am I optimistic? Not really, even if he wins he stands little chance of winning real reform against the Chicago Democrat Machine (Cook County pretty much controls Springfield, to the dismay of the Downstaters). But it’s Rauner or Quinn. Period. No Perfect Conservative is going to appear at the last minute and be swept to victory.

Same with the Senate race. Little Dick Durbin is up for re-election against Jim Oberweis, a dairy millionaire who is certainly not a Real Conservative. But forcryinoutloud, TruCons, would you really say that since Oberweis is not a Real Conservative it would be better to return Little Dick Durbin to the Senate? Oberweis is a big underdog, but if he wins then it would ensure a Republican Senate Majority and give Real Conservatives like Ron Johnson (WI) and Ted Cruz a more powerful voice in the Senate. I dream of having someone like Cruz lead the Senate Judiciary committee, but that won’t happen unless the Democrats lose the majority.

NOTHING will change unless Harry Reid is denied the Senate leadership. TruCons can speculate what might happen if the hated RINOS win, and they might be right, but we d**n well know what will happen if they don’t.

brushman on March 24, 2014 at 6:33 PM

Reagan did, so by your own admitted standard he wasn’t a Real Conservative. You cannot be serious. If you are, this country is lost.

brushman on March 24, 2014 at 6:12 PM

And neither do dictators. Is that what you want this country to be? It’s time to grow up and become a REAL Conservative.

NOMOBO on March 24, 2014 at 6:16 PM

I’m pretty sure this guy’s just trolling. While there’s no shame in being “right wing”, few conservatives actually call themselves that. And even conservatives who oppose most compromises with the left do not generally claim to oppose the concept of “compromise” in general – even the crudest arguments are still of the form “real conservatives should not compromise on X”, and generally are succeeded by explanations for why said type of compromise is bad.

RINO in Name Only on March 24, 2014 at 6:38 PM

Never underestimate the ability of a Republican to say something stupid about abortion, rape, and gays right before the election.

I wonder if Nate Silver’s data accounts for that.

thinkingthought on March 24, 2014 at 6:46 PM

thinkingthought on March 24, 2014 at 6:46 PM

Never underestimate the Left and their media cronies to make something out of nothing and I am sure Mr. Silver has his fingers crossed.

Cindy Munford on March 24, 2014 at 7:14 PM

Real conservatives DO NOT compromise.
RightWingConservative on March 24, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Who was the last real conservative to be elected President?

GOPRanknFile on March 24, 2014 at 7:38 PM

Lesson to learn: don’t stand on principle to the point that you become blind to the big picture. If we’d elected Romney instead of Obama, we’d be a whole lot better off than we are today.

(And this is coming to you courtesy of a STAUNCH conservative.)

Bob Davis

Yeah, that philosophy has worked out great for the last 40-50 years, hasn’t it? Let’s just have no principles and keep rewarding politicians for screwing up. That’ll make them stop doing it for sure. Kind of like giving your kid $100 every time they miss curfew and then wondering why they keep missing curfew, lol.

xblade on March 24, 2014 at 7:47 PM

That’s very convincing. You sound just like a real Right Wing Conservative and not at all like a liberal douche-troll who is dumb and/or cynical enough to think someone actually buys your caricature.

RINO

Good point. Now, when your wife comes to you and says she wants to see other men on the weekends, make sure you tell her she can only cheat on you every other weekend and one night during the week. You know, in the name of compromise. I mean, you don’t want to be a purist now, do you?

xblade on March 24, 2014 at 7:52 PM

Lesson to learn: don’t stand on principle to the point that you become blind to the big picture. If we’d elected Romney instead of Obama, we’d be a whole lot better off than we are today.

(And this is coming to you courtesy of a STAUNCH conservative.)

Bob Davis

Yeah, that philosophy has worked out great for the last 40-50 years, hasn’t it? Let’s just have no principles and keep rewarding politicians for screwing up. That’ll make them stop doing it for sure. Kind of like giving your kid $100 every time they miss curfew and then wondering why they keep missing curfew, lol.

xblade on March 24, 2014 at 7:47 PM

How do you interpret what he said as advocating having no principles?

RINO in Name Only on March 24, 2014 at 7:53 PM

Agent of the Cross we have the effort growing… there is some stuff I cannot yet talk openly about which is going to be TREMENDOUS is in the coming election.

And more so we are Primarying (us being conservative Republicans) a couple of RINO’s with serious candidates like David Darnell.

This fight is going into overtime and the Democrats do not have the staying power so long as we get donations.

My opponent is the Democrat Speaker of the House Tina Kotek. I am not playing games here, but I am with deep inside knowledge.

Yes there is an establishment fight on the side, but they are actually weaker than we are here, and it is showing. Oregon will be red, mark my words.

OregonPolitician on March 24, 2014 at 7:53 PM

@RINO In name Only – really? I’m a troll because I won’t compromise. Only liberals like you only resort to name calling. At least I stand on principals unlike you. You must be related to Neville Chamberlain, you know the guy who compromised with Hilter, remember him? loo how that turned out. As for Bob Davis / brushman / NOMOBO, fine compromise all you want, because this is the mess we’re right now because of compromising with the enemy, but go ahead & compromise all you want, because in the end, all the blame WILL be put on you for damaging this country even more , by electing RINOS. See, no name calling in this post, but people like you & the Republican Establishment can keep calling people like me all the names you want, but in the end True conservatives will stand by their beliefs & principals. Good Day Sir(or madam)!

RightWingConservative on March 24, 2014 at 7:59 PM

IF a conservative president HAD been elected, this country would be in alot better shape than it is right now.

RightWingConservative on March 24, 2014 at 8:02 PM

That’s very convincing. You sound just like a real Right Wing Conservative and not at all like a liberal douche-troll who is dumb and/or cynical enough to think someone actually buys your caricature.

RINO

Good point. Now, when your wife comes to you and says she wants to see other men on the weekends, make sure you tell her she can only cheat on you every other weekend and one night during the week. You know, in the name of compromise. I mean, you don’t want to be a purist now, do you?

xblade on March 24, 2014 at 7:52 PM

Take 5 seconds to actually read his comment and ask yourself if it is even remotely plausible that “RightWingConservative” is anything other than some douche-bag from Daily Kos trying to stir sh*t up.

And next time, do the rest of us a favor and actually read the posts you’re replying to before you reply.

RINO in Name Only on March 24, 2014 at 8:09 PM

As for Ronald Reagan, at that time, yes, I’m sure compromising was a good thing back then, but in today’s world, No freakin’ way. I do respect the memory of him & what he did, but comprising with the enemy (liberals) is way too dangerous now then it was back in the 80′s

RightWingConservative on March 24, 2014 at 8:09 PM

Woof! Who is that hideous looking woman reading the news in the video? It distracted me from Silver’s equally hideous comb-over.

bofh on March 24, 2014 at 8:21 PM

@RINO In name Only – really? I’m a troll because I won’t compromise. Only liberals like you only resort to name calling. At least I stand on principals unlike you. You must be related to Neville Chamberlain, you know the guy who compromised with Hilter, remember him? loo how that turned out. As for Bob Davis / brushman / NOMOBO, fine compromise all you want, because this is the mess we’re right now because of compromising with the enemy, but go ahead & compromise all you want, because in the end, all the blame WILL be put on you for damaging this country even more , by electing RINOS. See, no name calling in this post, but people like you & the Republican Establishment can keep calling people like me all the names you want, but in the end True conservatives will stand by their beliefs & principals. Good Day Sir(or madam)!

RightWingConservative on March 24, 2014 at 7:59 PM

No, you’re right, my mistake, you don’t sound like you’re trolling at all.

(On a more serious note, congratulations for getting both me and xblade to feed you. Now run along.)

RINO in Name Only on March 24, 2014 at 8:27 PM

I do not find it fair to compare Silver to Rove. Rove was someone who actively led GOP campaigns, then became a media figure who framed everything on how/why Republicans should win.

Silver on the other hand is simply a statistician. Many people on the right disliked him because he said Obama would win. Unfortunately for those people, he was just looking at the stats and reporting facts. Now he is doing the same in saying the GOP will win this round of elections. The prediction is what the stats suggest.

He should not be pigeonholed into the “lefts Rove” category just because he rightly predicted Obama victory. What, was he supposed to predict wrongly that Romney would win just to endear himself to us? No. He calls it as he sees it. A rarity that I like.

Besides, Carville was their Rove before we even had a Rove.

eski502 on March 24, 2014 at 9:43 PM