New look at the “benefits” of contraception?

posted at 3:21 pm on March 20, 2014 by Dustin Siggins

Since the Griswold Supreme Court decision in 1965, contraception has become integrated into almost every facet of American culture. Whole industries have sprung up around it, and governments and schools around the nation spend millions giving contraception out for “free.” And, of course, the federal government is now saying almost every single business and non-profit organization in America must provide it for “free” to employees.

Which makes some recent noise in mainstream media sources about the harms of contraception quite interesting, and potentially very effective to spreading the word about the real harms of contraception to women. First it was former Winter Olympics hopeful and former Townhall.com intern Megan Henry — sidelined due to use of the intrauterine device NuVaRing — whose joining of a class-action lawsuit against NuVaRing parent company Merck Pharmaceuticals made news across the country.

Then there was a 10,000-word essay from Vanity Fair, which asked “why, despite evidence of serious risk, a potentially lethal contraceptive remains on the market.” And Ricki Lake’s documentary on hormonal contraception and “the unexposed side effects of these powerful medications” is getting backlash from writers at Jezebel.com and Slate.

Registered nurse and pro-life activist Jill Stanek told me this exposure is no surprise, delayed though it is:

“In 2005, the World Health Organization classified the morning-after pill as a Class 1 carcinogen — as dangerous as cigarette smoke and asbestos,” Stanek said. “With all of the studies showing links between oral contraception and greater chances of glaucoma, heart risk and breast-cancer risk, it’s amazing any women use them. And the NuvaRing lawsuit shows how dangerous hormonal contraception is.”

“The American people are belatedly finding out from the mainstream media just how far we’ve gone off the path of proper care of the bodies of women,” stated Stanek. She said media attention to the issue, as well prominent political attention to issues like the HHS contraception mandate, has created “a perfect storm for greater knowledge by women about why they should use better wisdom and responsibility in their sexual practices.”

The harm of contraception is also seen on the unborn, despite claims by the left that contraception lowers abortion rates:

Is increased contraception use related to a decline in abortion rates and occurrences? According to (Live Action’s Libby] Barnes, a look at other nations shows increased contraception use declines abortions only after decades of increasing them – and the new rate is much higher than the old one.

In other words, contraception only lowers abortion rates from abnormally high levels, not overall.

The grievous harms of contraception to the bodies of women are not just seen in the traditional physical sense. As Ed pointed out when we discussed this topic at CPAC, there is also great harm to “human dignity,” something the Catholic Church was ridiculed for predicting 45 years ago:

“If you want to know how harmful [contraception] is, go back to Humanae Vitae,” says Morrissey, “in which basically the Pope predicted everything that followed. At the time, he was ridiculed. … He basically predicted the explosion of pornography, abuse – not just abuse in the legal sense that we talk about it, but in terms of using people in a disposable sense, for fleeting moments of sensory pleasure, which is an affront to human dignity, which is at the center of our faith.”

Obviously, women won’t stop using birth control overnight — and their male sex partners aren’t likely to ask them to stop — but it’s important that young women receive all of the facts surrounding the use of contraception. This is especially true as the HHS mandate forces coverage of products with literally deadly potential.

Update (Dustin): A family physician who reads Hot Air e-mailed that my post had a couple of factual errors. In re-examining the post, I did have one, though I will address his other points as well:

1. I mistakenly said NuVaRing is an intrauterine device. It is, in fact, an intravaginal device.

2. He pointed out that many contraceptives have blood clot risks. This is true, and points to more evidence that contraceptives are harmful to the health of women.

3. According to this physician, NuVaRing has about the same risk factor for thrombosis as a number of other contraceptives. Again, this point from the doctor is well-taken, and shows more reason for women to avoid contraception.

4. The physician accused me of insinuating that Megan Henry’s joining the class-action lawsuit against Merck is an indicator of guilt, but in fact all I did was state that a woman who was harmed by NuVaRing has made news for both her illness and for joining the class-action lawsuit against Merck.

A Merck spokesperson has informed me that the settlement offer to the plaintiffs in the class-action lawsuit does not admit guilt.

 


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Ugh.

themuppet on March 20, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Which makes some recent noise in mainstream media sources about the harms of some forms of contraception quite interesting, and potentially very effective to spreading the word about the real harms of some forms of contraception to women.

Etc.

Obviously, women won’t stop using birth control overnight — and their male sex partners aren’t likely to ask them to stop — but it’s important that young women receive all of the facts surrounding the use of contraception.

People aren’t going to stop using contraception at all.

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Why is this even a topic on a “political” site? The info is useful, but apolitical.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 3:33 PM

So we play defense to a charge that we want to take away birth control for the entirety of the 2012 campaign and then have to hear stuff like this from our own side. More allahpundit, less of this tripe.

NeoConNews on March 20, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Why is this even a topic on a “political” site? The info is useful, but apolitical.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 3:33 PM

It don’t think it gets more political than this. :)

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 3:34 PM

“Benefits”? You mean like blood clots, strokes, cancer, etc.?

Ward Cleaver on March 20, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Looks like abstinence isn’t such a bad option, after all…

Shut up Dustin, that kind of talk never sells to young people. /

nobar on March 20, 2014 at 3:35 PM

using people in a disposable sense

Not a bug but a feature of leftist ideology.

hawkeye54 on March 20, 2014 at 3:35 PM

Ah, the law of unintended consequences. And, they’re free!

vnvet on March 20, 2014 at 3:36 PM

An unusual confessional booth topic, but one nonetheless.

Murphy9 on March 20, 2014 at 3:36 PM

*I. Apologies, bad edit. “I don’t think it gets more political than this.”

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Retweeted by Liberty Unyielding
Jim Treacher ‏@jtLOL 19h

The idea that women are the sole owners of their babies presupposes that they’re sl*ts who don’t care about the fathers. Okay then.
Expand

canopfor on March 20, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Sigh.

DisneyFan on March 20, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Republicans shouldn’t even mention the words “birth control” this election cycle unless they want to blow another winnable shot at control of the Senate.

For once things are going our way – why in God’s name would we want to fight about birth control?

thesilentrepublican on March 20, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Why is this even a topic on a “political” site? The info is useful, but apolitical.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Really?

NotCoach on March 20, 2014 at 3:38 PM

REPUBLICAN WAR ON WOMINZ! DAMN KOCK BRUTHERZ!

Midas on March 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Why is this even a topic on a “political” site? The info is useful, but apolitical.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 3:33 PM

“War on Women” ring any bells?

WitchDoctor on March 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Oh goody, looks like Hot Air is giving us an advance look at Santorum’s 2016 Presidential platform.

Joseph K on March 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Between this sort of stuff and the deceiving android antivirus pop up ads, not enjoying the site as much lately.

NeoConNews on March 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM

So we play defense to a charge that we want to take away birth control for the entirety of the 2012 campaign and then have to hear stuff like this from our own side. More allahpundit, less of this tripe.

NeoConNews on March 20, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Because, you know, the truth is such an awful thing.

NotCoach on March 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Between this sort of stuff and the deceiving android antivirus pop up ads, not enjoying the site as much lately.

NeoConNews on March 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Door, a$$, figure out the rest.

NotCoach on March 20, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Between this sort of stuff and the deceiving android antivirus pop up ads, not enjoying the site as much lately.

NeoConNews on March 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM

See ya later!

Murphy9 on March 20, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Because, you know, the truth is such an awful thing.

NotCoach on March 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Truth is treason.

nobar on March 20, 2014 at 3:41 PM

Those screaming about Dustin posting this should be ashamed of themselves. Are we not allowed to discuss the health risks of birth control?

NotCoach on March 20, 2014 at 3:42 PM

Yes, we must remove free market innovations in order to preserve religious sentiments.

Derp.

antisense on March 20, 2014 at 3:43 PM

I would think that hiding information about health risks related to drugs would be more War On Wommenses™, but the libertines never cease to amaze.

Murphy9 on March 20, 2014 at 3:45 PM

Yes, we must remove free market innovations in order to preserve religious sentiments.

Derp.

antisense on March 20, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Could you quote where Dustin said that? And could you also point out the untruths in what he said about the health risks?

NotCoach on March 20, 2014 at 3:45 PM

I would think that hiding information about health risks related to drugs would be more War On Wommenses™, but the libertines never cease to amaze.

Murphy9 on March 20, 2014 at 3:45 PM

That’s because it’s not really abut health, but preserving their sacred “truths”.

NotCoach on March 20, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Why is this even a topic on a “political” site? The info is useful, but apolitical.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Really?

NotCoach on March 20, 2014 at 3:38 PM

Well then, please explain how the topic of contraceptive IS political.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Yes, we must remove free market innovations in order to preserve religious sentiments.

Derp.

antisense on March 20, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Obviously, women won’t stop using birth control overnight — and their male sex partners aren’t likely to ask them to stop — but it’s important that young women receive all of the facts surrounding the use of contraception. This is especially true as the HHS mandate forces coverage of products with literally deadly potential.

Reading is hard.

DERP!

nobar on March 20, 2014 at 3:47 PM

Why are we MANDATED to pay for Sandra Flukes contraceptive pills but not for everyone’s else’s rubbers? And why are erectile dysfunction pills (viagara, etc) considered ‘recreational’ not paid for? As if ED isn’t a medical condition. Complete and utter nonsense.

RedManBlueState on March 20, 2014 at 3:47 PM

Well then, please explain how the topic of contraceptive IS political.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 3:46 PM

You’re kind of Fluking slow. What the Fluke is wrong with you? For Fluke’s sake, get a Fluking clue.

NotCoach on March 20, 2014 at 3:48 PM

Those screaming about Dustin posting this should be ashamed of themselves. Are we not allowed to discuss the health risks of birth control?

NotCoach on March 20, 2014 at 3:42 PM

A very fair question.

dkmonroe on March 20, 2014 at 3:48 PM

It’s interesting how those on “our side” of the aisle even often have kneejerk reactions to any evidence that might cast doubt on the wisdom of using contraception.

Few things in our society have become so sacrosanct as the idea that we should be able to have all the sex we want, whenever we want, with whomever we want, and free of consequence! Except its not free of consequence. Not by a long shot.

Shump on March 20, 2014 at 3:50 PM

You’re kind of Fluking slow. What the Fluke is wrong with you? For Fluke’s sake, get a Fluking clue.

NotCoach on March 20, 2014 at 3:48 PM

As I suspected, acting like liberals over on HuffPo. When queried on a hard question they don’t want to answer, you just resort to insults.

Contraception is a public health issue, but it should never be a political issue.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 3:51 PM

Why is this even a topic on a “political” site? The info is useful, but apolitical.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 3:33 PM

I am old enough to remember the vitriol dumped by the political left on Nancy Reagan’s “Just Say No” initiative. So there is politics played with what should be apolitical. While it is certainly a fact beyond reasonable debate that no contraceptive can prevent STD’s as effectively as abstinance or monogomy, just say that in public and watch the politicized criticism you will get.

KW64 on March 20, 2014 at 3:52 PM

All medicine has side-effects. Cancer treatments also conveniently cause cancer in some cases. It is a product like any other.

HotAir is not agitating over the health risks of cars, seat belts, chairs, sports equipment, etc. In fact, they hate when tobacco use is targeted.

The logical conclusion from this piece is the author feels contraception, (without even stating what the hell is even being specified), is an unworthy and dangerous part of American life.

The grievous harms of contraception to the bodies of women are not just seen in the traditional physical sense. As Ed pointed out when we discussed this topic at CPAC, there is also great harm to “human dignity,” something the Catholic Church was ridiculed for predicting 45 years ago

So not only does the author find contraception, (all? some?), mortally damaging, but also supernaturally damning to the woman? Also treats it as if all women are harmed.

If medicines were consistently judged as above, we wouldn’t even have aspirin.

antisense on March 20, 2014 at 3:53 PM

CDC’s new estimates show that there are about 20 million new infections
in the United States each year, costing the American healthcare system
nearly $16 billion in direct medical costs alone.

CDC’s new data
suggest that there are more than 110 million total STIs among men and
women across the nation.

CDC’s cost estimates reflect the lifetime direct medical cost per case of eight common STIs in the United States and
do not include either indirect costs (e.g., loss of productivity) or intangible costs (e.g., pain and suffering) associated
with many STIs. Including such costs would have resulted in a substantially higher estimated economic burden.

STIs place a significant economic strain on the U.S. healthcare system. CDC conservatively estimates that the lifetime cost of
treating eight of the most common STIs contracted in just one year is $15.6 billion.
Because some STIs – especially HIV – require lifelong treatment and care, they are by far the costliest. In addition, HPV
is particularly costly due to the expense of treating HPV-related cancers. However, the annual cost of curable STIs is also
significant ($742 million). Among these, chlamydia is most common and therefore the most costly.

http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats/STI-Estimates-Fact-Sheet-Feb-2013.pdf

Murphy9 on March 20, 2014 at 3:55 PM

As if ED isn’t a medical condition. Complete and utter nonsense.

RedManBlueState on March 20, 2014 at 3:47 PM

I know a guy who could help ya.

In fact, Medicare DOES cover certain…pumps. I believe Stossel talked about such coverage.

antisense on March 20, 2014 at 3:55 PM

We’re all just animals with absolutely no self control. We’re just like a bunch of wild goats running around eating, drinking, sleeping and mating. /s

Ruckus_Tom on March 20, 2014 at 3:56 PM

As I suspected, acting like liberals over on HuffPo. When queried on a hard question they don’t want to answer, you just resort to insults.

Contraception is a public health issue, but it should never be a political issue.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 3:51 PM

Fluke an a motherFluker, Fluke an a…

NotCoach on March 20, 2014 at 3:56 PM

You know who really, really supports women being free to chemically spay themselves and/or scrape out their uteri periodically?

Guys wantin’ to get laid.

***

You know who is willing to practice a little abstinence every so often for the sake of the health of their beloved wives and families, who will love and support the children they father?

Faithful married men.

Whose input will I value more on this issue, hmm?

Pless1foEngrish on March 20, 2014 at 3:56 PM

Oh lol and the STD rate among the most elderly people in the US is skyrocketing! But… I thought old people were the most religious?

antisense on March 20, 2014 at 3:57 PM

It’s not just the morning after pill – regular hormonal birth control is a carcinogen too. If this stuff were for anything other than contraception it would have been sued off the market ages ago.

Yes, we must remove free market innovations in order to preserve religious sentiments.

No, I’ll settle for simply not being forced to buy coverage for it.

TXGal on March 20, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Contraception is a public health issue, but it should never be a political issue.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 3:51 PM

But it is. Sort of like denying Health Care isn’t political–Obamacare ring a bell?

hillsoftx on March 20, 2014 at 3:58 PM

CDC estimates that there are more than 19.7 million new STIs in the United States each year. While most of these STIs will
not cause harm, some have the potential to cause serious health problems, especially if not diagnosed and treated early.
Young people (ages 15-24) are particularly affected, accounting for half (50 percent) of all new STIs, although they represent
just 25 percent of the sexually experienced population.

Murphy9 on March 20, 2014 at 3:59 PM

Character doesn’t matter, just vote for the fiscons!

Murphy9 on March 20, 2014 at 4:00 PM

Those screaming about Dustin posting this should be ashamed of themselves. Are we not allowed to discuss the health risks of birth control?

NotCoach on March 20, 2014 at 3:42 PM

More than that. We get to stand in a religious rift. 1.21 Giga-protestants of all stripe, along with Atheists, Buddhists — pretty much every conservative or libertarian on earth that isn’t Catholic — has just been tossed the Roman Catholic understanding of birth control. Not just a matter of physical health:

The grievous harms of contraception to the bodies of women are not just seen in the traditional physical sense. As Ed pointed out when we discussed this topic at CPAC, there is also great harm to “human dignity,” something the Catholic Church was ridiculed for predicting 45 years ago:

“If you want to know how harmful [contraception] is, go back to Humanae Vitae,” says Morrissey, “in which basically the Pope predicted everything that followed. At the time, he was ridiculed. … He basically predicted the explosion of pornography, abuse – not just abuse in the legal sense that we talk about it, but in terms of using people in a disposable sense, for fleeting moments of sensory pleasure, which is an affront to human dignity, which is at the center of our faith.”

–but a matter of fundamental posture.

Should birth control be banned? Is there a civil liberties issue? Is there an issue of correcting misinformation about the healthiness of some forms of contraception, leaving the choice intact? School indoctrination, Sex Ed classes and the point of view they teach kids about birth control, the reality of harm or lack of harm caused by different types of birth control, the belief that there’s nothing sinful in any way about birth control and the shifts in culture could have been predicted anyway . . .

There are ten thousand ways for this to go. :)

Very exciting. I’m making popcorn and hoping for the left column.

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 4:00 PM

If medicines were consistently judged as above, we wouldn’t even have aspirin.

antisense on March 20, 2014 at 3:53 PM

That’s a crock. Everything you listed is known to be dangerous in one way or another. People are informed, and make informed choices. Contraception, on the other hand, is a holy sacrament that must not ever be questioned. If people were actually informed of the health risks and still chose to use contraception that is their business. But don’t pretend for a single second that you aren’t attempting to silence people on this issue.

NotCoach on March 20, 2014 at 4:00 PM

As I suspected, acting like liberals over on HuffPo. When queried on a hard question they don’t want to answer, you just resort to insults.

Contraception is a public health issue, but it should never be a political issue.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 3:51 PM

In case you hadn’t noticed, “public health” is just about the single biggest political issue there is right now.

Shump on March 20, 2014 at 4:00 PM

Humanae Vitae

Since he wasn’t speaking ex cathedra, we don’t have to care.

/what i get on inconvenient Papal encyclicals

mankai on March 20, 2014 at 4:01 PM

You lost me with this inexcusable error which tips willful bias.
Nuvaring is NOT an IUD (Intrauterine device). Nuvaring is amall circle of silicone impregnanted with hormones that disperse into the tissues nearby and then into the blood stream.

There are some women at higher risk from the hormones in the device: women with clotting disorders shouldn’t use it at all.
These are, however, the same women with serious risks from clotting problems related to pregnancy.

It’s also not just used for contraception, it’s used by peri-menopausal and menopausal women to prevent atrophy of the tissues and preserve bladder/urinary tract health.

SarahW on March 20, 2014 at 4:02 PM

Oh lol and the STD rate among the most elderly people in the US is skyrocketing! But… I thought old people were the most religious?

antisense on March 20, 2014 at 3:57 PM

The gross illogic in this comment is staggering.

mankai on March 20, 2014 at 4:03 PM

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 4:00 PM

Contraception is not a right (Griswold is a travesty of justice), but outlawing contraceptives aren’t the answer either. I just want the subject to stop being treated like some sort of religious holy ground that shall not be blasphemed against.

NotCoach on March 20, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Contraception is a public health issue, but it should never be a political issue.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 3:51 PM

From a website of the DNC, a bit of information…

http://www.democrats.org/news/blog/contraception_get_the_facts

(and Tater Salad seems to think if the GOP just stops talking about the issue, the DNC will let it drop, apparently…)

cs89 on March 20, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Nuvaring is placed high in the vaginal canal near the cervix, like a diaphragm or high-placement, mentrual cup, without any central sheet of rubber.

SarahW on March 20, 2014 at 4:04 PM

As I suspected, acting like liberals over on HuffPo. When queried on a hard question they don’t want to answer, you just resort to insults.

Contraception is a public health issue, but it should never be a political issue.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 3:51 PM

In case you hadn’t noticed, “public health” is just about the single biggest political issue there is right now.

Shump on March 20, 2014 at 4:00 PM

Because it has been politicized!

If the GOP is going to die on the hill of stopping the use of contraceptives we will see the same fate as the Democrats are today. If you think contraception is bad, then educate people through your church’s and synagogues.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 4:04 PM

That’s a crock. Everything you listed is known to be dangerous in one way or another. People are informed, and make informed choices. Contraception, on the other hand, is a holy sacrament that must not ever be questioned. If people were actually informed of the health risks and still chose to use contraception that is their business. But don’t pretend for a single second that you aren’t attempting to silence people on this issue.

NotCoach on March 20, 2014 at 4:00 PM

Don’t doctors inform their patients about the side effects/dangers of birth control? I don’t know for a fact (I’m not a woman or a doctor), but I would assume that they treat it just like any other medication they prescribe.

Most prescription drugs don’t have huge public awareness campaigns about their side effects. So why act like there’s a conspiracy to cover up the effects of birth control?

themuppet on March 20, 2014 at 4:05 PM

I’d like to put forward a motion that any poster who uses “lol”, much less “lololol” in a serious answer on an adult political forum have his or her fingers Superglued to their azz.

I say this because “lol” is usually followed by a statement of the quality and thoughtfulness of “you’re a big stupid poopyhead so there.”

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Pless1foEngrish on March 20, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Contraception is not a right (Griswold is a travesty of justice), but outlawing contraceptives aren’t the answer either. I just want the subject to stop being treated like some sort of religious holy ground that shall not be blasphemed against.

NotCoach on March 20, 2014 at 4:04 PM

Agreed. I feel that way about pretty much every “protected subject.”

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Those screaming about Dustin posting this should be ashamed of themselves. Are we not allowed to discuss the health risks of birth control?

I have no problem with discussing the health risks of birth control in a general sense – personally I think it’s clear that some forms of birth control do have negative side effects that aren’t talked about often.

There are issues though. First, Democrats are on the defensive and are desperate to take the focus off of Obamacare (as well as the litany of controversies surrounding the Obama administration). Why would you want to facilitate that by talking about something else?

Second, regardless of how you feel about birth control, it is used in one way or another by the vast majority of the population. It’s been accepted. Consequently, when Dustin moves from a discussion of health risks into moralizing about how it’s destructive to ‘human dignity’ it’s just playing into the negative stereotypes about the GOP that liberals are always pushing – and to no benefit since the populace generally doesn’t support his view.

But that’s just my opinion as a squish who is terrified that we’re going to blow yet another election somehow.

thesilentrepublican on March 20, 2014 at 4:06 PM

Most prescription drugs don’t have huge public awareness campaigns about their side effects. So why act like there’s a conspiracy to cover up the effects of birth control?

themuppet on March 20, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Because there is? And many of the perscribers of birth control work out of the devils storefront; Planned Parenthood. An organization known for its unethical, and downright evil, practices. I don’t trust them to inform women of the health risks.

NotCoach on March 20, 2014 at 4:10 PM

Townhall gets threads like:
Air Force Academy Bible Quote controversy
and
Pueblo County (CO) public school takes kids on field trip to shooting range

And we get – Contraception.

dentarthurdent on March 20, 2014 at 4:12 PM

So we play defense to a charge that we want to take away birth control for the entirety of the 2012 campaign and then have to hear stuff like this from our own side. More allahpundit, less of this tripe.

NeoConNews on March 20, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Ugh, always wonderful to see some person on Hotair spit out more leftist talking points.

No, we don’t present it that way at all. What we present is that the left is in bed with big PHarma on this, and that leftist love womyn to make choices, but only when they are UNEDUCATED and conform to the leftist ideals. This can go RIGHT ALONG WITH the whole Obamacare debate.

melle1228 on March 20, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Unless we treat all sexual health related items the same and say that its shouldn’t cover ED related drugs either, we are going to lose this argument. If God doesn’t want you to have an erection, why should the government intervene.

argusx2002 on March 20, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Because there is? And many of the perscribers of birth control work out of the devils storefront; Planned Parenthood. An organization known for its unethical, and downright evil, practices. I don’t trust them to inform women of the health risks.

NotCoach on March 20, 2014 at 4:10 PM

No one I know gets their “contraceptives”, (still unclear as to what you are specifying), from PP.

Like normal people, they go to a doctor and get a prescription.

I almost wonder if this thread is a reaction to Paul doing well with the younger folks. Like, can’t have that, let’s show how different we are by opposing, (spin the wheel…), all forms of contraception.

By all means, please do read literature about side-effects and so on. I encourage all the people I know to be very informed consumers. Knowledge about the world only helps people make the best decisions.

antisense on March 20, 2014 at 4:15 PM

I thought the Devil’s Storefront was Comcast?

antisense on March 20, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Because it has been politicized!

If the GOP is going to die on the hill of stopping the use of contraceptives we will see the same fate as the Democrats are today. If you think contraception is bad, hen educate people through your church’s and synagogues.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 4:04 PM

First off, I don’t go to Church. Secondly, the GOP’s position shouldn’t be to make people “stop taking anything.” The public should be educated that there is a danger, and whenever something is sacrosanct is leftist world; then the education is nil; see abortion for an example.

Does anyone ever wonder why leftists want to regulate EVERYTHING except sex? It’s because the issue surrounding sex make the government more powerful.

melle1228 on March 20, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Oh lol and the STD rate among the most elderly people in the US is skyrocketing! But… I thought old people were the most religious?

antisense on March 20, 2014 at 3:57 PM

Your nickname says it all… no need to read anything more you post. Wouldn’t make sense.

Neitherleftorright on March 20, 2014 at 4:21 PM

Unless we treat all sexual health related items the same and say that its shouldn’t cover ED related drugs either, we are going to lose this argument. If God doesn’t want you to have an erection, why should the government intervene.

argusx2002 on March 20, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Erectile dysfunction drugs are covered, because most of the time they are needed to CORRECT A MEDICAL problem. Preventing pregnancy is convenience not a medical issue. And all BC is covered if it is to treat a legit. medical problem.

melle1228 on March 20, 2014 at 4:21 PM

Second, regardless of how you feel about birth control, it is used in one way or another by the vast majority of the population. It’s been accepted. Consequently, when Dustin moves from a discussion of health risks into moralizing about how it’s destructive to ‘human dignity’ it’s just playing into the negative stereotypes about the GOP that liberals are always pushing – and to no benefit since the populace generally doesn’t support his view.

thesilentrepublican on March 20, 2014 at 4:06 PM

The answer to that is that liberals rape and sexually molest children, including their own — as we see from Roman Polanski and Woody Allen.

Furthermore, liberals and liberal organizations like Planned Parenthood refuse to report sexual abuse of children and protect rapists and incest practitioners so they can get money for abortions.

If you support liberalism you support drugging, molesting, and raping children. This is the way you fight back against lying bigots like Barack Obama, who himself supported pedophile and child molester Frank Marshall Davis.

northdallasthirty on March 20, 2014 at 4:21 PM

Republicans shouldn’t even mention the words “birth control” this election cycle unless they want to blow another winnable shot at control of the Senate.

For once things are going our way – why in God’s name would we want to fight about birth control?

thesilentrepublican on March 20, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Sadly, I totally agree. If the GOPe could actually put together a coherent and useful argument AHEAD OF TIME and articulate it in a clear manner, then perhaps, but we’ve seen what happens when these clowns think on their own.

This is all part of the BS war on women meme that they will use to club us to death with. There are other hills that are much more effective and important right now than a 40 year old feminism (and this is really the causation) argument.

kim roy on March 20, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Erectile dysfunction drugs are covered, because most of the time they are needed to CORRECT A MEDICAL problem.
melle1228 on March 20, 2014 at 4:21 PM

I just don’t see the benefit of taking one of those drugs and then sitting in a bathtub alone….

dentarthurdent on March 20, 2014 at 4:23 PM

No one I know gets their “contraceptives”, (still unclear as to what you are specifying), from PP.

Like normal people, they go to a doctor and get a prescription.

antisense on March 20, 2014 at 4:15 PM

I know lots of people who get their contraceptives from PP. Its one of their core services especially for many who dont have medical insurance and can’t go to a Dr without paying a bunch of money. PP is cheaper and faster for that sort of thing. Devil’s store front- that’s funny but taking the lunatic fringe point of view is never going to help us win this argument.

argusx2002 on March 20, 2014 at 4:23 PM

“The grievous harms of contraception to the bodies of women are not just seen in the traditional physical sense.”

–Really? All you’ve shown is that one or two forms of contraception might be physically harmful. Not all forms. You need to think better.

jim56 on March 20, 2014 at 4:24 PM

This doesn’t bode well for Sandra and her high-traffic fluke.

Pork-Chop on March 20, 2014 at 4:24 PM

And elsewhere, in an area that recalled a gun-grabbing Dem legislator:
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/03/20/colorado-school-takes-students-on-a-field-trip-to-the-shooting-range-n1812117

dentarthurdent on March 20, 2014 at 4:22 PM

Project Appleseed is a great org.

Murphy9 on March 20, 2014 at 4:24 PM

Unless we treat all sexual health related items the same and say that its shouldn’t cover ED related drugs either, we are going to lose this argument. If God doesn’t want you to have an erection, why should the government intervene.

argusx2002 on March 20, 2014 at 4:15 PM

The correct answer is that you should be free to buy insurance that covers what you want to and not be forced to pay for people like Sandra Fluke who just want the government to pay for their abortions and whose promiscuous behavior is responsible for the massive public-health crisis of STDs in this country.

If you’re being outmaneuvered over ED drugs, you aren’t trying too hard. Simply force the slut Fluke to acknowledge that her pills and her abortions don’t protect her against STDs and that her dependence on both and refusal to use condoms causes billions of dollars in unnecessary public-health expenses annually.

northdallasthirty on March 20, 2014 at 4:25 PM

The answer to that is that liberals rape and sexually molest children, including their own — as we see from Roman Polanski and Woody Allen.

Furthermore, liberals and liberal organizations like Planned Parenthood refuse to report sexual abuse of children and protect rapists and incest practitioners so they can get money for abortions.

If you support liberalism you support drugging, molesting, and raping children. This is the way you fight back against lying bigots like Barack Obama, who himself supported pedophile and child molester Frank Marshall Davis.

northdallasthirty on March 20, 2014 at 4:21 PM

I appreciate the…interesting input.

thesilentrepublican on March 20, 2014 at 4:26 PM

Project Appleseed is a great org.

Murphy9 on March 20, 2014 at 4:24 PM

I was just surprised this was in Pueblo, which is hevily Dem controlled, even though they did recall that Dem rep last year.

dentarthurdent on March 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Who the hell is this Dustin guy? Every single contribution he has made to this site has been utter garbage.

thphilli on March 20, 2014 at 4:27 PM

Erectile dysfunction drugs are covered, because most of the time they are needed to CORRECT A MEDICAL problem. Preventing pregnancy is convenience not a medical issue. And all BC is covered if it is to treat a legit. medical problem.

melle1228 on March 20, 2014 at 4:21 PM

This is exactly the argument that makes us look anti female and hypocritical

argusx2002 on March 20, 2014 at 4:28 PM

The correct answer is that you should be free to buy insurance that covers what you want to and not be forced to pay for people like Sandra Fluke who just want the government to pay for their abortions and whose promiscuous behavior is responsible for the massive public-health crisis of STDs in this country.

If you’re being outmaneuvered over ED drugs, you aren’t trying too hard. Simply force the slut Fluke to acknowledge that her pills and her abortions don’t protect her against STDs and that her dependence on both and refusal to use condoms causes billions of dollars in unnecessary public-health expenses annually.

northdallasthirty on March 20, 2014 at 4:25 PM

Bingo!

melle1228 on March 20, 2014 at 4:28 PM

I know lots of people who get their contraceptives from PP. Its one of their core services especially for many who dont have medical insurance and can’t go to a Dr without paying a bunch of money. PP is cheaper and faster for that sort of thing. Devil’s store front- that’s funny but taking the lunatic fringe point of view is never going to help us win this argument.

argusx2002 on March 20, 2014 at 4:23 PM

I always thought that the line against PP was that they only do abortions, and used contraceptives and other services as a ruse.

I just question the political savvy of railing against something the majority of people decided on long ago.

antisense on March 20, 2014 at 4:29 PM

Anyone who is serious about reducing abortions should be in favour of as much sex education and access to contraception as possible.

Nothing is more disgusting than someone who claims to want to stop abortions but opposes any increase in sex education or access to contraception.

And their appalling hypocrisy proves that their motivation has nothing to do with caring about unwanted babies, and everything to do with legislating their own guilt-ridden repressive sexual morality onto everyone else.

everdiso on March 20, 2014 at 4:31 PM

This is all part of the BS war on women meme that they will use to club us to death with. There are other hills that are much more effective and important right now than a 40 year old feminism (and this is really the causation) argument.

kim roy on March 20, 2014 at 4:22 PM

So?

Turn it right back on them and point out that the “war on women” treats women as imbeciles whose only concern is getting free birth control.

And then tell them that the GOP is not interested in selfish welfare cases, but in women who actually care about jobs, the economy, and national defense — and that anyone stupid enough to believe the “war on women” meme cares about none of those.

Then hammer them. Whenever Pelosi opens her mouth, point out that she’s an imbecile who only votes based on her lady parts and getting free birth control pills. They want it, give it to them full force.

Fight back, dammit.

northdallasthirty on March 20, 2014 at 4:31 PM

Tater Salad

You seem to miss the point that our current administration is forcing people who believe some contraceptives kill people to participate in providing them. This is not about keeping people from contraceptives. It is about being free not to participate in paying for and distributing them, especially contraceptives that kill people.

We lost the battle to stop people from using contraceptives that kill people long ago. Now I’m just trying to keep from paying for them so irresponsible people can nail each indiscriminately creating life with no thought of the consequences, then killing innocent people because they are inconvenient.

jya lai on March 20, 2014 at 4:31 PM

1. Does the plan you are looking at cover the prescription birth control you use?

Every plan must cover the full range of prescription birth control methods (pill, implants, IUDs, etc.) for free with no copay. But some plans will require a copay for certain brands, so you should check with the insurer to be sure your preferred brand is covered for free, and if not, find out how much it will cost.

http://www.plannedparenthoodhealthinsurancefacts.org/plans/questions-women/

Murphy9 on March 20, 2014 at 4:31 PM

This is exactly the argument that makes us look anti female and hypocritical

argusx2002 on March 20, 2014 at 4:28 PM

First off, I am a female. Second, if you don’t understand how medical insurance works; then I can’t help you. Medical insurance covers treatment that cures and helps medical conditions. Impotency is a medical condition. Prevention of pregnancy is not. Not getting pregnant is a convenience much in the same way that a tummy tuck is cosmetic. If you have a medical condition that warrant birth control; then the insurance will cover it. And furthermore, insurance should be able to pick and choose what the hell they cover.

It is people like you who allow leftist to spew their idiotic talking points like “war on womyn.” It is people like you who need to stop feeling entitled.

melle1228 on March 20, 2014 at 4:32 PM

As a GYN who today alone has started seven new patients on the NuvaRing without worrying one iota that they are getting anything but a proven medical benefit, I have to ask about the woman in this article using it as an “intrauterine device”. Wow! How the heck did she get it in and out of there every month?

Marcus on March 20, 2014 at 4:33 PM

Contraception is a public health issue, but it should never be a political issue.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 3:51 PM

In case you hadn’t noticed, “public health” is just about the single biggest political issue there is right now.

Shump on March 20, 2014 at 4:00 PM

Because it has been politicized!

If you think contraception is bad, then educate people through your church’s and synagogues.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 4:04 PM

And a private web site giving various links to different sources of information describing the health risks of various contraceptions is… bad? That was your first objection, right?

Why is this even a topic on a “political” site? The info is useful, but apolitical.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 3:33 PM

Contraception has been politicized from the left… mandatory contraceptive coverage in a health plan? Dustin is pointing out that the government mandates employers provide heir employees with “medicine” that has all the described health risks. Does that not strike you as just a little odd?

Effay5 on March 20, 2014 at 4:34 PM

First off, I don’t go to Church. Secondly, the GOP’s position shouldn’t be to make people “stop taking anything.” The public should be educated that there is a danger, and whenever something is sacrosanct is leftist world; then the education is nil; see abortion for an example.

Does anyone ever wonder why leftists want to regulate EVERYTHING except sex? It’s because the issue surrounding sex make the government more powerful.

melle1228 on March 20, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Melle1228, I couldn’t agree more. My sentiment has been twisted in this discussion as my only point was we should all be educated regarding contraception, not create a political football to tossed and used against us.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Anyone who is serious about reducing abortions should be in favour of as much sex education and access to contraception as possible.

Nothing is more disgusting than someone who claims to want to stop abortions but opposes any increase in sex education or access to contraception.

And their appalling hypocrisy proves that their motivation has nothing to do with caring about unwanted babies, and everything to do with legislating their own guilt-ridden repressive sexual morality onto everyone else.

everdiso on March 20, 2014 at 4:31 PM

LOL.

The reason liberals push abortion and “contraception” is because white liberal males believe women are property who should supply them with sex on demand, don’t want to wear condoms, and don’t want to pay child support.

Liberals adamantly oppose any type of abstinence education because they want women programmed to provide them with sex and be taught that refusing a man sex is wrong.

northdallasthirty on March 20, 2014 at 4:34 PM

Melle1228, I couldn’t agree more. My sentiment has been twisted in this discussion as my only point was we should all be educated regarding contraception, not create a political football to tossed and used against us.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 4:34 PM

I completely agree. This discussion should go no further politically then “You may choose to use BC, and I am not paying for it.”

melle1228 on March 20, 2014 at 4:37 PM

Along the lines of not covering certain medical devices and treatments, would it be fair to not cover surgeries that are caused by sports injuries? Why not have a “conversatin’” about how sports injuries cause untold grievous bodily and spiritual harm to people? such activities are totally voluntary and not needed to conduct daily life. Yet if you own insurance you are paying for such treatment.

In theory, the sports player should pay more for their insurance, even at little league levels. I wonder if that is true?

For instance, it might be the case injury X is seen in 95% of cases due to injuries from hockey. Should the insurance drop it because the activity is voluntary?

Or do we only care about contraception because it touches a religious live wire?

antisense on March 20, 2014 at 4:38 PM

Contraception has been politicized from the left… mandatory contraceptive coverage in a health plan? Dustin is pointing out that the government mandates employers provide heir employees with “medicine” that has all the described health risks. Does that not strike you as just a little odd?

Effay5 on March 20, 2014 at 4:34 PM

My only issue is that the health info should be distributed, from there let the people decide how they want to use it.

Tater Salad on March 20, 2014 at 4:38 PM

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