Video: Sick pastor says “no compassion” in ObamaCare

posted at 3:21 pm on March 18, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

More argument by anecdote, of course, and ObamaCare supporters will waste no time trying to attack this as somehow proof of how well ObamaCare works.  WHO in Iowa reports that a pastor attempted to get coverage through the new health-insurance system, and ended up with an $850 per month bill for a plan that won’t take effect for another two weeks:

With just two weeks before all Americans must have a form of medical insurance under the Affordable Care Act, one local pastor says it’s anything but affordable.

Pastor Tony Angran of Centerville was diagnosed with cancer of the esophagus in January. He had insurance, but it did not cover certain things, like chemo. Since then, he has racked up $50,000 in medical bills and emptied his savings account.

So Angran signed up for insurance through the Affordable Care Act exchange. But with premiums of $850 per month, Angran says it isn’t affordable either, and he can’t get the treatment he needs until he has the right insurance. “I’m struggling here with stage three cancer and they’re sending me to the financial person to find out how are you going to pay for this?” Angran says.

Daniel Halper grabs some good quotes from the clip at The Weekly Standard:

The pastor says, “One of the workers came and said let me talk to you. And so I went to talk to her. She says that we found out that your insurance does not include chemo.”

“Over the past two months, the Angrans have emptied their savings account and racked up $50,000 in debt. They signed up for the Affordable Care Act,” says the local reporter, “but found it to be anything but affordable. It will cost the couple more than $800 per month, money they just don’t have.”

The Angrans had it bad both ways, and this anecdote very well could be used as an indictment of insurance companies before ObamaCare, too. After all, the reason Pastor Angran switched plans was because his original insurer refused to cover his chemo. Now he’s paying through the nose, and at least for the time being it looks like his new insurance still won’t cover some of those costs. Clearly, the Angrans are unhappy with ObamaCare as the end result, but I’m certain some of its supporters will shortly chime in to tell them just how fortunate they really are.

That strategy appears all that’s left to Democrats now — attacking the people complaining about the impact of ObamaCare in their lives. The White House is desperately attempting to spin the news from Healthcare.gov as a win, but signing up 5 million people is not the same as enrolling them, and it’s hardly an achievement when the law caused between five and six million people out of their existing plans first. Democrats insisted that the crisis of having 40+ million uninsured required the “fierce urgency of now” for a resolution, and yet all they’ve managed to do is come close to breaking even.

Good luck selling that this November, when employers start kicking workers out of their plans. Michael Ramirez offers his view of the electoral hopes of Democrats this year as long as they cling to ObamaCare:

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Isn’t that pastor Hawk’s friend?

annoyinglittletwerp on March 18, 2014 at 3:23 PM

Welcome to the party Pastor.
Time to start praying for the country.

LeftCoastRight on March 18, 2014 at 3:23 PM

All lies.

-Harry Reid

antipc on March 18, 2014 at 3:25 PM

$850 a month is a pretty good deal for someone with a pre-existing condition like cancer and who is switching from a bad insurance policy that didn’t pay for the treatment.

This is a good example of why premiums will be going up under Obamacare for healthy people. Or why the private insurers will go broke.

kcewa on March 18, 2014 at 3:29 PM

“Affordable Care Act”

100% democrat

Murphy9 on March 18, 2014 at 3:30 PM

The cartoon of the cement block-weighted donkey underwater makes me smile.

MisterElephant on March 18, 2014 at 3:30 PM

kcewa on March 18, 2014 at 3:29 PM

The pastor could be dead soon if he doesn’t get his treatment.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 18, 2014 at 3:31 PM

What the heck is he talking about? He can get a pain pill, and that is certainly compassionate. He just needs to make the right choice.

platypus on March 18, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Who did you vote for Pastor???…

PatriotRider on March 18, 2014 at 3:33 PM

PatriotRider on March 18, 2014 at 3:33 PM

hawkdriver mentioned his pastor friend who had a story very similar to this.
Might be the same guy.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 18, 2014 at 3:35 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 18, 2014 at 3:23 PM

Hawk’s pastor had a heart attack. This is not him.

Barred on March 18, 2014 at 3:37 PM

Oil polluting Koch Bothers must have had something to do with this…

Electrongod on March 18, 2014 at 3:41 PM

Barred on March 18, 2014 at 3:37 PM

Okay.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 18, 2014 at 3:42 PM

Will this guy be a backdrop for Obama’s next ObamaCare infomercial?

Electrongod on March 18, 2014 at 3:42 PM

They’ve been attacking the messengers since Joe the Plumber.

mbs on March 18, 2014 at 3:44 PM

I’ll blame Bush. And Bishop.

kringeesmom on March 18, 2014 at 3:46 PM

Facing the death panels that don’t exist!!

Deano1952 on March 18, 2014 at 3:48 PM

just another made up story by the kock brothers.

phatfawzi on March 18, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Man, what a liar – right Harry? /

Midas on March 18, 2014 at 3:54 PM

The pastor could be dead soon if he doesn’t get his treatment.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 18, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Absolutely he should get his treatment and I don’t mind helping him – but it should be handled as a charity case under medicare or the like.

I don’t think cases like this represent an adequate reason to radically change our system of medical insurance. Unless the intent was to make it go broke and replace it with a single payor system.

kcewa on March 18, 2014 at 3:54 PM

The pastor needs to look at his cable and cell phone bills and make the right decision.

docflash on March 18, 2014 at 3:55 PM

$850 a month is a pretty good deal for someone with a pre-existing condition like cancer

kcewa on March 18, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Totally agree. The problem is that people were promised that Obamacare would cure all ills for a low, or even nonexistent, price. They weren’t expecting restrictions and limitations. Ignorance can be fatal.

soozq on March 18, 2014 at 3:56 PM

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VorDaj on March 18, 2014 at 3:55 PM

From the link. “Boeing has not commented.”

kcewa on March 18, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Good luck selling that this November, when employers start kicking workers out of their plans.

LOL, Ed. *shakes head*

You still think, after the endless and illegal delays, exemptions, extensions, etc – that this is going to happen?

Good grief. The GOP, to their discredit, is banking on that too.

Midas on March 18, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Totally agree. The problem is that people were promised that Obamacare would cure all ills for a low, or even nonexistent, price. They weren’t expecting restrictions and limitations. Ignorance can be fatal.

soozq on March 18, 2014 at 3:56 PM

Yep. Especially when their ignorance was fed by lies from our government and President. Obama should be the one going broke – not this pastor.

kcewa on March 18, 2014 at 4:01 PM

The pastor needs to look at his cable and cell phone bills and make the right decision.

docflash on March 18, 2014 at 3:55 PM

THIS!!! The pastor just needs to learn to prioritize!

ladyingray on March 18, 2014 at 4:03 PM

By Obama, I think we will win in a huge landslide this November. Any talk of Barack Obama and ObamaCare being a negative in any way for Democrats this November is merely an insane prattle. The fact is that as soon as our lying opponents speak out against ObamaCare with their lies about having cancer or any other lies, we besiege them and slaughter them. Wherever Barack Obama’s and ObamaCare’s opponents go they will find themselves encircled by billions of Obama’s and ObamaCare’s loving supporters. These lying liars who say they have cancer and their Tea Party masters will be burnt. We are going to tackle them. We are going to hit them with shoes! Barack Obama’s and ObamaCare’s opponents will be committing suicide by the millions come this November. Be assured, Barack Obama’s Presidency for Life is safe, protected, and ObamaCare will sweep the land. – (Joint statement released by Harry and Debbie from DNC HQ)

VorDaj on March 18, 2014 at 4:08 PM

It sounded like the reporter made a Freudian slip there at the end and at first said “Affordable Kill Act.”

WhatSlushfund on March 18, 2014 at 4:14 PM

He’s a pastor, so he should know Romans 13. Governments have a very specific purpose, and that purpose (punishing bad guys) does not lend itself to compassion.

Much like when the church takes on the role of secular government, the results tend to be horrifying when any authority steps outside their God-given role.

TheMightyMonarch on March 18, 2014 at 4:15 PM

Sick pastor says “no compassion” in ObamaCare

Of course not.
The Dems talk compassion – but NONE of their policies actually have any.

dentarthurdent on March 18, 2014 at 4:18 PM

I’m surprised the Paster went to A government program instead of a Christian health sharing program of which there are several: How To Opt Out Of Obamacare. Know your options and become savvy self-pay patients. Join a health care sharing ministry. These are voluntary, charitable membership organizations that agree to share medical bills among the membership. They function similar to insurance, and are probably the best alternative to conventional health insurance. There are four of them, at least that I know of. Three are open only to practicing Christians (Samaritan Ministries, Christian Healthcare Ministries, and Christian Care Ministry) while a fourth, Liberty HealthShare, is open to anyone who agrees with their ethical commitment to religious liberty. They operate entirely outside of Obamacare’s regulations, and typically offer benefits for about half the cost of similar health insurance. Members are also exempt from having to pay the tax for being uninsured. From the article by Sean Parnell http://thefederalist. com/2013/12/04/opt-obamacare/#.Up9MwGKiM_o.email

devan95 on March 18, 2014 at 4:33 PM

The pastor needs to look at his cable and cell phone bills and make the right decision.

docflash on March 18, 2014 at 3:55 PM

THIS!!! The pastor just needs to learn to prioritize!

ladyingray on March 18, 2014 at 4:03 PM

The reprehensible thing is that this is precisely the kind of compassion shown by the rat-eared wonder when talking about all those haters who aren’t making him look good.

And not to make light of the pastor’s medical problems but I would point out that while his plan does not cover chemo, he can have all the contraception and PAP smears he needs thanks to Obamacare.

Happy Nomad on March 18, 2014 at 4:36 PM

The Dems talk compassion – but NONE of their policies actually have any.

dentarthurdent on March 18, 2014 at 4:18 PM

But they’ll all show up for the memorial service of one of their own that died of a heroin overdose. Even use the event to promote certain designers. That too is part of liberal compassion- like a pack of feral dogs, you prey on the weak.

Happy Nomad on March 18, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Yep. Especially when their ignorance was fed by lies from our government and President. Obama should be the one going broke – not this pastor.

kcewa on March 18, 2014 at 4:01 PM

Depends what you mean by “broke” The lazy stupid rat-eared bastard has been morally and ethically bankrupt for years.

Happy Nomad on March 18, 2014 at 4:41 PM

My husband passed away on February 6th.

He was VA, but was treated at Tampa General due to emergency circumstances… he was in patient for 10 days and incurred $133k in charges. They discharged him without assigning him a visiting nurse for IV antibiotics because he didn’t “qualify” for ObamaCare. They marched him out the door on 1/5/14 and he was dead a month later.

Don’t tell me ObamaCares or I will stab you in the face.

This is a BAD law. Hospitals used to NEVER discharge a patient without the needed follow up care. They are allowed to do this now. Thank you Democrats may you burn in Hades. I hate you all.

Key West Reader on March 18, 2014 at 4:48 PM

but I’m certain some of its supporters will shortly chime in to tell them just how fortunate they really are.

You mean supporters like Harry Reid…he’ll say this is just another “made up story” by the evil rethuglicans and that the pastor is a LIAR!!

Liberty or Death on March 18, 2014 at 4:51 PM

devan95 on March 18, 2014 at 4:33 PM

When we say donkey voters are all in, we really mean they are all in. This guy almost certainly voted for the jugeared jackass and therefore it made perfect sense to him to sign up.

Bad habits are almost impossible to break. Bad beliefs require God to intervene in order to break them.

platypus on March 18, 2014 at 5:04 PM

Key West Reader on March 18, 2014 at 4:48 PM

You have my sympathies for your loss. I beg you to keep a leash on your hate, justified though it may be. We don’t want you to be overwhelmed with it so that your soul gets smothered in it.

platypus on March 18, 2014 at 5:08 PM

…he’s lying!…liberals say so!

KOOLAID2 on March 18, 2014 at 5:15 PM

Why the shock about how awful a POTUS Obama has been? After all, didn’t Jefferson, Nixon, and Truman already prove that any Tom, Dick, or Harry could be president?

Dr. Charles G. Waugh on March 18, 2014 at 5:21 PM

platypus on March 18, 2014 at 5:08 PM

You are very kind. It was a long hard illness and he is now at peace. But when I see treatment being denied to folks like my husband and this pastor it only reminds me of Sarah Palin’s warning about death panels.

He was only 44 years old.

Key West Reader on March 18, 2014 at 5:23 PM

But these Obamacare posts are about whistling past the graveyard, by next Novemeber Democrats will be openly running on the ACA. Mark my words.
libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2014 at 5:25 PM

Key West Reader, my condolences on your loss.

These stories bother me to no end. I wish there was something I could do to change things.

Anna on March 18, 2014 at 5:36 PM

Key West Reader on March 18, 2014 at 4:48 PM

KWR, my condolences to you and family on your loss.

Indeed on all in the narrative.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Lub ya Schad

Key West Reader on March 18, 2014 at 5:48 PM

Lub ya back, KWR. You’re one of my favs here.

Stay strong. You’re already strong to keep it to yourself, for so long.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2014 at 5:52 PM

It’s OK. He probably got cancer because of Romney anyway. /

mikhail1973 on March 18, 2014 at 6:01 PM

This is a good example of why premiums will be going up under Obamacare for healthy people. Or why the private insurers will go broke.

kcewa on March 18, 2014 at 3:29 PM

No worries, this is a “risk corridor” case; private insurers won’t go broke, we’ve promised to cover their losses in all these cases out of taxpayer funds.

Oh… you still look worried? Why?

I just said we’d pay for it with the magical money that never runs out and can be used to pay for everything the liberal heart desires.

Hunh, now you look MORE worried. It’s like you don’t understand what I’m saying. Maybe if Obama explained it again you’d get it.

/sarc

gekkobear on March 18, 2014 at 6:08 PM

People get sick and die. People get healthcare and still get sick and die. This is a fact. Medical care is not a sure thing and never will be. However, the democrats have attempted to make people believe that if they are voted into office then people will not get sick and die.

People are stupid enough to believe it and have voted these liars into office. Now they are wondering when they will get healthcare that is supposed to keep them from getting sick and dying.

Surprise!!!

jya lai on March 18, 2014 at 6:39 PM

Key West Reader on March 18, 2014 at 5:23 PM

I am at a loss of words. I had no idea that you were facing such tragedy this year. You have my sympathy and prayers as you continue to cope with the loss and your righteous anger (that you are entitled to have.)

jazzuscounty on March 18, 2014 at 6:43 PM

Our Pastor is in a much similar circumstance for those asking. But Pastor Underwood had a heart attack. Same deal though.

hawkdriver on March 18, 2014 at 8:17 PM

Key West Reader on March 18, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Heavy heart here also KWR. You know we love you.

hawkdriver on March 18, 2014 at 8:18 PM

Key West Reader on March 18, 2014 at 4:48 PM

KWR, my deepest condolences and prayers for you and your family!

Newtie and the Beauty on March 18, 2014 at 11:31 PM

Key West Reader on March 18, 2014

…I just caught the specifics on another thread…prayers for you!…you are one of my favorites…and you’ve been through so much already!…Love you KWR!
{{{hugs}}}

KOOLAID2 on March 18, 2014 at 11:57 PM

KWR, my sincere condolences to you and your family. Will keep you and your in prayer.

That someone would be denied antibiotics is unconscionable!

Angineer on March 19, 2014 at 11:38 AM