Russian FM after meeting with Kerry: Russia has no “common vision” on Crimea with the west

posted at 2:01 pm on March 14, 2014 by Allahpundit

The Crimean referendum on independence is Sunday. Western sanctions are set to take effect Monday. Today’s meeting was the last grasp for a deal before the two sides dig in.

No deal.

“We do not have a common vision of the situation,” Sergei Lavrov told journalists in London through an interpreter, adding that the “dialogue was constructive.”…

Lavrov also told reporters that Russia had no plans to invade southeastern Ukraine.

“The Russian Federation does not and cannot have any plans to invade the southeastern regions of Ukraine,” he said…

Lavrov also said Crimea – which was part of the Soviet Union before the end of communism – was of “immeasurable” value to Russia, and meant more to his country than the Falklands mean to Britain.

Here’s what Lavrov means he says they have no plans for a broader invasion:

Russian troops are now massing in three different border regions to Ukraine’s east. Could be that the Crimea referendum is itself largely a pretext for a broader invasion: If there are any protests or skirmishes in the south or east in response to the vote, which seems highly likely, that’s Putin’s cue to claim that ethnic Russians throughout the rest of Ukraine are in danger and need “rescuing.” In fact, per The Interpreter, Lavrov refused to acknowledge at today’s meeting that Russia has invaded Crimea. They’re still sticking to the transparent fiction that the troops now in control of the province are some sort of mysterious homegrown element that’s keeping the peace lest it explode from ethnic tensions. Can’t wait to find out next week where the 200,000 men in camouflage patrolling eastern Ukraine supposedly came from.

Kerry warned him today that the west won’t recognize the results of the referendum under these circumstances, as if Lavrov cares. On the contrary, Moscow’s focused right now on preparing Russians for confrontation with the west and its sympathizers:

But then came the day a Moscow acquaintance announced on Facebook that her daughter, a first-grader, came home from school in a panic because the teacher had told the class that America was about to invade Russia. But then television host and attack dog Dmitry Kiselev went after the “radicals” in Kiev in a special broadcast dedicated to Ukraine, saying that the transfer of Crime to the Ukrainian Soviet Republic in 1954 was “a historical crime” and blaming the dissolution of Yugoslavia on the West. “What is Yugoslavia now? A pimple on the body of Europe.”…

Yesterday, Ekho Moskvy, the biggest Moscow radio station who had its website blocked yesterday, invited on the air the editor of Den, a strange Moscow paper, said the crackdown on the press was necessary because the West had waged “an information war” against Russia, to which Russia had to present a united front. A family friend wrote from Moscow in shock: His television was telling him the internet is for radicals and perverts, which, to him, was a clear foreshadowing of a great firewall with the West. (Other Moscow friends, all liberals, are beginning to get seriously depressed. One describes a foreboding feeling that a civil war is near, another asked for the number of a good immigration lawyer in the U.S.)…

Here’s what’s scary about this: this is all being done, according to various reports, without any consultation with anyone outside Putin’s shrinking inner circle of old KGB spooks. The economic elites most likely to suffer from a plummeting ruble and sanctions have been shut out of the decision-making process. This is all about intangibles, the things that reason can’t hook, the things impervious to logic and reasoning and even the cynical algebra of geopolitical interests.

So, yeah. To put it mildly, between this and the fact that 69 percent of Americans now see Russia as a threat to the U.S., there is indeed no “common vision.”


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Kerry had a plan. It was a smart plan. Bush had no plan.

Murphy9 on March 14, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Hardly unexpected.

listens2glenn on March 14, 2014 at 2:04 PM

Did they give him a hat..?

d1carter on March 14, 2014 at 2:07 PM

No deal.

No kidding.

MJBrutus on March 14, 2014 at 2:08 PM

What’s with the big flags? Does Kerry fancy himself preezie now?

LilliPutin, the thug, is the man, because he can.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2014 at 2:08 PM

If Russia invades the remainder of the Ukraine on the weekend, Dear Leader is going to be angry.

d1carter on March 14, 2014 at 2:09 PM

d1carter on March 14, 2014 at 2:07 PM

They gave him a button. It had the Russian word for “Eject” on it.

MJBrutus on March 14, 2014 at 2:09 PM

He should throw his “medals” over the Russian embassy gate.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on March 14, 2014 at 2:11 PM

The Russkies did mention how much they liked Lurch on the Addams Family.

viking01 on March 14, 2014 at 2:11 PM

Lavrov also told reporters that Russia had no plans to invade southeastern Ukraine.

What an interesting way to make a statement.

He didn’t say that Russia had no plans to invade the Ukraine.

He said… southeastern Ukraine. Because that is exactly what they are planning.

sharrukin on March 14, 2014 at 2:12 PM

They told me if I voted for Mitt Romney Russia would become a threat to us, but if I reelected Obama, the ‘reset’ would continue apace.

Resist We Much on March 14, 2014 at 2:12 PM

What’s with the big flags? Does Kerry fancy himself preezie now?

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Well… someone has to do it. Hillary is busy planning for 2016 so that leaves who?

sharrukin on March 14, 2014 at 2:13 PM

With team SMART Power!!!1111!!!elibinty now dealing with foreign policy, the Ukraine and the rest of eastern Europe are pretty screwed.

Not just the USA but the whole free world will regret our first affirmative action president.

jukin3 on March 14, 2014 at 2:14 PM

Good analysis, AP.

Putin’s also using all of this as an opportunity to clean house at home.

The Obama Administration is simply clueless and powerless.

de rigueur on March 14, 2014 at 2:14 PM

sharrukin on March 14, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Valerie, of course.

MJBrutus on March 14, 2014 at 2:14 PM

I think all the booze at state dept. must be kept in defective lead crystal.

oldroy on March 14, 2014 at 2:16 PM

Look at the Russian dignitary then look at Kerry.

I’m SOOOO embarrassed what is representing my once strong and proud country now.

Kerry is a fool. Owebama is so far over his head it’s not funny and we’ve caused some countries to give up hope in “the west” because we’re now a clown car.

Bring on judgement day……

Sponge on March 14, 2014 at 2:16 PM

de rigueur on March 14, 2014 at 2:14 PM

Apologies. Didn’t realize AP had used the same link in his post.

de rigueur on March 14, 2014 at 2:17 PM

What a joke the Obama administration is.

and yet there are still people who insist Obama is intelligent and capable. It boggles the mind.

Monkeytoe on March 14, 2014 at 2:17 PM

From de rigueur’s link

What Moscow liberals are discovering is how quickly the ground has shifted beneath their feet since Putin came back to power in 2012, how futile and pathetic their resistance, and how easily wartime mobilization can steamroll them into nonexistence, in a way it couldn’t when Russia went to war with Georgia in 2008. This time, even their tiny Internet ghetto isn’t safe anymore. And its not clear that, once all this over and Crimea is safely part of Russia, that the regime will roll back these measures. In fact, it’s highly likely that it won’t. Maybe the Soviet rhetoric will dissipate, but the Internet ghetto will still stand pillaged and smoldering. And, most terrifying of all, why resist at all? Moscow liberals have looked on with envy at what their Kievan brothers accomplished on the Maidan, but their protest had a different end: All of this is happening in Moscow precisely because they went out to the streets to protest Putin two years ago. Dare they protest again, and lose even more? Or have they lost it all already?

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2014 at 2:18 PM

White House says it is ‘regrettable’ that Russia has not chosen to de-escalate tensions in Crimea, Ukraine – @Reuters

canopfor on March 14, 2014 at 2:20 PM

One can only hope that Johnny brought his KY jelly with him.

GarandFan on March 14, 2014 at 2:22 PM

The main difference between Putin and Obama is that Putin doesn’t hate his own country.

VorDaj on March 14, 2014 at 2:22 PM

“If Russia invades the remainder of the Ukraine on the weekend, Dear Leader is going to be angry.”

Assuming, of course, Princess Backnine can be located on whichever golf course she’s destroying this weekend.

At which point, her golf skirt definitely WILL be in a bunch, and mr. “invade ukraine without telling us” putin can just forget about being invited to a Democrat party happy hour, EVER!!!

GrassMudHorsey on March 14, 2014 at 2:25 PM

Under Obama, Russia will get a large part of Ukraine and Mexico will get a large part of the U.S.A.

VorDaj on March 14, 2014 at 2:26 PM

So, yeah. To put it mildly, between this and the fact that 69 percent of Americans now see Russia as a threat to the U.S., there is indeed no “common vision.”

What the Hell were Romney and Palin talking about?

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2014 at 2:26 PM

“The main difference between Putin and Obama is that Putin doesn’t hate his own country.”

And the main difference between these two and Kerry is that Kerry now apparently stuffs his face with several pounds of mashed potatoes before appearing in public.

And here I thought the equine diet ran more to oats and hay….

GrassMudHorsey on March 14, 2014 at 2:27 PM

MeanWhile,……

NATOSource ‏@NATOSource 16m

Russia Sends 4 Strategic Bombers on 24-Hour Arctic Patrol http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140314/188431204/Russia-Sends-4-Strategic-Bombers-on-24-Hour-Arctic-Patrol.html … pic.twitter.com/IOdprpCvOX

https://twitter.com/NATOSource/status/444498530636279808/photo/1

canopfor on March 14, 2014 at 2:27 PM

Mark it that LilliPutin will take the part East of the Dnieper river.

Kiev is just barely on the other side. The river will be the border.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2014 at 2:28 PM

Oops!!

NATOSource ‏@NATOSource 4h

Senior US officials: Ukraine asked 4 US military aid (arms, ammo, intell), but White House only agreed to send MRE’s http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/obama-administration-turns-down-request-from-ukraine-for-weapons-and-ammunition
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http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/obama-administration-turns-down-request-from-ukraine-for-weapons-and-ammunition

canopfor on March 14, 2014 at 2:29 PM

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2014 at 2:18 PM

Hey there. Been slow to catch up on some of the goings-on and goings-out around here, but I heard you were dead.

de rigueur on March 14, 2014 at 2:31 PM

As West Dithers With Weak Sanctions, Putin Moves On Ukraine

The matter is made worse as Ukraine talks about restarting its nuclear program as a last-resort defense. This opens up the specter of regional nuclear conflict, given Ukraine’s 15 nuclear power plants that could relatively quickly be converted to military ends.

Kaffa on March 14, 2014 at 2:36 PM

Hey there. Been slow to catch up on some of the goings-on and goings-out around here, but I heard you were dead.

de rigueur on March 14, 2014 at 2:31 PM

Well, I was never dead, yet, but Easter came early :)

To be sure, for the sensitive, not comparing to anyone, just saying about the rising…from the HA-dead.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2014 at 2:39 PM

Russia says intercepted US drone over Crimea: arms group

“Judging by its identification number, UAV MQ-5B belonged to the 66th American Reconnaissance Brigade, based in Bavaria,” Rostec said on its website, which also carried a picture of what it said was the captured drone.

sharrukin on March 14, 2014 at 2:40 PM

That went well…

workingclass artist on March 14, 2014 at 2:40 PM

Results for #Crimea

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Crimea

canopfor on March 14, 2014 at 2:42 PM

John M Knox @johnmknox

BREAKING: Russia Downs U.S. Predator Drone over Crimea! #Ukraine

Retweeted by Edie Steen

This just came across. No validation of this report yet.

Kaffa on March 14, 2014 at 2:42 PM

Under Obama, Russia will get a large part of Ukraine and Mexico will get a large part of the U.S.A.

VorDaj on March 14, 2014 at 2:26 PM

Not Texas…

But carry on…

workingclass artist on March 14, 2014 at 2:43 PM

…we need more Botox!

KOOLAID2 on March 14, 2014 at 2:43 PM

Kerry warned him

Just like obaka warned Putin that he’d have more flexibility after the election…

ladyingray on March 14, 2014 at 2:43 PM

About that “vision thing” of Putin’s (also linked by AP, above):

Here’s what’s scary about this: this is all being done, according to various reports, without any consultation with anyone outside Putin’s shrinking inner circle of old KGB spooks… This is all about intangibles, the things that reason can’t hook, the things impervious to logic and reasoning and even the cynical algebra of geopolitical interests. This is about pride and values and the Trans-Eurasian Development Belt.

And, yes, all of this is familiar and increasingly terrifying… The method has been tried many times, and it is true: Putin’s approval ratings have grown to their highest level in three years…

What Moscow liberals are discovering is how quickly the ground has shifted beneath their feet since Putin came back to power in 2012, how futile and pathetic their resistance, and how easily wartime mobilization can steamroll them into nonexistence…

…not to mention Ukrainians, Kerry, and Obama’s foreign policy.

de rigueur on March 14, 2014 at 2:47 PM

sharrukin on March 14, 2014 at 2:40 PM

FTA:The photograph appeared to show an apparently armed drone in flight, rather than debris.

An armed drone? Who does Obama want to assassinate in Crimea?

Kaffa on March 14, 2014 at 2:50 PM

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/3-billion-ukraine-aid-would-go-russia-n52056

As Western leaders prepare a bailout package for embattled Ukraine, they face a startling irony: Thanks to the almost bizarre structure of a bond deal between Ukraine and Russia, billions of those dollars are almost certain to go directly into the coffers of the Putin government.

The implications of that clause are that the minute the West or the International Monetary Fund extends a large loan to Ukraine, that country will almost certainly have a debt-to-GDP that exceeds 60 percent, immediately putting the Russian loan into default. That gives Russia the right to demand immediate repayment. And because the bonds are governed by British courts — which, presumably, neither Ukraine nor Russia can manipulate — it would be extremely difficult for Ukraine to avoid making the payment, using its new bailout money.

sharrukin on March 14, 2014 at 2:51 PM

“Leading From Behind”..”uuh,…uhhh.. ‘Smart Power’”….”Putin better not cross my ‘Red Line’”…..”I just heard about that on the news, and nobody is madder about it than me”…..”“Just show me who’s ass to kick….uuh..uhh..’Smart Power!’”

Mimzey on March 14, 2014 at 2:51 PM

When do we get to DEFCON 3?

Old Fritz on March 14, 2014 at 2:51 PM

“The cold war is over, governor.”

levi on March 14, 2014 at 2:52 PM

John M Knox @johnmknox

BREAKING: Russia Downs U.S. Predator Drone over Crimea! #Ukraine

Retweeted by Edie Steen

This just came across. No validation of this report yet.

Kaffa on March 14, 2014 at 2:42 PM

Kaffa:)
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Ukrainian Drone Captures Video Of Russian Troops Fortifying In The Crimea
Tyler Durden’s picture
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 03/09/2014 16:37 -0400
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-09/ukrainian-drone-captures-video-russian-troops-fortifying-crimea

canopfor on March 14, 2014 at 2:52 PM

When do we get to DEFCON 3?

Old Fritz on March 14, 2014 at 2:51 PM

Old Fritz:Gett’n darn close!

canopfor on March 14, 2014 at 2:53 PM

Kerry, just another fool as far as Putin is concerned.

The question asked is: What is the U.S. going to do whatever Russia does…the answer is “Nothing”, so why should Russia care what Kerry or Obama thinks, it means nothing.

right2bright on March 14, 2014 at 2:54 PM

FTA:The photograph appeared to show an apparently armed drone in flight, rather than debris.

The photo in my link is a predator drone near Mexico.

An armed drone? Who does Obama want to assassinate in Crimea?

Kaffa on March 14, 2014 at 2:50 PM

I suspect that it wasn’t armed. I wonder if it was ‘on loan’ to the Ukrainian Air Force?

sharrukin on March 14, 2014 at 2:54 PM

Russia invades? What difference does it make?

right2bright on March 14, 2014 at 2:54 PM

As Russian troops mass along Ukraine’s eastern border, know this: In these tense negotiations with Vladimir Putin, John Kerry will not blink. He can’t — he just had a massive Botox injection.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2014 at 2:56 PM

Ukrainian Updates ‏@Ukroblogger 1h

Disarmed&disowned by the West, what’s left of #Ukraine’s army stands ready to defend our country fr #Putin’s #Russia pic.twitter.com/7sTCjA4Zhu
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https://twitter.com/Ukroblogger/status/444526958504706048/photo/1/large

Ukrainian Updates ‏@Ukroblogger 1h

You’re in the army now! #Euromaidan self-defense join #Ukraine’s National Guard(drills not far fr #Yanukovych estate) pic.twitter.com/1qLvwNsbbs

https://twitter.com/Ukroblogger/status/444524640044453890/photo/1/large

canopfor on March 14, 2014 at 2:57 PM

Retweeted by Ukrainian Updates
Yuri Bender ‏@YuriBender 39m

“@JohnKerry: discussion on #Ukraine w/ Russia’s #FMLavrov for 6 hrs. Many ideas put forward. pic.twitter.com/NXztMJ35mb” Which ideas please JK?

https://twitter.com/JohnKerry/status/444536913358118912/photo/1/large

canopfor on March 14, 2014 at 2:58 PM

Really now, what is to stop Putin from rolling the tanks into eastern Ukraine and on up to the Dneiper River? He has the only effective armed force in the theatre and he has the willingness to use it. (see: US Marines in Tangiers in “The Wind & The Lion”).

Old Fritz on March 14, 2014 at 3:00 PM

I suspect that it wasn’t armed. I wonder if it was ‘on loan’ to the Ukrainian Air Force?

sharrukin on March 14, 2014 at 2:54 PM

Good point. It would seem to be pretty provocative for Obama to send an armed drone. I hope Obama doesn’t think that he is dealing with camel jockeys like in Libya. One miscalculation is all it takes.

Kaffa on March 14, 2014 at 3:01 PM

Disarmed&disowned by the West, what’s left of #Ukraine’s army stands ready to defend our country fr #Putin’s #Russia pic.twitter.com/7sTCjA4Zhu

canopfor on March 14, 2014 at 2:57 PM

The Ukrainian military is a shambles.

Ukrainian military:

20 SU-27 of which 15 can fly.
80 MiG-29 of which 30 can fly (of a total of 45 MiG-29s were seized by Russia in the Crimea only 4 could fly).
24 SU-24 of which 12 can fly.
36 SU-25 of which 14 can fly.

The yearly amount of flying hours in the Ukraine is, on average, 17 hours, and in the best units 40 hours. In Russia the average is 110-130 hours.

30 S-300 batteries of which only 3 are in good condition
10 Buk 9К37 batteries whose condition is unknown
41’000 soliders of which 6’000 are fully trained and 500 well-trained
686 tanks, many bad shape, of which 86 can be considered as modern
100+ heavy multi-launch rocket systems with well-trained crews

The situation is aggravated by the fact that at the rear of the Ukrainian army is virtually nonexistent. The Government of Ukraine has concluded that no fuel, no banal outfit warehouses anymore, and urged the army to fund local oligarchy. While the problem with the fuel was solved by requisition 60,000 tons of fuel refineries informal banker “family” Sergei Kurchenko , but this resource is clearly not infinite. A little earlier, the Ministry of Defense announced the fundraiser on their own initiative. Even earlier, Ukrainian Navy began collecting donations for 10 megaphones and barbed wire.

sharrukin on March 14, 2014 at 3:04 PM

Good point. It would seem to be pretty provocative for Obama to send an armed drone. I hope Obama doesn’t think that he is dealing with camel jockeys like in Libya. One miscalculation is all it takes.

Kaffa on March 14, 2014 at 3:01 PM

They may have seconded the drones to the Ukrainians and have them operated by ‘contractors’ so they can avoid any direct involvement.

sharrukin on March 14, 2014 at 3:05 PM

Retweeted by Ukrainian Updates
Hans de Vreij ‏@hdevreij 15m

#Crimea: all-altitude target acquisition radar (96L6E, for the S-300 and S-400 SAM’s). Sevastopol, 14 March pic.twitter.com/jwRdePMrJF

https://twitter.com/hdevreij/status/444546307420454912/photo/1

canopfor on March 14, 2014 at 3:07 PM

Vote to join Russia could leave Crimea without water, electricity

Crimea’s freshwater flows in from the Kakhov Reservoir in Kherson via the 250-mile North Crimean Aqueduct. The peninsula’s vast orchards and vineyards rely on mainland water supply for their livelihood, as do the people in Crimea’s cities of Simferopol, Sevastopol, Kerch, Sudak and Feodosia.

Just as important to Crimea is the power it gets from the Kakhov and Zaporizhiya hydroelectric power stations in Kherson, which provide the peninsula with 75-80 percent of its electricity needs. Finally, Crimea gets 35 percent of its natural gas delivered through pipelines that extend from the mainland via the Mykolayiv and Kherson regions.

Next on Putin’s annexation list.

agmartin on March 14, 2014 at 3:10 PM

They may have seconded the drones to the Ukrainians and have them operated by ‘contractors’ so they can avoid any direct involvement.

sharrukin on March 14, 2014 at 3:05 PM

LOL. So we send drones, that are not are drones, to observe Russian troops that are not their troops.

Kaffa on March 14, 2014 at 3:10 PM

Next on Putin’s annexation list.

agmartin on March 14, 2014 at 3:10 PM

Exactly. Also, he might want to check out where the nuclear power plants are located. Except Chernobyl of course.

Kaffa on March 14, 2014 at 3:13 PM

Kaffa on March 14, 2014 at 3:10 PM

are = our

Kaffa on March 14, 2014 at 3:14 PM

LOL. So we send drones, that are not are drones, to observe Russian troops that are not their troops.

these aren’t the drones you are looking for …lets try that

runner on March 14, 2014 at 3:15 PM

LOL. So we send drones, that are not are drones, to observe Russian troops that are not their troops.

Kaffa on March 14, 2014 at 3:10 PM

LOL.

Yeah, pretty much.

sharrukin on March 14, 2014 at 3:15 PM

My worry isn’t that we do or do not do something…it is someone like Obama get’s confused, frustrated, and figures he has to do “something”, anything to win back the favor of his supporters. Nothing is worse than someone perceived as being weak, and making some decision to show that he is strong.

I worry that Obama won’t want to appear as a wimp, as Putin’s whipping boy, and do some dumb move based on his tender ego…that move, like the infamous “Bay of Pigs” that Kennedy tried, would be enough now to set the world on fire.

Yeah, Kennedy got away with the Cuban blockade, but that was then, it wouldn’t work now, and certainly not with Obama.

Kennedy got the blockade, but also got the wall in Germany built because he was weak and a fool.

right2bright on March 14, 2014 at 3:21 PM

“We have no common vision with the West on Crimea.”

Translation: “**** you Lurch, and your limp-wrist handler, Barry.”

The Russians, regardless of the merits of their behavior, are no fools.
What, exactly will Dear Leader do?
File a brief? Call them racists? Blame FOX News? Have a teaching moment?
Nothing. He won’t do d**k.

Thanks for this one, 52% of last year’s voters. Thanks for nothing.

orangemtl on March 14, 2014 at 3:22 PM

sharrukin on March 14, 2014 at 3:04 PM

I didn’t realize that Ukraine had any S-300′s. The Israelis would pay well for one of those systems and the docs, and so would the US.

slickwillie2001 on March 14, 2014 at 3:22 PM

I didn’t realize that Ukraine had any S-300′s. The Israelis would pay well for one of those systems and the docs, and so would the US.

slickwillie2001 on March 14, 2014 at 3:22 PM

Get them while they are still available because I suspect that shortly they will either have been used, destroyed, or captured.

sharrukin on March 14, 2014 at 3:25 PM

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canopfor on March 14, 2014 at 3:25 PM

My worry isn’t that we do or do not do something…it is someone like Obama get’s confused, frustrated, and figures he has to do “something”, anything to win back the favor of his supporters. Nothing is worse than someone perceived as being weak, and making some decision to show that he is strong.

right2bright on March 14, 2014 at 3:21 PM

Agreed. I real possibility I afraid.

Kaffa on March 14, 2014 at 3:28 PM

Great, in short our American liberal leadership (of then and now) f…ed up Ukraine big time, and Kerry is now trying to do the same to Israel…one could only hope that Bibi learns from the Ukraine lesson and plans accordingly….

jimver on March 14, 2014 at 3:35 PM

had no plans to invade southeastern Ukraine

We’ll Do It Live!

agmartin on March 14, 2014 at 3:52 PM

Europe, wake up. Sadly, this country’s leadership is no longer willing to protect you. And, Frankly, you should have been doing a better job at protecting your own interests…………… but, you just demonized American military power.

SC.Charlie on March 14, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Europe, wake up. Sadly, this country’s leadership is no longer willing to protect you. And, Frankly, you should have been doing a better job at protecting your own interests…………… but, you just demonized American military power.

SC.Charlie on March 14, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Europe should own to their own failures and be prepared to defend themselves, if need be…enough is enough…besides, don’t deplore their situation, Europeans of of today are mainly what I call euroscum, mostly leftists, anti-semite to boot…oh, and Muesli lovers and America bashers…now, why exactly, as an American would you like to protect them…and I am European born and raised, btw…

jimver on March 14, 2014 at 4:40 PM

HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

Loser!

The only way Sergei Lavrov could have punked Kerry more plainly, is if he’d told Kerry to “suck it”.

This administration is now officially impotent, and has been exposed as such. The media can’t hide this one, Friday Afternoon or no, Mr. Bojangles is done and so are his idiot lackeys.

Russia will take what it wants, no one in the world will stop Mad Vlad Putin and his Cossack Dogs, and the Dollar is about to be replaced as the world standard currency by the Yuan. Apparently, liberals have never read anything about WWII prior to the part where Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.

Nice goin’ lefties…stellar.

a5minmajor on March 14, 2014 at 4:48 PM

SC.Charlie on March 14, 2014 at 3:54 PM

Europe should own to their own failures and be prepared to defend themselves, if need be…enough is enough…besides, don’t deplore their situation, Europeans of of today are mainly what I call euroscum, mostly leftists, anti-semite to boot…oh, and Muesli lovers and America bashers…now, why exactly, as an American would you like to protect them…and I am European born and raised, btw…

jimver on March 14, 2014 at 4:40 PM

Here’s why, exactly: Leftists, especially European ones, like to wait until the entire free world is on the verge of collapse, before they lift a finger to stop the idiot “annexing” the free world.

Read a little history about WWII. Eventually, *WE* will have to get involved, save the day, and clean up the mess. By the time Europe DOES try to protect themselves, they’ll be waaaaaaay behind the power curve, and will be little to no use in defending themselves, let alone helping us defeat Russia. See Also; ‘Neville Chamberlain’, ‘Liebensraum’, ‘Austria’, ‘Czechoslovakia’, ‘Poland’, ‘Blitzkrieg’, ‘Dunkirk’, ‘Defense of Stalingrad’ ‘Berlin Wall’…etc.

I have no clue why liberals are physically incapable of remembering anything past the last 10 minutes…but there we are. Like WWII, and the events that preceded it, never happened.

a5minmajor on March 14, 2014 at 4:59 PM

Another “uh-oh” sign: just read a report indicating Russia may be pulling its currency reserves offshore (I took this to mean out of US-affiliated institutions) in anticipation of Western sanctions kicking in Monday.

Looks to me like a nation preparing for, at best, a prolonged test of wills and, at worst, major powers at war. Too bad Preezy lacks will. Or a backbone. Or a clue.

ugottabekiddingme on March 14, 2014 at 5:25 PM

Really Ketchup Boy Kerry..

interesting to see the people who supported the lawless coup in the streets of Kiev, now all of the sudden being the strongest stringers for every fine point in the Ukrainian constitution.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on March 14, 2014 at 8:15 PM

My worry isn’t that we do or do not do something…it is someone like Obama get’s confused, frustrated, and figures he has to do “something”, anything to win back the favor of his supporters. Nothing is worse than someone perceived as being weak, and making some decision to show that he is strong.

I worry that Obama won’t want to appear as a wimp, as Putin’s whipping boy, and do some dumb move based on his tender ego…that move, like the infamous “Bay of Pigs” that Kennedy tried, would be enough now to set the world on fire.

Yeah, Kennedy got away with the Cuban blockade, but that was then, it wouldn’t work now, and certainly not with Obama.

Kennedy got the blockade, but also got the wall in Germany built because he was weak and a fool.

right2bright on March 14, 2014 at 3:21 PM

This is my fear as well, Obama’s ego may well be the death of us all, so to speak.

His problem is a combination of that ego, his misapprehension of how the world actually works, and to paraphrase Rumsfeld, he just doesn’t know what he doesn’t know.

NavyspyII on March 15, 2014 at 9:20 AM