So, what other false headlines are acceptable in WaPo blogger world?

posted at 9:31 am on March 23, 2014 by Dustin Siggins

At The Washington Post, it often seems like liberal bloggers rule the roost. And as the 2014 campaign ramps up, two of those bloggers have made it clear that telling a falsehood is perfectly ethical — as long as it starts a discussion.

Last week, two Wonk Blog writers claimed the Keystone Pipeline would benefit the Koch brothers. They did so by pointing out some information that would be devastating, were it based in reality:

You might expect the biggest lease owner in Canada’s oil sands, or tar sands, to be one of the international oil giants, like Exxon Mobil or Royal Dutch Shell. But that isn’t the case. The biggest lease holder in the northern Alberta oil sands is a subsidiary of Koch Industries, the privately-owned cornerstone of the fortune of conservative Koch brothers Charles and David.

This false information (more on that below) was also stated in the headline. The bloggers, Steven Mufson and Juliet Eilperin, claimed this finding would likely “inflame” the Keystone Pipeline debate, even though their post noted the Kochs have zero benefit from the pipeline:

The link between Koch and Keystone XL is, however, indirect at best. Koch’s oil production in northern Alberta is “negligible,” according to industry sources and quarterly publications of the provincial government. Moreover, Koch has not reserved any space in the Keystone XL pipeline, a process that usually takes place before a pipeline is built.  The pipeline also does not run anywhere near Koch’s refining facilities. And TransCanada, owner of the Keystone routes, says Koch is not expected to be one of the pipeline’s customers.

Enter Power Line’s John Hinderaker, who proved that not only will the Koch Brothers likely not benefit from Keystone, their interests might actually be harmed by its presence. :

The astonishing thing about the IFG report is that it admitted that the Keystone Pipeline will damage Koch’s economic interests. Keystone would funnel Canadian oil to the Midwest, thereby driving down oil prices in that region. The original IFG report admitted that this would cost Koch $120 billion! Now, that is a stupid number based on a 50-year projection. But still, the basic point is correct: the Keystone Pipeline would hurt Koch Enterprises economically, which is why Koch has never come out in favor of the pipeline or lobbied on its behalf.

Furthermore, they aren’t actually the largest leaser in the oil sands:

So the fundamental point of the Post story, which relied uncritically on a goofball far-left report, is dead wrong. Moreover, the Post story itself acknowledges that the tar sands encompass 35 million acres, so Koch’s 1.1 million comprise less than 3% of the total. The whole point of this exercise is to make the Keystone Pipeline all about Koch, and that premise is implausible from the start.

Here comes the kicker — Mufson and Eilperin actually responded to Hinderaker, and closed their sophomoric defense with this:

The Powerline article itself, and its tone, is strong evidence that issues surrounding the Koch brothers’ political and business interests will stir and inflame public debate in this election year. That’s why we wrote the piece.

Jonah Goldberg hit the nail on the proverbial head when he commented on the situation:

By this logic any unfair attack posing as reporting is worthwhile when people try to correct the record. Why not just have at it and accuse the Kochs of killing JFK or hiding the Malaysian airplane? The resulting criticism would once again provide “strong evidence that issues surrounding the Koch brothers’ political and business interests will stir and inflame public debate in this election year.”

This whole debacle reminds me of a 2012 post by Greg Sargent, who as I pointed out at the time blogged that even though the Priorities USA Action ad claiming Mitt Romney was responsible for a woman’s death from cancer was false, “the ad dramatizes a larger story about what has happened to the middle class in this country…”

In 2014, many Democrats have made many dishonest statements about the Koch brothers and their involvement in American politics. I look forward to the Post holding Mufson and Eilperin accountable for their damaging contribution to the culture of falsehoods.

Okay, so that was another false statement — I have no doubt these two will continue to make income at the Post for writing dishonest blog posts. But my comment may get a conversation started about media accountability, so by Post blogger logic, it’s a-okay.

(H/T to Red State’s Moe Lane.)


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They’ve adopted the Harry Reid offense.

Tim Zank on March 23, 2014 at 9:38 AM

The Washington Post Holds Bloggers and Columnist Accountable for Their Misleading Statements.

That sounds like a headline at The Onion.

Selkirk on March 23, 2014 at 9:39 AM

<blockquoteSo the Post could have written a very different story about the Keystone Pipeline. The Post could have written that opposition to the pipeline is being funded in large part by a billionaire who has a personal financial interest in the pipeline not being built. And that’s not all! The billionaire is a political crony who has used his connections in Washington to get rich and to fleece consumers and taxpayers. Now, with Keystone, he is doing it again! How is that for a story that would “stir and inflame public debate in this election year”?

The Post, of course, didn’t write that story. But the Post has written about Tom Steyer. Not only that–what a coincidence!–Juliet Eilperin has written about Steyer. In this February 2013 puff piece, to which Mufson also contributed, she promoted Steyer’s campaign to be named Energy Secretary:

John Podesta, who chairs the liberal think tank Center for American Progress, said Steyer has “got the right skill set, the understanding and attitude to lead an energy transformation in this country.”

“I think he would be a fabulous choice for energy secretary,” Podesta added, “and I’ve let my friends in the administration know that.”

There is lots more, all of it adoring. Of course, neither Steyer nor Eilperin mentioned that killing Keystone, capping carbon emissions and so on would all benefit Steyer financially.

So we have a contrast that couldn’t be clearer: the Washington Post published a false story about support for Keystone because it fit the Democratic Party’s agenda. It covered up a similar, but true story about opposition to the pipeline (and about “green” politics in general) because that, too, fit the Democratic Party’s agenda. I don’t think we need to look any further to connect the dots.

And yet, a still deeper level of corruption is on display here. Juliet Eilperin is a reporter for the Washington Post who covers, among other things, environmental politics. As I wrote in my prior post, she is married to Andrew Light. Light writes on climate policy for the Center for American Progress, a far-left organization that has carried on a years-long vendetta against Charles and David Koch on its web site, Think Progress. Light is also a member of the Obama administration, as Senior Adviser to the Special Envoy on Climate Change in the Department of State. The Center for American Progress is headed by John Podesta, who chaired Barack Obama’s transition team and is now listed as a “special advisor” to the Obama administration. Note that Ms. Eilperin quoted Podesta, her husband’s boss, in her puff piece on Tom Steyer.

Oh, yes–one more thing. Guess who sits on the board of the Center for American Progress? Yup. Tom Steyer.

This kind of incest is common in Washington. You can’t separate the reporters from the activists from the Obama administration officials from the billionaire cronies. Often, as in this instance, the same people wear two or more of those hats simultaneously. However bad you think the corruption and cronyism in Washington are, they are worse than you imagine. And if you think the Washington Post is part of a free and independent press, think again.

Power Line

Wethal on March 23, 2014 at 9:41 AM

A typo: an accidental mistake
A WaPo: an intentional mistake

Flange on March 23, 2014 at 9:43 AM

What is increasingly and distressingly obvious is that conservatives have no response to this except to act butthurt. It is as if we were in a mudfight and the otherside started shooting rifles back in our direction and our response is to stand in the open going “Wha….?”

Leftists play for keeps. They play dirty. The only value worth worrying about for a leftist is winning. Playing against a group like that means being forced to have more of a strategy than being butthurt.

JimBob on March 23, 2014 at 9:44 AM

As long as it’s for the greater good, (in the liberal media’s minds), publishing false stories, and lying to the public is now considered “responsible journalism”.

Rovin on March 23, 2014 at 9:44 AM

This story gives meaning to the phrase “to lie like a Democrat.” Reminds me of the old aphorism that you should never play chess with a pigeon. Even though the pigeon does not know what it is doing, it knocks down the pieces, defecates on the board, and then struts around triumphantly regardless…

Trying to discuss valid journalism with the Post or the Times for that matter is the same thing.

Rogervzv on March 23, 2014 at 9:47 AM

The ends justifies the means.

crankyoldlady on March 23, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Undeniable truth of life: liberals will do absolutely anything to win. Lie, steal, cheat, fraud, etc.

The GOP trying to take the ‘high road’ will only see them lose time and time again. Unless they play just at dirty, don’t ever expect to maintain a majority. The rules have already been set.

rightside on March 23, 2014 at 9:48 AM

The Powerline article itself, and its tone, is strong evidence that issues surrounding the Koch brothers’ political and business interests will stir and inflame public debate in this election year. That’s why we wrote the piece.

I was raised in Chicago, so I understand Liberalese. Let me translate for the benefit of you who don’t. This means “We think conservatives are dreadful people and even if we slander them with falsehoods they deserve it.”

radjah shelduck on March 23, 2014 at 9:49 AM

Tella lie over and over….

CW on March 23, 2014 at 9:49 AM

Even though the pigeon does not know what it is doing, it knocks down the pieces, defecates on the board, and then struts around triumphantly regardless…

Rogervzv on March 23, 2014 at 9:47 AM

Sounds a lot like the President.

Flange on March 23, 2014 at 9:50 AM

Another multi-level coordinated attack. Harry Reid issues the marching orders right from the Senate floor.

forest on March 23, 2014 at 9:51 AM

Ive tweeted at both. No response. One of em looks like a tranny. Just saying

bucsox79 on March 23, 2014 at 9:54 AM

https://twitter.com/eilperin

bucsox79 on March 23, 2014 at 9:55 AM

[Wethal on March 23, 2014 at 9:41 AM]

I’m running about 20 minutes behind you posting that excerpt. Good on ya for getting that posted.

And hats off to you Dustin for both the post and tenor of it.

Dusty on March 23, 2014 at 9:57 AM

They go after Fox because we’ve gone after CNN and MSM bias for years.

They’ve only discovered the Kochs to counter criticism do Soros.

They think it nullifies their enemies arguement.

As usual, they exaggerate, over react and over play their hand.

Ben Hur on March 23, 2014 at 10:04 AM

On the other hand, no one has blogged about how one of the more vocal opponents of Keystone and domestic energy, Julia Louis Dreyfus benefits through a family fortune if it fails.

Meh, sorry about wiki but they had a good bio.

Leopold Louis-Dreyfus’s great-grandson, Gérard Louis-Dreyfus, was chairman of Louis Dreyfus Energy Services, a subsidiary of the group involved in crude-oil trading, gas investments and infrastructure. Gérard is also the father of American actress Julia Louis-Dreyfus, the Emmy-winning star of Seinfeld. Another branch of the dynasty, based in Paris, was headed by Robert Louis-Dreyfus (who was also the CEO of Adidas) until his death in 2009. It is currently overseen by his widow, Russian-born Margarita Bogdanova Louis-Dreyfus. A third-branch of the family’s business is headed by Philippe Louis-Dreyfus (born 1945) and is concerned primarily with offshore industrial activities and freight-shipping operations.

Seems that would be … ya know … easy to blog about.

hawkdriver on March 23, 2014 at 10:08 AM

How is one going to fight against stuff like this except with facts?

That’s fine and dandy, but the lie has already been presented and established. After that, facts don’t mean squat. Who out there, sitting on the edge of their seat, waiting to find out what the Kardashians are doing in their next episode, is even going to know about this?

Why doesn’t some enterprising lawyer out there sue the living S out of Mufson and Eilperin for defamation or slander, pro bono? Hit them where it really hurts – the pocketbook.

The Koch brothers are bad … that’s all anyone needs to know, and for a lot of people, that’s all they will know.

Ruckus_Tom on March 23, 2014 at 10:09 AM

Isolate, demonize*

*Saul Alinsky.

FOWG1 on March 23, 2014 at 10:10 AM

The logical extension of the Ratherite “false but accurate” meme–false, but stimulating. (Note to WaPo: CBS fired Rather.)

Barnestormer on March 23, 2014 at 10:11 AM

I’m running about 20 minutes behind you posting that excerpt. Good on ya for getting that posted.

And hats off to you Dustin for both the post and tenor of it.

Dusty on March 23, 2014 at 9:57 AM

Not only is there incredible incest between the Dems and the liberal media, but I bet their kids all go to Sidwell Friends, despite the liberal “class war” and support for public school teachers unions.

Wethal on March 23, 2014 at 10:18 AM

I’ve seen pics of Muffson and Heilporn – they’re made of straw!

vnvet on March 23, 2014 at 10:19 AM

Always love that picture. BTW…haven’t seen Fiona in awhile. She get a new Obama Phone and, maybe, a job?

Dingbat63 on March 23, 2014 at 10:20 AM

Steven Mufson and Juliet Eilperin are ‘alleged’ reporters, when in fact, they’re whores of the DNC.

My apology to whores, who are at least honest in what they do for a living.

GarandFan on March 23, 2014 at 10:20 AM

Libs re-living “The Crucible” every day.

elowe on March 23, 2014 at 10:26 AM

I wouldn’t pay too much attention to what Steven Mufson and Juliet Eilperin say at the Washington Post.

Mufson is a convicted pedophile and Eilperin is a member of the communist party.

In an attempt to stir and inflame public debate.

jaime on March 23, 2014 at 10:34 AM

“What is increasingly and distressingly obvious is that conservatives have no response to this”

Conservatives do not control any of the MSM print outlets, so even when stories are written, they will never be run. So all there is to do is to continue to point out to all how outlets like WP and the NYT are just liberal party organs; or in more general terms, we must attack their credibility every minute of every day.

Sadly, the MSM is so compromised that we are best off simply supporting the destruction of the entire industry at this point. We can’t save it, and we can’t convert it – which leaves helping it to destroy itself as our best and only option.

Tom Servo on March 23, 2014 at 10:35 AM

I can’t even identify with these kind of people. It’s like they’re from another galaxy. They steadfastly defend progressivism as though it’s their only path to freedom when it’s the exact opposite, and all empirical evidence indicates such.

They defend environmentalism and buy into man-made global warming when every indication -and logic itself- defies them. And if they get their way, they’ll be spending more of their own money for less return.

They defend abortion as if the alternative would mean instant death for the mother and her entire bloodline. Yet if they got their way, they’d set about creating a Hitler-esque society of modern-day blonde haired, blue eyed racists.

They defend the rhetoric of tax the rich and evil corporations when their policies have grown the income gap and further decapitated the middle class. Then they rely on these evil corporations (and unions) to kick back their generosity to fund their campaigns.

And they attack individuals in a way that would garner a public execution were Conservatives to run the same play.

In the end, if they were to win they would be enslaved. They would be standing in the same bread lines as the rest of us. Even those who had special access would be forever without freedom and always looking over their shoulder as one false move -one inglorious statement could land them in the traitor bin awaiting their own execution, all on the whim of the dear leader in charge. They want North Korea for themselves.

It’s lunacy.

They’re all Dennis Rodman.

BKeyser on March 23, 2014 at 10:50 AM

In my opinion this is one of the most important topics that I have seen on Hot Air, and the responses are spot on.

The Media is the most powerful force in the country in shaping opinions, our culture , our politics and our government.

The Media is currently controlled primarily by Leftists, who, as noted above, strongly believe that the end justifies the means. Any means is acceptable to them.

We, meaning conservatives and patriots, are at war with the Mainstream Media. The Media is the enemy of conservatives and the United States as it was founded.

I think that the first step is for all conservatives to recognize that we are at war with the media and not just in some battle of wits or polite difference of opinion. We need to develop an explicit strategy for fighting that war. We can fight this war on our own terms and in keeping with our principles. We do not have to compromise our principles to take on the Media and defeat them. We did not have to become Nazis or stoop to their methods to defeat them. But, as in WW II, we do need a strategy and need to fight the fight with absolute full bore intensity.

justltl on March 23, 2014 at 11:05 AM

If someone blogs a delierate lie about Hillary, the Times and Post will back it? If not, why not.

Sabercat2 on March 23, 2014 at 11:07 AM

You think is new? Inflammatory lies are part and parcel of the Left.

Evan Thomas, when confronted with the fact that Marines did NOT flush a Koran down a toilet contrary to his magazine’s claims which incited riots and were traced to 11 deaths, responded: “facts don’t matter. It’s the narrative that matters.” In other words, the narrative that America was metaphorically flushing the Koran down the toilet.

rrpjr on March 23, 2014 at 11:12 AM

Mufson and Eilperin clearly need to have genital mutilations performed upon them. The resulting outcry would shine a light upon the issues surrounding the Koch brother’s involvement in American electoral politics. Perhaps a few kidnapped and imprisoned journalists (a la Turkey) would help raise awareness as well?

PD Quig on March 23, 2014 at 11:12 AM

A WaPo: an intentional mistake

Flange on March 23, 2014 at 9:43 AM

A whopper or a WaPo…

What difference, at this point, does it make?

climbnjump on March 23, 2014 at 11:14 AM

I would like to see an organization formed to first develop a strategy to fight the war with the leftist media and secondly carry out the strategy. The organization could consist of conservative politicians, business people, conservative media members and conservative thinkers and supporters.

justltl on March 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM

I followed this on Power Line yesterday. One of the Leftist Trolls there desperately tried to hijack the comments, by (correctly) stating that PL’s John Hinderaker, a lawyer by trade, had in the past done work for Koch Industries.

Said troll was politely asked to cite what exactly Hinderaker got wrong in his disembowelment of the WaPo, but of course he went “into conference”.

Del Dolemonte on March 23, 2014 at 11:20 AM

If there’s a chance someone will believe it, and it may help to prop up their bankercrat masters, there is no lie that they will not create, repeat, and defend.

S. D. on March 23, 2014 at 11:21 AM

Won’t change until ‘journalists’ are held accountable – via lawsuit for libel/slander, criminal prosecution, punished financially and physically for these actions.

When the first one or two become penniless, professionally outcast for the rest of their lives, and spend some time in jail, perhaps – that’s when this bullshit will begin to end.

Midas on March 23, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Someone like Ed Morrisey or Allahpundit or Michelle Malkin or Rush Limbaugh or any number of other conservative media people would be in a very good position to form an organization such as I mentioned.
I think that it could potentially save the country.

justltl on March 23, 2014 at 11:32 AM

I think that the first step is for all conservatives to recognize that we are at war with the media and not just in some battle of wits or polite difference of opinion. We need to develop an explicit strategy for fighting that war. We can fight this war on our own terms and in keeping with our principles. We do not have to compromise our principles to take on the Media and defeat them. We did not have to become Nazis or stoop to their methods to defeat them. But, as in WW II, we do need a strategy and need to fight the fight with absolute full bore intensity.

justltl on March 23, 2014 at 11:05 AM

Every time–on every website–that I have ever suggested that conservatives across America are contributing to the demise of our culture by continuing to patronize Hollywood movies and entertainment, I hear crickets in response. If you are not willing to withdraw your financial support from the news and entertainment industry THEN YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM. Stop BS’ing yourself and rationalizing because you enjoy their products and you are “just one of tens of millions who do so.” That is the same rationale that losers give for not voting–that ostensibly their vote doesn’t make a difference.

Here’s your plan: 1) turn off your f*cking TV 2) close your Netflix account 3) stop paying to see their movies. We could bring the news and entertainment industry to their knees in one year. We could bring about a dramatic change in the coverage of American politics.

You get a vote, but you will deny it. You will rationalize it.

YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.

PD Quig on March 23, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Surprised?

This is all of a piece of the recent demonstrations by the proggies that “truth” no longer means anything. From Barky on down, blatant unapologetic lying has become not just acceptable, but the new norm. They probably congratulate each other on who can invent the biggest lie and tell it with a straight face. There is no limit, and the MFM have discovered that the lofo’s will accept just about anything, as long as it fits their carefully-managed culture of personality.

This doesn’t end well.

bofh on March 23, 2014 at 11:37 AM

This author makes a grave mistake calling these two “bloggers”. They are not bloggers, they are journalists.

And they are evil incarnate and they are the enemy.

chuckh on March 23, 2014 at 11:43 AM

PD Quig on March 23, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Yep. There are many potentially effective tactics to use to fight the war.
What we need is an overall strategy and effective organization to formulate and institute that strategy.

justltl on March 23, 2014 at 11:44 AM

It would take only one or a few people of influence and energy to start the process. Think of the Founders and the American Revolution.
We really are in dire straits as a nation – morally, culturally, socially and economically. Maybe, in the grand scheme of things, worse than we were at the time of the founding of the nation.

justltl on March 23, 2014 at 11:51 AM

This is actually how the left’s propaganda works. The LIF, while trying to find the Post’s Lifestyle section on-line, saw the headline, knows nothing about the story except the pipeline will benefit the Koch Brothers. They know nothing of the truth, of the attempt to correct the record, nor of any criticism of the authors. The thought is imbedded in their mind that the only ones who will benefit from the pipeline are the Kochs.

The only way to counter this is to put out a story, with some bland, narrowly true headline such as, “The solution to unemployment is in our hands” and do a story about the pipeline and the jobs it will create and the positive aspects it will create.

Do you like paying $4.75/gal for gasoline? DO you like the unemployment rate at 7% with many more people no longer looking for work? Do you like the increased prices you’re paying for food? Much of those increases are because the pipeline hasn’t been built. Explain it!!!

bflat879 on March 23, 2014 at 11:52 AM

First they came for Sarah Palin….

renalin on March 23, 2014 at 11:57 AM

The fact that they all come out with the same lies at the same time with almost the same words shows someone is telling them what to say and laughing about it at the same time. But if we turn them off we won’t know about their lies, will we? Whoever said we need to fight them tooth and nail is right but I’m not sure how. We would have to build an alternative as big as the one they have. Maybe buying them out one by one would work. If there are any rich conservatives left they might want to consider that.

crankyoldlady on March 23, 2014 at 11:59 AM

Up until now we have expected our representatives to protect us and it was a waste of time. Bypass them. They are useless. It’s time for civil disobedience. But what we really need is leadership.

crankyoldlady on March 23, 2014 at 12:04 PM

Back during the election, my wife and her mother were in our family room watching the evening news. I heard the news anchor mention the bit about Romney somehow causing a woman to die of cancer. My mother-in-law exclaimed, “Oh! That’s terrible!”

Now that, right there, is the problem.

justltl on March 23, 2014 at 12:05 PM

The older generation was trained to believe what they hear on tv. They grew up with Walter Cronkite who was liberal but didn’t let it into his work. I don’t think younger people tend to be quite that stupid. We need to teach kids to be skeptical. They aren’t learning it in school.

crankyoldlady on March 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Oh, Miss Bug-eyes! How I’ve missed you!

/hearts

CurtZHP on March 23, 2014 at 12:20 PM

I followed this on Power Line yesterday. One of the Leftist Trolls there desperately tried to hijack the comments
Del Dolemonte on March 23, 2014 at 11:20 AM

I can’t find the comments on the site. Can you send a link?

rrpjr on March 23, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Can’t really justify gubRmint if there ain’t a boogeyman to protect you from… Lawd knows they can’t protect you from real murderers and rapists etc.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on March 23, 2014 at 12:36 PM

I feel certain that many people here, in the space of this thread alone, could come up with many effective tactics for combatting the enemy. There are already some ideas mentioned above. But these ideas go nowhere unless they are analyzed, organized and instituted.

It is equivalent to classic warfare. And the war can be won. And it can be fought and won in a manner consistent with moral, legal and conservative principles. All that is required initially is for one or a few brave and energetic individuals of principle to sound the alarm and begin the process. I think that the individual or individuals would, of necessity, be recognizable individuals of current standing in the media or politics.

justltl on March 23, 2014 at 12:43 PM

So we whined when Bush wouldn’t defend himself from false accusations; we whined when McCain wouldn’t get in the trenches and fight Obama; we whined when Romney and the republicans wouldn’t fight the dems and now we’re whining when the same tactics are being used? Give me a break! If we can’t come up with our own tactics then we might as well get out of the fight, if we were ever in it. Some words that are fitting for conservatives as well as republicans, “come back when you grow a pair, why are you still talking with your nose in the air?”

Jackson on March 23, 2014 at 12:46 PM

It is equivalent to classic warfare. And the war can be won. And it can be fought and won in a manner consistent with moral, legal and conservative principles. All that is required initially is for one or a few brave and energetic individuals of principle to sound the alarm and begin the process. I think that the individual or individuals would, of necessity, be recognizable individuals of current standing in the media or politics.

justltl on March 23, 2014 at 12:43 PM

That’s it. I think it would take a group at this point. The problem has become too big for one leader and it would take time. This requires a tidal wave and soon.

crankyoldlady on March 23, 2014 at 12:46 PM

…troll free!…and we all know that at least noforeskin is lurking…since he peed himself on another thread today.

KOOLAID2 on March 23, 2014 at 12:46 PM

I followed this on Power Line yesterday. One of the Leftist Trolls there desperately tried to hijack the comments

Del Dolemonte on March 23, 2014 at 11:20 AM

I can’t find the comments on the site. Can you send a link?

rrpjr on March 23, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Comments at the bottom.

Del Dolemonte on March 23, 2014 at 12:48 PM

1984… 2014…

At this point, what difference does it make?

Kraken on March 23, 2014 at 12:49 PM

I heard that both Mufson and Eilperin cruise around in a car trying to pick up children to molest. Is it true I don’t know but it will generate conversation so it’s ok to say it.

bbinfl on March 23, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Comments at the bottom.

Del Dolemonte on March 23, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Strange, but they don’t appear for me. I’ve never been able to read comments or “responses” on Powerline. Some kind of quirk.

rrpjr on March 23, 2014 at 1:00 PM

crankyoldlady on March 23, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Offhand, I would say that a group of three people could begin the process: a current media member, a current or retired politician and a retired military member of high rank.
All strongly conservative, of course, and all feeling strongly that the leftist media is indeed the enemy within.

justltl on March 23, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Comments at the bottom.

Del Dolemonte on March 23, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Tried Google chrome and now I have them. I use Explorer. Thanks.

rrpjr on March 23, 2014 at 1:03 PM

I can’t find the comments on the site. Can you send a link?

rrpjr on March 23, 2014 at 12:32 PM


Comments (called “Responses” on Powerline) regarding PL’s response to the WaPo’s response to PL’s original article are here.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on March 23, 2014 at 1:07 PM

Comments at the bottom.

Del Dolemonte on March 23, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Strange, but they don’t appear for me. I’ve never been able to read comments or “responses” on Powerline. Some kind of quirk.

rrpjr on March 23, 2014 at 1:00 PM

Tried Google chrome and now I have them. I use Explorer. Thanks.

rrpjr on March 23, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Switching browsers is usually all that is needed!

Del Dolemonte on March 23, 2014 at 1:14 PM

The fact that they all come out with the same lies at the same time with almost the same words shows someone is telling them what to say and laughing about it at the same time. But if we turn them off we won’t know about their lies, will we? Whoever said we need to fight them tooth and nail is right but I’m not sure how. We would have to build an alternative as big as the one they have. Maybe buying them out one by one would work. If there are any rich conservatives left they might want to consider that.

crankyoldlady on March 23, 2014 at 11:59 AM

There are conference calls being held between the big papers and networks and political spinners including in the White House to set the narrative and the lead stories, and there are also newsgroups like Journolist to disseminate slower-moving spin.

Years ago when Barry first came to power we heard about these, but since then it seems that their prog-Omerta has been more bulletproof.

slickwillie2001 on March 23, 2014 at 1:39 PM

bbinfl on March 23, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Nailed.

S. D. on March 23, 2014 at 1:40 PM

Speaking of falsehoods, the IRS calls the mandate penalty…wait…Goebbels couldn’t do as well…

As this helpful IRS explainer details, Americans who go without insurance in 2014 should “make an individual shared responsibility payment with your 2014 tax return filed in 2015.”

Schadenfreude on March 23, 2014 at 3:16 PM

I see a new Democrat All Day Sucker has added some new comments to the Power Line article…

“a still deeper level of corruption is on display here. Juliet Eilperin is a reporter for the Washington Post who covers, among other things, environmental politics. As I wrote in my prior post, she is married to Andrew Light. Light writes on climate policy for the Center for American Progress, a far-left organization that has carried on a years-long vendetta against Charles and David Koch on its web site, Think Progress. Light is also a member of the Obama administration, as Senior Adviser to the Special Envoy on Climate Change in the Department of State. The Center for American Progress is headed by John Podesta, who chaired Barack Obama’s transition team and is now listed as a “special advisor” to the Obama administration”……What’s corrupt about this? are you new to American politics?

Someone from Planet Earth replies:

There’s zero disclosure about any of this by the Post reporters. Ever heard the term “conflict of interest”? Are you new to integrity or are the comprehension skills a bit dull?

Original Dim Bulb:

are you an idiot? What is “corrupt” about this? a conflict of interest implies only the potential for bias, not a likelihood.

Planet Earth:

I’ll ignore the infantile name calling. Are you trying to say that there is no bias, no lying in this WP article? They do not try to deny it. Being biased and lying while pretending it’s news reporting is corrupt. There is a conflict of interest and it is obviously a factor in the resulting bias and lies that are documented by Mr. Hinderaker.

Dim Bulb responds:

Bias cannot be determined from the article. Even in light of a possible COI. Eilperin use to be WP’s House reporter. She must have moved on. She has a good reputation while Hinderaker (who?)/ Powerline…never heard of it.

“IT BURNS!”

Del Dolemonte on March 23, 2014 at 3:29 PM

New followup post from Power Line’s Scott Johnson:

To borrow Brit Hume’s judgment, John Hinderaker has “eviscerated” the posts by Washington Post reporters Steven Mufson on Koch Industries and the Canadian tar sands. Mufson and Eilperin work full time for the Post. Yet it took both of them to produce the farrago of misinformation and vacuity on display in their two posts. You’d think one of them could have handled it all by himself (or herself).

Between the two of them, however, subject-verb agreement remains elusive. In their justification of their original post, they write: “The Powerline article itself, and its tone, is [sic] strong evidence that issues surrounding the Koch brothers’ political and business interests will stir and inflame public debate in this election year.”

The next sentence concludes their second post: “That’s why we wrote the [original] piece.” Yet John hadn’t asked why they wrote the piece. He figured that out on his own without any help from Mufson or Eilperin. He challenged their purported facts and implications.

Mufson and Eilperin prefer not to join issue with John on the substance of their original post. Nevertheless, even the inane motive they ascribe to themselves for writing the article is an obvious falsehood.

Del Dolemonte on March 23, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Crap, but accurate.

Axeman on March 23, 2014 at 6:29 PM

The older generation was trained to believe what they hear on tv. They grew up with Walter Cronkite who was liberal but didn’t let it into his work. I don’t think younger people tend to be quite that stupid. We need to teach kids to be skeptical. They aren’t learning it in school.

crankyoldlady on March 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Right. Cronkite was the anchor of CBS News. It was CBS News who in 1963 floated the story that Dallas school children cheered the assassination of John F. Kennedy (when they didn’t know the reason why school was suddenly cut to a half day). It was CBS News that was behind the story that conservative Dallas killed Kennedy.

Axeman on March 23, 2014 at 6:40 PM

Translation of WaPo: “It’s OK to lie if it happens to create more hits to the blog, errr . . . we mean “more discussion.”

EdmundBurke247 on March 23, 2014 at 8:14 PM

I see a new Democrat All Day Sucker has added some new comments to the Power Line article…

Del Dolemonte on March 23, 2014 at 3:29 PM

All Day Sucker is back in the Power Line comments. First, Planet Earth follows up a previous post:

Rather than throwing names around, why don’t you consider sticking to the point? John outlined a clear cut case of journalistic corruption. It’s a charge that not even the Post reporters themselves bothered to deny in their response. Why would that be do you suppose? They don’t deny it because they cannot. Even many idiots would be able to make that simple deduction. Yet you continue to ask “What’s corrupt?” about this obvious corruption.

Now if you have evidence or information contrary to what has been provided in this post, I’m certain I and everybody else would love to hear it and be given the opportunity to change our minds and clear the good name of these Post reporters. Short of that, to continue flailing around with name calling and subjecting us to your incoherent diatribes regarding thought process vagaries of the left and the right (with you above it all apparently) while persisting with your denials of corruption at the Washington Post, well it all starts to look a little, dare I say, idiotic.

Dim Bulb weakly responds…notice his blissful ignorance of how Power Line’s Hinderaker helped bring down Dan Rather!

You didnt think this one out. So “these Post reporters”..their inability to deny COI or any type of journalistic misconduct equals guilt? WP and other major news outlets likely have what are called “preferred journalistic practices” a set of guidelines. Many of these guidelines will contain clauses that forbid journalists from entering into any further dialogues on any topic written by their agency or discussed in other media…. or if there is no such clause… Perhaps they dont care to, for what ever reason. Maybe they their lives are busy with other more important things than responding to someone like Hinderaker…a nobody. It cheapens their efforts.

WP..though losing boat loads of cash each year, still have top notch legal counsel at their disposal. They are considered an elite institution World wide. Mistakes certainly happen but they are rare. Why?..lawsuits are expensive and people can be fired..disgraced etc.

So maybe youre not an idiot..though you seem yourself unsure of it, you do lack the ability of reflective, critical thought. Thats my point..not the substance of this story..dont care either way.

(Notice the eloquent composition and correct punctuation! A Democrat Rocket Scientist, for sure!)

Del Dolemonte on March 23, 2014 at 9:27 PM

More Power Line High-Q Democrat Trolling:

Another motive might have been to further publicize the Koch Brothers name. These two creeps are trying to buy our democracy, and people ought to know about it.

As for the accuracy of the WaPo article, the political Right–who gave us McCarthyism, witch hunts, dirty tricks, hate radio, Rovean politics, Swiftboating, right-wing think tanks, and Fox News–is in no positon to complain about lying.

Del Dolemonte on March 24, 2014 at 12:14 AM

It would take only one or a few people of influence and energy to start the process. Think of the Founders and the American Revolution.
We really are in dire straits as a nation – morally, culturally, socially and economically. Maybe, in the grand scheme of things, worse than we were at the time of the founding of the nation.

justltl on March 23, 2014 at 11:51 AM

More to your point- think of the impact “Common Sense” by Paine had on the masses.

Odie1941 on March 24, 2014 at 11:31 AM

It would take only one or a few people of influence and energy to start the process. Think of the Founders and the American Revolution.
We really are in dire straits as a nation – morally, culturally, socially and economically. Maybe, in the grand scheme of things, worse than we were at the time of the founding of the nation.

justltl on March 23, 2014 at 11:51 AM

More to your point – think of the impact “Common Sense” by Paine had on the masses.

Odie1941 on March 24, 2014 at 11:32 AM

These Dem bloggers reek of desperation and dishonesty. Thanks to Powerlineblog for setting the record straight.

neyney on March 24, 2014 at 1:03 PM

The Left knows their lies work with their followers because they know their followers are as dumb as a bag of hammers. All that matters is that their handlers make them angry about something – no facts needed. This same scenario is repeated every week.

earlgrey on March 24, 2014 at 3:59 PM