ABC: Democrats privately admit ObamaCare is “political poison”

posted at 2:41 pm on March 17, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

ABC’S Jeff Zeleny reported the obvious yesterday, on the rare day that the Sunday talk-head shows focused more on overseas stories than on domestic politics. Democrats have begun to worry that ObamaCare — and Barack Obama — have become political poison in the upcoming midterms:

ZELENY: How big of a political weight is the health care law on Democrats?

PELOSI: I think that the Republicans are wasting their time, using that as their electoral issue. And they will find that out.

ZELENY: So the Democrats shouldn’t shy away from it?

PELOSI: No. Absolutely not.

ZELENY (voice-over): But privately several Democrats tell ABC News they’re increasingly worried the health care law is political poison.

Their worries may be well founded, with polls showing the president and his top achievement are still highly unpopular.

The White House sent Dan Pfeiffer to NBC’s Meet the Press, the only show to lead with domestic politics in the midst of the Ukraine crisis and the mystery of Flight 370. Guy already wrote about the senior White House adviser’s assertion that Obama himself will be an asset in the midterms, but he was just as unbelievable about ObamaCare, too. Pfeiffer told Gregory that Obama’s “keep your plan” lie wasn’t really the President’s fault …. it was the fault of insurance companies because, er, they followed the law. In this White House, that’s apparently a novelty. Jen Rubin can’t believe the chutzpah, or Gregory’s lack of gumption in challenging Pfeiffer:

Pfeiffer also asserted on Meet the Press that the loss of doctors — because patients are shuffled into plans with less generous choices of doctors and hospitals — wasn’t the president’s problem. (“Insurance companies make decisions about what doctor is in your network. That was true before Obamacare. That’s true after Obamacare. There’s nothing in Obamacare that’s going to cause — mandates an insurance company make any change around doctors. That’s a decision for insurance companies because Obamacare is built on the private insurance system.”) A more aggressive host would have asked why it was then that the president and all those senators promised Americans they could keep their doctors.

Gregory asked Pfeiffer whether Democratic control of the Senate was in danger, but his former colleague Robert Gibbs all but called him a liar:

NBC host David Gregory asked, “Is the Senate in danger?”

“Definitely,” said Gibbs. “Absolutely.”

“How come Dan Pfeiffer didn’t say it?” asked Gregory, referring to Pfeiffer’s appearance on the show earlier in broadcast.

“I did the same thing a few years ago on your show and I still have tire tracks from Nancy Pelosi for saying what I thought. Honesty–you can only go so far in Washington when you’re employed. As a consultant I can say all these things now,” said Gibbs.

Pfeiffer also tried spinning Obama’s low approval numbers as part of the government shutdown:

Er … what? Obama’s numbers went up during the shutdown. They crashed after it was over as the extent of the incompetence and lies of ObamaCare became obvious in the weeks afterward — and as David Gregory points out, those ratings continue to fall among Democrats while the GOP numbers have normalized.

It’s one thing to offer spin. It’s another entirely to offer a blizzard of obviously-false drivel. If this is the quality of support Democrats can expect in the midterms, then this is what they should be telling themselves ….


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Publicly, however, they’ll keep on lying to your face and insulting your intelligence.

Good Lt on March 17, 2014 at 2:43 PM

Someone needs to tell Robert Shrum this news…

OmahaConservative on March 17, 2014 at 2:43 PM

This is what you wanted, right Dems?

thebrokenrattle on March 17, 2014 at 2:45 PM

Animaniacs! Love them.

bluegill on March 17, 2014 at 2:46 PM

It’s one thing to offer spin. It’s another entirely to offer a blizzard of obviously-false drivel. If this is the quality of support Democrats can expect in the midterms, then this is what they should be telling themselves ….

I haven’t noticed any of the usual lefties driveling here in the comments today. I’m guessing they can’t think of what to say. But I’m sure they’ll get their marching orders at some point.

Fenris on March 17, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Obamacare is only one symptom of a much larger problem, which is a congress infested with liberal Democrats.

rplat on March 17, 2014 at 2:47 PM

…chug it!…you basturds!

KOOLAID2 on March 17, 2014 at 2:48 PM

They were arrogant,knew what was best for people,shut out the other side,and thought they were giving everyone a present with a late night vote on Christmas Eve.They took one beating over their vote would another surprise them when the country told the Bah Humbug.

docflash on March 17, 2014 at 2:52 PM

THIS GUY’S LIKE A BAD BATCH OF HEROIN.

ToddPA on March 17, 2014 at 2:52 PM

Obamacare is only one symptom of a much larger problem, which is a congress infested with liberal Democrats career politicians.
rplat on March 17, 2014 at 2:47 PM

FIFY

nico on March 17, 2014 at 2:53 PM

If 2014 resembles anything like 2010 (and I think it wil be worse), any Dem associated with this admin may as well skip 2016, unless they are for a full repeal abd replace of obamacare.

ConservativePartyNow on March 17, 2014 at 2:56 PM

I never underestimate the ability for the MSM to change the narrative. They’ve already proven a willingness to lie and obfuscate for this administration so why should I believe things will be different this time? About the only difference is the Democrats have really stepped in it this time. Before, they would do things that only affected a small part of the population, this time they’ve affected the whole country and they did it all on their own, so there’s no place to hide.

The MSM has lost a lot of credibility so the question remains, how much more are they willing to sacrifice for Obama and the Democrats?

bflat879 on March 17, 2014 at 2:56 PM

DEM’s voted for it.

OWN IT FUGGERS!!!!!!!

No way to hang this around any one’s neck but duh “O” and monica lewinsky’s boyfriends WIFE, the MUTHA of “O” Care.

as they say, she birthed it.

RealMc on March 17, 2014 at 2:56 PM

LOL.

vityas on March 17, 2014 at 2:57 PM

SOCIALISM is poison. We don’t want it.

Charlemagne on March 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM

LOL, they had no idea how prophetic that whole job lock argument would turn out to be.

antipc on March 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM

‘Well, the big difference here and in ’94 was you’ve got me.’

– President Barack Obama, January 2010, March 2014

‘Toons of the Day: WTF, One SCoaMF At A Time

Resist We Much on March 17, 2014 at 3:01 PM

It’s one thing to offer spin. It’s another entirely to offer a blizzard of obviously-false drivel. If this is the quality of support Democrats can expect in the midterms, then this is what they should be telling themselves

…….kiss your a$s goodbye!

KOOLAID2 on March 17, 2014 at 3:01 PM

It’s one thing to offer spin. It’s another entirely to offer a blizzard of obviously-false drivel.

An it doesn’t matter one iota if the MSM doesn’t challenge their lies. The run of the mill LIV will say, “See, it isn’t the Prezzie’s fault! It’s the [insert fake villan of the day] fault!”

BacaDog on March 17, 2014 at 3:05 PM

Why is it that when I see a pix of Pfeiffer I think I’m looking at a young H. R. Haldeman?

Another Drew on March 17, 2014 at 3:06 PM

Met someone recently, just diagnosed with Colon Cancer and needs surgery. Did not have insurance, thanks to Obamacare he was able to sign up and save him self a fortune on the care he needs.

Which is also an example of why Obamacare without the Mandate will totally collapse the Insurance industry

jp on March 17, 2014 at 3:07 PM

The MSM has lost a lot of credibility so the question remains, how much more are they willing to sacrifice for Obama and the Democrats?

bflat879 on March 17, 2014 at 2:56 PM

They’re all in, baby. They’re all in.

BacaDog on March 17, 2014 at 3:07 PM

bflat879 on March 17, 2014 at 2:56 PM

They’ve followed Teh Won so far down that rabbit-hole already, that they’ve go to go “all in”, there is no alternative in their minds.

Another Drew on March 17, 2014 at 3:08 PM

OT: I am so fed up hearing all this speculation about that damned 777…

OmahaConservative on March 17, 2014 at 3:08 PM

It’s one thing to offer spin. It’s another entirely to offer a blizzard of obviously-false drivel.

barky and his gang have been doing this for more than 6 years, now, since way back in the 2008 campaign. These bald-faced, intellectually offensive lies are nothing new. They are SOP for this gaggle of retards and have been for a very long time (it seems like lifetimes, already).

And they’ve gotten away with them, too, even to the point that Barky got re-elected after having been the most unbelievable, pathetic, stupid loser of a failure ever in history.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 17, 2014 at 3:09 PM

Troll free thread day so far.

22044 on March 17, 2014 at 3:10 PM

Obamacare is only one symptom of a much larger problem, which is a congress infested with liberal Democrats.

rplat on March 17, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Obamacare is only one symptom of a much larger problem, which is a congress infested with liberal Democrats. communists.

redguy on March 17, 2014 at 3:10 PM

Gibbs is apparently not as stupid as he looks. He can see the writing on the wall. Pelozilla, on the other hand, is deranged, shielded by her yes-men and divorced from reality, like Norma Desmond minus the erstwhile glamor and greatness. Just a depraved nincompoop who thinks that wishcasting and the osmosis of leftist ideas will solve every conceivable problem.

MisterElephant on March 17, 2014 at 3:10 PM

OT: I am so fed up hearing all this speculation about that damned 777…

OmahaConservative on March 17, 2014 at 3:08 PM

Yeah, what do you think happened???

redguy on March 17, 2014 at 3:11 PM

redguy on March 17, 2014 at 3:11 PM

Hardest laugh of the day for me.

docflash on March 17, 2014 at 3:17 PM

But we had to pass it to find out what was in it. And guess what? We did. We found out good and hard.

rrpjr on March 17, 2014 at 3:18 PM

Gregory should change his name to Dem. he shamelessly let this idiot spin away with ridiculous lies.

neyney on March 17, 2014 at 3:19 PM

Honesty–you can only go so far in Washington when you’re employed. As a consultant I can say all these things now,” said Gibbs.

Isn’t that interesting?! You can’t tell the people the truth when you are working for the people. Only after you leave. This is like Alice in Wonderland logic.

jeanneb on March 17, 2014 at 3:22 PM

Also in “the game is up” category:

Senate Balks at Obama Pick for Surgeon General

WASHINGTON — Facing a possible defeat in the Senate, the White House is considering delaying a vote on President Obama’s choice for surgeon general or withdrawing the nomination altogether…

Senate aides said Friday that as many as 10 Democrats are believed to be considering a vote against Dr. Murthy, who has voiced support for various gun control measures like an assault weapons ban, mandatory safety training and ammunition sales limits.

kcewa on March 17, 2014 at 3:23 PM

OmahaConservative on March 17, 2014 at 2:43 PM

Um no, don’t.

bluegill on March 17, 2014 at 2:46 PM

figures…

cozmo on March 17, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Gibbs is apparently not as stupid as he looks. He can see the writing on the wall. Pelozilla, on the other hand, is deranged, shielded by her yes-men and divorced from reality, like Norma Desmond minus the erstwhile glamor and greatness.
MisterElephant on March 17, 2014 at 3:10 PM

Gibbs is no longer paid to lie. What’s Nancy going to say – “yeah, we really screwed the pooch with the ACA and deserve to get creamed”? I mean, she should say that, but she cannot be honest as a condition of being a Democrat. Even if they get slaughtered in November she’ll say it was because we’ve demagogued the law and stopped it from proper implementation.

crrr6 on March 17, 2014 at 3:26 PM

Fenris on March 17, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Though their absence is refreshing.

cozmo on March 17, 2014 at 3:27 PM

OT: I am so fed up hearing all this speculation about that damned 777…

OmahaConservative on March 17, 2014 at 3:08 PM

Yeah, what do you think happened???

redguy on March 17, 2014 at 3:11 PM

I have no idea, just like all the stupid talking heads hammering this topic…

OmahaConservative on March 17, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Did not have insurance, thanks to Obamacare he was able to sign up and save him self a fortune on the care he needs.

jp on March 17, 2014 at 3:07 PM

Thanks to Obamacare he’s going to save money? That’s a blatant lie. Obamacare doesn’t pay a dime for anything. All those government subsidies are being paid for by working people who, after responsibly paying for their own insurance, now pay for everyone who has not been responsible and provided themselves with insurance. Thanks Obamacare? Try thanking the working class. Your friend capitalizes off the sweat of hard working Americans.

HotAirian on March 17, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Animaniacs! Love them.

bluegill on March 17, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Saw this clip for the first time last week, when I was looking for the Geena Davis clip. I like this one better.

Ed Morrissey on March 17, 2014 at 3:30 PM

OT:
Ed, I understand Hot Gas has to make a profit, but could you please relegate maybe just one page on the site to autostart video ads? I’m trying to read an article, and all of a sudden some dopey fat lady who lost 100 pounds is breaking my concentration. One of these ads all but ruined my reading of the Sunday Reflection. You can tell your autostart advertisers that this Hot Gassian will make it a point to never buy any one of their products if this nonsense is continued.

Ok, back to your regularly scheduled program

NOMOBO on March 17, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Administration proposal pushes for fewer health plan cancellations

Panic sets in:

An Obama administration proposed rule released late Friday would sharply limit health plan cancellations, just several months after a wave of canceled policies led to a political firestorm that put the White House on its heels. Under the rule, insurers would have broader latitude to adjust the benefits and limits in their policies without considering them canceled and replaced by new products.

Other administration proposals released Friday:

-Insurers would be required to provide a broader network of doctors and health care providers for consumers. CMS will examine whether plans offer “reasonable access” to hospital systems, mental health services, oncology providers and primary care

-The Obama administration would be able to identify state laws that conflict with Obamacare’s efforts to set up navigator programs in each state.

-Insurers would get a break in calculating their administrative costs to determine whether they owe customers a rebate. The law requires that insurers spend 80 percent of premium dollars on medical care, but the administration intends to “raise the ceiling.”

kcewa on March 17, 2014 at 3:34 PM

Saw this clip for the first time last week, when I was looking for the Geena Davis clip. I like this one better.

Ed Morrissey on March 17, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Wher are the links???

OmahaConservative on March 17, 2014 at 3:34 PM

“As a consultant I can say all these things now,” said Gibbs.”

So that means you were given carte-blanche to LIE to the American People while working for this Administration?

FOLLOW-UP QUESTION PLEASE!!

When exactly are these stooges gonna get it through their dense craniums that they work for us?

Pelosi Schmelosi on March 17, 2014 at 3:38 PM

You will never lose a nickel betting against what Nanzi says.

They passed Obama-democrat Care and found out that it will take the congress away from the donks. Get harry Reid (the pederast?) out and then Obama has to veto common sense bills and that kills the 2016 presidency for the progressive fascists.

jukin3 on March 17, 2014 at 3:42 PM

Eat your turdburger, Dem’s. You passed it and now you can find out what is in it. Like a stool sample.

Go to h*ll all of you and take the RINO’s with you. We are fed up.

Key West Reader on March 17, 2014 at 3:44 PM

I’m guessing there will be a partial dismantling of Obamacare before the November elections.

oldennis on March 17, 2014 at 3:47 PM

Hoping and praying that Democrats listen to Nanners Pelosi and Debbie Wideload Schultz, rather than Gibby on this one.
Because mass extinction at the polls, come November.

You go, Democrats. Keep explaining how you know what we need, better than we do.

orangemtl on March 17, 2014 at 3:53 PM

One time I agree with Pelosi, I encourage all of the democrats to run on ObamaCare, make it their center piece of political discussion.

Stay strong, support ObamaCare, be relentless in your defense.

Do not disappoint Obama or Pelosi…

Thank you Nancy, I expect you to go out and force that issue with all the candidates…they depend on you, America depends on you.

This is not a time for feint of heart!

right2bright on March 17, 2014 at 3:56 PM

As improbable as it is, I want the whuppin’ republicans got in 2006 seem like a mild rebuke when compared to what could happen this year.

cozmo on March 17, 2014 at 3:56 PM

-Insurers would be required to provide a broader network of doctors and health care providers for consumers. CMS will examine whether plans offer “reasonable access” to hospital systems, mental health services, oncology providers and primary care

Guess what, Dems? You don’t get to make medical specialists opt into your execrable system. I am one. And I will have nothing to do with it.
Explain that to your angry constituents at your next community meeting. Suggest you wear something that goes with tar and feathers.

orangemtl on March 17, 2014 at 3:56 PM

orangemtl on March 17, 2014 at 3:53 PM

Hey, get out of my head…it hurrrtttzzzz!!

right2bright on March 17, 2014 at 3:56 PM

The democrats and Obama just need to run this video with the words:
“Vote for democrats if you like this video”……

It’s all they will have left.

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhq657Y1ux93ozZ4mU

redguy on March 17, 2014 at 3:57 PM

Gibbs is no longer paid to lie. What’s Nancy going to say – “yeah, we really screwed the pooch with the ACA and deserve to get creamed”? I mean, she should say that, but she cannot be honest as a condition of being a Democrat.

crrr6 on March 17, 2014 at 3:26 PM

I guess one’s view is going to depend on what one thinks of Pelozilla as a “person.” Every single time she’s on one of these clips, she act like a drunk, speaking incoherently, slurring her words. She strikes me, all in all, as a stupid, power-mad, sheltered, eccentric rich woman (and there are a number of those types in my neck of the woods, so I’ve see it before).

Does she lie? You bet. She’ll ruthlessly push her agenda to the end. But I think it’s because she’s basically dopy enough to believe in its nonsensical premises. She’s too delusional to look at the matter objectively.

MisterElephant on March 17, 2014 at 3:58 PM

But these Obamacare posts are about whistling past the graveyard, by next Novemeber Democrats will be openly running on the ACA. Mark my words.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Chuck Schick on March 17, 2014 at 3:59 PM

But these Obamacare posts are about whistling past the graveyard, by next Novemeber Democrats will be openly running on the ACA. Mark my words.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

heh, you they will be running on how they “stood up to Obama” and repealed ObamaCare….

Obama will have the repeal bill on his desk for 2 years while the country goes tits up…….
…..along with the democratic party…..

redguy on March 17, 2014 at 4:08 PM

But these Obamacare posts are about whistling past the graveyard, by next Novemeber Democrats will be openly running on the ACA. Mark my words.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Chuck Schick on March 17, 2014 at 3:59 PM

…in case anyone is wondering why Libby will no longer show his face at HA.

slickwillie2001 on March 17, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Publicly, however, they’ll keep on lying to your face and insulting your intelligence.

Good Lt on March 17, 2014 at 2:43 PM

Man, I really am going to take some pleasure in kicking the shiite out of the Dems this November…

JohnGalt23 on March 17, 2014 at 4:14 PM

I never underestimate the ability for the MSM to change the narrative. They’ve already proven a willingness to lie and obfuscate for this administration so why should I believe things will be different this time? About the only difference is the Democrats have really stepped in it this time. Before, they would do things that only affected a small part of the population, this time they’ve affected the whole country and they did it all on their own, so there’s no place to hide.

The Democrats will trot out Harry Reid to all the MSM outlets and tell them not to listen to the cancer patients who lost their health insurance–they’re just a bunch of lying liars trying to become famous on Fox News.

Will the low-information voters actually believe this, and all the Pollyanna stories about those millions of people with pre-existing conditions who received government-subsidized health insurance, or will they listen to their neighbors who lost their insurance?

Steve Z on March 17, 2014 at 4:18 PM

OT: I am so fed up hearing all this speculation about that damned 777…

OmahaConservative on March 17, 2014 at 3:08 PM

Here are some happy thoughts to consider regarding a different plot:

Obama and The Democrats Plot To Control America

climbnjump on March 17, 2014 at 4:18 PM

I haven’t noticed any of the usual lefties driveling here in the comments today. I’m guessing they can’t think of what to say. But I’m sure they’ll get their marching orders at some point.

Fenris on March 17, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Troll free thread day so far.

22044 on March 17, 2014 at 3:10 PM

There have been a few on the Ukraine thread. Including the reincarnation of getalife.

Del Dolemonte on March 17, 2014 at 4:19 PM

You will never lose a nickel betting against what Nanzi says.

Maybe the Democrats will listen to her and “embrace the suck”.

Steve Z on March 17, 2014 at 4:20 PM

Man, I really am going to take some pleasure in kicking the shiite out of the Dems this November…

JohnGalt23 on March 17, 2014 at 4:14 PM

Sure, that will feel good for a while, but then what? Do you really think the Repubs – who can’t even fight their way out of a wet paper bag – are going to turn the country around?

You know that Obama/Putin drama currently in play? The (painfully) funny irony is that Putin is handling Obama in the same way that the Dems are handling the Repubs in the long run. Just read the article at the link I posted a bit earlier.

climbnjump on March 17, 2014 at 4:27 PM

It’s all academic at this point. The press covered for this massively destructive law from the beginning. It got passed, by hook ad crook.

The press covered for this massively destructive president. He got reelected.

I’ll vote Republican in November n the midterms, but I don’t expect anything good out of them.

Game over.

astronmr20 on March 17, 2014 at 4:39 PM

I haven’t noticed any of the usual lefties driveling here in the comments today. I’m guessing they can’t think of what to say. But I’m sure they’ll get their marching orders at some point.

Fenris on March 17, 2014 at 2:47 PM

Middle of the month, so SNAP cards were loaded on Saturday. They are probably still hung over.

slickwillie2001 on March 17, 2014 at 4:42 PM

Please read totally before you create an opinion of this post.

I basically agree w/ the Democrats who are saying the GOP should not run on Obamacare alone.

It is truly the prescription for success.

Many who want to campaign on the very juicy fatal flaw w/ the Dems only want to continually beat them on the head w/ this horrible law.

They see this as a disease.

I see it as a symptom, just like the squits are a symptom of a greater problem. By only focusing on that symptom, we are neglecting the disease of left wing loonieism. The major symptom of this loonieism is Obamace. But like any other disease, there are so many more symptoms of this disease that was voted into office in 2006 and 2008. And left untreated, the actual disease will cause continual damage to its host.

So, in reality, the disease of left wing loonieism needs to be displayed to the people as exactly what it is, and if it is not remedied quickly, we’ll have some other symptom that very well could be fatal to our way of life.

gonnjos on March 17, 2014 at 5:01 PM

Obamacare is now officially the Windows 8 of government programs.

Obama is issuing Windows 8.1 by Executive Order

J_Crater on March 17, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Honesty–you can only go so far in Washington when you’re employed. As a consultant I can say all these things now,” said Gibbs.

Isn’t that interesting?! You can’t tell the people the truth when you are working for the people. Only after you leave. This is like Alice in Wonderland logic.

jeanneb on March 17, 2014 at 3:22 PM

Worse than living in Wonderland, it’s more like Welcome to BOzarroWorld. Wonderland, in a way, had some sense to it. BOzarroWorld makes no sense anymore, not even a smidgeon of it.

CPRforAmerica on March 17, 2014 at 5:13 PM

Memo to Dems:

Embrace The Suck, you POS.

307wolverine on March 17, 2014 at 5:40 PM

Any rational person deeply resents something that makes their life more complicated, more expensive and has no perceived benefit – or worse – is a detriment to them.

Add to that the simple fact that nobody asked for this!

You can’t spin the experience a person has when they sit down after getting their paycheck and trying to figure out what bills to pay and realizing Obama and his toadies have laid a big, fat pile of crap on their finance, hopes and plans.

kurtzz3 on March 17, 2014 at 5:42 PM

There is a different “reality” in ObamalamaLand.

GarandFan on March 17, 2014 at 10:11 PM