Kerry retreats on recognition of Israel as a Jewish state

posted at 12:41 pm on March 14, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

John Kerry reversed months if not decades of American policy on Israel in testimony before Congress yesterday, arguing that insisting on Palestinian recognition of Israel as a Jewish state is “a mistake.” Just three months ago, Kerry promised Israelis that the US would stick to that condition, as Joel Pollak notes at Breitbart — and yet here he was yesterday at a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing that he’s tired of it coming up “again and again as the decider”:

“Jewish state” was resolved in 1947 in Resolution 181, where there are more than forty–thirty–mentions of “Jewish state.” In addition, Chairman Arafat in 1988, and again in 2004, confirmed that he agreed it would be a Jewish state. And there are any other number of mentions. But those are sort of the most important acknowledgments thereof. I think it’s a mistake for some people to be, you know, raising it again and again as the critical decider of their attitude towards the possibility of a state and peace, and we’ve obviously made that clear. That’s a conversation that will continue.

Joel notes that Barack Obama made a similar promise a year ago to make recognition of a Jewish state central to any peace plan:

We also discussed the way forward to a two-state solution between Israelis and Palestinians. And I very much welcomed Bibi’s words before I spoke. I’ll be meeting with President Abbas tomorrow, and I will have more to say on this topic in the speech that I deliver to the Israeli people tomorrow. But for now, let me just reiterate that a central element of a lasting peace must be a strong and secure Jewish state, where Israel’s security concerns are met, alongside a sovereign and independent Palestinian state.

Don’t think for a moment that Israelis didn’t notice the shift either, although the government of Benjamin Netanyahu seems to be biting its collective tongue for the moment (via The Right Scoop):

A new statement by US Secretary of State John Kerry, to the effect that Israel is misguided in insisting that the Palestinians officially recognize it as a Jewish state, indicates that Washington is wary of dealing with Palestinian intransigence and instead chooses to focus on Israel, an Israeli official said Friday.

While there was no official Israeli response to Kerry’s comments, Israel Radio quoted an unidentified political source as saying that it was “easier for the Americans to pressure Israel to give up on the demand for recognition of a Jewish state than to deal with the Palestinians.” …

In recent months, Netanyahu has been insisting that Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas recognize Israel as “a Jewish state” — something Palestinians are refusing to do, believing it would irrevocably torpedo chances for the return of refugees living in exile. Israel rejects any mass “return” of refugees and their descendants to Israel, since this could drastically alter the Jewish state’s demographic balance, and says Palestinian refugees should become citizens of a Palestinian state.

One could argue that this is just a tactical shift by Kerry, and certainly that was his explanation yesterday. If all the world sees Israel as a Jewish state and the UN recognizes it as such, what difference at this point does it make if the Palestinians only recognize Israel’s secular sovereignty? That ignores, however, the Israeli concerns about rights of return claims by Palestinians, who will argue that because Israel is not a “Jewish state,” then it should allow the return of the dispossessed from the 1948 and 1967 wars, along with their families, back to their original land — along with full civil rights within Israel. That would quickly put Jews in Israel in the minority within their own Jewish state, regardless of what the rest of the world “recognizes,” and eventually force them to abandon it.

The shift sends yet another message of American weakness and desperation, too, as well as a further sense that this administration lives in a fantasy bubble rather than reality. Invoking Arafat, who in the end rejected the two-state solution offered him and started a street war instead, as an authority that proves Palestinian Authority recognition of the Jewish state as a fait accompli is especially fanciful, given the fact that Mahmoud Abbas and the entire Arab League voted to oppose any recognition of Israel as a Jewish state earlier this week:

The Arab League on Sunday endorsed Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas’s rejection of Israel’s demand for recognition as a Jewish state, as U.S.-backed peace talks approach a deadline next month. …

Abbas complained on Saturday that Palestinians were being asked for something that had not been demanded of Arab countries that have previously signed peace treaties with Israel.

“We recognized Israel in mutual recognition in the (1993) Oslo agreement – why do they now ask us to recognize the Jewishness of the state?” he asked.

“Why didn’t they present this demand to Jordan or Egypt when they signed a peace agreement with them?” Abbas added.

Jordan and Egypt didn’t demand the right of return in those peace agreements, however. The PA has continued to insist on it despite Israeli refusal to ever accept it, and what’s more, the PA keeps promising that it won’t conclude any peace deal without it. Perhaps Israel might drop the demand if the PA gets around to telling its people the truth, which is that any real two-state solution will mean permanent ending any expectation of returning to land within Israel.

Even apart from that, though, the quick US cave to the Arab League and reversal on our pledge sends signals to Israel — and other allies, too, about our reliability. That’s a much bigger mistake by Kerry and Obama than anything he described in this appearance.

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Retreat? Not Genghis Khan!

Oil Can on March 14, 2014 at 12:45 PM

It’s like they never write anything down ahead of time. It’s an entire foreign policy spoken off the top of their empty little heads. From the “a red line for me …” to Kerry’s “solution” in Syria to this. They put as much thought into statements of foreign policy as I put into placing my sandwich order at Subway. Except that I never screw up my sandwich order at Subway.

SoRight on March 14, 2014 at 12:45 PM

You must recognize Jordanian, Syrian and Egyptian refugees as long lost “Palestinians” who have a tie to the land. But they don’t have recognize you interlopers who have no ties to the region. And you must give away enough land so unable to defend yourselves.

Other than that were OK with you.

Could someone show me the “history” of the Palestinian people?

oldroy on March 14, 2014 at 12:46 PM

If all the world sees Israel as a Jewish state and the UN recognizes it as such, what difference at this point does it make if the Palestinians only recognize Israel’s secular sovereignty?

Heh that phrase seems to crop up a lot when this State dept. is involved.

KS Rex on March 14, 2014 at 12:47 PM

“I still have have the yarmulke. I still to this day have the yarmulke.”

GreenBlade on March 14, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Kerry is as deceitful and worthless now as he was when he was driving that motor boat in Vietnam (for only 4 short months).

rplat on March 14, 2014 at 12:48 PM

“The shift sends yet another message of American weakness and desperation,”

That seems to be pretty much the message with everything spewing forth from Emperor Obeyme and “Lurch the Sock Puppet’ these days.

oldleprechaun on March 14, 2014 at 12:49 PM

This talking horsehead pretended that he won in 2004. The flags were bigger than his head when he spoke today.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Tactical move or desperation?

flop sweat

workingclass artist on March 14, 2014 at 12:49 PM

I think Abbas is right. Israel should demand the the refugees have a right to return to Jordan, and Syria, and Egypt.

oldroy on March 14, 2014 at 12:50 PM

John Kerry reversed months if not decades of American policy on Israel in testimony before Congress yesterday, arguing that insisting on Palestinian recognition of Israel as a Jewish state is “a mistake.”

He and obama then implicitly own that “destroying Israel”, the wild one’s charter, is not a mistake.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2014 at 12:50 PM

The “F” is for “fragger.”

Murphy9 on March 14, 2014 at 12:50 PM

..DumbPhuck!

KOOLAID2 on March 14, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Even apart from that, though, the quick US cave to the Arab League and reversal on our pledge sends signals to Israel — and other allies, too, about our reliability. That’s a much bigger mistake by Kerry and Obama than anything he described in this appearance.

This is about giving the filthy stupid rat-eared Jew-hating traitor a foreign policy legacy. And it wouldn’t be bad for Kerry’s Presidential aspirations to be able to claim that he brought peace to the Israelis and Palestinians.

Jimmy Carter did much the same thing. He got the Egypt and Israel together at Camp David and offered up enough to both of them to find common ground. I don’t think it is going to work this time. Obama is just too damned stupid and Kerry is way too arrogant.

Happy Nomad on March 14, 2014 at 12:51 PM

The “F” is for “fragger.”

Murphy9 on March 14, 2014 at 12:50 PM

I thought is was for “find me a band-aid, I’m going home now.”

oldroy on March 14, 2014 at 12:52 PM

What the Hell has happened to this guy’s face??

ToddPA on March 14, 2014 at 12:53 PM

It was a trial balloon to see if it would pass muster. It didn’t, so Kerry retreated.

They will try again down the road.

sharrukin on March 14, 2014 at 12:54 PM

It was discovered in 2003 by genealogist Felix Gundacker that Kerry’s paternal grandparents were born Jewish as “Fritz Kohn” and “Ida Lowe” in Austria, changed their names to “Frederick and Ida Kerry” from “Kohn” in 1900 and converted from Judaism to Roman Catholicism in 1901. or 1902. Fritz’ elder brother Otto had earlier, in 1887 or 1896, also embraced Catholicism. The “Kerry” name, widely misinterpreted as indicative of Irish heritage, was reputedly selected arbitrarily: “According to family legend, Fritz and another family member opened an atlas at random and dropped a pencil on a map. It fell on County Kerry in Ireland, and thus a name was chosen.” Leaving their hometown Mödling, a suburb of Vienna where they had lived since 1896, Fred and Ida, together with their son Eric, emigrated to the United States in 1905, living at first in Chicago and eventually moving to Brookline, Massachusetts, by 1915.

The village where Fritz Kohn was born in 1873 was at that time known as Bennisch and was a part of Silesia in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, but is today known as Horní Benešov in the Czech Republic.

John Kerry has said that although he knew his paternal grandfather had come from Austria, he did not know until informed by The Boston Globe on the basis of their genealogical research that Fred Kerry had changed his name from “Fritz Kohn” and had been born Jewish, nor that Ida Kerry’s brother Otto and sister Jenni had died in Nazi concentration camps.

Islamists Get Their Nazi Salute On (Photo Essay With A Little Real History Thrown In)

You’d think with his family history that he’d be a little more sensitive, but then again, we are talking about a man, who betrayed his own country.

Resist We Much on March 14, 2014 at 12:55 PM

There goes that red line again.

Kissmygrits on March 14, 2014 at 12:56 PM

Resist We Much on March 14, 2014 at 12:55 PM

It’s balsamic to the soul to see you back. Be well, RWM.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2014 at 12:58 PM

OT – the leftist parodists ‘embrace’ obama’care’ in the HA headlines.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2014 at 12:58 PM

John looks sooo cute and, yet, instills sooo much fear to the muslims of the world with his pretty, little pink tie.

Go get’m, Johnny!

John Kerry. Undermining America since 1971.

Ruckus_Tom on March 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Tactical move or desperation?

In the words of Deion Sanders: Both Coach.

RealMc on March 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Just three months ago, Kerry promised Israelis that the US would stick to that condition … and yet here he was yesterday at a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing that he’s tired of it coming up “again and again as the decider”

He threw his medals over the White House fence before he didn’t throw his medals over the White House fence.

M240H on March 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Jimmy Carter did much the same thing. He got the Egypt and Israel together at Camp David and offered up enough to both of them to find common ground. I don’t think it is going to work this time. Obama is just too damned stupid and Kerry is way too arrogant.

Happy Nomad on March 14, 2014 at 12:51 PM

The concept of ‘common ground’ ended at the Wye Conference during the Clinton Administration when Arafat turned down 97% of what he was asking for in exchange for peace. (Apparently he realized that with peace, he would become accountable and responsible for the putrid and corrupt treatment the PA exercised over their people.) Even Arafat at one point was willing to recognize the existence of Israel as a ‘Jewish State’ – not so for Abbas and the other terrorists.

They refuse to accept the continued existence of the State of Israel – and will continue to push for it’s ultimate demise knowing that this Administration has no compulsion around selling out an American ally in order to appease the PA and right what they see as past wrongs. It’s social justice – foreign policy style.

Athos on March 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM

Shall we ask Daniel Pearl’s family. They reside in Israel.

Lee Jan on March 14, 2014 at 1:03 PM

John Kerry. Undermining America since 1971.

Ruckus_Tom on March 14, 2014 at 12:59 PM

No – actually 1970 on his honeymoon in Paris is when his meetings with the North Vietnamese began – by his own admission.

oldroy on March 14, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Meanwhile the plane disappearance is a big squirrel

What Moscow liberals are discovering is how quickly the ground has shifted beneath their feet since Putin came back to power in 2012, how futile and pathetic their resistance, and how easily wartime mobilization can steamroll them into nonexistence, in a way it couldn’t when Russia went to war with Georgia in 2008. This time, even their tiny Internet ghetto isn’t safe anymore. And its not clear that, once all this over and Crimea is safely part of Russia, that the regime will roll back these measures. In fact, it’s highly likely that it won’t. Maybe the Soviet rhetoric will dissipate, but the Internet ghetto will still stand pillaged and smoldering. And, most terrifying of all, why resist at all? Moscow liberals have looked on with envy at what their Kievan brothers accomplished on the Maidan, but their protest had a different end: All of this is happening in Moscow precisely because they went out to the streets to protest Putin two years ago. Dare they protest again, and lose even more? Or have they lost it all already?

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2014 at 1:05 PM

Rewarding Palestinian intransigence again, just as they rewarded Iranians in Geneva. And, in both cases, they are selling out te Israelis.

They are so desperate to be able to say that they have achieved a “peace agreement” that they will sacrifice Israel.

It is clear that the Palestinaians will not recognize Israel as a “Jewish State” because, for religious reasons the cannot agree to it. It is fundamental to their faith that any land ever under Islam can never be “surrendered”…this is why outfits such as Hamas, Al Quaeda etc etc include in their basic goals the return of Andalucia…aka Spain…to Islamic control.

So, Abbass cannot concede the Jewish nature of Israel….not if he expects to live. If he makes such an agreement (a) he would end up like Sadat and (b) in any event it would not be of any value because it would be ignored by Hamas, Hezbollah etc etc.

So, the only way to guarantee that a peace agreement would ensure Israel’s survival would be that the US (and maybe some other Western states) would guarantee Israel’s territorial integrity.

However, and I hate to be the dash of cold water, given the failure of the US, Europe, UN etc etc to guarantee Ukraine’s territorial integrity despite having promised to do so in The Budapest Memorandum, does anyone think that an Israeli Prime Minister could trust guarantees issued by the likes of President Obama or Secretary Kerry?

Blaise on March 14, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Well, that was a Swift change of direction.

percysunshine on March 14, 2014 at 1:08 PM

Is it possible that the new Progressive Left just likes Muslims more than Jews?

Rusty Nail on March 14, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Well, that was a Swift change of direction.

percysunshine on March 14, 2014 at 1:08 PM

A Boat load of lies?

oldroy on March 14, 2014 at 1:12 PM

Is it possible that the new Progressive Left just likes Muslims more than Jews?

Rusty Nail on March 14, 2014 at 1:12 PM

No. They are afraid of the Muslims.

oldroy on March 14, 2014 at 1:13 PM

Strange day for Jacob.

Axe on March 14, 2014 at 1:15 PM

You’d think with his family history that he’d be a little more sensitive, but then again, we are talking about a man, who betrayed his own country.

Resist We Much on March 14, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Nice read RWM, but there’s a long line of Jewish Turncoats. It’s just that some are more scummy than others.

DDay on March 14, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Did Kerry have a stroke that only affected the lower right side of his jaw??

ctmom on March 14, 2014 at 1:24 PM

More Joooooo hatred from Barky & Co.

Philly on March 14, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Kerry will run for Dem nominee — he thinks his SecState work will be his moral high ground. Delusional in practice as well as in mind.

Bradky on March 14, 2014 at 1:26 PM

I don’t get this Palestine thing, they are a nomadic tribe, let the other “states” take care of them and give them land…Saudi. Syria, all the other countries have much more land, and the Palestinian’s at one time inhabited that land.

I have always thought that the U.S., years ago, should have told this tribe, along with Israel, to get lost, shut up, go somewhere else.

The only reason they are where they are, is to destroy Israel…

Along this point, why the Jews sit here and support the dems who are supporting someone who wants to destroy/kill them is beyond me.

right2bright on March 14, 2014 at 1:28 PM

The more our nation retreats from defending Israel, the worse we will get

ConservativePartyNow on March 14, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Not a Jewish state == Right of return

Which is a transparent ruse to destroy Israel through a massive influx of Arabs. Not a single person in Israel or the Arab world has any illusions about its meaning.

MJBrutus on March 14, 2014 at 1:32 PM

does anyone think that an Israeli Prime Minister could trust guarantees issued by the likes of President Obama or Secretary Kerry?

Blaise on March 14, 2014 at 1:06 PM

He couldn’t and he won’t. I doubt that there’s a simgle person in Israel who trusts the liar in the WH. As for Bibi, he’s the one who trusts O the least, pretty sure he has plan A, B etc if shite hits the fan…probably none of them includes relying on O for anything…

jimver on March 14, 2014 at 1:32 PM

Of course all the Muslim states must be recognized. This one way street is a dead end, fool.

pat on March 14, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Thanks to Botox this goofball can speak with a straight face.

Wade on March 14, 2014 at 1:38 PM

Helen Thomas pretty much summed up this administration’s views:

“Tell them to get the hell out of Palestine.” and “Remember, these people are occupied and it’s their land. It’s not German, it’s not Poland…” When asked where Israeli Jews should go, she replied they could “go home” to Poland or Germany or “America and everywhere else. Why push people out of there who have lived there for centuries?”

Happy Nomad on March 14, 2014 at 1:38 PM

John Kerry reversed months if not decades of American policy on Israel in testimony before Congress yesterday, arguing that insisting on Palestinian recognition of Israel as a Jewish state is “a mistake.”

Ed Morrissey on March 14, 2014 at 12:41 PM

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Go tell it to God, Mr Secretary.

They aren’t “Palestinians”, they’re displaced Syrians.

listens2glenn on March 14, 2014 at 1:40 PM

I think Abbas is right. Israel should demand the the refugees have a right to return to Jordan, and Syria, and Egypt.

oldroy on March 14, 2014 at 12:50 PM

If the US would stand firm with Israel on this point, maybe there could be a way out of this perpetual mess. Enlist the oil rich Arab countries to help with financial aid to sweeten the transition. How hard could this be?

Oh yeah, except for one little detail. The Arab countries want the Jews gone. Completely. Nothing will change until this fact changes, and Israel knows it. So John Eff Kerry, just shove it.

ncinca on March 14, 2014 at 1:47 PM

Caving? This administration excels at it!

GarandFan on March 14, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Honestly, why would anyone think that one of the State’s right to exist should be any part of a Two State Solution? You people are so ignorant and raaaaaaaaacist.

NOMOBO on March 14, 2014 at 1:49 PM

OT – give this a listen and tell me that your blood is not going in the other direction.

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Israel Radio quoted an unidentified political source as saying that it was “easier for the Americans to pressure Israel to give up on the demand for recognition of a Jewish state than to deal with the Palestinians.”

They have a good point: It is much easier to deal with a civilized country than a bunch of ignorant barbarians.

RoadRunner on March 14, 2014 at 1:52 PM

I wonder in his negotiations with Russia if Kerry is starting with bade assumption that Ukraine does not really exist?

Ellis on March 14, 2014 at 1:54 PM

He’s been fired upon.

Your argument is invalid.

Ben Hur on March 14, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Step One: “It was just a slip of the tongue.”

Step Two: “It’s just a clever negotiating tool, and nothing else.”

Step Three: “This is a well established position.”

Step Four: “At this point, what difference does it make?”

orangemtl on March 14, 2014 at 1:58 PM

‘Toons of the Day: S.O.T.U.? S.N.A.F.U.

Resist We Much on March 14, 2014 at 1:52 PM

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Excellent, as always.

listens2glenn on March 14, 2014 at 2:01 PM

At this point, why would any leader of any other country be willing to trust America on anything.

Between the spying and the lying and the betrayals, how do we hope to offer ourselves as the better choice between us and Russia, China, or the Caliphate?

bofh on March 14, 2014 at 2:11 PM

What an equivocator.

rlwo2008 on March 14, 2014 at 2:14 PM

Do the Arabs want their own state, or do they want “the right of return” to Israel? Think they want it all.

RonRon on March 14, 2014 at 2:17 PM

The shift sends yet another message of American weakness and desperation, too, as well as a further sense that this administration lives in a fantasy bubble rather than reality.

Uh … no. It sends a message of American Socialist SUperstate bullying and the fact that the A.S.S. stands 3000% behind the pali scum and is an enemy of Israel, looking for any way to hasten its destruction.

There is no weakness, desperation, or fantasy in this. It is pure malevolence, anti-Westernism, and intense Jew-hate.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 14, 2014 at 2:23 PM

Flood Israel with Palestinians? That’s the ticket. The Dems want to to the same thing here. Flood the US with Democrat voting illegals and grant them citizenship. Great way to win elections.

iamsaved on March 14, 2014 at 2:24 PM

Both Barack Obama and John Kerry are lying pieces of feces who would sell out their own grandmothers for a nickel.

Netanyahu is smart enough to understand Israel can’t depend on these two miscreant clowns, they screw up everything they touch. There will be no deal while the Vacationer-in-Chief and the Boy Gigolo are in charge of American foreign policy, period.

Adjoran on March 14, 2014 at 2:28 PM

What the Hell has happened to this guy’s face??

ToddPA on March 14, 2014 at 12:53 PM

He’s getting older and realizes that he won’t live forever, and won’t be able to enjoy H. John Heinz’s fortune forever.

Ward Cleaver on March 14, 2014 at 2:29 PM

Excellent, as always.

listens2glenn on March 14, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Resist We Much is what happens when The Professor and Ginger lose hope of ever being rescued.

Axe on March 14, 2014 at 2:41 PM

Hey Jews, if you like your Jewish state, you can keep your Jewish state.

jvermeer on March 14, 2014 at 2:46 PM

Is it possible that the new Progressive Left just likes Muslims more than Jews?

Rusty Nail on March 14, 2014 at 1:12 PM

1. They like anyone who hates Western civilization as much as they do, on the principle of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”.

2. They are blinded by their infatuation with Eastern “mysticism”. They equate all such belief-systems with the Maharishi the Beatles adored when this lot was in diapers. The One himself has been on a Magical Mystery Tour since he wandered around Indonesia with his mom as a pre-teen.

3. Aside from reflexive anti-Semitism adopted by the Left in the Sixties because it was just so Euro-cool, the modern anti-civilization progressives see Israel as an outpost of the “evil, materialistic West” in their beloved “mystical, enlightened East”. They’d want to erase it from the map on that count alone; look how assiduously they’ve worked to bring down every MidEast country that tried to modernize or Westernize even slightly since the Sixties. (Hint; Iran. Hint 2; Lebanon.)

4. Finally, we run slam into the Manson Theory. As with Charlie-Boy’s “Helter Skelter” plan to start a race war, they think that after a Muslim “Triumph”, the new overlords will suddenly realize that they are too stupid to run the world, and will absolutely beg our progressive elitists to run it. Leaving said elitists as the Lords of the Earth, forever and ever, Praise Marx, with the Muslims as their adoring acolytes- ready to kill on command to enforce the rulers’ whims.

All of the above shows that The One and JFKook aren’t the only ones detached from reality. In fact, it shows that they are really just very typical modern progressives.

And therein lies the problem.

clear ether

eon

eon on March 14, 2014 at 2:49 PM

And I very much welcomed Bibi’s words before I spoke. I’ll be meeting with President Abbas tomorrow…

Note well where the rspect is rendered.

Midas on March 14, 2014 at 2:57 PM

If the US would stand firm with Israel on this point, maybe there could be a way out of this perpetual mess. Enlist the oil rich Arab countries to help with financial aid to sweeten the transition. How hard could this be?

Oh yeah, except for one little detail. The Arab countries want the Jews gone. Completely. Nothing will change until this fact changes, and Israel knows it. So John Eff Kerry, just shove it.

ncinca on March 14, 2014 at 1:47 PM

*And* they *don’t* want the Palestinians coming to live in *their* country, either.

Midas on March 14, 2014 at 3:02 PM

How unsurprising. Snubbing or alienating our allies while underestimating and conceding to our enemies are the hallmarks of this administration’s foreign policy.

polly2150 on March 14, 2014 at 3:05 PM

A Jewish state? I thought it wasn’t a theocracy…? Or is “Jewish” a race now?

Akzed on March 14, 2014 at 3:09 PM

ohn Kerry reversed months if not decades of American policy on Israel in testimony before Congress yesterday, arguing that insisting on Palestinian recognition of Israel as a Jewish state is “a mistake.”

This was NEVER US policy.

This was not even Israeli policy until recently.

Arguing otherwise flies in the face of 242 which is the basis of Israeli agreements with Jordan and Egypt AND negotiations with the Palestinians.

You are completely incorrect on this Ed.

lexhamfox on March 14, 2014 at 3:10 PM

Resist We Much is what happens when The Professor and Ginger lose hope of ever being rescued.

Axe on March 14, 2014 at 2:41 PM

Treasure!

Schadenfreude on March 14, 2014 at 3:22 PM

*And* they *don’t* want the Palestinians coming to live in *their* country, either.

Midas on March 14, 2014 at 3:02 PM

You noticed?

How come the rest of the world doesn’t see it?

ncinca on March 14, 2014 at 3:26 PM

What the Hell has happened to this guy’s face??

ToddPA on March 14, 2014 at 12:53 PM

He’s getting older and realizes that he won’t live forever, and won’t be able to enjoy H. John Heinz’s fortune forever.

Ward Cleaver on March 14, 2014 at 2:29 PM

His nose appears to be collapsing right about in the middle. I’d say too much plastic surgery has thinned the cartilage to where it can’t support itself. Michael Jackson syndrome.

slickwillie2001 on March 14, 2014 at 3:29 PM

lexhamfox on March 14, 2014 at 3:10 PM

As usual when it comes to Israel you are incorrect.

This is UN Resolution 181 on the partition of Palestine. The words Jewish state are used dozens of times. This is the official resolution adopted by the UN, on the creation of Israel. Voted on by the UN with 2/3 + approval. 72% of nations (including the USA) approving.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

Israel is the Jewish state, always has been, always will be. I live there and there is full freedom of religion for Jews, Christians, Muslims, Atheist etc. Full equal rights for all citizens. Further, there are 20+ Muslims states, there are 18 or so Christian states in the world. There is NOTHING illegitimate about a Jewish state.

saus on March 14, 2014 at 3:37 PM

Could someone show me the “history” of the Palestinian people?

oldroy on March 14, 2014 at 12:46 PM

It is Islams history. Relentless whining and/or violence until “there is no religion but for Allah” as the old saying goes. And the term for Americas present state in the face of Islam is called dhimitude as it has been called for a thousand years.

BL@KBIRD on March 14, 2014 at 3:59 PM

lexhamfox on March 14, 2014 at 3:10 PM

As usual when it comes to Israel you are incorrect.

This is UN Resolution 181 on the partition of Palestine. The words Jewish state are used dozens of times. This is the official resolution adopted by the UN, on the creation of Israel. Voted on by the UN with 2/3 + approval. 72% of nations (including the USA) approving.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

Israel is the Jewish state, always has been, always will be. I live there and there is full freedom of religion for Jews, Christians, Muslims, Atheist etc. Full equal rights for all citizens. Further, there are 20+ Muslims states, there are 18 or so Christian states in the world. There is NOTHING illegitimate about a Jewish state.

saus on March 14, 2014 at 3:37 PM

242 is the basis for negotiations. Israel has agreed to that formula before Bibi. Why is it an issue now and not before with the other negotiations? I’m very familiar with how the Bush snr. admin handled this and it was never an issue then once the the Palestinians recognized Israel as a sovereign state. The Israelis have everything they need except for an excuse to avoid negotiating seriously on a final settlement.

lexhamfox on March 14, 2014 at 4:09 PM

BL@KBIRD on March 14, 2014 at 3:59 PM

I would offer that it is more arab history – from The Muqadimmah, Ibn Khaldun 14th century:

25. Places that succumb to the Arabs are quickly ruined.

The reason for this is that (the Arabs) are a savage nation, fully accustomed to savagery and the things that cause it. Savagery has become their character and nature. They enjoy it, because it means freedom from authority and no subservience to leadership. Such a natural disposition is the negation and antithesis of civilization. All the customary activities of the Arabs lead to travel and movement. This is the antithesis and negation of stationariness, which produces civilization. For instance, the Arabs need stones to set them up as supports for their cooking pots. So, they take them from buildings which they tear down to get the stones, and use them for that purpose. Wood, too, is needed by them for props for their tents and for use as tent poles for their dwell­ings. So, they tear down roofs to get the wood for that purpose. The very nature of their existence is the negation of building, which is the basis of civilization. This is the case with them quite generally.

Furthermore, it is their nature to plunder whatever other people possess. Their sustenance lies wherever the shadow of their lances falls. They recognize no limit in taking the possessions of other people. Whenever their eyes fall upon some property, furnishings, or utensils, they take it. When they acquire superiority and royal authority, they have complete power to plunder (as they please). There no longer exists any political (power) to protect property, and civilization is ruined.

Furthermore, since they use force to make craftsmen and professional workers do their work, they do not see any value in it and do not pay them for it. Now, as we shall mention, labor is the real basis of profit. When labor is not appreciated and is done for nothing, the hope for profit vanishes, and no (productive) work is done. The sedentary population disperses, and civilization decays.

Furthermore, (the Arabs) are not concerned with laws. (They are not concerned) to deter people from misdeeds or to protect some against the others. They care only for the property that they might take away from people through looting and imposts. When they have obtained that, they have no interest in anything further, such as taking care of (people), looking after their interests, or forcing them not to commit misdeeds. They often level fines on property, because they want to get some advantage, some tax, or profit out of it. This is their custom. It does not help to prevent misdeeds or to deter those who undertake to commit (mis­deeds). On the contrary, it increases (misdeeds), because as compared to getting what one wants, the (possible financial) loss (through fines) is insignificant.

Under the rule of (the Arabs), the subjects live as in a state of anarchy, without law.

And we can see why Western leftists find so much common cause with arabs. Birds of a feather …

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 14, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Both Barack Obama and John Kerry are lying pieces of feces who would sell out their own grandmothers for a nickel.

Netanyahu is smart enough to understand Israel can’t depend on these two miscreant clowns, they screw up everything they touch. There will be no deal while the Vacationer-in-Chief and the Boy Gigolo are in charge of American foreign policy, period.

Adjoran on March 14, 2014 at 2:28 PM

Hopefully the (very) recent and tragic example of Ukraine will serve as an alarm bell for Bibi and the Israelis…never trust the promises made by the SCOAMF and his progressive predecessors in the WH…

jimver on March 14, 2014 at 4:20 PM

Kerry and Obama must not know Israel has been a STATE since 1948
F them both. I can’t wait until they are both off the face of our earth.
I only hope they don’t do too much more damage before they go!!!!

Delsa on March 14, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Weakest and most unintelligent president and administration EVER.

I wish I could teleport to 500 years from now and grab a history book, if there is such a thing then, or if humans even exist then.

“There was between the years 1776 and 2015 a country called the United States of America”. We footnote this country and it’s destruction only because it, in the last few years it existed, eliminated racism by virtue of electing it’s last president as the first black president.”

Diluculo on March 14, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Obama and Kerry aren’t even trying to hide their hatred for Israel anymore..Well God is noticing this and won’t look kindly on it…Please Bibi, please stop negotiating…the American people have your back, not our not so dear leader

sadsushi on March 14, 2014 at 8:46 PM

His stance reminds me of the court that wouldn’t let American students wear American flags to school because it might incite violence, while the violent offenders were allowed to wear Mexican colors.

Weak leaders and courts bow to the bully and oppress the lawful.

talkingpoints on March 14, 2014 at 8:57 PM

The window for a two state solution is narrowing.

This is never a US position and only recently an Israeli one.

Ed is wrong on this.

lexhamfox on March 14, 2014 at 9:37 PM

The window for a two state solution is narrowing.

lexhamfox on March 14, 2014 at 9:37 PM

There never will be two-state solution. The Arabs calling themselves Palestinians will eventually overplay their hand and be destroyed by Israel.

zoyclem on March 15, 2014 at 8:08 AM