Quotes of the Day

posted at 8:31 pm on March 22, 2014 by Jazz Shaw

Same-sex couples rushed to Michigan county clerk’s offices Saturday to get hitched a day after a judge overturned the state’s constitutional ban on gay marriage, and several hundred managed to do so before an appeals court reinstituted the ban, at least temporarily.

The order by a federal appeals court in Cincinnati came after Glenna DeJong, 53, and Marsha Caspar, 51, of Lansing, were the first to arrive at the Ingham County Courthouse in the central Michigan city of Mason. DeJong and Caspar, who have been together for 27 years, received their license and were married by Ingham County Clerk Barb Byrum.

I figured in my lifetime it would happen,” Caspar said. “But now, when it happens now, it’s just overwhelming. I still can’t believe it. I don’t think it’s hit me yet.”

Similar nuptials followed one after another, at times en masse, in at least four of Michigan’s 83 counties. Those four — Oakland, Muskegon, Ingham and Washtenaw counties — issued more than 300 marriage licenses to same-sex couples Saturday.

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Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette filed an emergency stay request Friday after Friedman’s decision. Earlier Saturday, the court had given the plaintiffs in the case, April DeBoer and Jayne Rowse, until Tuesday to file a response to Schuette’s request for a stay. That order made no mention of staying Friedman’s order until Wednesday.

A similar situation arose in Utah, where a federal judge ruled in favor of gay marriage in December and denied a stay of his ruling. But the stay was ultimately granted by the U.S. Supreme Court after more than 1,000 couples were married.

“Given the experience in Utah, we expect our request for stay to be granted,” said Joy Yearout, a spokeswoman for Schuette.

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“To allow a more reasoned consideration of the motion to stay, it is ordered that the district court’s judgment is temporarily stayed until Wednesday, March 26, 2014,” stated the ruling from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit.

A U.S. appeals court on Saturday placed a temporary hold on a federal judge’s ruling that struck down Michigan’s ban on gay marriage that was adopted by voters in 2004.

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The judge said he was relying upon “the enduring principle that regardless of whoever finds favor in the eyes of the most recent majority, the [constitutional] guarantee of equal protection must prevail.” He found that the ban violated the right to equality of a lesbian couple, April DeBoer and Jayne Rowse, both nurses in Detroit hospitals. He did not rule on their separate claim that the ban violated their right to “due process.”

Although the outcome in this case followed a string of rulings by other federal trial judges striking down other states’ bans, Judge Friedman’s ruling was the first in that series which followed a full courtroom trial. The other decisions have come on pleas for temporary or preliminary rulings, based primarily upon legal arguments.

This was the first full-scale trial since the Supreme Court’s decision last June in United States v. Windsor, finding unconstitutional the federal Defense of Marriage Act’s ban on federal marital benefits for gay and lesbian couples. Although the Windsor decision expressly avoided ruling on the validity of same-sex marriage bans, as such, the reasoning of the majority in that ruling has been cited repeatedly by federal judges since then in dealing with state laws or constitutional provisions against such marriages. Judge Friedman, too, relied upon that reasoning.

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Instead, the state urged the judge to respect the results of a 2004 election in which 59 percent of voters said marriage in Michigan can only be between a man and a woman. Conservative scholars also questioned the impact of same-sex parenting on children.

But experts testifying for Rowse and DeBoer said there were no differences between the kids of same-sex couples and the children raised by a man and woman. And the University of Texas took the extraordinary step of disavowing the testimony of sociology professor Mark Regnerus, who was a witness for Michigan.

After the U.S. Supreme Court intervened in Utah, Gov. Gary Herbert ordered state agencies to hold off on moving forward with any new benefits for the hundreds of same-sex couples who married during the three-week window until the courts resolved the issue. Agencies were told not to revoke anything already issued, such as a driver’s license with a new name, but were prohibited from approving any new marriages or benefits.

Utah made clear it was not ordering agencies to void the marriages, but that their validity would be decided by the Denver-based 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

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I’m watching Pink Panther on TCM. One of my favorites. Love Mancini’s music.

crankyoldlady on March 22, 2014 at 8:33 PM

help!

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:33 PM

help! I’m held hostage by a “Too Cute” marathon on Animal Planet!

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:02 PM

Ok, you got me hooked!

Barred on March 22, 2014 at 8:34 PM

ℬ̨̞̳̹̮̭̥͇̩̭̬̗̟̼͒̉̈̾͊̈̏̃̄̾̄͛̀̉ℐ̨͖͙͈̙͎̲͙͈̲̗͉͉̄͗́̂̾͌̂̀̾̎̕͘͜͝ϟ͇̫̺̯̮͈̪̤͎̖̺̟̈́̈́̑́̑̌̌̎̈́̃͒͘͠ͅͅĦ̧̡̺͔̟͍͇͎͇̞̘̟̦̓́̀͂͐̍̀̍͛̈͂͘͠͝☮̢̧̛͎̳̞̦͎͍̲͍̰̬̖̈͆͋̈́͆̓͋͋̈́̇͌̃Ṕ̢͍̦̼̲̠͇̺͓̗̬̥̗̐̾̀̊̈́͋̋̽̋͐͛̌̀́

Murphy9 on March 22, 2014 at 8:34 PM

crankyoldlady on March 22, 2014 at 8:33 PM

I should have been so lucky, COL…

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Barred on March 22, 2014 at 8:34 PM

Mom got the re-mo-te…

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:35 PM

It’s strange. Last I checked, it was still the same constitution.

Right? It hasn’t changed, right?

p0s3r on March 22, 2014 at 8:35 PM

But experts testifying for Rowse and DeBoer said there were no differences between the kids of same-sex couples and the children raised by a man and woman.

Activist hacks.

Count to 10 on March 22, 2014 at 8:37 PM

Evenin’ peeps :)

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:39 PM

I came to a conclusion earlier today–it’s almost impossible for anyone other than eunuchs and sopranos (maybe) to sing Player’s “Baby Come Back”

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:39 PM

SCRUMPY!!

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Lanceman, please tell Sparky I said Hi {{waving madly}} :)

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:40 PM

Newtie!! :)

Good song choice… :D

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:41 PM

Lanceman, please tell Sparky I said Hi {{waving madly}} :)

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:40 PM

You can say hi…just no touching. ;) ;)

Hiya Scrumps!

bazil9 on March 22, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:41 PM

It works for me tonight ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Is the bar open yet?

Whose tab is it…? Does it matter? Lol!!

Make mine a double Southern Comfort on the rocks bartender!! :)

**Clink**

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Hi gang! OT yet?

KCB on March 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM

…B I S H O P…!!!

KOOLAID2 on March 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Ken! xo

bazil9 on March 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Hi Cutie! It’s predator’s turn.

KCB on March 22, 2014 at 8:44 PM

bazil9 on March 22, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Ok ok!! hands off!! ;)

I think he’s been missing you, might wanna leave him a “Luv Song” to brighten his night ;D

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:44 PM

B9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KCB on March 22, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Mom got the re-mo-te…

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:35 PM

Don’t have that problem here. 4 tvs and just my husband and I. lol

Barred on March 22, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Watching Chopped on FNW…may have to change channels soon, or watch a Bruce Willis DVD.

Perhaps, Pulp Fiction…

ladyingray on March 22, 2014 at 8:45 PM

KCB on March 22, 2014 at 8:44 PM

Ken, how the hell are you? :) {hugs}

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:44 PM

LOL, Scrump.
Nah..hes been bad…no love songs.

bazil9 on March 22, 2014 at 8:45 PM

KOOLAID2 on March 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM

How is the KOOLest man on the planet eh? :)

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Doin’ fine. How about you?

KCB on March 22, 2014 at 8:46 PM

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM

Yes.

By unanimous consent, AP has inherited Predator’s tab ;-)

[passes Scrumpy double Southern Comfort on the rocks...puts on AP's tab under "Customer Relations"...]

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Nah..hes been bad…no love songs.

bazil9 on March 22, 2014 at 8:45 PM

*frowns*

KCB on March 22, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Barred on March 22, 2014 at 8:45 PM

Rub It In, why doncha… ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:48 PM

ℬ̨̞̳̹̮̭̥͇̩̭̬̗̟̼͒̉̈̾͊̈̏̃̄̾̄͛̀̉ℐ̨͖͙͈̙͎̲͙͈̲̗͉͉̄͗́̂̾͌̂̀̾̎̕͘͜͝ϟ͇̫̺̯̮͈̪̤͎̖̺̟̈́̈́̑́̑̌̌̎̈́̃͒͘͠ͅͅĦ̧̡̺͔̟͍͇͎͇̞̘̟̦̓́̀͂͐̍̀̍͛̈͂͘͠͝☮̢̧̛͎̳̞̦͎͍̲͍̰̬̖̈͆͋̈́͆̓͋͋̈́̇͌̃Ṕ̢͍̦̼̲̠͇̺͓̗̬̥̗̐̾̀̊̈́͋̋̽̋͐͛̌̀́

Murphy9 on March 22, 2014 at 8:34 PM

How’d you do that?!

tru2tx on March 22, 2014 at 8:48 PM

bazil9 on March 22, 2014 at 8:45 PM

I left Radar Love for him this morning….

Ducks

Runs

Dodges

0_O
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(is it safe to come out)??

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:48 PM

By unanimous consent, AP has inherited Predator’s tab ;-)

[passes Scrumpy double Southern Comfort on the rocks...puts on AP's tab under "Customer Relations"...]

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:47 PM

That’s what happens when you go on vacation.

KCB on March 22, 2014 at 8:48 PM

bazil9 on March 22, 2014 at 8:45 PM

*frowns*

KCB on March 22, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Why u frownin?

bazil9 on March 22, 2014 at 8:49 PM

KCB on March 22, 2014 at 8:48 PM

AP’s in luck–Predator’s not an Indian Giver

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:49 PM

husband just got home from county convention.
It seems that I will not be attending the Texas GOP convention as an alternate from Lubbock County…because I’ll be attending as a DELEGATE from Lubbock County!
Yeeee Haaaaaw!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 22, 2014 at 8:49 PM

(is it safe to come out)??

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:48 PM

LOL…yes.

bazil9 on March 22, 2014 at 8:50 PM

KCB on March 22, 2014 at 8:46 PM

It’s Saturday nite, and everything is kewl, and where else would I be but here with all my rowdy friends eh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNeUQ861X9g

enjoy a little Hank… :)

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:50 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 22, 2014 at 8:49 PM

WOO-HOO!!

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Is the hall monitor here to put us in our place?

OmahaConservative on March 22, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:48 PM

Been there and done that, though. I have sympathy for you.

Barred on March 22, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Why u frownin?

bazil9 on March 22, 2014 at 8:49 PM

Got confused. Now that the site is fixed, everything’s in the right order. How am I supposed to negotiate threads now?

KCB on March 22, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Love “Too Cute”

rbj on March 22, 2014 at 8:52 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 22, 2014 at 8:49 PM

WOW!! Congrats alt!! ^5

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Cheers AP!!

*clink*

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:53 PM

rbj on March 22, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Swap with me? Please? It’s on until 10pm EDT…

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:54 PM

OmahaConservative on March 22, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Katie barred the door

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Keep ‘em coming Barkeep…

Ohhhhh you have sexy brown eyes, with a touch of green…..

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm dreamy mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:54 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:51 PM

Husband’s a delegate too.
I’ll be asking AP/ED if I can be HA’s ‘Janie on the Ground’ there.
Maybe I can take some photos or interview delegates from other counties or whatever.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 22, 2014 at 8:55 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 22, 2014 at 8:49 PM

That’s great news. More of us need to be as involved.

Barred on March 22, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Barred on March 22, 2014 at 8:51 PM

I can always pop in “Independence Day” or LOTR…but I don’t like chasing Mom out of the room :/

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Barred on March 22, 2014 at 8:55 PM

I said to the husband that us being named delegates must mean that we’re really Texans now.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 22, 2014 at 8:56 PM

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:54 PM

O_o o_O

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:55 PM

Play both on our 115″ big screen tv’s over there

Luv both movies :)

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Judge Bernard Friedman said he was relying upon “the enduring principle that regardless of whoever finds favor in the eyes of the most recent majority, the [constitutional] guarantee of equal protection must prevail.”

Jazz Shaw on March 22, 2014 at 8:31 PM

.
There’s nothing to “protect” . . . . . marriage is NOT a “constitutional right”, and re-defining marriage (from the BENCH, no less) is NOT a “constitutional right”.

listens2glenn on March 22, 2014 at 8:57 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:57 PM

O_o o_O

That’s more like it!! Lmao ;)

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:58 PM

husband just got home from county convention.
It seems that I will not be attending the Texas GOP convention as an alternate from Lubbock County…because I’ll be attending as a DELEGATE from Lubbock County!
Yeeee Haaaaaw!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 22, 2014 at 8:49 PM

YeY Twerpster!

As a New Yorker, you don’t want to hear me yell “Yeeee Haaaaaw!” but I can flip other drivers the bird like no one else :)

JetBoy on March 22, 2014 at 8:59 PM

(must do it right next time)

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:59 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 22, 2014 at 8:55 PM

I got yer sign-on theme raht cheer… :P

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:59 PM

JetBoy on March 22, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Go on I dare ya to impress them New Yawkers with a rebel yell!!

Yeeee Haaaaw!!

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 9:00 PM

I said to the husband that us being named delegates must mean that we’re really Texans now.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 22, 2014 at 8:56 PM

Congrats.

gh on March 22, 2014 at 9:00 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 22, 2014 at 8:56 PM

[Pours ALT and Dear Mr ALT double moonshines...puts on AP's tab under "Political Contributions"...]

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:55 PM

I guess I misunderstood you. I thought you had been able to get the remote from the kids. lolz

Barred on March 22, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 8:46 PM

…only because it’s cold here!…How are you winged one?

KOOLAID2 on March 22, 2014 at 9:02 PM

What’s with the pic of Barky’s cabinet for the cover image?

I’m glad I ate, already.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 22, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Gotta go. BB in a little while.

KCB on March 22, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 8:59 PM

The members of the nominating committee actually…like me. So says the husband
weird.
Wait for NT to storm in and inform me that 1. state convention is no big deal and 2. I’m still a carpetbagger. ///

annoyinglittletwerp on March 22, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Keep the husband’s hooch.
He and a few of the other codgers went out drinking w/ some of da yoot. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on March 22, 2014 at 9:05 PM

KOOLAID2 on March 22, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Fair to middlin’ my dear… :)

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Barred on March 22, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Kids, yes–Mom’s a whole ‘nother ball game… :0

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 9:05 PM

Whatevah.

Let le’ gheys marry. It’s a boon for lawyers.

These “mandates” are not born of We The People. They are nothing more than a windfall for attorneys. The divorce rate amongst teh gheys is 98%.

/More BHO please

Yay.

Key West Reader on March 22, 2014 at 9:06 PM

KCB on March 22, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Hurry back Ken!!

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 9:06 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 22, 2014 at 9:03 PM

Wow. Feisty goes a long way in TX, ya know…so does spunk, spirit and ‘tude ;-)

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 9:07 PM

Key West Reader on March 22, 2014 at 9:06 PM

I like your take on it!! :)

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 9:07 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 22, 2014 at 9:05 PM

ALT? I’m not married to AP OR Dear Mr ALT… o_O

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 9:08 PM

1m ago
Photo: Elephants escape at the Family Arena, in St. Charles, Mo., trampling cars – @DiffinKSDK
see original on twitter.com

Murphy9 on March 22, 2014 at 9:08 PM

Riddle me this……..regarding the photo: why do women like to look like men, when they supposedly don’t even like them?

And, AlT, *cough* you could do your civic duty to Lubbock by giving some votes here about Perry/Hance:
http://lubbockonline.com/local-news/2014-03-21/gov-rick-perry-visiting-lubbock-speak-hance-reception?page=2#comment-326375

I’ve fought the progs for 3 pages now.

avagreen on March 22, 2014 at 9:11 PM

avagreen on March 22, 2014 at 9:11 PM

I don’t do riddles well, and that ones a doozy!! lol :)

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Riddle me this……..regarding the photo: why do women like to look like men, when they supposedly don’t even like them?

avagreen on March 22, 2014 at 9:11 PM

Um…Freedom in Androgyny?

Looking for a friend…

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 9:13 PM

I’ve fought the progs for 3 pages now.

avagreen on March 22, 2014 at 9:11 PM

Keep fightin’ the good fight!! ^5

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 9:14 PM

I said to the husband that us being named delegates must mean that we’re really Texans now.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 22, 2014 at 8:56 PM

Or it could be that real Texans in Lubbock have been to Fort Worth enough times that they were bored with it.

cozmo on March 22, 2014 at 9:14 PM

Sporky, Scrumpers says hi, you piker!

Lanceman on March 22, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Lanceman on March 22, 2014 at 9:15 PM

Hey there matey!! Thanks heaps!… :)

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Wait for NT to storm in and inform me that 1. state convention is no big deal and 2. I’m still a carpetbagger. ///

annoyinglittletwerp on March 22, 2014 at 9:03 PM

What am I, chopped liver?

cozmo on March 22, 2014 at 9:16 PM

cozmo on March 22, 2014 at 9:16 PM

I would check that out, sumpin’ got chopped there! O_0

Scrumpy on March 22, 2014 at 9:18 PM

cozmo on March 22, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Cozmo, you’re nothing that common!

Chopped liver pate… ;P

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 9:18 PM

avagreen on March 22, 2014 at 9:11 PM

I TOTALLY agree w/ you about the SPLC-but I disagree with your linking to Rockwell and DiLorzeno.
Rockwell and DiLorenzo aren’t good guys.
I’m thinking about what I’m gonna write.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 22, 2014 at 9:18 PM

cozmo on March 22, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Gefilte Fish.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 22, 2014 at 9:20 PM

cozmo on March 22, 2014 at 9:14 PM

BITE!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 22, 2014 at 9:21 PM

Lanceman on March 22, 2014 at 9:15 PM

LANCIE!!

Um…you want your usual?

Newtie and the Beauty on March 22, 2014 at 9:21 PM

Gefilte Fish.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 22, 2014 at 9:20 PM

Better gefilter fish than hagfish.

Lanceman on March 22, 2014 at 9:22 PM

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