Great moments in state exchange success: Oregon governor sacks four for site failure

posted at 9:21 pm on March 20, 2014 by Mary Katharine Ham

Well, one guy resigned and the governor asked the state health board to get rid of the others. Perhaps that’s an indicator of the authority and leadership that led to this debacle? The state of Oregon has now evaluated how it spent $200 million on an exchange site that hasn’t enrolled one person. The report cites familiar problems in the Obamacare saga—a “‘fundamental breakdown” of project management, ‘no single point of authority or accountability,’” among other things.

Management breakdowns, over-optimism, and poor work by the main IT vendor contributed to the Cover Oregon health insurance exchange debacle, according to a state consultant’s review.

While releasing the report at the Capitol, Gov. John Kitzhaber said he is “angry and disappointed” by the exchange’s problems, but praised the report as a thorough way to prevent similar problems in the future. He announced that Bruce Goldberg, the former Oregon Health Authority director who now heads the exchange, has resigned — calling it “the right decision.”

Kitzhaber cited… weak contracting and the failure to hire a system integrator, sort of an IT general contractor that had been part of the initial plan.

Kitzhaber also mentioned “mistrust and tension” between the Oregon Health Authority and Cover Oregon, and that “key project managers over time became desensitized” to quality assurance consultant reports that raised warning after warning.

He also stressed poor work by Oracle, and a “unrealistically high sense of optimism among key leaders that Oracle could deliver when key measures indicated that was not possible.”

As with the federal site, there were plenty of signs that this wasn’t going to work, but no one was in a position to recognize or punish subpar performance:

“A consistent theme First Data heard in the interviews was that the continued reassurance of Oracle led Cover Oregon to believe the October rollout was achievable, and Cover Oregon, therefore, continued to reassure the state,” the report said. “Although past performance on the project indicated a history of missed deadlines and problems, the Cover Oregon leadership and the State continued to trust that performance would improve.”

The problem: contracts entered into by the Oregon Health Authority, then taken over by Cover Oregon, lacked any teeth. So Oracle faced no penalty for missed deadlines or poor work.

Goldberg, a close political ally of the governor’s, is not the only one to go. Nice to see them holding people accountable, but no one has any idea how to rescue the site:

Gov. John Kitzhaber announced a major managerial housecleaning Thursday in response to the mounting controversy over the state’s oversight of its disastrous health exchange.

Among the departing is perhaps Kitzhaber’s closest and most important health care reform ally, Bruce Goldberg. Kitzhaber said he also asked the Cover Oregon board to remove Triz DelaRosa, chief operating officer for Cover Oregon, and Aaron Karjala, Cover Oregon’s chief information officer.

“We have made mistakes and we will learn from it,” Kitzhaber said, but added what can be done to rescue the exchange website is unclear. “I’m not saying that this is going to be easy.”

The state has been enrolling people manually, but that doesn’t put the $200 million back in taxpayers’ pockets.

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Wow, four people sacked over a multi-billion dollar boondoggle. Now that’s accountability!

Whitey Ford on March 20, 2014 at 9:25 PM

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha….just too good for words.

vnvet on March 20, 2014 at 9:27 PM

A Møøse once bit my sister… No realli! She was Karving her initials on the møøse with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given her by Svenge – her brother-in-law – an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian møvies: “The Høt Hands of an Oslo Dentist”, “Fillings of Passion”, “The Huge Mølars of Horst Nordfink”

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 9:28 PM

A Møøse once bit my sister… No realli! She was Karving her initials on the møøse with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given her by Svenge – her brother-in-law – an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian møvies: “The Høt Hands of an Oslo Dentist”, “Fillings of Passion”, “The Huge Mølars of Horst Nordfink”

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 9:28 PM

*tilt stare*

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 9:30 PM

A democrat holding someone in their administration accountable? I’m in shock.

WryTrvllr on March 20, 2014 at 9:31 PM

Before the travesty of DeathCare ends — which may well coincide with the end of the Republic — trillions of dollars and millions of lives will be wasted, and not a single government official or bureaucrat will be justly imprisoned as a result (although many patriotic citizens likely will) …

ShainS on March 20, 2014 at 9:32 PM

I’ll rescue it for $1,000,000.

I’ll need three months.

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 9:33 PM

Kitzhaber should have sacked himself as he is the root of the problem.

VorDaj on March 20, 2014 at 9:33 PM

*tilt stare*

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 9:30 PM

We apologise for the fault in the posting. Those responsible have been sacked. Mynd you, møøse bites Kan be pretti nasti…

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 9:35 PM

*tilt stare*

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 9:30 PM

Hey.

What ya’ staring at?

Oh…

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 9:35 PM

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 9:30 PM

Hey.

What ya’ staring at?

Oh…

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 9:35 PM

He was reading a very emotionally moving love story about a girl and a Moose… <— Insert maniacal laughter here.

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 9:37 PM

I’ll rescue it for $1,000,000.

I’ll need three months.

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 9:33 PM

Add a zero. Then retire. Spend the rest of your days worshiping “her”.

KCB on March 20, 2014 at 9:38 PM

We apologise for the fault in the posting. Those responsible have been sacked. Mynd you, møøse bites Kan be pretti nasti…

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 9:35 PM

Perhaps intended for the other thread — in which Norway was mentioned (Video: 78-foot object found by satellite in Flight 370 search)?

ShainS on March 20, 2014 at 9:38 PM

He was reading a very emotionally moving love story about a girl and a Moose… <— Insert maniacal laughter here.

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 9:37 PM

lol! Cooking up big trouble for moose and girl…

Poor Oregon. Look what’s become of them. It used to be such a reasonable and pretty state, too.

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 9:40 PM

an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian møvies: “The Høt Hands of an Oslo Dentist”, “Fillings of Passion”, “The Huge Mølars of Horst Nordfink”

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 9:28 PM

You left out his greatest Norwegian movie ever: “Horizontal Root Canals”.

VorDaj on March 20, 2014 at 9:40 PM

It used to be such a reasonable and pretty state, too.

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 9:40 PM

When? Back in the 1890?

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 9:41 PM

Another HA poster once said…paraphrase, “every thing democrats ever touch, they fuk it up.”

arnold ziffel on March 20, 2014 at 9:42 PM

A Møøse once bit my sister… No realli! She was Karving her initials on the møøse with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given her by Svenge – her brother-in-law – an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian møvies: “The Høt Hands of an Oslo Dentist”, “Fillings of Passion”, “The Huge Mølars of Horst Nordfink”

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 9:28 PM

Python?

WryTrvllr on March 20, 2014 at 9:42 PM

It’s still pretty….

KCB on March 20, 2014 at 9:42 PM

The state of Oregon has now evaluated how it spent $200 million on an exchange site that hasn’t enrolled one person.

It didn’t dawn on them to do this…… oh back when they tipped the $100M point? And only four people fired. Okay, they each owe the taxpayer $50M.

Happy Nomad on March 20, 2014 at 9:43 PM

Perhaps intended for the other thread — in which Norway was mentioned (Video: 78-foot object found by satellite in Flight 370 search)?

ShainS on March 20, 2014 at 9:38 PM

We apologise again for the fault in the posting. Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked have been sacked. Møøse trained by YUTTE HERMSGERVØRDENBRØTBØRDA Special Møøse Effects OLAF PROT Møøse Costumes SIGGI CHURCHILLMøøse Choreographed by HORST PROT III Miss Taylor’s Møøses by HENGST DOUGLAS-HOME Møøse trained to mix concrete and sign complicated insurance forms by JURGEN WIGG Møøses’ noses wiped by BJØRN IRKESTØM-SLATER WALKER Large møøse on the left hand side of the screen in the third scene from the end, given a thorough grounding in Latin, French and “O” Level Geography by BO BENN Suggestive poses for the Møøse suggested by VIC ROTTER Antler-care by LIV THATCHER The directors of the firm hired to continue the posting after the other people had been sacked, wish it to be known that they have just been sacked. The posting has been completed in an entirely different style at great expense and at the last minute. Executive Producer JOHN GOLDSTONE & “RALPH” The Wonder Llama Producer MARK FORSTATER Assisted By EARL J. LLAMA MIKE Q. LLAMA III SY LLAMA MERLE Z. LLAMA IX Directed By 40 SPECIALLY TRAINED ECUADORIAN MOUNTAIN LLAMAS 6 VENEZUELAN RED LLAMAS 142 MEXICAN WHOOPING LLAMAS 14 NORTH CHILEAN GUANACOS (CLOSELY RELATED TO THE LLAMA) REG LLAMA OF BRIXTON 76000 BATTERY LLAMAS FROM “LLAMA-FRESH” FARMS LTD. NEAR PARAGUAY and TERRY GILLIAM & TERRY JONES

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 9:43 PM

I’ll rescue it for $10,000,000.

I’ll need three months.

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 9:44 PM

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 9:41 PM

And even later, too. Logging, ranchers, farms, orchards and groves.

Many decent, hard working, reliable people and voted fairly conservative, too… until Californian’s decided to move up there in droves… and vote to make it just like the places they bailed out of in the first place.

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 9:44 PM

Of course the governor took no responsibility for the $300 million (and counting) boondoggle. He also used $250,000 of the tax payers money to conduct an investigation to tell him the website doesn’t work. He’ll more than likely be reelected.

Jackson on March 20, 2014 at 9:45 PM

*tilt stare*

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 9:30 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6674ozx16D0

Socratease on March 20, 2014 at 9:45 PM

’ll rescue it for $10,000,000.

I’ll need three months.

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 9:44 PM

Excellent! Let’s get that Governor on the phone!

KCB on March 20, 2014 at 9:45 PM

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 9:43 PM

But… were any animals… real or fictitious…harmed in the making of the films… or the sackings?

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 9:46 PM

’ll rescue it for $10,000,000.

I’ll need three months.

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 9:44 PM

Don’t you dare rescue it… not for love and/or money.

Ken, stop trying to corrupt Axefellow.

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 9:47 PM

until Californian’s decided to move up there in droves… and vote to make it just like the places they bailed out of in the first place.

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 9:44 PM

Moving to California, living here for 5 years and then moving again does not make one from California… <— Insert incredulous look here

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 9:47 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6674ozx16D0

Socratease on March 20, 2014 at 9:45 PM

Ug! Yes. Of course.

Holy cow.

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 9:47 PM

Ken, stop trying to corrupt Axefellow.

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 9:47 PM

lol :)

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 9:49 PM

Don’t you dare rescue it… not for love and/or money.

Ken, stop trying to corrupt Axefellow.

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 9:47 PM

Ten million dollars of oregonian’s money? Why not? Capitalism, my Dear!

KCB on March 20, 2014 at 9:49 PM

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 9:47 PM

No one suggested it did.

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 9:49 PM

Kitzhaber is the real culprit

gerrym51 on March 20, 2014 at 9:49 PM

But… were any animals… real or fictitious…harmed in the making of the films… or the sackings?

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 9:46 PM

Most, if not all of them. But they were asking for it.

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 9:51 PM

The state of Oregon has now evaluated how it spent $200 million on an exchange site that hasn’t enrolled one person.

Why hasn’t Obama helped out here?

I mean…Obama could fly in to Portland…

Give a speech…

Then the whole damn bunch of them would sign up…..

Well..

They would have to be non-stoned…

Nope…ain’t goin’ to happen…

Electrongod on March 20, 2014 at 9:52 PM

Marx, either Groucho or Karl, I can’t remember which, maybe it was both or maybe it was Harpo, once said that America is the opiate of the people. I say that when the democrats’ fundamental transformation of America is complete, then insanity will be the opiate of the people … Ahh that’s not a bad idea… we are going to all need that badly especially after all the booze runs out …

RasThavas on March 20, 2014 at 9:52 PM

KCB on March 20, 2014 at 9:49 PM

Because… don’t feed the leviathan. Let its makers fix it…and stand back and watch it devour them.

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 9:53 PM

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 9:43 PM

must be a toilet flange

gerrym51 on March 20, 2014 at 9:53 PM

Moving to California, living here for 5 years and then moving again does not make one from California… <— Insert incredulous look here

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 9:47 PM

True but all my California relatives (who were there for decades) now live in and are sadly killing the conservative creds of Arizona. It’s no secret that long-time Californians have cashed out and are spreading their nonsense in Oregon, Washington, Arizona, and now even Austin and Dallas.

Happy Nomad on March 20, 2014 at 9:54 PM

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 9:47 PM

No one suggested it did.

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 9:49 PM

Sorry… I just get a little tickish when some one says Californians fleeing California ruined their state, 52 percent of California’s population is from the other 49 states. California didn’t even get the way it is because of “Californian’s”.

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 9:55 PM

Flanges are important.

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 9:55 PM

True but all my California relatives (who were there for decades) now live in and are sadly killing the conservative creds of Arizona. It’s no secret that long-time Californians have cashed out and are spreading their nonsense in Oregon, Washington, Arizona, and now even Austin and Dallas.

Happy Nomad on March 20, 2014 at 9:54 PM

Were those California relatives of yours from somewhere else before they lived in California?

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 9:56 PM

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 9:55 PM

I suppose that’s a fair enough point, Mr. Wilde. It’s not a matter of shelf life or even origin. It’s a matter of mind set and carpetbagging. The moochers and looters ruin every place they puddle up.

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 9:58 PM

Flanges are important.

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 9:55 PM

Unfortunately for me, some more than others.

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 9:59 PM

The moochers and looters ruin every place they puddle up.

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 9:58 PM

Well said.

KCB on March 20, 2014 at 9:59 PM

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 9:55 PM

I suppose that’s a fair enough point, Mr. Wilde. It’s not a matter of shelf life or even origin. It’s a matter of mind set and carpetbagging. The moochers and looters ruin every place they puddle up.

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 9:58 PM

I like to call them, financial locust, because they move around for money, and destroy every place they go bringing their socialist mentality with them.

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 10:00 PM

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 9:55 PM

So are rheotstaic flangelators…

uh, oh. Did I say that?

I think Spark’s contagious again…

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 10:01 PM

I kinda’ like the analogy Flange used, up above.
.
But I believe the movie did MUCH better than this “Government mandated, managed, and administered” medical services will ever do.

listens2glenn on March 20, 2014 at 10:01 PM

OT/Know what thread’s already pushing 300 hits and is not going in the left column? http://hotair.com/archives/2014/03/20/new-look-at-the-benefits-of-contraception/ Know why? Exactly.

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 10:02 PM

I like to call them, financial locust, because they move around for money, and destroy every place they go bringing their socialist mentality with them.

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 10:00 PM

Then look at the destuction, scratch their heads, and move on to the next place.

KCB on March 20, 2014 at 10:02 PM

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 10:00 PM

I like that term… especially the plague aspect. Well said, Mr. Wilde. :)

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 10:03 PM

Flanges are important.

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 9:55 PM

.
So … you like railroad transportation, huh ?

listens2glenn on March 20, 2014 at 10:03 PM

But… were any animals… real or fictitious…harmed in the making of the films… or the sackings?

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 9:46 PM

.
Most, if not all of them. But they were asking for it.

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 9:51 PM

.
That’s still a lot less than were hurt producing “Ben Hur“.

listens2glenn on March 20, 2014 at 10:05 PM

Unfortunately for me, some more than others.

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 9:59 PM

One of my favorite demotivational posters:

“Just because you’re necessary doesn’t mean you’re important.”

Howevah.

Sell never yourself short, gentle flange. The time comes when only one part will do, and then all lips take up together the desperate chant, and all the world calls out:

Flange. Flange! FLANGE!

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 10:06 PM

So … you like railroad transportation, huh ?

listens2glenn on March 20, 2014 at 10:03 PM

*tilt stare*

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 10:07 PM

Were those California relatives of yours from somewhere else before they lived in California?

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 9:56 PM

If you mean that they can’t trace their lineage back to a Spanish land grant from the 1600s, then yes, they used to live somewhere else.

Happy Nomad on March 20, 2014 at 10:07 PM

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 10:02 PM

I’m going to tax you for making me go look at that thread.

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 10:07 PM

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 10:00 PM

Then look at the destuction, scratch their heads, and move on to the next place.

KCB on March 20, 2014 at 10:02 PM

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 10:00 PM

I like that term… especially the plague aspect. Well said, Mr. Wilde. :)

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 10:03 PM

California is a victim of it’s own success. Our success in the 50′s 60′s and 70′s led to a massive influx of financial locust who brought their socialist mentalities with them. Now, those same financial locusts are fleeing California for greener pastures and causing the same devastation in the neighboring state as they caused in California.

California is getting a bad rap because these people are coming from California, but California is not where they came from originally, and it’s not where they learned their socialist stupidity.

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 10:09 PM

So … you like railroad transportation, huh ?

listens2glenn on March 20, 2014 at 10:03 PM

*tilt stare*

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 10:07 PM

We keep the trains on the track.

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 10:10 PM

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 10:09 PM

Sadly, true.

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 10:10 PM

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 9:56 PM

If you mean that they can’t trace their lineage back to a Spanish land grant from the 1600s, then yes, they used to live somewhere else.

Happy Nomad on March 20, 2014 at 10:07 PM

OK, let’s make this real simple, since you are intentionally being obtuse… Were your California relatives Born in California? Or, were they born somewhere else and then moved to California?

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 10:11 PM

Flange. Flange! FLANGE!

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 10:06 PM

Alright! I’ll do it! But what are we doing?

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Happy Nomad on March 20, 2014 at 10:07 PM

OK, let’s make this real simple, since you are intentionally being obtuse… Were your California relatives Born in California? Or, were they born somewhere else and then moved to California?

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 10:11 PM

Remember, 52 percent of California’s population were born in one of the other 49 states and moved here after the age of 18.

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Flanges are important.

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 9:55 PM
.

So … you like railroad transportation, huh ?

listens2glenn on March 20, 2014 at 10:03 PM

.
*tilt stare*

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 10:07 PM

.
Aw … c’mon . . . . . you can’t get any more “flange happy” than the railroad industry.

listens2glenn on March 20, 2014 at 10:13 PM

We keep the trains on the track.

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 10:10 PM

Who’s we? I do not!

SPEAK ENGLISH, MISCREANTS

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 10:06 PM

Alright! I’ll do it! But what are we doing?

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Jello Shooters… <— Insert devilish grin here…

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 10:13 PM

That’s still a lot less than were hurt producing “Ben Hur“.

listens2glenn on March 20, 2014 at 10:05 PM

They had a bigger budget.

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 10:15 PM

Who’s we? I do not!

SPEAK ENGLISH, MISCREANTS

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Flanges keep trains on the track, and that is English.

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 10:19 PM

Alright! I’ll do it! But what are we doing?

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 10:13 PM

. . . lol . . . um . . . alright, we start by getting the website back on the tracks. Then, I get Sophie somehow. It’s an underpants gnome thing; I really don’t see the connection, but Ken said it on the Internet, so it must be true. You can have the money I guess. And then, um . . . we . . . make YouTube videos that go viral starring your sister and her moose. Sry — møøse.

. . . it get’s fuzzy from there, but that’s good enough to get on with.

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 10:19 PM

Jello Shooters… <— Insert devilish grin here…

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 10:13 PM

Yeah, add that. :)

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 10:20 PM

They had a bigger budget.

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 10:15 PM

And chariots and all those spears and arrows and other pointy things.

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 10:20 PM

So … you like railroad transportation, huh ?

listens2glenn on March 20, 2014 at 10:03 PM
..

*tilt stare*

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 10:07 PM

.
We keep the trains on the track.

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 10:10 PM

.
. . . . . and take a LOT of “wear ‘n’ tear” doing it.

Nothing like hearing flanges ‘squealing’ through the curves, and wheels banging over rail-joints and switch “frogs”, to get an old “foamer” reminiscing.

listens2glenn on March 20, 2014 at 10:20 PM

Fundamental breakdown of management………….

That appears to be a consistent theme amongst Democrats. “Wishing” something does not necessarily make it so!

GarandFan on March 20, 2014 at 10:30 PM

OK, let’s make this real simple, since you are intentionally being obtuse… Were your California relatives Born in California? Or, were they born somewhere else and then moved to California?

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 10:11 PM

Born elsewhere and spent 50 years or so living and raising their families in Los Angeles.

I can see where you’re headed here. You aren’t a real Californian unless you meet certain criteria. Otherwise you’re just an interloper who has no right to be call themselves a Californian. And I feel fairly safe in saying that you think your roots have to be before all those damned Okies showed up in the 1930s.

Well, it may come as a shock to you but many Americans in 2014 would rather be thought sex offenders before the neighbors think they are transplanted Californians!

Happy Nomad on March 20, 2014 at 10:30 PM

Nothing like hearing flanges ‘squealing’ through the curves, and wheels banging over rail-joints and switch “frogs”, to get an old “foamer” reminiscing.

listens2glenn on March 20, 2014 at 10:20 PM

Like a train?

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 10:31 PM

. . . it get’s fuzzy from there, but that’s good enough to get on with.

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 10:19 PM

That’s more to go on than most plans these days.

Flange on March 20, 2014 at 10:34 PM

Llamas!

roy_batty on March 20, 2014 at 10:42 PM

OK, let’s make this real simple, since you are intentionally being obtuse… Were your California relatives Born in California? Or, were they born somewhere else and then moved to California?

oscarwilde on March 20, 2014 at 10:11 PM

Born elsewhere and spent 50 years or so living and raising their families in Los Angeles.

I can see where you’re headed here. You aren’t a real Californian unless you meet certain criteria. Otherwise you’re just an interloper who has no right to be call themselves a Californian. And I feel fairly safe in saying that you think your roots have to be before all those damned Okies showed up in the 1930s.

Well, it may come as a shock to you but many Americans in 2014 would rather be thought sex offenders before the neighbors think they are transplanted Californians!

Happy Nomad on March 20, 2014 at 10:30 PM

Come on, guys. Let’s face it. It’s a matter of perception.

There are plenty of Mexican’s who’d claim anyone who wasn’t born in Mexico, or Spain, wasn’t a native Californian, and plenty of Cahuilla Indians (and the various other regional tribes) who’d claim anyone not born a Native American wasn’t a native Californian.

Many of those families who moved to California and worked and raised their families there helped to build California…and earned the right to call themselves Californians.

Unlike those who moved there simply because California started offering more generous welfare programs and sported an excellent climate.

thatsafactjack on March 20, 2014 at 10:45 PM

I expect this was seen as a huge boondoggle graft opportunity by those in the state capitol. Management jobs were all filled by people with connections to state Democratic bigs. As a result none of them were competent to judge talent required to fill the actual worker jobs.

Worker level positions were filled by unemployed artistes, cute baristas, and new-age hippies of hard-to-determine gender. They had some marvelous courses in team-building and diversity, but in the end, all management could do was plead “make it go!”

slickwillie2001 on March 20, 2014 at 10:57 PM

NO.

There is NO “accountability” when $200 million disappears and everyone with fiduciary responsibility walks away unscathed. They either stole the money or funneled it to cronies who stole it. Send the lot of them to prison, and we’ll have accountability.

Adjoran on March 20, 2014 at 11:10 PM

True but all my California relatives (who were there for decades) now live in and are sadly killing the conservative creds of Arizona. It’s no secret that long-time Californians have cashed out and are spreading their nonsense in Oregon, Washington, Arizona, and now even Austin and Dallas.

Happy Nomad on March 20, 2014 at 9:54 PM

You ain’t kidding!
Signed “Suffering in Arizona”

Hill60 on March 20, 2014 at 11:11 PM

You ain’t kidding!
Signed “Suffering in Arizona”

Hill60 on March 20, 2014 at 11:11 PM

If you’re anywhere near Chandler, I can tell you who is cancelling out your vote.

Happy Nomad on March 20, 2014 at 11:22 PM

Great moments in state exchange success: Oregon governor sacks four for site failure

Wonder where those four are going next…probably some kind of Dem or Lib activist organization at twice the salary.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 21, 2014 at 12:16 AM

If you put Flange in charge of Cover Oregon, you’ll be pleased with the results. (some of that sentence may need a footnote)

goatweed on March 21, 2014 at 12:21 AM

Great moments in state exchange success: Oregon governor sacks four for site failure

Alternate headline:

Great moments in state exchange success: Oregon governor decides who to blame

There Goes the Neighborhood on March 21, 2014 at 12:44 AM

I live in Oregon and I notice on glaring omission from the list of those to blame.

That would be John Kitzhaber.

It is the executive’s job to know when the people he picked are not up to the job. It appears to me that NONE of the people that Kitzhaber chose were capable.

The Buck Stops Here –>.

schmuck281 on March 21, 2014 at 1:05 AM

Nothing like hearing flanges ‘squealing’ through the curves, and wheels banging over rail-joints and switch “frogs”, to get an old “foamer” reminiscing.

listens2glenn on March 20, 2014 at 10:20 PM

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Like a train?

Axe on March 20, 2014 at 10:31 PM

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Train ? . . . . . what, are you inventing new words, or something ?
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. . . Y E S !

listens2glenn on March 21, 2014 at 2:01 AM

I live in Oregon and I notice on glaring omission from the list of those to blame.

That would be John Kitzhaber.

It is the executive’s job to know when the people he picked are not up to the job. It appears to me that NONE of the people that Kitzhaber chose were capable.

The Buck Stops Here –>.

schmuck281 on March 21, 2014 at 1:05 AM

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Of course, I realize that we’re talking about state level government and bureaucracy, but it’s still all Bush’s fault.
Somehow, way, or another “W” is responsible for this . . . . . like everything else.

listens2glenn on March 21, 2014 at 2:07 AM

The mistake that was made happened when Kitzhaber was elected Governor of our state. If it wasn’t for the city of Portland and their keep Portland weird attitude maybe this catastrophe of a program and many other problems in our state would have been solved. Another failure contributed by Democrat Governors.

regmgr on March 21, 2014 at 10:34 AM

We’ll just call this $200 million debacle “Kitzhaber’s Klusterfark”.

earlgrey on March 21, 2014 at 11:26 AM

We demand Moar hippie adverts for Coverup Oregon!

DaMav on March 21, 2014 at 1:28 PM