Exit polls show Crimea annexation wins 93% of vote while under Russian occupation

posted at 3:31 pm on March 16, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

Big surprise, eh? No one took this seriously before it took place, and no one will take it seriously after the votes are counted. No one, that is, except for the occupying power in Crimea that forced the referendum in the first place. Russia and its new puppet regional government on the peninsula are reported record turnout and a 93% vote for annexation to its former sovereign, while the US and West denounced the entire exercise as just a pretense for a land grab:

Supporters of Crimea’s attempt to secede from Ukraine and join Russia have flocked to vote in a referendum denounced by Kiev and Western powers.

Polls closed at 18:00 GMT and officials hailed a “record” turnout. Preliminary results were expected within hours.

A vast majority of voters interviewed by journalists backed secession. Many opponents boycotted the vote.

The White House has officially rejected the results and the referendum itself, saying it occurred under duress:

The White House says Sunday’s referendum on secession is contrary to Ukraine’s constitution.

The U.S. says the world won’t recognize the results of a vote held under what it says are “threats of violence and intimidation from a Russian military intervention that violates international law.”

A written statement from the White House calls Russia’s actions in Ukraine “dangerous and destabilizing.”

The U.S. is urging other nations to “take concrete steps to impose costs” against Russia.

Secession was expected to be approved overwhelmingly.

John McCain uses a better word than referendum, one which I have used purposefully all along:

“Look, it is a bogus thing. We used to call it plebiscite in the days of Hitler and Stalin. It is a done deal,” he said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

McCain and the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine have a running bet on how lopsided the vote will be. McCain thinks the referendum will be approved with 70 percent of the vote. …

“The United States of America, first of all, has to have a fundamental re-assessment of our relationship with Vladimir Putin. No more reset buttons, no more tell Vladimir I’ll be more flexible,” he said.

He’s right, but it’s too late for that now. Putin has already taken his measure of the West. Expect the annexation to happen immediately — and then wait for the inevitable repeat in eastern Ukraine, too.

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Isn’t that exactly how we annexed Texas from Mexico?

OliverB on March 16, 2014 at 7:53 PM

Good God man, read a history book, get a clue.

slickwillie2001 on March 16, 2014 at 8:23 PM

Let’s see Mrxico had an open immigration policy. A lot of the settlers were illegal immigrants entering Texas and squatting. The fought for indepence and won- America annexed them based off of having an army capable that could defend the Texas Mexican border.
so yeah, maybe you should try reading a book sometimes

OliverB on March 16, 2014 at 8:36 PM

I see you read some history between your first post and your second. Good for you.

slickwillie2001 on March 16, 2014 at 9:01 PM

I see you read some history between your first post and your second. Good for you.

slickwillie2001 on March 16, 2014 at 9:01 PM

Ha- you don’t even KNOW! I hold multiple degrees in “The Politics of Hip Hop”…..

OliverB on March 16, 2014 at 9:10 PM

If Europe had any balz it would invade and restore Königsberg to Europe.

Tripwhipper on March 16, 2014 at 9:11 PM

Obama’s Former Foreign Policy Adviser Said – In 1997 – that the U.S. Had to Gain Control of Ukraine

In 1997, Obama’s former foreign affairs adviser, and president Jimmy Carter’s national security adviser – Zbigniew Brzezinski – wrote a book called The Grand Chessboard arguing arguing that the U.S. had to take control of Ukraine (as well as Azerbaijan, South Korea, Turkey and Iran) because they were “critically important geopolitical pivots”.

Late last year when Ukraine’s now-ousted president Viktor Yanukovych surprisingly canceled plans for Ukrainian integration into the European Union in favor of stronger ties with Russia, the US may have viewed Ukraine as slipping even further out of its reach.

At that point, with the pieces already in place, the US moved to support the ousting of Yanukovych, as evidenced by the leaked phone conversation between US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland [arch-Neocon Robert Kagan's wife] and US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt. When peaceful protests were not effective in unseating Yanukovych, the violence of the ultra-nationalist Svoboda party and Right Sector was embraced, if not supported by the west.

In today’s Ukraine, the US runs the risk of being affiliated with anti-Semitic neo-Nazis, a prospect it probably feels can be controlled via a friendly western media. But even if the risk is high, the US likely views it as necessary given the geopolitical importance of Ukraine, as Brzezinski mapped out in 1997.

VorDaj on March 16, 2014 at 9:13 PM

Hotair links The New York Times, HuffandPuff, Andrew Sullivan is currently up.

But somehow Russian sources are propaganda while those are acceptable.

[sharrukin on March 16, 2014 at 8:54 PM]

Apologies for interrupting but …. LOL. That was as nice one.

Dusty on March 16, 2014 at 9:54 PM

And this win for Putin means……….?

Athos on March 16, 2014 at 9:55 PM

And this win for Putin means……….?

Athos on March 16, 2014 at 9:55 PM

…that when Vladimir Putin says he is going to take something, the rest of the world has cause to believe him.

As opposed to when the Liar-in-Chief says he will protect something, in which case the rest of the world has a good laugh…

JohnGalt23 on March 16, 2014 at 10:06 PM

No one, that is, except for the occupying power in Crimea that forced the referendum in the first place.

Another except for is all the no ones that voted against the referendum.

They’ll probably disappear overnight.

rukiddingme on March 16, 2014 at 10:09 PM

McCain cares a lot more than I do. I wish that guy would stop chasing the ghosts of his past.

cimbri on March 16, 2014 at 10:24 PM

Russian Billionaire buys some influence in the west.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-16/rwe-agrees-to-sell-7-1-billion-dea-division-to-letterone-group.html

L1 Energy, the investment vehicle of Russia’s fourth-richest man Mikhail Fridman, agreed to buy RWE AG (RWE)’s Dea oil and gas unit, gaining assets in the U.K., Germany and the North Sea.

The sale values Dea at about 5.1 billion euros ($7.1 billion), including debt, Germany’s largest power generator, said in a statement yesterday. The deal is the first for LetterOne, the group set up by Fridman and co-investor German Khan last year to invest part of $14 billion they gained from selling a stake in the Moscow-based TNK-BP oil venture.

sharrukin on March 16, 2014 at 10:28 PM

So are we at war yet?

They shot our drone. Are we at war?

crap. We can’t fight a war with this idiot in the whitehouse.

Everything good about America is gone.

I wish Romney was President.

petunia on March 16, 2014 at 10:36 PM

So, this vote shouldn’t count, but the Muslim Brotherhood is the legitimate government of Egypt.

claudius on March 16, 2014 at 11:09 PM

I wish Romney was President.

petunia on March 16, 2014 at 10:36 PM

Some people preferred Obama because Romney wasn’t conservative enough.

cimbri on March 16, 2014 at 11:17 PM

I wish Romney was President.

petunia on March 16, 2014 at 10:36 PM

too bad mitt didn’t feel about it as strongly as you do.

renalin on March 16, 2014 at 11:32 PM

OliverB on March 16, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Jeantel is calling you.

Schadenfreude on March 16, 2014 at 11:49 PM

The White House says Sunday’s referendum on secession is contrary to Ukraine’s constitution.

The U.S. says the world won’t recognize the results of a vote held under what it says are “threats of violence and intimidation from a Russian military intervention that violates international law.”

Must be some cognitive dissonance when the Foreign Policy line says this, but the domestic policy refuses to take the same position about union plebiscites.
Can you imagine the NLRB saying this anytime?

The U.S. says the government won’t recognize the results of an organizing vote held under what it says are “threats of violence and intimidation from a Union intervention that violates Constitutional law.”

AesopFan on March 17, 2014 at 12:58 AM

Some people preferred Obama because Romney wasn’t conservative enough.

cimbri on March 16, 2014 at 11:17 PM

Yes, they are loathsome idiots.

V7_Sport on March 17, 2014 at 1:35 AM

Who exactly is arguing for tyranny here?

sharrukin on March 16, 2014 at 8:21 PM

You have been an apologist for it, a tireless apologist for it since Russian tanks invaded the sovereignty off the Ukraine, resorting to posting the crudest, ham handed propaganda that even the Soviets think was over the top.
I’m remembering the cr@p you threw at the previous republican nominee for president, congratulations, you and Putin seen to be getting your way in terms of a weak USA that stands for nothing.

V7_Sport on March 17, 2014 at 1:49 AM

Who exactly is arguing for tyranny here?

The folks who are swallowing Putin’s propaganda whole:

At that point, with the pieces already in place, the US moved to support the ousting of Yanukovych, as evidenced by the leaked phone conversation between US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland [arch-Neocon Robert Kagan's wife] and US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt. When peaceful protests were not effective in unseating Yanukovych, the violence of the ultra-nationalist Svoboda party and Right Sector was embraced, if not supported by the west.

In today’s Ukraine, the US runs the risk of being affiliated with anti-Semitic neo-Nazis, a prospect it probably feels can be controlled via a friendly western media. But even if the risk is high, the US likely views it as necessary given the geopolitical importance of Ukraine, as Brzezinski mapped out in 1997.

Utter B.S. Putin played up the role of these minor players, so that now many if not most Russians and Crimeans (and you) believe that it’s true, in spite of plentiful evidence to the contrary. I recently spent time in Ukraine and Poland, and felt perfectly safe s someone who’s fairly obviously Jewish, even in the Maidan. The people who make me uneasy are the Russians, who believe things like folks getting shot in the streets of Kiev for speaking Russian (which is about as ridiculous as folks getting shot in the streets of Montreal for speaking English). In Poland, people are having another look at that 2010 plane crash that killed the Polish president and high officials on Russian soil, occurring as it did after Poland’s support for Georgia. They’re not worried about eastern Ukraine being next; they’re worried about the Baltics and themselves. After all, if Putin has the right to invade anywhere he doesn’t like that has a Russian majority, there are many parts of the world which wouldn’t be safe (including, theoretically, parts of the U.S.).

There’s an old joke about plebiscites, which generally get 90+% approval. The person in charge is unhappy with the result, and his adviser tells him, “Only a tiny minority voted against you. What more could you want?” The reply? “Their names.”

calbear on March 17, 2014 at 2:04 AM

Vlad to Crimea: Do you vote ‘yes’ or ‘yes’?

Brock Robamney on March 17, 2014 at 5:51 AM

calbear on March 17, 2014 at 2:04 AM

The Ukraine has only 17% of its population being Russian

Brock Robamney on March 17, 2014 at 5:53 AM

Everything The President touches seems to be broken; Our credit rating, Obamacare, the Arab spring (al qaeda bounce), Benghazi, the Reset Button … Hillary.

kregg on March 17, 2014 at 6:05 AM

Now if only Ukraine will give back the territories they stole in 1939 together with the Russians and their German friends (their share – Western Poland and Romanian Bassarabia and Northern Bukovina), apologize for the genocide they did there together with the Russians, killing and deporting millions, both before Nazi invasion and after “liberation”, then and only then they can be called a country.

But of course not only liberal msm but also so called “conservatives” – they know and weep about the fate of some Crimean Tatars who only business for centuries was to abduct people (including Ukrainians) and sell them to slavery.

Not that I expect less from US citizens. After all, all you could put against Hussein 0bama was McCain and Romney.

You pile up on a guy who showed you that Crimea was not to belong to Ukraine in the first place, it was carved by Khrushchev in 1954 and annexed to Ukraine exactly as he did with some territories subjected on Molotov-Ribbentrop pact 15 years earlier. Stalin was in power, but Khrushchev the Ukrainian was there in the deciding commission.

Nations had referendums in 1918 right after the fall of Tzarist Russia. Did you learn about that in school? No of course, in fact except your US history you are pretty much oblivious yet you meddle, exactly like Russians.

Between the corporatist rainbow degenerate society with muzzie whiffs imposed by the West and the iron boot coming from the East, I want another choice.

Rookie on March 17, 2014 at 7:14 AM

Everything in this country is collapsing around our ankles . . . will the Obama loving freaks ever realize what they have done?

rplat on March 17, 2014 at 8:22 AM

McCain is all talk. He knows there is nothing the United States can do to prevent Russia from taking all of Ukraine if Putin wants because we have no leverage whatsoever…and, most importantly,, Putin knows it.

- Crimea is gone.
- Eastern Ukraine, the industrial region, is next.
- The U.S, has no forces in position to challenge the move.
- Military cuts have weakened the U.S. military.
- We could threaten to provide Europe with energy, but Putin knows Obama won’t do it.
– Obama is waging his own private war against Coal, Natural Gas, and oil, so he is very enlikely to embrace it now, even though it is the biggest, most strategic ‘card’ that would give us any leverage against Putin.

The NEXT BIG EVENT for the Obama administration is TODAY!
- Obama made the mistake of declaring a ‘Red Line’ for Syria – when he backed off of it he exposed himself and the U.S. under him to be weak!
- Kerry declared Friday that today – Monday – is yet another ‘Red Line’ for Putin to back off. The Obama administration already has a heavily damaged reputation after Syria. The U.S. has been backed into another corner because Kerry, this time, set a Red Line for the entire world to see. If nothing is done NOW, the U.S. under Obama will be exposed as the world’s largest joke, having fallen from it’s lofty perch as a world Super Power to a hollow oragami paper tiger.

easyt65 on March 17, 2014 at 8:24 AM

Sharrukin does happy dance in 5,4,3,2,1…

Walter L. Newton on March 17, 2014 at 9:18 AM

Why do I view the “showdown ” between the competent Vlad and the wannabe Obama as not being a race between the proverbial tortoise and hare as much as a battle between an alpha male dog and a clean-barking female Chihuahua in mom jeans?

Don L on March 17, 2014 at 9:21 AM

Now they say it’s 97%.

3% are shot on location.

Schadenfreude on March 17, 2014 at 11:11 AM

“This is what Democracy looks like”

Which why Obama wants us to be a Democracy…….Mob Rule

Conservative4Ever on March 17, 2014 at 11:35 AM

So are we at war yet? They shot our drone. Are we at war? petunia on March 16, 2014 at 10:36 PM

A Russian state arms and technology group claimed Friday to have downed a U.S. surveillance drone over Ukraine’s Crimea region, Agence France Presse reported. The Pentagon issued a denial to the International Business Times on Saturday, with a spokesman for the Department of Defense saying there was “zero truth” to to claims.

Do you want American kids to die for a drone? Put the pipe down.

Akzed on March 17, 2014 at 1:08 PM

FLASHBACK: February Poll Showed Just 41% of Crimeans Wanted to Join Russia

Resist We Much on March 17, 2014 at 9:46 AM

The Crimea “vote” was complete fraud.

However, it is quite easy to get to 93% when you suddenly have 123% turnout, all in favor of joining Russia in the largest city. Mind you, in this same city, less than 5% of the population bothered to show up for the “Pro-Russian” demonstration held prior to the Russian invasion.

Russia is far worse than even Chicago or Philly when it comes to voter fraud.

Norwegian on March 17, 2014 at 2:01 PM

FLASHBACK: February Poll Showed Just 41% of Crimeans Wanted to Join Russia

Resist We Much on March 17, 2014 at 9:46 AM

The Crimea “vote” was complete fraud.

However, it is quite easy to get to 93% when you suddenly have 123% turnout, all in favor of joining Russia in the largest city. Mind you, in this same city, less than 5% of the population bothered to show up for the “Pro-Russian” demonstration held prior to the Russian invasion.

Russia is far worse than even Chicago or Philly when it comes to voter fraud.

Norwegian on March 17, 2014 at 2:01 PM

I read somewhere that the ballot did not offer a “No” choice. Can anyone clarify?

slickwillie2001 on March 17, 2014 at 2:07 PM

When did Americans get a vote on the Mexican invasion?

The nearest thing I can think of is save Our State in California – and the political elite nullified the popular vote.

David Blue on March 17, 2014 at 9:45 PM

McCain sucks “but” I held my nose and voted for him in 2008. For those who stayed at home or voted for some 3rd party nut-job, hope you are satisfied with what you got. Wouldn’t we be so much better off?

Darvin Dowdy on March 17, 2014 at 11:15 PM

“The people who cast the votes don’t decide an election, the people who count the votes do.”
Joseph Stalin

Uniblogger on March 18, 2014 at 12:25 AM

“The people who cast the votes don’t decide an election, the people who count the votes do.”
Joseph Stalin

Uniblogger on March 18, 2014 at 12:25 AM

In Ukraine, fascist rioters decided the “election” without casting votes or bothering to count them either.

Not that this is America’s problem. America is next door to Mexico, not Ukraine.

David Blue on March 18, 2014 at 1:57 AM

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