NY gun owners burn registration forms in protest

posted at 11:01 am on March 23, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

This event actually took place last weekend, but I hadn’t caught wind of the story until one of the participants sent in some news clips of it. Hundreds of gun rights advocates gathered in Upstate New York to send a clear message to Albany, Governor Andrew Cuomo and Second Amendment proponents around the state that they would not be complying with the repressive SAFE Act. And to drive that message home, they brought along a barbecue grill.

Nearly a thousand gun registration forms were turned into ashes Sunday.

The forms are used for people to register with New York State Police firearms that meet the state’s definition of military-style assault weapons. The deadline is April 15. Gun rights advocates gathered at the Saratoga-Wilton Elks Lodge 161 to burn the papers in a symbolic protest.

E.J. Stokes, leader of the Warren County chapter of New York Revolution, said he was participating because he believes in the U.S. Constitution.

“Once the Second (Amendment) falls, the rest will go with it. It’s an unconstitutional law, done in the middle of the night with no input from the public,” he said.

The event was organized by the NY2A Grassroots Coalition. NY2A co-founder Jake Palmateer said the goal is for people not to register their assault weapon as an act of civil disobedience.

“We are opposed to registration because the evidence is clear that registration leads to confiscation,” he said.

He and others hope that so few people will fill out the forms, that the registry portion of the SAFE Act “collapses under its own weight.”

The Examiner provided some interviews with others attending the event and they expressed the same concerns about registration and confiscation.

“We are demonstrating to New York state that we will not be registering our firearms with the state,” said one protester tending the fire. “We refuse to register.”

Lisa Donovan, one of those responsible for the event, said organizers were telling gun owners what their options are relative to the new law, and, she added, “we’re also encouraging them to get more active in the political process so we can vote out the people who voted for the SAFE Act.”

“We’re basically explaining to people once they register, that gun is no longer theirs,” she added. “It’s a matter of time as to when the state will take it … It will be upon their death or when they change the law and decide to confiscate the guns that have been registered.”

“A gun that’s been registered can’t be sold or anything so it really is no longer yours at that point, so there are legal options for not registering,” Donovan said.

This being New York, the protesters are not dreaming up hypothetical future scenarios to worry about. The fact is that, since the passage of the SAFE Act, New York has been in the process of confiscating weapons around the state while staying under the media radar. This was a lesson which David Lewis learned all too well when armed officers showed up at his door one morning with a warrant, announcing that he could either surrender his guns or go to jail. The only reason that the Lewis case even made it into the local news was that they had the wrong guy and a court subsequently ordered his guns returned.

But there have been other, ongoing confiscations involving people who have neither been found guilty nor even accused of any crime. The nature of their “violation” was simply that they sought help from mental health professionals for problems ranging from anxiety to depression. If that sounds like science fiction, you haven’t read the details in the new law.

The NY SAFE Act requires “mental health professionals, in the exercise of reasonable professional judgment, to report if an individual they are treating is likely to engage in conduct that will cause serious harm to him- or herself or others.”

If such a determination is made, “the Division of Criminal Justice Services will determine whether the person possesses a firearms license and, if so, will notify the appropriate local licensing official, who must suspend the license. The person’s firearms will then be removed.”

In that context, it’s not hard to understand why New York gun owners are not keen to fill out registration forms and put their names on some list held by the state government. Those lists already exist and are currently being put to use, with state troopers being dispatched to people’s homes to collect their legally owned weapons even though they have been charged with no crime.

Of course, if you get all of your news from the national media, you won’t hear about this. The silence is deafening.


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It’s coming…

Exninja on March 23, 2014 at 11:08 AM

Resistance in New York and Connecticut: That is heartwarming.

GaltBlvnAtty on March 23, 2014 at 11:13 AM

The leftist press will certainly under report this – until someone shoots at a uniformed thug; then all hell will break lose against “violent gun nuts.”

If these same thugs in NY were knocking on doors to confiscate birth control pills, all hell would be breaking loose in the press nationwide.

Akzed on March 23, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Waste of time. If they already registered they’re in a database. Hide your guns.

crankyoldlady on March 23, 2014 at 11:35 AM

This is a test case for what will be coming from a Dem controlled Federal gummint, just as Mass was a test case for O’care. Resistance to these draconian, un-Constitutional measures must be fought off, using any and all means. The Left has disarmed the people of the truth through school based indoctrination; now they intend to disarm the country of the means to protect the Constitution, as the ‘last measure’ noted by the Fathers to be used against tyranny, both foreign and domestic…

vnvet on March 23, 2014 at 11:38 AM

The New York SAFE Act is in violation of federal HIPAA laws: what happens in my doctor’s office is supposed to stay there. But I also know that Obamacare and Obama’s executive orders also require HIPAA protection to be violated.

pdigaudio on March 23, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Waste of time. If they already registered they’re in a database. Hide LOAD your guns. crankyoldlady on March 23, 2014 at 11:35 AM

Akzed on March 23, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Whatever happened to doctor patient confidentiality?

thunderhorse on March 23, 2014 at 11:54 AM

The NY SAFE Act requires “mental health professionals, in the exercise of reasonable professional judgment, to report if an individual they are treating is likely to engage in conduct that will cause serious harm to him- or herself or others.”

We should require liberal politicians to pass the same test.

JetBoy on March 23, 2014 at 11:59 AM

Whatever happened to doctor patient confidentiality?

thunderhorse on March 23, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Thanks to mandated electronic records by Obamacare and the NSA, that is dead.

rbj on March 23, 2014 at 12:02 PM

THIS is why I tell you guys to BS on any form at a Doctors office that involves guns. The answer is ALWAYS “NO, I don’t own any guns” Do not give these people the data they need to form a list for confiscation. And as for HIPAA, it has provisions for exceptions for law enforcement, and you can bet the leftist will use them to declare you a danger in some manner. At the risk of being repetitive, do NOT tell any physician or other medical professional you have a gun. Period.

Doc Holliday on March 23, 2014 at 12:03 PM

The nature of their “violation” was simply that they sought help from mental health professionals for problems ranging from anxiety to depression.

Lesson: Stay away from head doctors. Many of them don’t have clue one what they are talking about anyway. They are turning this country’s youth into little drug addicts. I am convinced if it were up to them every American would be considered, “crazy,” or have some kind of attention disorder.

Are there true crazy people, yes, but they are a small proportion of the population, and they are clearly crazy like hearing invisible people talking to them. Having depressed feelings, or getting bored with something is not being crazy.

Boys most of all have been hurt by this crap. Boys are a handful, which is why they need fathers to slap some sense into them or run all they energy out of them. They are not however crazy or have some mental disorder, they are just boys….that is what they do.

William Eaton on March 23, 2014 at 12:09 PM

only people who should fear registration are those with intent to commit crimes…says a lot about these gun owners

nonpartisan on March 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM

If these same thugs in NY were knocking on doors to confiscate birth control pills, all hell would be breaking loose in the press nationwide.

Akzed on March 23, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Unequal outrage? That’s not fair!!!

platypus on March 23, 2014 at 12:11 PM

Call me when they burn Andrew Cuomo in protest.

Dusty on March 23, 2014 at 12:15 PM

only people who should fear registration are those with intent to commit crimes…says a lot about these gun owners

nonpartisan on March 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM

I don’t dabble in hypotheticals.

nonpartisan on January 28, 2014 at 10:28 PM

nobar on March 23, 2014 at 12:16 PM

Call me when they burn Andrew Cuomo in protest.

Dusty on March 23, 2014 at 12:15 PM

What if they didn’t use an effigy?

platypus on March 23, 2014 at 12:17 PM

The troll sure is afraid of private citizens, isn’t she?

CurtZHP on March 23, 2014 at 12:17 PM

only people who should fear registration are those with intent to commit crimes…says a lot about these gun owners

nonpartisan on March 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Even gun-owners with non-lethal skeet shotguns?

slickwillie2001 on March 23, 2014 at 12:18 PM

[nonpartisan on March 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM]

You mean doing something illegal like being a Jew who wants to live free or being a Negro who doesn’t want to live on a plantation?

You’re an ass, and an evil one at that.

Dusty on March 23, 2014 at 12:19 PM

Just for grins np, if they do commit a murderous crime, does it still pass this rule:

one death is worth more than 10 rapes

nonpartisan on February 12, 2014 at 10:44 PM

nobar on March 23, 2014 at 12:24 PM

only people who should fear registration are those with intent to commit crimes…says a lot about these gun owners

noforeskin on March 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM

…you don’t get out much…do you?

KOOLAID2 on March 23, 2014 at 12:25 PM

only people who should fear registration are those with intent to commit crimes…says a lot about these gun owners

nonintelligent on March 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM

Shooting your mouth off again?

Now excuse me, I have to take my cap pistol and go snipe hunting.

F-

Del Dolemonte on March 23, 2014 at 12:26 PM

Once I left the confines of the Peoples Republic of Ithaca I saw more anti-Safe Act signs than I thought possible yesterday. This is big, and getting bigger.

MTF on March 23, 2014 at 12:27 PM

The NY SAFE Act requires “mental health professionals, in the exercise of reasonable professional judgment, to report if an individual they are treating is likely to engage in conduct that will cause serious harm to him- or herself or others.”

If such a determination is made, “the Division of Criminal Justice Services will determine whether the person possesses a firearms license and, if so, will notify the appropriate local licensing official, who must suspend the license. The person’s firearms will then be removed.”

That is not just happening in New York State. The Federal Government is trying to do that nationally. Obamacare was just the latest attempt to try and get the latest form of gun control *mental health* issues passed into Federal Law.

Has everyone noticed the last bunch of shootings like Sandy Hook and the Washington Navy Yard were actually blamed in no small part on the shooter and their mental health issues? This is something that has not been done in the past. They are trying to grease the skids for future laws by being able to point back to multiple incidents where a *reasonable* law would have prevented these tragic incidents, if only we would have taken his/her guns away when they first cried out for help, etc. It’s coming, and the Fed will be first.

The Fed is going to put in some form of mental health block for at least buying new guns in the immediate future, and Veterans will be the first to pay the price. The BATF already has blocking questions on the form that are not part of any laws Congress passed and they have not been challenged once in court on them.

There are tons of Veterans who have been diagnosed with PTSD or TBI from Iraq and Afghanistan and most of the Vietnam Vets have been diagnosed with all sorts of Mental Health issues.

Johnnyreb on March 23, 2014 at 12:28 PM

only people who should fear registration are those with intent to commit crimes…says a lot about these gun owners in government.

nonpartisan on March 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM

I’d say that is a constitutional view!

Murphy9 on March 23, 2014 at 12:28 PM

only people who should fear registration are those with intent to commit crimes…says a lot about these gun owners

nonpartisan on March 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM

And what “CRIME” have these people who have already had their guns stolen from them by the government committed, NP?

Seeking mental health help?
That’s a crime?

Doc Holliday on March 23, 2014 at 12:31 PM

only people who should fear registration are those with intent to commit crimes…says a lot about these gun owners

nonpartisan on March 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM

The only people who would write something like that are those who are terminally stupid.
Says a lot about you, leftoid drone.

btw; Why do you hate America, you azzclown?

Solaratov on March 23, 2014 at 12:33 PM

A social studies workbook, used in an Illinois public middle school, is generating controversy among gun rights supporters because it claims that the Second Amendment permits only strictly regulated, registered gun ownership.

A screenshot of the workbook was first posted to the Facebook page for Illinois Gun Owners Rights. It provides the following description of the Second Amendment:

“This amendment states that people have the right to certain weapons, providing that they register them and have not been in prison. The founding fathers included the amendment to prevent the United States from acting like the British who had tried to take weapons away from the colonists.”

Akzed on March 23, 2014 at 12:34 PM

Lawless thugs

SouthernGent on March 23, 2014 at 12:37 PM

only people who should fear registration are those with intent to commit crimes…says a lot about these gun owners

nonpartisan on March 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM

I don’t dabble in hypotheticals.

nonpartisan on January 28, 2014 at 10:28 PM

nobar on March 23, 2014 at 12:16 PM

BOOM!

KMC1 on March 23, 2014 at 12:54 PM

Better to leave NY, MD, etc.and let them burn. Which is inevitable.

wolly4321 on March 23, 2014 at 12:58 PM

wolly4321 says “Better to leave NY, MD, etc.and let them burn. Which is inevitable.”

American’s just can’t keep running away from the progressive democrat communists, eventually there’ll be no place left to run to.

lel2007 on March 23, 2014 at 1:08 PM

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” – Sam Adams

lel2007 on March 23, 2014 at 1:14 PM

I just lie on all the forms, and to my doctor. I assume they do too :-)

ShadrachSmith on March 23, 2014 at 1:19 PM

The clinics will report by pharmaceutical category: Everyone who has ever been given the drugs on this list (antipsychotics, and whatever else) will get their name sent to the Feds as dangerous.

ShadrachSmith on March 23, 2014 at 1:23 PM

We need to show the spirit of resistance gun control freak tyranny. Even the casual supporters of gun control will admire us for having the balls to do such protests.

thuja on March 23, 2014 at 1:27 PM

NY gun owners burn registration forms in protest

Damn hippies.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 23, 2014 at 1:31 PM

In my opinion, this is one of the most important issues facing our society today. I think libtards think, ‘what’s the big deal?’ I personally don’t care if someone owns a gun or not. If you don’t want one, don’t buy one.

But this isn’t just about guns. This is about ideas. It is about individual freedom and the ability to defend yourself against tyranny. It’s a principle. Libtards try to dissect it and turn it into a procedural matter. That is intellectually dishonest. It’s not a procedural matter. It’s a whole philosophy.

I know I’m preaching to the converted. But there is no frickin way that anyone is taking my guns and ammo. I say this on philosophical grounds. I’d say this even if I didn’t own guns.

Even Libtards who hate guns should be saying the same thing. If they had any brains.

No one is taking my guns away. And let the better side win.

(Oh yeah, and then there’s the whole Constitution thing. To Libtards, the Constitution means nothing. Law means nothing.)

WhatSlushfund on March 23, 2014 at 1:55 PM

It clearly says this is for when a patient is considered likely to cause harm to himself or others, not if he has height anxiety or stress or whatever.

Federati on March 23, 2014 at 2:01 PM

THIS is why I tell you guys to BS on any form at a Doctors office that involves guns. The answer is ALWAYS “NO, I don’t own any guns” Do not give these people the data they need to form a list for confiscation. And as for HIPAA, it has provisions for exceptions for law enforcement, and you can bet the leftist will use them to declare you a danger in some manner. At the risk of being repetitive, do NOT tell any physician or other medical professional you have a gun. Period.

Doc Holliday on March 23, 2014 at 12:03 PM

If you say no on the form and they find out otherwise, that leads to other problems. I refuse to answer or discuss the issue with a medical professional. None of their business!

TerryW on March 23, 2014 at 2:02 PM

only people who should fear registration are those with intent to commit crimes…says a lot about these gun owners

nonpartisan on March 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM

.
Could you please … point out or describe the criminal who’s afraid of “gun registration”?
.
I have got to meet this person . . . . .

listens2glenn on March 23, 2014 at 2:21 PM

only people who should fear registration are those with intent to commit crimes…says a lot about these gun owners

nonpartisan on March 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM

You’re a tool.

Those who don’t know history are destined to repeat it.
Edmund Burke

Hammie on March 23, 2014 at 2:22 PM

There is nothing new under New York law in confiscating firearms from people found to be mentally ill; that has been the case for many years and understandably so. As I understand it, what is new with the law is that if you live with someone merely counseled or treated for a mental issue, you lose your right to possess a firearm– not just an assault rifel (however defined) but any firearm whether you have it in a locked gun cabinet or with a trigger lock. Thus, the fear is that relatives of individuals who might benefit from mental health treatment will persuade them not to seek it because the relative would either have to leave the home or lose their ability to possess a firearm. No shotgun for turkey or deer hunting and certainly no handgun for home protection.

That is the discussion I hear and even anti-gun members of the medical community are concerned about discouraging mental health treatment.

KW64 on March 23, 2014 at 2:30 PM

If you say no on the form and they find out otherwise, that leads to other problems. I refuse to answer or discuss the issue with a medical professional. None of their business!

TerryW on March 23, 2014 at 2:02 PM

Totally agree. It is bad to let anyone know whether there is or is not a firearm in your home. If there is, it increases the chance of burglary to steal it. If there is not,it increases the chance of burglary because the home is undefended. Leave doubt in their mind and the criminal may go somewhere else.

KW64 on March 23, 2014 at 2:33 PM

Totally agree. It is bad to let anyone know whether there is or is not a firearm in your home. If there is, it increases the chance of burglary to steal it. If there is not,it increases the chance of burglary because the home is undefended. Leave doubt in their mind and the criminal may go somewhere else.

KW64 on March 23, 2014 at 2:33 PM

Pretty much so also for the places on the info form where they want your SSN and your DL#. Really? It’s not the MDs who come up with these forms, and nothing gets said when they stay blank.

bbhack on March 23, 2014 at 2:39 PM

Lesson: Stay away from head doctors. Many of them don’t have clue one what they are talking about anyway. They are turning this country’s youth into little drug addicts. I am convinced if it were up to them every American would be considered, “crazy,” or have some kind of attention disorder.

William Eaton on March 23, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Sadly, there are many real mental health problems that can be benefitted greatly by proper medication. That is why it is so sad to see laws like this that discourage treatment.

Chemical treatment for depression has been a revolution just in my lifetime and the % of people who must be institutionalized is reduced as a result. SRI’s alone have made a huge difference in the quality and productivity of life for those suffering from depression due to low serotonin levels. Lithium and other anti-psychotic drugs have been able to take people who were non-functional and return them to being productive citizens. Anti-anxiety drugs have also made it possible for people to face the real world outside their door again and sleep normally.

Is there overuse of prescription drugs in the US, absolutely; but don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.

KW64 on March 23, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Molon Labe

Schadenfreude on March 23, 2014 at 2:55 PM

Wolly4321 says “Better to leave NY, MD, etc.and let them burn. Which is inevitable.” American’s just can’t keep running away from the progressive democrat communists, eventually there’ll be no place left to run to. lel2007 on March 23, 2014 at 1:08 PM

Have you seen a red/blue County map?

Picture Stalingrad unarmed.

I don’t want to run from them. I want to encircle them. Trap them in their hives.

I spent decades on the east coast fighting these bastards. Give them Baltimore. Then surround it.

Cut it off. Isolate it.

wolly4321 on March 23, 2014 at 3:20 PM

Trap all the rats in the cities. Can’t grow much food there.

If progs want the major urban areas, give them what they want.

They’ll kill each other, saving time and effort.

Yes,, I would abandon the cities.

wolly4321 on March 23, 2014 at 3:31 PM

KW64 on March 23, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Your comments seem to rather well thought out. The question I would ask you, is what steps if any do you think should be taken to keep weapons out of the hands of those who, due to mental illness, may pose a threat to others?

MJBrutus on March 23, 2014 at 3:33 PM

only people who should fear registration are those with intent to commit crimes…says a lot about these gun owners

nonpartisan on March 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM

It is now a serious jail sentencing crime in NY to load 8, 9, or 10 rounds into a 10 round magazine. Is that the type of crime you had in mind? Yes, heretofore law abiding people were turned into felons with the stroke of a pen, by a bill illegally passed without comment from the citizens, in the middle of the night.

Do you really think locking up peaceful people who miscount the rounds in a magazine is a wise use of scarce jail space? You think that reduces crime?

The people who fear registration are the ones watching the confiscations going on in NY right now, and the threatened confiscations in CT. NJ is considering a bill that would cause confiscations of some .22 rifles. Registration leads to confiscation.

juliesa on March 23, 2014 at 3:41 PM

wolly4321 on March 23, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Speaking of mentally ill individuals…

Federati on March 23, 2014 at 3:41 PM

Your comments seem to rather well thought out. The question I would ask you, is what steps if any do you think should be taken to keep weapons out of the hands of those who, due to mental illness, may pose a threat to others?

MJBrutus on March 23, 2014 at 3:33 PM

What I have observed before is that since we do not prohibit firearms in homes with children, we just require that reasonable steps be take to keep them from getting access to them. Similarly, we should ask for reasonable steps from those who own firearms in homes with a member that has mental issues. If they take them, they may keep their firearm. Any removal should be temporary until they establish a means of restricting access rather than a forever confiscation. Also, we should not say that someone with a mental issue is forever dangerous. We do release people from mental institutions when they have recovered suffificiently. There should be a process for recovering rights as well as a process for taking them away.

KW64 on March 23, 2014 at 3:43 PM

wolly4321 on March 23, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Speaking of mentally ill individuals…

Federati on March 23, 2014 at 3:41 PM

Big of you to admit it. Many of us have suspected it.

slickwillie2001 on March 23, 2014 at 3:44 PM

KW64 on March 23, 2014 at 3:43 PM

FWIW, I think that you’re striking a pretty reasonable balance.

MJBrutus on March 23, 2014 at 3:47 PM

speaking of mentally ill individuals… Federati on March 23, 2014 at 3:41 PM

Yep. With great eyesight, too. I <3 my eotech 512.

The good news is there are at least ten rats/NY'er.

Wonder what the ratio is in Detroit?

wolly4321 on March 23, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Speaking of mentally ill individuals… Federati on March 23, 2014 at 3:41 PM

My CCW renewal showed up in the mail today.

Tee-hee.

Need. more. Hydrashocks. +P. :)

wolly4321 on March 23, 2014 at 4:23 PM

KW64, what do you consider ‘reasonable steps’?

vnvet on March 23, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Trap all the rats in the cities. Can’t grow much food there.

If progs want the major urban areas, give them what they want.

They’ll kill each other, saving time and effort.

Yes,, I would abandon the cities.

wolly4321 on March 23, 2014 at 3:31 PM

This is actually something that I’ve been thinking about a lot lately. If there was a civil war, how would we carve up the country? The rural and Red State areas are on all the natural resources. Especially now with the shale boom. We need to start gaming this out now.

WhatSlushfund on March 23, 2014 at 5:25 PM

It games itself out. They tax, they regulate.

Islands of moochers are left. Surrounded by those that have been mooched off of for years.

And we are quite pissed off about it.

And heavily armed.

Their paperwork means nothing.

wolly4321 on March 23, 2014 at 5:45 PM

The question I would ask you, is what steps if any do you think should be taken to keep weapons out of the hands of those who, due to mental illness, may pose a threat to others?

MJBrutus on March 23, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Indefinite involuntary commitment following a court hearing.

PersonFromPorlock on March 23, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Hopefully everyone who might be targeted by the Gun-Grabbng-Goon Squads has made arrangements with friends and neighbors.
But be everso cooperative when the GGGS comes knocking and make sure you give them all of your ammunition FIRST.

Missilengr on March 23, 2014 at 6:58 PM

When will you stupid yankees learn that elections have consequences?

ultracon on March 23, 2014 at 7:02 PM

they are clearly crazy like hearing invisible people talking to them.

William Eaton on March 23, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Dude, I have invisible people talk to me all the time. It’s called a cell phone….. ;)

nonpartisan on March 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM

This is what you bring? Seriously? You gotta up your game, dude/tte. Or are you distracted by tracking the 0s bracket picks?

GWB on March 23, 2014 at 7:18 PM

This is ludicrous. During the lousy last couple years of my marriage to a physically abusive wife (I never hit her BACK), she demanded that I get on serotonin uptake inhibitors (Paxil) because of course, *I* was the problem in the marriage. Hoping it would shut her up and maybe save my marriage (now I don’t know why I wanted to), I consented to have my general practitioner prescribe it to me. There was no psychological screening, nothing. I said my wife thought it would be a good idea (and yeah, I did have anxiety living in that abusive Hell) and he prescribed them to me. I was on them for maybe 2 years, then got divorced. I’ve been off them for at least 7 years now, and have no need or desire to get back on them. But on the basis of that prescription, the Gestapo in New York State would take away my guns. Thank God I live in a free state, not a slave like the sheeple of New York.

quikstrike98 on March 23, 2014 at 7:36 PM

There are no illegal firearms in NY state, only undocumented ones. ; )

Kia Heavey on March 23, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Waste of time. If they already registered they’re in a database. Hide your guns.

crankyoldlady on March 23, 2014 at 11:35 AM

The symbolism of them burning the registration forms is that they are not registering them.
Giving a big middle finger to fascisis is never a waste of time.

Buttercup on March 23, 2014 at 8:25 PM

This all means NOTHING if they dont burn their HANDGUN REGESTRY forms as well.

Its the SAME thing.

TX-96 on March 23, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Registry….. When is hotair going to get with the program and give us the EDIT button!!!

TX-96 on March 23, 2014 at 8:45 PM

only people who should fear registration are those with intent to commit crimes…says a lot about these gun owners

nonpartisan on March 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM

The Right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
- Bill of Rights, 2nd Amendment, Constitution of the United States of America

Supreme Law of The Land, bitch.

Read it, learn it, love it, live it.

Or go join Snowden. You’ll like it there. They have no guns and a world record for the biggest school shooting (12 times the casualties of Newtown).

Alberta_Patriot on March 23, 2014 at 9:24 PM

only people who should fear registration are those with intent to commit crimes…says a lot about these gun owners

nonpartisan on March 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM

The Right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
- Bill of Rights, 2nd Amendment, Constitution of the United States of America

Supreme Law of The Land, @#$%&.

Read it, learn it, love it, live it.

Or go join Snowden. You’ll like it there. They have no guns and a world record for the biggest school shooting (12 times the casualties of Newtown).

Alberta_Patriot on March 23, 2014 at 9:24 PM

KW64, what do you consider ‘reasonable steps’?

vnvet on March 23, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Combination Locks on gun cabinets or trigger locks. Really in most cases what would be effective for a pre-teen child would likely be effective. I don’t like keys because these can be obtained in a household by any member rather easily while combination locks are what I would use.

KW64 on March 23, 2014 at 9:31 PM

only people who should fear registration are those with intent to commit crimes…says a lot about these gun owners

nonpartisan on March 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM

“First they came for the Jews………”

Tenwheeler on March 23, 2014 at 10:39 PM

Your forefathers would be shooting by now.

Kenosha Kid on March 23, 2014 at 10:45 PM

Registry….. When is hotair going to get with the program and give us the EDIT button!!!

TX-96 on March 23, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Can you imagine the field day the trolls would have, saying the stupid things they say and then going back to cover their tracks?

CurtZHP on March 24, 2014 at 7:27 AM

“Better to leave NY, MD, etc.and let them burn. Which is inevitable.

wolly4321 on March 23, 2014 at 12:58 PM”

New York. Connecticut. New Jersey. California. Illinois. Let them all burn.

quikstrike98 on March 24, 2014 at 9:01 AM

They have no guns and a world record for the biggest school shooting (12 times the casualties of Newtown).

Alberta_Patriot on March 23, 2014 at 9:24 PM

Though, technically speaking, not all the casualties there were caused by the bad guys.

There are no illegal firearms in NY state, only undocumented ones. ; )

Kia Heavey on March 23, 2014 at 8:12 PM

Nice. To follow-up, shouldn’t we be working to bring those undocumented firearms out of the shadows? And we can only do this by amnestying them all……

GWB on March 24, 2014 at 9:14 AM

KW64, I’m baaaack. I don’t like keys either, but for different reason. When the bad guys break down the back door, trying to remember where the key is, finding it, then fumbling in the dark to make it work takes critical time. When seconds count, protection (cops, keys) is minutes away. We had small children (about a thousand years ago)and kept the gun(s) locked safely away when we were not at home. When home, the house gun was available and under my direct control, but out of reach of the kids (who, btw, were trained in the Eddie Eagle fashion about guns). At bedtime, the pistol came out to be with me, readily available in the top drawer of the night stand. Worked for us, but as me Sainted Mo-in-law used to say, “To each his own”.

vnvet on March 24, 2014 at 9:41 AM

Nonpartisan is a subject, not a citizen.

Deckard BR on March 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM